It is interesting that the Riverfront Playhouse was mentioned in the live feed. I'm glad to hear it will stay - hopefully for a long time.
As for MRF, I'm seeing a giant rock sculpture of a human head somewhere in the concept art that makes this like something other than Ozarkian in nature and more like a generic jungle raft ride. Otherwise, I think it will make a great replacement for LR. I never was a great fan of LR (and yes, I really want to revive the Dugan theme).
but I would love to see more of a WoF-style carousel or conveyor-style load on this ride. They really haven't addressed this as far as I've seen, so I assume there will be a stop and load station.
The change to Rivertown makes me feel a little strange. I guess it's something like going to China Town, but still being in Los Angeles. I hope there is some great music chosen for the whole area - and appropriate, themed shows for the stages in the area.
The previous thread seems to have glitched, so I began a new one. If Shave can figure it out, we can go back to the original thread, but until then, here's the last thing I posted to kick us off:QuoteIt is interesting that the Riverfront Playhouse was mentioned in the live feed. I'm glad to hear it will stay - hopefully for a long time.
As for MRF, I'm seeing a giant rock sculpture of a human head somewhere in the concept art that makes this like something other than Ozarkian in nature and more like a generic jungle raft ride. Otherwise, I think it will make a great replacement for LR. I never was a great fan of LR (and yes, I really want to revive the Dugan theme).
but I would love to see more of a WoF-style carousel or conveyor-style load on this ride. They really haven't addressed this as far as I've seen, so I assume there will be a stop and load station.
The change to Rivertown makes me feel a little strange. I guess it's something like going to China Town, but still being in Los Angeles. I hope there is some great music chosen for the whole area - and appropriate, themed shows for the stages in the area.
The previous thread seems to have glitched, so I began a new one. If Shave can figure it out, we can go back to the original thread, but until then, here's the last thing I posted to kick us off:QuoteIt is interesting that the Riverfront Playhouse was mentioned in the live feed. I'm glad to hear it will stay - hopefully for a long time.
As for MRF, I'm seeing a giant rock sculpture of a human head somewhere in the concept art that makes this like something other than Ozarkian in nature and more like a generic jungle raft ride. Otherwise, I think it will make a great replacement for LR. I never was a great fan of LR (and yes, I really want to revive the Dugan theme).
but I would love to see more of a WoF-style carousel or conveyor-style load on this ride. They really haven't addressed this as far as I've seen, so I assume there will be a stop and load station.
The change to Rivertown makes me feel a little strange. I guess it's something like going to China Town, but still being in Los Angeles. I hope there is some great music chosen for the whole area - and appropriate, themed shows for the stages in the area.
So you saying the ribhouse will have fried rice, peking duck and lo mein..Hot Dog! (Whoops). A
How’s it any different than using Landing or Exposition? (Hint: It’s not)
How’s it any different than using Landing or Exposition? (Hint: It’s not)
Huge difference. The latter two are often found in cities, while a town has its own local government (as does a city). Cities and towns may be adjacent to one another, but are not a part of each other.
It may be a silly thing to point out, and I may be nitpicking, I'll concede that much.
The previous thread seems to have glitched, so I began a new one. If Shave can figure it out, we can go back to the original thread, but until then, here's the last thing I posted to kick us off:QuoteIt is interesting that the Riverfront Playhouse was mentioned in the live feed. I'm glad to hear it will stay - hopefully for a long time.
As for MRF, I'm seeing a giant rock sculpture of a human head somewhere in the concept art that makes this like something other than Ozarkian in nature and more like a generic jungle raft ride. Otherwise, I think it will make a great replacement for LR. I never was a great fan of LR (and yes, I really want to revive the Dugan theme).
but I would love to see more of a WoF-style carousel or conveyor-style load on this ride. They really haven't addressed this as far as I've seen, so I assume there will be a stop and load station.
The change to Rivertown makes me feel a little strange. I guess it's something like going to China Town, but still being in Los Angeles. I hope there is some great music chosen for the whole area - and appropriate, themed shows for the stages in the area.
So you saying the ribhouse will have fried rice, peking duck and lo mein..Hot Dog! (Whoops). A
How’s it any different than using Landing or Exposition? (Hint: It’s not)
Huge difference. The latter two are often found in cities, while a town has its own local government (as does a city). Cities and towns may be adjacent to one another, but are not a part of each other.
It may be a silly thing to point out, and I may be nitpicking, I'll concede that much.
Oh you’re definitely nitpicking, there’s no doubt about that.
If it’ll help you sleep at night, just think of Rivertown being unincorporated and under the jurisdiction of the Silver Dollar City township or borough
So last week I took a vacation down to Orlando for a few days and got to ride Infinity Falls. I will say that the build up to the drop can be pretty intimidating. The drop really wasn't much, but the whole elevator thing was pretty crazy. As I said previously, I think once people get over themselves and see it in person, most will have no problem with it. It is certainly going to be different than Lost River, but LR wasn't that mild of a ride either.
So last week I took a vacation down to Orlando for a few days and got to ride Infinity Falls. I will say that the build up to the drop can be pretty intimidating. The drop really wasn't much, but the whole elevator thing was pretty crazy. As I said previously, I think once people get over themselves and see it in person, most will have no problem with it. It is certainly going to be different than Lost River, but LR wasn't that mild of a ride either.
The area needed a quality flat.
The area needed a quality flat.
This isn’t Six Flags.
The area needed a quality flat.
This isn’t Six Flags.
Still needs more flats, covered at that
My teens binged this thing like a new netflix show
https://youtu.be/CeN8BL2r2RE
Tivolis air race and condor were popular rides too.
This isn’t Six Flags.
The area needed a quality flat.
This isn’t Six Flags.
Still needs more flats, covered at that
My teens binged this thing like a new netflix show
https://youtu.be/CeN8BL2r2RE
Tivolis air race and condor were popular rides too.
Still...This isn’t Six Flags.
The area needed a quality flat.
This isn’t Six Flags.
Still needs more flats, covered at that
My teens binged this thing like a new netflix show
https://youtu.be/CeN8BL2r2RE
Tivolis air race and condor were popular rides too.
Still...This isn’t Six Flags.
Agree, do not ugly it up like a carnival.
The wife and I discussed season passes for next year, we aren't there yet. This addition did nothing.
The wife and I discussed season passes for next year, we aren't there yet. This addition did nothing.
That’s too bad. We’ll miss you around here. Take care. Have a good life.
The wife and I discussed season passes for next year, we aren't there yet. This addition did nothing.
That’s too bad. We’ll miss you around here. Take care. Have a good life.
What makes you think I'll Go anywhere...
UCFO
The wife and I discussed season passes for next year, we aren't there yet. This addition did nothing.
That’s too bad. We’ll miss you around here. Take care. Have a good life.
What makes you think I'll Go anywhere...
UCFO
To quote Taylor Swift “You need to calm down. You’re being too loud”
Again, we’ll miss you.
Just get your band geeks to tighen up that figure 8 for the first half time performance everyone goes to the bathroom during except the proud band geek parents.
Just get your band geeks to tighen up that figure 8 for the first half time performance everyone goes to the bathroom during except the proud band geek parents.
Just get your band geeks to tighen up that figure 8 for the first half time performance everyone goes to the bathroom during except the proud band geek parents.And what is wrong with these “band geeks?”
Just get your band geeks to tighen up that figure 8 for the first half time performance everyone goes to the bathroom during except the proud band geek parents.
Words from the truly ignorant... I see why Six Flags is right up your ally! Poor costumer service, crappy food and no character or pride in their park would seem to fit your personality! I'd prefer you go there anyway!
^This. It could be worse and be like Worlds of Fun where they get little or nothing at all. The most being the rebuild and retrack of Timberwolf over the past few years as something they can market and hype. Their last coaster was Prowler added back in 2009. Without getting too far off topic I will say every time I ride Prowler it makes me miss OzCat, such a fantastic terrain woodie. WOF is a neat park with a lot of potential but Cedar Fair doesn't want to put any real money into it and I kinda wished HFEC would purchase it and give it some love. (and not do it like they did with CC)
Just to illustrate the problems they have to take into account, my family represents a minority but viable population that has no interest whatever in coasters at all and every interest in maintaining the classics. That's not just my wife and I but also our two sons. We go to the city for the shows, the music, the train and FM as well as the ambiance and the crafts.The thing is that it is really hard to attract both sides, especially with the classics and everything that came with them are deteriorating. You can only patch something up so many times until it becomes a mess. This is why I love the new additions, they add something new and they’re able to completely fix and replace the current infrastructure. They’ve been doing a damn good job at it, too. I’m all for keeping the classics, I love FiTH and FM, but you can only patch them up so many times before stepping back and saying “we need to start from new.”
