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A little over 12,000 people today...  Would have been a beautiful day to be there today..

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Branson Talk / Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
« on: Today at 07:43:46 PM »


This is quite a bit of revenue for sure. But, I have to wonder at 40 bucks a night if any real money was actually made ? If you add up all costs of a room, supplies, manpower, electricity, towels, marketing I doubt the owners are making a killing off a cheap rate. More likely they are just turning dollars over. I would gladly pay a extra 5 or 10 if it would help a local business stay a local business.  Motel rates are stagnant and probably why most places do not upgrade their facilities or cut services to survive.
I tend to stay in condos when I go so I do not take advantage of it anyway. Just asking the question or starting a conversation.
Whatever , The hard work you put into it is appreciated.
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I was told a long time ago by a motel manager...  The MOST expensive rooms.... are the "Empty" rooms..,

Likewise at the shows in town,  Most expensive seats.... are the empty ones..

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That is great news.  Might make a trip up there this week or next.

I am also thinking about a quickie unscheduled trip...  LOL

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Branson Talk / Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
« on: Today at 07:02:05 AM »
Do we have any hard data on the amount of revenue our little group brings to one of those hotels on an annual basis?  Even the $42 rate seems like a great deal to each individual but I would think when you multiply that over all of our members that take advantage of it, it would add up to quite a sum over the year.

In past years our "little" group has stayed up to and over 700 nights in a year, which of course would indicate over 28,000.00 dollars a year..  and then if you add in your friends you send, or my friends, or Mhguy's friends and so on. The room count could easily exceed the 900-1000 rooms a night. 35-40,000.00 a year in potential "income/Earnings". 
quite a number, considering all the motel has to do is take care of us..  LOL.  we do all the advertising and so on for them.
Thus my frustration when trying to pick another motel for us. Of course we have our "needs" also..  BUT for that kind of money.......  Pretty simple deal to me..

Thankfully I finally was able to talk to Ozark, and they agreed to work with us, They are very happy we are coming their way, and the meet our "qualifications"...

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FINALLY!!  A New Home for the SDCFans..!!

                OZARK VALLEY INN
        https://ozarkvalleyinnbranson.com

      Locally owned - American Owned -
      Andrea (manager) lives onsite.
Located just up the street from Classic and on the other side of SOTH..

I talked to Andrea (manager), she, the owner and the asst to the manager (Linda) all sound thrilled to be able to accomodate our group.  We worked out most of the details this morning, I will list them.  As more details and items come up I will add that to the thread.

This will be a good change for us.!    Effectively Immediately!! 

There are 64 rooms available, with stairs to upper floor
Room Rate will be 42.00 per night + tax.  (first increase we have had in 10 years).
This rate is for a Double Queen room. 
     Add-on fees for King room (as I understand it, may have to be clarified again)
     King Room only - 5.00 per night surcharge
     King Room with chair or couch - 10.00 per night surcharge
     King Room - with Jacuzzi tub and Shower/tub - 15.00 per night surcharge.

Each room has Fridge, Microwave and Coffee Pot of course.

They do have 16 adjoining rooms available.
Approz. 10 King Rooms.
7 Pet Rooms are available- They will wave the 10.00 per night fee for us, as long as you have "small" pets.
3 Smoking Rooms
Quest Laundry
Outdoor Pool
Game Room
Meeting/Conference room
Breakfast - Waffle bar, Boiled eggs, Biscuits and Gravy, home made cinnamon rolls, cereal, milk juices and the
                 other basics of course.

Only Blackout dates this year will be July 4th-5th 6th, (thurs-fri-sat).   AND  Nov 29 (Black Friday)..  These will
                 change year to year obviously

I think this a great deal for us, Make sure you thank K.D. for helping me get in contact with these people. She told me how much she appreciates our business in the past, and how she is missing seeing us. We know this will be fun for all, call them soon for reservations.
 
As always any questions? concerns? PM me, and I will help sort through it with Andrea and we will figure it out.!!

I warned them they would start receiving calls for reservations right away. LOL

So start calling them!! @ 417-336-4666.  Talk to Andrea. 
Remember to identify yourselves as SDCfans members...

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Branson Talk / Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
« on: April 18, 2019, 10:14:12 AM »
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Why the concern for "American owned"? And how do you define "American"?

If the service is good, the citizenship or national origin of the owner shouldn't matter. And if it's not good, it still shouldn't matter.

I could recommend (but will not) some hotels that would make you change your mind.  In Branson!
Its a culture thing, most of the time other cultures are not practiced in maintaining the standards we are used to in our hotels.  It is what it is.   If you ask if its American owned and they lie to you you have a good idea what you are in for.  I believe they often buy businesses without the proper capital it takes to maintain, they are milked for every bit of life they have in them and end up like the hotels along 76.   When you have been burned for good money you begin to distrust the situation.  You cant complain, comment or try to work out a problem when the person you are arguing with doesn't understand what our standards are.  Please take a moment to consider what has occurred at the Classic....We were standing customers there and probably pretty permissive with errors and shortcomings with the owners because of our special deal.  Now we are unable to secure a room and trust we are being charged the proper rate without earning it through extended debate.  They are unable to play by western business standards like a verbal agreement that netted the previous owners 40-50000 a year!!   This is why people dont want to bother, when you are on a trip it is for enjoyment and this type situation is in conflict with my relaxation.
   