The PTB have a real problem trying to attract the chittlins of the world and still hang on to the palallins.
Just to illustrate the problems they have to take into account, my family represents a minority but viable population that has no interest whatever in coasters at all and every interest in maintaining the classics. That's not just my wife and I but also our two sons. We go to the city for the shows, the music, the train and FM as well as the ambiance and the crafts.
The PTB have a real problem trying to attract the chittlins of the world and still hang on to the palallins.
One of the many rants that chittlins has thrown out here lately is capacity. You do realize that’s the entire point of this project, correct? They widened the midway, they increased the size and improved the flow of the Ribhouse, they increased the amount of seating, the increased the throughput of their rapids ride. These all fixed to your complaint but it still wasn’t good enough for you
If that pisses off the traditionalist, too bad.
If that pisses off the traditionalist, too bad.
Too bad? Well, pissing off a portion of your public is rarely a good idea.
But you illustrate nicely a (an admittedly fuzzy) dividing line. Rides, rides, RIDES: you go for the rides. With the exception of some truly traditional "rides," we go to avoid them. We never go to WoF, 6F, or any other amusement park. SDC has what we want (if in diminishing proportions).
You may feel yourself free to dismiss us as irrelevant, but I hope the PTB aren't so myopic. Our money is just as good as yours, and, given your own posts, we appear to spending more of ours at SDC than you are. That statement isn't a judgment of your tastes or choices, just an accountant's perspective.
In that last post if mine I advocated for a flying theater featuring the Ozarks.
My point was--and remains--that not everyone goes for the rides. There are people who don't want the rides, and we are a population who also spend $$$ at SDC. Make enough changes, and you will alienate us. The city *may* bring in enough new blood to compensate, but it might not, either. Besides, we don't need another 6F or WoF in the area.I’m pretty sure that the higher ups recognize this majority of people, which is why they haven’t removed or renovate any of the current craft areas. And even though they are brining new rides to make SDC stand out and bring in new guests, they still keep that “city” feel. Especially down by TT. I’m not really sure how adding more rides will turn it into a “Six Flags” Or “Worlds of Fun”, though.
My point was--and remains--that not everyone goes for the rides. There are people who don't want the rides, and we are a population who also spend $$$ at SDC. Make enough changes, and you will alienate us. The city *may* bring in enough new blood to compensate, but it might not, either. Besides, we don't need another 6F or WoF in the area.I’m pretty sure that the higher ups recognize this majority of people, which is why they haven’t removed or renovate any of the current craft areas. And even though they are brining new rides to make SDC stand out and bring in new guests, they still keep that “city” feel. Especially down by TT. I’m not really sure how adding more rides will turn it into a “Six Flags” Or “Worlds of Fun”, though.
My point was--and remains--that not everyone goes for the rides. There are people who don't want the rides, and we are a population who also spend $$$ at SDC. Make enough changes, and you will alienate us. The city *may* bring in enough new blood to compensate, but it might not, either. Besides, we don't need another 6F or WoF in the area.I’m pretty sure that the higher ups recognize this majority of people, which is why they haven’t removed or renovate any of the current craft areas. And even though they are brining new rides to make SDC stand out and bring in new guests, they still keep that “city” feel. Especially down by TT. I’m not really sure how adding more rides will turn it into a “Six Flags” Or “Worlds of Fun”, though.
There’s a difference between adding experiences and just adding rides. The chittlins of the world don’t care if a ride fits or not, he just wants more. SDC isn’t like that. The experiences have to be part of the overall story. We’ve only been trying to explain this ad nauseam since he joined the boards. It’s useless to lose much sleep over it. Unless it’s talking about how many foreign parks he’s visited or NWA (two topics most don’t seem to care about on here) good luck having a real conversation, let alone a discussion with him.
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Now for the actual topic.
Anyone going this weekend to get updated photos?
I thought about it, but I might wait a week
Unless it’s talking about how many foreign parks he’s visited or NWA (two topics most don’t seem to care about on here) good luck having a real conversation, let alone a discussion with him.
We are going today. Thought I was going to skip the entire year but We decided to make a weekend trip. Ill post anything here but I have had trouble posting from my Mac in the past. Seems the files are to big.
My point was--and remains--that not everyone goes for the rides. There are people who don't want the rides, and we are a population who also spend $$$ at SDC. Make enough changes, and you will alienate us. The city *may* bring in enough new blood to compensate, but it might not, either. Besides, we don't need another 6F or WoF in the area.I’m pretty sure that the higher ups recognize this majority of people, which is why they haven’t removed or renovate any of the current craft areas. And even though they are brining new rides to make SDC stand out and bring in new guests, they still keep that “city” feel. Especially down by TT. I’m not really sure how adding more rides will turn it into a “Six Flags” Or “Worlds of Fun”, though.
There’s a difference between adding experiences and just adding rides. The chittlins of the world don’t care if a ride fits or not, he just wants more. SDC isn’t like that. The experiences have to be part of the overall story. We’ve only been trying to explain this ad nauseam since he joined the boards. It’s useless to lose much sleep over it. Unless it’s talking about how many foreign parks he’s visited or NWA (two topics most don’t seem to care about on here) good luck having a real conversation, let alone a discussion with him.
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Now for the actual topic.
Anyone going this weekend to get updated photos?
I thought about it, but I might wait a week
Talk about someone who thinks way too much of themselves, lord have mercy
Not a lot of messages posted daily anymore.
My point was--and remains--that not everyone goes for the rides. There are people who don't want the rides, and we are a population who also spend $$$ at SDC. Make enough changes, and you will alienate us. The city *may* bring in enough new blood to compensate, but it might not, either. Besides, we don't need another 6F or WoF in the area.
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Got one photo early in the day yesterday then we left and I intended to come back. It was after dark when I got back to that area. Sorry, Didn’t fulfill my mission but had a great day at the park. It was a beautiful end to the summer season
I’ll be down tomorrow and I’ll try to get some decent ones.
My point was--and remains--that not everyone goes for the rides. There are people who don't want the rides, and we are a population who also spend $$$ at SDC. Make enough changes, and you will alienate us. The city *may* bring in enough new blood to compensate, but it might not, either. Besides, we don't need another 6F or WoF in the area.
But as long as they are adding some things you like. And still keeping others that you do, then it seems they are still covering you pretty well.
But there comes a time where preservation isn’t possible anymore. They’ve tried their hardest to preserve FiTH, but yet you can only do so much. Same thing with FM. The cost eventually outweighs the voices, where they have to stop preserving and start new. They may preserve it and try to update it at the same time, but then we have people shouting “Not my FiTH/FM!” “Not my festivals!” They definitely haven’t forgotten your demographic at all, as willow said, this year was all about your voice with festivals. But like I said, there comes a point where the cost has to outweigh the voices, as much as it upsets people.But as long as they are adding some things you like. And still keeping others that you do, then it seems they are still covering you pretty well.
Sir Willow, you're one of the last people I wish to dispute, but the core of the problem is right here. The plans to get rid of things that we enjoy--like FM--EVEN IF they replace them with substitutes means that they would not be covering us well.
As I said above, this is my problem (and that of those who are like-minded): I get that. But I believe that this is the place to raise these issues, is it not? Among a chorus of voices calling for new this and new that, I feel a responsibility to raise my own voice in a call for preservation.
But there comes a time where preservation isn’t possible anymore. They’ve tried their hardest to preserve FiTH, but yet you can only do so much. Same thing with FM. The cost eventually outweighs the voices, where they have to stop preserving and start new. They may preserve it and try to update it at the same time, but then we have people shouting “Not my FiTH/FM!” “Not my festivals!” They definitely haven’t forgotten your demographic at all, as willow said, this year was all about your voice with festivals. But like I said, there comes a point where the cost has to outweigh the voices, as much as it upsets people.But as long as they are adding some things you like. And still keeping others that you do, then it seems they are still covering you pretty well.
Sir Willow, you're one of the last people I wish to dispute, but the core of the problem is right here. The plans to get rid of things that we enjoy--like FM--EVEN IF they replace them with substitutes means that they would not be covering us well.
As I said above, this is my problem (and that of those who are like-minded): I get that. But I believe that this is the place to raise these issues, is it not? Among a chorus of voices calling for new this and new that, I feel a responsibility to raise my own voice in a call for preservation.
But there comes a time where preservation isn’t possible anymore. They’ve tried their hardest to preserve FiTH, but yet you can only do so much. Same thing with FM. The cost eventually outweighs the voices, where they have to stop preserving and start new. They may preserve it and try to update it at the same time, but then we have people shouting “Not my FiTH/FM!” “Not my festivals!” They definitely haven’t forgotten your demographic at all, as willow said, this year was all about your voice with festivals. But like I said, there comes a point where the cost has to outweigh the voices, as much as it upsets people.But as long as they are adding some things you like. And still keeping others that you do, then it seems they are still covering you pretty well.
Sir Willow, you're one of the last people I wish to dispute, but the core of the problem is right here. The plans to get rid of things that we enjoy--like FM--EVEN IF they replace them with substitutes means that they would not be covering us well.
As I said above, this is my problem (and that of those who are like-minded): I get that. But I believe that this is the place to raise these issues, is it not? Among a chorus of voices calling for new this and new that, I feel a responsibility to raise my own voice in a call for preservation.
How is it Disney can preserve their classics then ? Here is how. You do not neglect them for years you do preventive maintenance from the beginning. Hopefully they will realize this on newer attractions. Do not let the deterioration get out of control. PM in my opinion is one thing Herschend is terrible at.
How is it Disney can preserve their classics then ? Here is how. You do not neglect them for years you do preventive maintenance from the beginning. Hopefully they will realize this on newer attractions. Do not let the deterioration get out of control. PM in my opinion is one thing Herschend is terrible at.
Actually if you followed any Disney board you’d see even Disney has trouble properly maintaining their classics and especially their dark rides. Figment is a sore spot for most and the current state of effects in several of the Magic Kingdom dark rides - and don’t forget about Disco Yeti in Everest
How is it Disney can preserve their classics then ? Here is how. You do not neglect them for years you do preventive maintenance from the beginning. Hopefully they will realize this on newer attractions. Do not let the deterioration get out of control. PM in my opinion is one thing Herschend is terrible at.
Actually if you followed any Disney board you’d see even Disney has trouble properly maintaining their classics and especially their dark rides. Figment is a sore spot for most and the current state of effects in several of the Magic Kingdom dark rides - and don’t forget about Disco Yeti in Everest
World of Motion and Horizons at Epcot; Country Bears, People Mover, Mission to Mars, Flying Saucers at Disneyland; I could go on long lists of rides and attractions that Disney has replaced- and several of those were because they couldn't/ wouldn't maintain them.
But the point is also valid with SDC and other parks- for some reason it seems certain attraction types don't get the TLC and attention that they need- wood coasters and dark rides stand out. Little problems are ignored, and gradually so many little problems add up that it starts to become big problems.
Disney is obviously better than most. But they also are the most well attended and the most expensive parks to visit. When you have more people paying a lot more, then you have more money to be able to spend on upkeep. And they are known for their Fantasyland dark rides- the "classics" But if you've been to a Disney park in the last few years, then it's also likely you've seen their penny pinching and signs of not spending as much to take care of even those as they used to. And Disney far outspends everyone else on taking care of their stuff. And on "atmosphere" characters as well, something that many parks quit doing or cut way back on years ago.
Getting back on topic, I'm hoping to make it out to SDC next week myself to look at the changes. What I've seen it's looking like it's coming along well. I will say SDC does a great job of working on their things and keeping them on a timeline. That's one area they've got Disney beat by a long shot.
How is it Disney can preserve their classics then ? Here is how. You do not neglect them for years you do preventive maintenance from the beginning. Hopefully they will realize this on newer attractions. Do not let the deterioration get out of control. PM in my opinion is one thing Herschend is terrible at.
Actually if you followed any Disney board you’d see even Disney has trouble properly maintaining their classics and especially their dark rides. Figment is a sore spot for most and the current state of effects in several of the Magic Kingdom dark rides - and don’t forget about Disco Yeti in Everest
World of Motion and Horizons at Epcot; Country Bears, People Mover, Mission to Mars, Flying Saucers at Disneyland; I could go on long lists of rides and attractions that Disney has replaced- and several of those were because they couldn't/ wouldn't maintain them.
But the point is also valid with SDC and other parks- for some reason it seems certain attraction types don't get the TLC and attention that they need- wood coasters and dark rides stand out. Little problems are ignored, and gradually so many little problems add up that it starts to become big problems.
Disney is obviously better than most. But they also are the most well attended and the most expensive parks to visit. When you have more people paying a lot more, then you have more money to be able to spend on upkeep. And they are known for their Fantasyland dark rides- the "classics" But if you've been to a Disney park in the last few years, then it's also likely you've seen their penny pinching and signs of not spending as much to take care of even those as they used to. And Disney far outspends everyone else on taking care of their stuff. And on "atmosphere" characters as well, something that many parks quit doing or cut way back on years ago.
Getting back on topic, I'm hoping to make it out to SDC next week myself to look at the changes. What I've seen it's looking like it's coming along well. I will say SDC does a great job of working on their things and keeping them on a timeline. That's one area they've got Disney beat by a long shot.
20,000 Leagues for the Snow White coaster let down(cause it is way too short)
Thanks for sharing the pics. Any idea if the project budget includes plans to spruce up the perimeter of Lake Silver prior to the opening of MRF? It definitely looks neglected (to be expected given the significance of the adjacent construction). It would be great to see them add a nice sized fountain in the center once everything is completed and the lake is filled once again.
Thanks for sharing the pics. Any idea if the project budget includes plans to spruce up the perimeter of Lake Silver prior to the opening of MRF? It definitely looks neglected (to be expected given the significance of the adjacent construction). It would be great to see them add a nice sized fountain in the center once everything is completed and the lake is filled once again.
Thanks for sharing the pics. Any idea if the project budget includes plans to spruce up the perimeter of Lake Silver prior to the opening of MRF? It definitely looks neglected (to be expected given the significance of the adjacent construction). It would be great to see them add a nice sized fountain in the center once everything is completed and the lake is filled once again.
As far overbudget / behind schedule as it is, I’d be pleasantly surprised if they do too much.
Thanks for sharing the pics. Any idea if the project budget includes plans to spruce up the perimeter of Lake Silver prior to the opening of MRF? It definitely looks neglected (to be expected given the significance of the adjacent construction). It would be great to see them add a nice sized fountain in the center once everything is completed and the lake is filled once again.
As far overbudget / behind schedule as it is, I’d be pleasantly surprised if they do too much.
Thanks for the update. I was gonna say at a glance it did seem like not too much was done to the MRF site overall since my visit and tour a month ago. Interesting that they are indeed behind schedule. Wonder what happened there. I am assuming it was due to all the rain we had this year?
Regardless the budget and scheduling issues that may be a factor, the reality is it's going to look very ghetto if they leave Lake Silver as is next to a brand new $25 million addition. It's a shame that something as simple as a very small body of water cannot be treated as an aesthetic asset to the park. Especially considering how little the park would need to invest to treat it as such.
Guys, c'mon, it's a freaking construction site, lol. I'm sure it will look nice when it's actually finished. This is why the put a giant ridiculous wood fence around all their construction sites.
Thanks for the photos everyone.
I'm sure they'll have no problem getting it done for next year. It's only mid September and it's half finished (from what I can tell anyway).
Like where is Rudolph going to go since temporary Ribhouse is in Carousel Barn
See being behind schedule has other ramifications besides just next year stuff
Like where is Rudolph going to go since temporary Ribhouse is in Carousel Barn
See being behind schedule has other ramifications besides just next year stuff
Why couldn't they put Santa where he normal is in the queue line of River Blast, then put Rudolph and Clarice in the formal White River Mercantile?
Like where is Rudolph going to go since temporary Ribhouse is in Carousel Barn
See being behind schedule has other ramifications besides just next year stuff
Why couldn't they put Santa where he normal is in the queue line of River Blast, then put Rudolph and Clarice in the formal White River Mercantile?
About Lake Silver...