Overlooking the Cultural differences, since MH pretty well stated the obvious. :D

How about the Economics of the situations?.. ::).

IF a company or facility is owned by " non americans", then the Profit from that company is going somewhere overseas, this is a plain and simple fact.

Yes, I realize, you have local employees (maybe), and their wages. taxes, living expenses stay here. (in theory).

Thats assuming they are doing there taxes legit and keeping everything current,

I have heard of stories of overtime with no compensation, now worker comp, no insurance, and nothing is done because of foreign ownership.  If it gets too bad for the current owner, business is simply closed or resold to another Non american , then reopened under a different name/entity and it starts all over again..

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Branson Talk / Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
« on: April 16, 2019, 07:32:09 PM »
While we were driving over there last week the wife was on her phone and somehow came across a website or something that has several of the motels in Branson were for sale. Since I was curious I googled and came up with this.  I wonder if any of these are currently American owned and may soon not be.  Maybe we should all chip in and by one of them

https://www.loopnet.com/missouri/branson_hotels-for-sale/

There is a little motel on 265, I thought would always be a nice palce to won.. 
IF you really wanted to,
good location, quiet, 20-25 rooms it looks like.. easy to maintain and handle...
IF you really wanted to..  LOL

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: I am a complete moron
« on: April 16, 2019, 01:32:19 PM »
So they say that is a 10 story drop out of the station, so however many feet that is.  It is surprising the phone is not worse off than it was.

In theory, 10 stories is 100 feet. 
Obviously landed on mulch and grass, had it hit one of the concrete blocks they used retained walls there would have parts of phone in Branson..... LOL

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2019 Daily Attendance
« on: April 16, 2019, 11:29:38 AM »
That AND it was a Sunday, AND school is still in session..   Along with I am sure people are planning on trips next weekend, rather than this weekend..

Hopefully, people aren't planning on this Sunday since they are closed for Easter. We've almost made that mistake before, but luckily we checked the hours before heading out. We know a few people that have actually driven to the park and then realized that they were closed.

Good Point.!!  Glad you mentioned it.! 
I am sure there are several carloads drive out there to visit and figure out that the City is closed..

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Branson Talk / Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
« on: April 16, 2019, 11:10:54 AM »
Check with Ozark Valley Inn, just a couple of doors closer to the zoo.  Still American owned, not far off of the price range already, and we really liked it the last time we stayed.

Thats correct,
KD knows that manager and is supposed to get us in the front door.. 
I will send her a message abotu that.. 
I know she has been busy with new job...

thanks, sirwillow

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Branson Talk / Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
« on: April 16, 2019, 09:31:53 AM »
The last couple of times we have not stayed at one of the Hilton properties we stayed at the Honeysuckle Inn which is right next door to the Imax.  Price is just a few bucks more than the classic rate was supposed to be but the place is a lot nicer.  They have a much better breakfast and they have a nice indoor pool and hot tub area.  I think it was about $60 with tax and everything Saturday night.  I wonder if those folks would be open to a group deal for us.

I dont know, Maybe?    I didnt talk to them when we made the move from homestay to Classic..

I used to stay there also, Great Breakast, INdoor pool is nice, rates were comparable, but then they become owned by "other " people, thats when I moved to Homestay..

But now since about 90% of the lodging there is no longer American Owned,   Maybe I should talk to them. ?? :o :o

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Branson Talk / Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
« on: April 15, 2019, 04:11:00 PM »
What I am wondering is why everyone is still going to the place?! Is it strictly the "deal" they are (or sometimes are) offering? It's certainly not the service...so why keep going back? KD isn't even there any more...so why give business to a place that obviously sucks and who's owners don't care??

My family gave Homestay Inn/Eagles Lodge a lot of business over the years for two reasons. 1. It was a great deal, and 2. Paige was a wonderful host who CARED about her facility AND her guest.

Anyway...just my 2 cents on Classic Motor Inn.

Agreed with all the above..

But The rate is good, I like the location of motel. ( of course that is just of the reasons I chose it initially).   I dont like the owner/manager, BUT as long as rooms stay "clean", and the rates dont change, I will be staying there..  UNTIL I can find another location,
BUT with the season already started now,
I dont see that happening until next fall.. 
But maybe with some of K.D's help, we will find/figure something out

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2019 Daily Attendance
« on: April 15, 2019, 04:06:00 PM »
Cold and wet....

3900 people..!!!
When we got there just after noon the wet was long gone and cleared out.  Turned into a beautiful day.
But what little wet there was I'm sure contributed to those numbers being low.
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That AND it was a Sunday, AND school is still in session..   Along with I am sure people are planning on trips next weekend, rather than this weekend..

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: I am a complete moron
« on: April 14, 2019, 08:37:06 PM »
Glad you got it back, too bad about damage.. 

Interesting that once again, it is who you know........ That helps gets results.. :)

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2019 Daily Attendance
« on: April 14, 2019, 08:22:16 PM »
It was absolutely wonderful today from a guest's perspective.  Crowds were light. Time Traveler was about a 10 minute wait, train was running every 30 minutes with plenty of room left on each one.  Outlaw Run, Flooded Mine, and TNT were walk ons.  Looked like much of FL was as well when we walked by.  And lots of seats left in the couple of shows we attended.

Cold and wet....

3900 people..!!!

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