On the lake, add a water fountain show complete with choreographing to Dueling Ban........err, Ozarkian Music. 5 minute show on top and bottom of the hour. This was quite common in Europe from Palace Gardens to theme parks. Older folk crowd pleasers they are. Puy du Fou had a smaller one on a lake/pond about the size of the former Lake Silver.
Say Rudolph suffered from CWD and had to be put down or finally got kilt by one of the Branson Blue Hairs' RVs on 76.
About Lake Silver...
On the lake, add a water fountain show complete with choreographing to Dueling Ban........err, Ozarkian Music. 5 minute show on top and bottom of the hour. This was quite common in Europe from Palace Gardens to theme parks. Older folk crowd pleasers they are. Puy du Fou had a smaller one on a lake/pond about the size of the former Lake Silver.
About Lake Silver...
On the lake, add a water fountain show complete with choreographing to Dueling Ban........err, Ozarkian Music. 5 minute show on top and bottom of the hour. This was quite common in Europe from Palace Gardens to theme parks. Older folk crowd pleasers they are. Puy du Fou had a smaller one on a lake/pond about the size of the former Lake Silver.
While that would be nice, I don’t see how they would make any return on investing in that. I doubt anyone would go to SDC just to see the fountains, especially when the Landing has fountains for free. So I don’t think the park would see any benefit in investing in a fountain show. Also I feel like a fountain show would be difficult to see having MRF or FL in the background most likely and would create more crowd issues with people stopping along the path to see the show.
About Lake Silver...
On the lake, add a water fountain show complete with choreographing to Dueling Ban........err, Ozarkian Music. 5 minute show on top and bottom of the hour. This was quite common in Europe from Palace Gardens to theme parks. Older folk crowd pleasers they are. Puy du Fou had a smaller one on a lake/pond about the size of the former Lake Silver.
While that would be nice, I don’t see how they would make any return on investing in that. I doubt anyone would go to SDC just to see the fountains, especially when the Landing has fountains for free. So I don’t think the park would see any benefit in investing in a fountain show. Also I feel like a fountain show would be difficult to see having MRF or FL in the background most likely and would create more crowd issues with people stopping along the path to see the show.
You know how many times i go the landing or down 76 when I go to SDC, 1 out of 20 if that. It is not relevant.
Anywho, I did some YouTube digging and this was found for the Puy du Fou pond with a fountain show. Obviously, Lake Sliver would be more compact. It was just a thought, kinda like the area needing a flat.
https://youtu.be/HO8ZrExRPXs
About Lake Silver...
On the lake, add a water fountain show complete with choreographing to Dueling Ban........err, Ozarkian Music. 5 minute show on top and bottom of the hour. This was quite common in Europe from Palace Gardens to theme parks. Older folk crowd pleasers they are. Puy du Fou had a smaller one on a lake/pond about the size of the former Lake Silver.
While that would be nice, I don’t see how they would make any return on investing in that. I doubt anyone would go to SDC just to see the fountains, especially when the Landing has fountains for free. So I don’t think the park would see any benefit in investing in a fountain show. Also I feel like a fountain show would be difficult to see having MRF or FL in the background most likely and would create more crowd issues with people stopping along the path to see the show.
You know how many times i go the landing or down 76 when I go to SDC, 1 out of 20 if that. It is not relevant.
Anywho, I did some YouTube digging and this was found for the Puy du Fou pond with a fountain show. Obviously, Lake Sliver would be more compact. It was just a thought, kinda like the area needing a flat.
https://youtu.be/HO8ZrExRPXs
About Lake Silver...
On the lake, add a water fountain show complete with choreographing to Dueling Ban........err, Ozarkian Music. 5 minute show on top and bottom of the hour. This was quite common in Europe from Palace Gardens to theme parks. Older folk crowd pleasers they are. Puy du Fou had a smaller one on a lake/pond about the size of the former Lake Silver.
While that would be nice, I don’t see how they would make any return on investing in that. I doubt anyone would go to SDC just to see the fountains, especially when the Landing has fountains for free. So I don’t think the park would see any benefit in investing in a fountain show. Also I feel like a fountain show would be difficult to see having MRF or FL in the background most likely and would create more crowd issues with people stopping along the path to see the show.
You know how many times i go the landing or down 76 when I go to SDC, 1 out of 20 if that. It is not relevant.
About Lake Silver...
On the lake, add a water fountain show complete with choreographing to Dueling Ban........err, Ozarkian Music. 5 minute show on top and bottom of the hour. This was quite common in Europe from Palace Gardens to theme parks. Older folk crowd pleasers they are. Puy du Fou had a smaller one on a lake/pond about the size of the former Lake Silver.
While that would be nice, I don’t see how they would make any return on investing in that. I doubt anyone would go to SDC just to see the fountains, especially when the Landing has fountains for free. So I don’t think the park would see any benefit in investing in a fountain show. Also I feel like a fountain show would be difficult to see having MRF or FL in the background most likely and would create more crowd issues with people stopping along the path to see the show.
You know how many times i go the landing or down 76 when I go to SDC, 1 out of 20 if that. It is not relevant.
Not my point. I was saying that if you wanted to see a fountain show, you could go to the landing. I doubt anyone would decide to go to SDC or not based on a fountain show when they can go to one for free. Therefore, while a fountain show maybe wouldn’t cost much, it would likely cost more than it would make SDC.
We don't need pomp and circumstance in LS. A decent sized fountain that circulates water and is possibly illuminated at night would be the only inexpensive touch needed to dress up what is nothing, but a small pond now. If they wanted to continue the block retaining wall in front of FL around the entire perimeter, that would be awesome as well, but not holding my breath.
We don't need pomp and circumstance in LS. A decent sized fountain that circulates water and is possibly illuminated at night would be the only inexpensive touch needed to dress up what is nothing, but a small pond now. If they wanted to continue the block retaining wall in front of FL around the entire perimeter, that would be awesome as well, but not holding my breath.
That may or may not happen,
But i was hoping for a simple block wall all the way around the pond. that would give a nice clean edge to look at, easier to maintain and keep clean than a dirt bank. something would match FL and tie in the new attraction.
Fountain in middle to keep water fresh looking would be a good touch too.
Visited the park this past week and thought I'd share just a few minor observations from our train ride. The MRF loading station is framed and a crane was putting roof trusses in place over the Smokehouse dining area. Saw some workers hanging pumpkin-headed owls along the new Pumpkin Nights walkway.
Visited the park this past week and thought I'd share just a few minor observations from our train ride. The MRF loading station is framed and a crane was putting roof trusses in place over the Smokehouse dining area. Saw some workers hanging pumpkin-headed owls along the new Pumpkin Nights walkway.
Awesome. Did you happen to get any photos?
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Sorry folks I have another marching competition this weekend but I’ll be down on October 5-6 to get photos from the new festival and of MRF/RTSH construction
Thanks for the photo updates, Swoosh. Looking through these, I just happened to wonder for the first time since the official announcement -- with the load station being so much closer to the walkway through the new Rivertown than LR's was, where is the line going to form to handle large crowds? Won't it back up and crowd thru-traffic in the walkway?
The queue line goes on the ride side of the station and then back into a queue house which is housed in the facade building that the final drop goes through before coming back to the station.
Huge difference. The latter two are often found in cities, while a town has its own local government (as does a city). Cities and towns may be adjacent to one another, but are not a part of each other.Nope! For instance, in the city of St. Louis there is Dutch Town, the mostly German area. Also Dog Town, known as the Irish area. (There's an interesting story behind the Dog Town name that has nothing to do with ethnicity)
Got to see it all up close at the ACE coaster Christmas walk back today. It really looks incredible with the authentic rock work everywhere. The new ribhouse will be nice and cozy and it interacts a lot with the new ride through. They are still pouring concrete at the base of the tower and may not even start on the steelwork until after the season ends.
They also dropped the news that the old white river mercantile building will become a cinnamon bread bakery. I guess that building will be safe for the future.
Got to see it all up close at the ACE coaster Christmas walk back today. It really looks incredible with the authentic rock work everywhere. The new ribhouse will be nice and cozy and it interacts a lot with the new ride through. They are still pouring concrete at the base of the tower and may not even start on the steelwork until after the season ends.
They also dropped the news that the old white river mercantile building will become a cinnamon bread bakery. I guess that building will be safe for the future.
What!!!! This is the biggest news of all!!!! Cinnamon bread is moving?????
The Mill can be a tough place to get in and out of. As long as it tastes the same....guess my first stop in SDC will take a few steps longer.
But that also means no cinnamon bread before the official park opening -- will have to wait for the chains to drop.
Got to see it all up close at the ACE coaster Christmas walk back today. It really looks incredible with the authentic rock work everywhere. The new ribhouse will be nice and cozy and it interacts a lot with the new ride through. They are still pouring concrete at the base of the tower and may not even start on the steelwork until after the season ends.
They also dropped the news that the old white river mercantile building will become a cinnamon bread bakery. I guess that building will be safe for the future.
What!!!! This is the biggest news of all!!!! Cinnamon bread is moving?????
The Mill can be a tough place to get in and out of. As long as it tastes the same....guess my first stop in SDC will take a few steps longer.
But that also means no cinnamon bread before the official park opening -- will have to wait for the chains to drop.
Got to see it all up close at the ACE coaster Christmas walk back today. It really looks incredible with the authentic rock work everywhere. The new ribhouse will be nice and cozy and it interacts a lot with the new ride through. They are still pouring concrete at the base of the tower and may not even start on the steelwork until after the season ends.
They also dropped the news that the old white river mercantile building will become a cinnamon bread bakery. I guess that building will be safe for the future.
What!!!! This is the biggest news of all!!!! Cinnamon bread is moving?????
The Mill can be a tough place to get in and out of. As long as it tastes the same....guess my first stop in SDC will take a few steps longer.
But that also means no cinnamon bread before the official park opening -- will have to wait for the chains to drop.
I'm pretty sure if the bread sells up front, they will have them at both locations.
Got to see it all up close at the ACE coaster Christmas walk back today. It really looks incredible with the authentic rock work everywhere. The new ribhouse will be nice and cozy and it interacts a lot with the new ride through. They are still pouring concrete at the base of the tower and may not even start on the steelwork until after the season ends.
They also dropped the news that the old white river mercantile building will become a cinnamon bread bakery. I guess that building will be safe for the future.
What!!!! This is the biggest news of all!!!! Cinnamon bread is moving?????
The Mill can be a tough place to get in and out of. As long as it tastes the same....guess my first stop in SDC will take a few steps longer.
But that also means no cinnamon bread before the official park opening -- will have to wait for the chains to drop.
I'm pretty sure if the bread sells up front, they will have them at both locations.
Unless it has changed in the last 10 minutes, all baked items currently at the Mill will now be at this new location
From the outside looking in, it seems that the Mill has actually gotten TOO popular over the past couple years. There were rumors that they were looking at expanding it somehow, even taking over the candle shop to do so. The mill was never built to handle the number of people coming through to get cinnamon bread. At times there have been lines of 30+ minutes or more.
We'll see where things land in spring, but I was told that the mill would still have a few baked things, and they would still have some bread making going on there. I think the milling should be more featured though - so many people fail to realize that it is a real mill!
Did anyone notice the most recent copy of the SDC times where it refers to "Craft Days and Pumpkins" for 2020 rather than "Craft Days and Pumpkin Nights"? I thought that was odd. Perhaps it was a typo.
Did anyone notice the most recent copy of the SDC times where it refers to "Craft Days and Pumpkins" for 2020 rather than "Craft Days and Pumpkin Nights"? I thought that was odd. Perhaps it was a typo.
Did anyone notice the most recent copy of the SDC times where it refers to "Craft Days and Pumpkins" for 2020 rather than "Craft Days and Pumpkin Nights"? I thought that was odd. Perhaps it was a typo.
I looked at website, it is listed as "Craft Days and Pumpkin Nights"
Rain and possible snow coming in over the next few days.
^^ Yeehaw! We've already bought our Season passes anyway but this is icing on the cake
Looks like they are aware of a lot of the backlash that was being posted on various sites/social media regarding the lackluster 2019 season and they are responding appropriately to it.
Looks like they are aware of a lot of the backlash that was being posted on various sites/social media regarding the lackluster 2019 season and they are responding appropriately to it.
Lackluster? A new huge festival and a new tree are far from lackluster and the crowds during the fall and winter echo that point
And a new million dollar "show".
Considering we saw a lot of people complaining on social media and on this very forum last season (most notably the crafts and cowboys during the fall festival being "lackluster"), it looks like they listened and addressed that.
And a new million dollar "show".
Depending on who you ask, some found it "meh". (I didn't get a chance to see it, so I cannot pass judgement on it yet.)
Yeah I already saw some talk about the old Valley Road bridge being torn out and replaced. Not sure about anything else so I will refrain.
What exactly was wrong with the old bridge?
Yeah I already saw some talk about the old Valley Road bridge being torn out and replaced. Not sure about anything else so I will refrain.
Ok since you mentioned it, I’ll confirm. Yes the Tressel bridge has been removed and a new bridge that’s about 10’ wider has replaced it. There’s still more...
Yeah I already saw some talk about the old Valley Road bridge being torn out and replaced. Not sure about anything else so I will refrain.
Ok since you mentioned it, I’ll confirm. Yes the Tressel bridge has been removed and a new bridge that’s about 10’ wider has replaced it. There’s still more...
That will be much wider, and will change the approach from both ways quite a bit.. But that has been needed for a long time.
Hope they kept the "ambience" of the area, sounds, hooves, trees and so on
Wow, 10 feet wider? That's a huge difference
Yeah I already saw some talk about the old Valley Road bridge being torn out and replaced. Not sure about anything else so I will refrain.
Ok since you mentioned it, I’ll confirm. Yes the Tressel bridge has been removed and a new bridge that’s about 10’ wider has replaced it. There’s still more...
That will be much wider, and will change the approach from both ways quite a bit.. But that has been needed for a long time.
Hope they kept the "ambience" of the area, sounds, hooves, trees and so on
Wow, 10 feet wider? That's a huge difference
They could easily make it so generic that you don't even know you're on a bridge. Hopefully, wiser and more nostalgic heads will prevail, and they will keep it with its current theme and effects. It is one of the little things that keep me returning.
I won’t comment on aesthetics of the new bridge, but we’ll say that the new one is concreteThe spiral rock bridge??
That’s not the only new bridge for this year
I won’t comment on aesthetics of the new bridge, but we’ll say that the new one is concreteThe spiral rock bridge??
That’s not the only new bridge for this year
No Corkscrew Pass isn’t getting replaced this year (though it sounds like it’s been earmarked for the following)
I won’t comment on aesthetics of the new bridge, but we’ll say that the new one is concrete
I won’t comment on aesthetics of the new bridge, but we’ll say that the new one is concrete
Good Lord.
Why not just cut down all the trees, level the hills, and pave everything? That would make expansion a lot easier, right?
I won’t comment on aesthetics of the new bridge, but we’ll say that the new one is concrete
Good Lord.
Why not just cut down all the trees, level the hills, and pave everything? That would make expansion a lot easier, right?
I know you were being sarcastic - but unfortunately, I have to report that a lot of mature trees have been removed around the park. Sorry. I personally don’t know the scope of the removal, just that it happened
Any word on if they have fixed the rough section on Thunderation?
Any word on if they have fixed the rough section on Thunderation?
They probably will still deny there is even a rough section that needs to be fixed.
I am gonna take a wild guess since they are redoing the pathway/bridge heading to WF and got rid of a bunch of trees that they removed the waterfall feature and leveled the surrounding area.You mean the one behind Lumbercamp?? I sure hope that they didn't remove the waterfall feature, that was one of my favorite places to just relax and listen to.
I am gonna take a wild guess since they are redoing the pathway/bridge heading to WF and got rid of a bunch of trees that they removed the waterfall feature and leveled the surrounding area.
I am gonna take a wild guess since they are redoing the pathway/bridge heading to WF and got rid of a bunch of trees that they removed the waterfall feature and leveled the surrounding area.
I won’t comment on aesthetics of the new bridge, but we’ll say that the new one is concrete
Good Lord.
Why not just cut down all the trees, level the hills, and pave everything? That would make expansion a lot easier, right?
no kidding.
People need to stop making excuses for SDC regarding this stuff.
Getting harder and harder to understand why they hate the type of character and theme that made the park what it is. New cinnamon bread stand looks like absolute crap too, add it to the list.
Just tear down the park and build a new one already, hard to argue they wouldn't like to do that if they could.
Good deal. Would hate to lose more of the parks landmarks and atmosphere.Well get ready to lose plenty more the way things are going.
You guys are more than welcome to go find a new hobby since going to SDC causes you such grievance.
I guess I’ll hold off passing along more new info on changes to the park in respect for all y’all’s heath
The park has begun testing Mystic River Falls. Teaser video on their Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158094107142603&id=7656242602
I personally don't mind the changes, but then again, I've been a rabid fan of theme parks in general for ages, so I've learned a lot about how the industry works and SDC is just trying to keep up. If they were to just do the same thing every year and not change/update/add... crowd growth would stagnate and they'd eventually start losing guests/money.
My generation has a different idea of what we are looking for entertainment-wise. I think the best suggestion I've seen so far with this more recent discussion is to have set times scheduled for street shows and craft demos. The economy has a big chunk of families having to have both parents working or single people working multiple jobs just to make ends meet. So when we DO plan a vacation, it tends to be done with careful planning and budgeting.
Set times that are easily findable means we can see ahead of time what to do in what order when we visit the park. Basically, just see how Disney does it. With the Magicband system, you're able to reserve a time for rides and then go about your day until your time comes up. Virtual queuing and boarding pass systems are become common because we want to be able to schedule our day. And with character meet & greets, they have set times for specific characters at specific meeting spots. I think the only "streetmosphere" I've seen that as far as I know doesn't have a set schedule is the citizens of Hollywood at Hollywood Studios. But I could be wrong about that; Disney's pretty good at having a schedule for everything.
And speaking of Disney, we can also look to it as an example of a park with increasing crowds in a park with infrastructure/pathing/etc built for the expected hundreds a day when it opened in the 50s, not the 500,000 a day they get on average now.
So they had to widen paths, which sadly meant getting rid of some trees and what-not. But the result has been much better flow of crowds and therefore less stress and tension in the crowd and therefore people having a happier day.
SDC was not built for high attendance. Their annual attendance when they first opened in '60 was 120k (https://mobizmagazine.com/2016/12/12/tis-the-season-silver-dollar-city-masters-the-festival-business/). FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. Now they bring in 20k+ several days a week (depending on the season).
Unfortunately, in order to ease the flow of the crowds, trees are gonna have to be taken down for paths to be widened. But there are still SO many trees. A few here and there won't be a big deal. I'm sure they've taken down plenty of trees that we've never even noticed before. Plus, they plant multiple trees elsewhere for every tree they cut down, so they're being conscientious about our planet (which cannot be said for a vast majority of multi-million/billion dollar corporations).
ANYWAY, TL;DR: I am okay with the changes at SDC because they have to make the park future-proof for the younger generations and the increasing crowds. And I appreciate the updates you give us, Swoosh, and I hope you continue to let us know about them. Thank you.
You guys are more than welcome to go find a new hobby since going to SDC causes you such grievance.
I guess I’ll hold off passing along more new info on changes to the park in respect for all y’all’s heath
The park has begun testing Mystic River Falls. Teaser video on their Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158094107142603&id=7656242602
Just a pet peeve but I really wish they would have stained the concrete to match the real rock work instead of raw gray.
I've seen photos in a Facebook group that shows that they have done exactly that to parts of the trough. I don't know if that group allows their posts shared outside of the group, so I'll hold off on sharing it. But it's the Silver Dollar City Area Hosts group if you want to check it out yourselves. It shows the trough is in the process of being stained a rust like color as well as some photos of the surrounding area.The park has begun testing Mystic River Falls. Teaser video on their Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158094107142603&id=7656242602
Just a pet peeve but I really wish they would have stained the concrete to match the real rock work instead of raw gray.
I do agree there. Maybe the sun and elements will tan or bleach it a bit as time goes on. Otherwise the landscaping rockwork looks fantastic.
Yes, there are probably going to be wider pathways and a few less trees this year, and that kind of sucks, but we have to live with it. After being stuck in a down-right dangerous crowd for 30mins last Christmas with literally no way to escape, I'm ready to accept it. The park has outgrown itself and it is time to upgrade or die.
Anyone else notice how they are just calling it "Pumpkins" now? In today's email and on the website it is just listed as "Pumpkins" instead of "Pumpkin Nights".
I wonder if it is to try and even out the attendance throughout the day some instead of it getting packed after dark.
You guys are more than welcome to go find a new hobby since going to SDC causes you such grievance.
Oh, please. That's just a little childish.
Anyone else notice how they are just calling it "Pumpkins" now? In today's email and on the website it is just listed as "Pumpkins" instead of "Pumpkin Nights".
I wonder if it is to try and even out the attendance throughout the day some instead of it getting packed after dark.
It doesn't look like the lift and raised channel are up yet... maybe I'm just not seeing it though. They did say that it is planed for a late May opening.
https://www.facebook.com/sdcattractions/videos/541963353091887/
I think that it is interesting and a good move that they went back to traditional soda fountains instead of the freestyle machines. They seem to just create longer lines when they are the only ones available. I would be happy to see them make the switch inside of Crossroads Pizza too.
I was looking at video of the new restaurant and it appears to have metal siding. Kind of bums me out. The restaurant is very country contemporary looking. The video showed the light fixtures hanging from the foyer ceiling, and I didn't see 1880s anywhere. However, time marches on and the park has to accommodate over 2 million folk per year. Change must occur. The high quality is still there. I am chomping at the bit to get to see the new Rivertown area. Of course, I spent most of my time on park in that area at the diving bell, 1979-1984. Pretty much everything I remember in that part of the park has been wiped clean and all is new there. The only building original to the 1977 opening of the Deepwoods...later Riverfront...now Rivertown, is the old Wagon Works Barn, now called the White River Warehouse, which is adjacent to Tom and Huck's River Splash. March 17th is just a sneeze away. I'm excited about 2020 for SDC!
Does anyone know if construction is continuing during this hiatus of life?
Does anyone know if construction is continuing during this hiatus of life?
In Oklahoma (and doing the billion dollar driving forward program) we've had two contractors close down because of the virus (one being a general and one as a sub-contractor). ODOT has provided us with directive if the contractors chose to close down because of the virus. So right now in Oklahoma, it's being left up to each construction company if they are closing or not.
I talked with a President of a large contractor and he said in Colorado their jobs have been closed.
On the job sites we are doing our best to maintain the rules provided by the state. The companies have even expanded their safety protocol testing workers for fever multiple times daily, having separation requirements, going to online meetings, and limiting personnel in field offices. I know my employees are using their phone for communication with the contractors and keeping their distance. A lot more digital documents for material tickets, deliveries, etc.
Jay
Does anyone know if construction is continuing during this hiatus of life?
Does anyone know if construction is continuing during this hiatus of life?
Received confirmation that the ride is still being built. They hope to have it ready to go for the park’s opening (whenever that might be).
So, based on your description it sounds like beach town colors
Lol sounds like they had some leftover paint from the Geyser Gulch days and decided to repurpose it.
Lol sounds like they had some leftover paint from the Geyser Gulch days and decided to repurpose it.
No. Geyser Gulch had more muted colors. They were bright but not pure colors like this. (That might not make sense if you don’t have an art background)
Lol sounds like they had some leftover paint from the Geyser Gulch days and decided to repurpose it.
No. Geyser Gulch had more muted colors. They were bright but not pure colors like this. (That might not make sense if you don’t have an art background)
I thought the same thing - that we just got rid of the garish colors in GG. I think a bigger concern with GG was that that pastel color pallet was clearly from the 1980s. The whole area was dated because of that. Hopefully, purer colors will not suffer the same fate and date the area to the 2020s for decades to come.
If you look closely, some of those colors are present in the concept art - especially in the Smokehouse. It doesn't seem overly garish but seems to tend to make it look more like a beach or a safari than a speleological expedition. Of course, it would all look better with some distressing.(https://www.silverdollarcity.com/-/media/Images/HFE/SDC_COM/SDC/2020/SDC2020_MRF_Web_Ride-Spot-Row6.jpg?la=en)
Lol sounds like they had some leftover paint from the Geyser Gulch days and decided to repurpose it.
I can sit here all day and happily critique designer choices, but at the same time I don't actually care and can't wait to finally get back and have some fun.
It's been too long since SDC nuts have been able to complain about paint colors.
Anyone been through Branson lately? I'm wondering if they ever got the elevator done. Mystic River would be open or about ready to open by now, presumably, if things had gone to plan. I know there were some delays both due to general construction issues and from shipping parts over from Europe (seems to happen every time no matter what). Not a lot of people left at the city right now though after all the furloughs and layoffs...
There were rumors that they would start on the supposed FITH replacement project as early as this year, but I somehow doubt they would be taking the old ride down now... Anything is possible though, you really never know with the PTB at SDC these days. I would have assumed that all capital projects that weren't being finished when this began are now on hold.
We'll have to keep our ears to the ground, but I wouldn't freak out yet. Unless the building failed code or something, it would be a bad look to take it out before people get their last rides in.
Let’s be honest, other than a Bible verse on Sundays and a few recipes, their PR during the shut down has been non existent. While other parks are posting POV videos, coloring sheets, bingo... SDC has done nothing. Really embarrassing to be honest
Let’s be honest, other than a Bible verse on Sundays and a few recipes, their PR during the shut down has been non existent. While other parks are posting POV videos, coloring sheets, bingo... SDC has done nothing. Really embarrassing to be honest
I totally agree. I follow lots of history museums and the like, and they post constantly. It's not hard to find material that they could be covering to keep their logo and positivity in front of the public.
The lack of MRF teasers as Swoosh and Shave mentioned is really surprising unless the ride construction got delayed and they are trying to avoid backlash if they went and announced that the ride will take longer to complete as it would be bad for PR right now as they will be wanting to do whatever they can to get people back into the park when they do open to the public.
Let’s be honest, other than a Bible verse on Sundays and a few recipes, their PR during the shut down has been non existent. While other parks are posting POV videos, coloring sheets, bingo... SDC has done nothing. Really embarrassing to be honest
I totally agree. I follow lots of history museums and the like, and they post constantly. It's not hard to find material that they could be covering to keep their logo and positivity in front of the public.
I bet the social media person was one of the first to be fuloughed.
Have you seen this weird animation of MRF yet?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m47QDfWvNM4&feature=share
https://youtu.be/lOx1E_LQnOI
Have you seen this weird animation of MRF yet?
https://youtu.be/lOx1E_LQnOI
I’m sure it got lost in translation considering the company is European
Just got word from the park that Fire in the Hole is still standing and will be operating!
Just got word from the park that Fire in the Hole is still standing and will be operating!
Through official or unofficial contacts? (Just curious)Just got word from the park that Fire in the Hole is still standing and will be operating!
OfficialThrough official or unofficial contacts? (Just curious)Just got word from the park that Fire in the Hole is still standing and will be operating!
Just got word from the park that Fire in the Hole is still standing and will be operating!
Glad to hear! The ride deserves better than to be removed!
The wider horse bridge looks good.
Brad Thomas released another Teaser Photo of MRF over on Twitter, looks like the lift might be done or very close to being. https://twitter.com/BradThomasMO/status/1271543126931406849?s=20
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaVtuWIWoAUYsMJ?format=jpg&name=large)
This video shows the elevator working and testing of rafts. I wasn’t expecting quite the spin that it gets going before it gets to the drop. It spins more than Time Traveler. 🤣 Maybe it won’t spin so much in the end with more weight.
https://youtu.be/C5HBd5VmU20
This video shows the elevator working and testing of rafts. I wasn’t expecting quite the spin that it gets going before it gets to the drop. It spins more than Time Traveler. 🤣 Maybe it won’t spin so much in the end with more weight.
https://youtu.be/C5HBd5VmU20
This video shows the elevator working and testing of rafts. I wasn’t expecting quite the spin that it gets going before it gets to the drop. It spins more than Time Traveler. 🤣 Maybe it won’t spin so much in the end with more weight.
https://youtu.be/C5HBd5VmU20
Those crayon colors! Yikes!
SMOKEHOUSE PHOTO UPDATE
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2020/06/rivertown-smokehouse-sdc.html
Swoosh... How much was the meal, looks tasty..
Lots of Mystic River Falls testing happening today. It was much more consistent and continual like normal operations than what we saw earlier.
Videos of rotating lift, raft in channel, approach to the drop and the drop.
https://www.facebook.com/34311470/posts/10105518456101874/
SMOKEHOUSE PHOTO UPDATE
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2020/06/rivertown-smokehouse-sdc.html
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CLARA BELLE'S CINNAMON
BREAD PHOTO UPDATE
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2020/06/clara-belles-cinnamon-bread-sdc.html
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MYSTIC RIVER FALLS
PHOTO UPDATE
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2020/06/mystic-river-falls-sdc.html
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The sound has returned to the bridge.
The sound has returned to the bridge.
Great news! I love that bridge and the sound! ;D
Let's get some theming on that monstrosity!
Yes, from the art it looks like there is also supposed to be a big pulley with the little building. In person, the thing that stood out the most to me was the actual elevated flume. From the concept art, it looks like there is wooded cladding on it. Hopefully these details didn't get completely cut from the budget.Let's get some theming on that monstrosity!
looking back at the renderings of the ride, it looks like there was a very small building at the top of the lift, but that was it. The supports were painted green for the flume and lift, but nothing else was shown to be done.
Jay
The sound has returned to the bridge.
The sound has returned to the bridge.
Yes, from the art it looks like there is also supposed to be a big pulley with the little building. In person, the thing that stood out the most to me was the actual elevated flume. From the concept art, it looks like there is wooded cladding on it. Hopefully these details didn't get completely cut from the budget.
The sound has returned to the bridge.
They really need to put the sign back up telling how the bridge collapsed, in February 1887 I think, as a posse was chasing Baldknobbers and if you listen closely you can still hear the posse's horses. That way newbies would know why they hear the sound of horses crossing the bridge. That sign would be very easy to do again if they don't have the original.
The reason? It would hurt someones feelings because of the Baldknobber history. I am surprised they have not removed it from Fire in the Hole as of yet. White men in hoods (in a historical sense) just dont do well in todays Zoomer standards.
The reason? It would hurt someones feelings because of the Baldknobber history. I am surprised they have not removed it from Fire in the Hole as of yet. White men in hoods (in a historical sense) just dont do well in todays Zoomer standards.
Yeah, I'm just gonna stop you right there. Being a "zoomer" myself, there is a vast difference between the Baldknobbers and the Klu Klux Klan during that time period.
I highly doubt that they will put that sign up again. The reason? It would hurt someones feelings because of the Baldknobber history. I am surprised they have not removed it from Fire in the Hole as of yet. White men in hoods (in a historical sense) just dont do well in todays Zoomer standards.
The reason? It would hurt someones feelings because of the Baldknobber history. I am surprised they have not removed it from Fire in the Hole as of yet. White men in hoods (in a historical sense) just dont do well in todays Zoomer standards.
Yeah, I'm just gonna stop you right there. Being a "zoomer" myself, there is a vast difference between the Baldknobbers and the Klu Klux Klan during that time period.
We live in an age where mobs are tearing down statues of abolitionists because they're outraged about slaveowners.
I wouldn't expect a careful academic examination of the differences between baldknobbers and klansmen.
C'mon... protestors painted swastikas on John Brown, fer cryin' out loud!
https://www.kansascity.com/latest-news/article205780714.html
Let's not make the mistake of getting too political again.
Yes, it sucks that baldknobbers may get misunderstood these days, but with everything going on it is probably better to be cautious. Perhaps one day they can be better represented without the cloud of everything that is going on right now.
Coronavirus is spiking heavily. Whatever the lockdown bought us is quickly running out. I don't think everything will shut down again, but at this point who knows... At some point it's going to really roll through Tulsa/NWA/Branson just like it did NYC and now Houston. It's great that it's not as deadly as previously thought, but it still causes plenty of problems for a lot of people. The hope for getting back to normal in time for pumpkin fest is kind of waning, but it's still a long ways off.
At some point might be now because the Joplin area has become one of the nation's leading hot spots over the past week or so.
At some point might be now because the Joplin area has become one of the nation's leading hot spots over the past week or so.
The NW Arkansas area is also being hit hard. Another huge source of Tourism Dollars for the Branson area. They even enacted a Temp city ordinance requiring masks in public in Fayetteville here for the foreseeable future. I expect Branson will get a spike pretty soon from all the people traveling from down here who may or may not be exposed.
Don't let the higher education mavens off the hook: what passes for college education today is a national tragedy. I say that as an insider struggling against the system.I can definitely agree on that... Took college History 205/206 and we had to skim over most of history in the 1800's/early 1900's just to get to modern times in two semesters.
Pure ignorance.
SDC has been running commercials on TV here in the Tulsa area, saw 2 of them just this afternoon. First I have seen this year. They had clips on MRF with people riding it. I assume they must be employees dressed as tourists.
QuoteWonder when or if they are gonna bother with a public media event for the opening due to the social distancing restrictions from the virus. Just saw more pics posted on Facebook, including this one:
Going tomorrow! Hoping the need some Guinea pigs!
😍😍😍 Amazing!!! Those are my favorite type of lockers! They used to have those dryers at Riverblast, but they were taken out after about a year. I rarely saw anyone ever use those dryers though. The dryers costed at least $3 back then. Most people know that Wildfire is a great way to dry off for free. Because of this, I think that 2 dryers is a bit too many. I doubt they would have a line if they had just 1 dryer. But I still love it!
And.....we missed it by 24 hours. They are letting riders on today.
And.....we missed it by 24 hours. They are letting riders on today.
Yeah I had a feeling. I was there yesterday too.
That, and there is already another person posting in SDC's passholder group on facebook that they rode this morning. It seems that they're only letting roughly 50 people in line, and even that doesn't guarantee a ride as a lot of people towards the end of the line have been saying that the ride often shuts back down before they can board. I'm sure that more people will be able to experience it each day as they make further adjustments, though.
EDIT: It may have been a different group as I can't seem to find the post anymore. It had some really interesting photos that show the area around the first lift and elevator area.
I know it is a new ride but I wonder if this will be one of those that breaks down all the time.
Sad? Sounds to me like a unforeseen issue. I guess they could have waiting top em it till they ran this pipe but maybe they waved to get people riding and fix that later. Some folks have to nitpick things
Sad? Sounds to me like a unforeseen issue. I guess they could have waiting top em it till they ran this pipe but maybe they waved to get people riding and fix that later. Some folks have to nitpick things
Sad? Sounds to me like a unforeseen issue. I guess they could have waiting top em it till they ran this pipe but maybe they waved to get people riding and fix that later. Some folks have to nitpick things
It’s a 12 min long ride. Might be a while.
And:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9-WO-eIMZw
Even Jurassic Park had problems with some of their attractions when they opened. I think we can accept that there will be a learning curve.
Saw that Mystic River Falls does have a max height limit of 6'5". I don't know if that is temporary or not but its pretty dissapointing in my opinion. I barely meet it (I'm 6'3") but my friend is 6'7" so he wont be able to ride when we go down.
And:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9-WO-eIMZw
It doesn't appear all that wet. Maybe with weight in the boat?
I don't get all the blue lights, however.
I would not be surprised if they use this to also replace AP. I never thought about it before but yet, the building should have been a cave. Oh well, still looks fun.
And:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9-WO-eIMZw
And:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9-WO-eIMZw
Absolutely nothing in that video makes me want to ride it.
I know I'm a "What would Miss Mary say?" curmudgeon, but that looks boring and without any relevant theming.
Hopefully, MRF at least has a soundtrack to help it along.
I would not be surprised if they use this to also replace AP. I never thought about it before but yet, the building should have been a cave. Oh well, still looks fun.
AP won’t be replaced anytime soon
I would not be surprised if they use this to also replace AP. I never thought about it before but yet, the building should have been a cave. Oh well, still looks fun.
AP won’t be replaced anytime soon
I would not be surprised if they use this to also replace AP. I never thought about it before but yet, the building should have been a cave. Oh well, still looks fun.
AP won’t be replaced anytime soon
Good to hear. Though I agree it needs some upgrading it would be foolish to replace 2 water rides with 1 new one. By keeping the American Plunge after adding MRF will help keep the waiting time down on both rides.
...only thing AP really has going for it is the plunge at the end...
...only thing AP really has going for it is the plunge at the end...
It also has a lower minimum height of 36" which is huge for families. Mystic River Falls is 40"; Lost River was 36".
I know that our family will continue to ride American Plunge in addition to MRF due to the height restriction.
^ ^AP guarantees to get you wet with generally a short line. I think of AP as Charlie Brown's Christmas tree: "I never thought it was a bad ride. It just needs a little love." :)
To be fair, the ride it replaces lost its theme. In fact, the theme was barely there to begin with. Hopefully, MRF at least has a soundtrack to help it along. We know the story behind the idea of the ride, but the question remains: how much theming is in the queue?
I would assume that all future plans are fluid at this point. Any new ride is a huge investment and with the park closure earlier this year and now the low attendance numbers...I would expect they will be very conservative with their planned spending.
To be fair, the ride it replaces lost its theme. In fact, the theme was barely there to begin with. Hopefully, MRF at least has a soundtrack to help it along. We know the story behind the idea of the ride, but the question remains: how much theming is in the queue?
There’s a ton of theming in the queue building.I would assume that all future plans are fluid at this point. Any new ride is a huge investment and with the park closure earlier this year and now the low attendance numbers...I would expect they will be very conservative with their planned spending.
I would be shocked if we saw another large attraction open before 2024. There will be small infrastructure upgrades here and there but no huge additions like this
Though, anything that moves is likely perceived as "too extreme" to a lot of people complaining about the lack of new family additions.
QuoteThough, anything that moves is likely perceived as "too extreme" to a lot of people complaining about the lack of new family additions.
I believe you have to drop some coin for a good dark ride but they sure could use another. Specifically because they are not adding family rides older folks want to ride and SDC was built on family. Dollywood has kept a good mix with the additions. New coasters that were not record breakers but had appeal and flat rides to match. SDC seems to be trying to "break records", I dont know if that is a long lasting strategy for this park.
I prefer quality to quantity. Flats do nothing for me. I pass them by everywhere I go. You can ride them at any carnival. A new highly themed dark ride should be the next addition by far.
QuoteThough, anything that moves is likely perceived as "too extreme" to a lot of people complaining about the lack of new family additions.
I believe you have to drop some coin for a good dark ride but they sure could use another. Specifically because they are not adding family rides older folks want to ride and SDC was built on family. Dollywood has kept a good mix with the additions. New coasters that were not record breakers but had appeal and flat rides to match. SDC seems to be trying to "break records", I dont know if that is a long lasting strategy for this park.
I think that is all about ROI ----
Record breaking rides cost more money but they bring people to the park. We might all love dark rides but I doubt a new one would make headlines and really drive visitor numbers up.
Most people start leaving the park when they feel rain, because there are not many rides or other things to do. Most guests are there for the rides, except during November and December. Some people will stick around during the rain and some guests know about the only 2 indoor rides. For most guests, rides get boring very quick, especially if there are no other rides open. Because of this, I think a new indoor ride, dark ride, or mix of both would help TREMENDOUSLY! It will keep more people in the park and it will also be the ride for those to go to when it's too cold or too hot outside but they dont want to get wet. The more indoor rides SDC has, the better chance they have of keeping most people in the park during certain or all weather conditions.
^ I never heard them make the announcement that MRF was open. My advice is to walk by the ride every once in a while to see if a line has formed and they are taking riders. Thursday had on and off lightning in the area so MRF didn't open until later that afternoon-about 3pm I think. I did hear they are doing final testing so it should be open all day soon.
I've always had a weird fear about the storage water area that they use to put the extra rafts in (especially SFStL's Thunder River area), but man I really love this ride.
Thanks Swoosh and others that posted pictures! Looking forward to riding next Friday and Saturday!Since there has been little to no coverage of the details of Mystic River Falls, we decided to do a full walking tour of the ride queue area and then photos of the ride itself. For those who have not had the pleasure of riding MRF yet, this will at least give you some idea of what you can look forward to experiencing in the future.
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2020/08/mystic-river-falls-now-open-sdc.html
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I don't have much to add that hasn't already been said. Yes the ride is faster, there is quite a bit of raft spinning when in the river, the landscaping is well done, the drop is mild, etc.
I don't know why but I feel Lost River did a better job with the rapids and getting you wet. The rapid at the tunnel for LR was so great. The rapids on Mystic River look impressive, but just don't do the job. My feet got wet, and my butt got wet from water rolling in through the doors but everything else dry.
I think to make this ride "worth the wait on a hot day" there needs to be geysers or something that hits your upper body, head?
Jay
How wet you get is dependent on weight distribution and how many people are in your boat.