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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: November 24, 2018, 08:14:40 PM »
Dollars and cents behind it all. We don't see the real cost/benefits, just what we like and don't like. Revamping lost river is a wash for me, but somehow it must be saving them a ton of money. AP might be a cheap ride to keep going at the moment. The squeeky wheel gets the grease as they say.

General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: Attendance numbers
« on: November 24, 2018, 08:11:37 PM »
Word on the street is that it's another record breaker... and it's just now getting dark. They've already closed everything off from the outside and are turning people away. 76 is a giant cluster as always. You can't exactly turn around until you get to the park...

WOW!!  turning people away? is that a first?..

as of 6:00 this evening 25,850...

Who in this group keeps track of top days of attendence??

today and last saturday should be in the top 5? maybe for sure top 10.

Not even close to a first. This has happened numerous times at Christmas, and sometimes during some of the popular summer events if I recall correctly. We discussed it a lot last year as during our speculations about the area around TT.

I had thought that around 26000 was the limit, but who knows. I don't think 35000 is possible. Probably be a few days to hear the real number.

General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: Attendance numbers
« on: November 24, 2018, 05:15:18 PM »
Word on the street is that it's another record breaker... and it's just now getting dark. They've already closed everything off from the outside and are turning people away. 76 is a giant cluster as always. You can't exactly turn around until you get to the park...

Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: November 24, 2018, 05:14:02 PM »
Interesting that they have started open construction so soon, but it makes sense if they want to get everything ripped out and a new path opened up ASAP. I'm sure they'll at the very least have a temporary gravel bypass path around the site next year. Maybe they'll construct everything path-side first so they can get that stuff opened up again by summer.

Today is one of the days that really shows the importance of opening the park up and getting more crowd room put in place wherever they can. The park apparently hit somewhere around 29,000 guests today and had to close the gates again.

I hate to see so much ripped out and replaced, but then reality hits and you can't deny that they have to do something. Still think they need to work more on the front gate area before they do more huge new attractions, but I'm sure it's all been planned out in this order for a reason.

SDC Memories/ Park History / Re: Pictures from the Past!
« on: November 21, 2018, 10:32:12 AM »
Here is a slide/picture from 1977 of an old popcorn wagon on Main Street.  It looks like the Shot Tower is just to the left, and the Gazebo is just to the right in this picture.

I'm pretty sure they still use this cart? I noticed it on my last visit and wondered where it came from since it kind of looked custom made.

General Silver Dollar City Talk / 2018 USA Today Holiday Event Poll
« on: November 21, 2018, 10:28:32 AM »
SDC is once again vying for the top spot on USA Today's Holiday park event poll.

This is a big marketing thing for them, so they really appreciate any votes you can send their way. You can vote once each day from any device.

Branson Talk / Re: Grand Palace is sold at auction...
« on: November 15, 2018, 02:43:40 PM »
They aren't asking for "free land", they are asking for permission to build into the ROW for their giant octopus thing that will interact with the sidewalk. This is something that Branson has encouraged developers to do as part of the Spirit of 76 project.

Tax incentives are a no-brainer here. On a macro level, they get abused a lot, but if you want big, unique developments you have to help them along. They are taking a bigger risk vs. someone building a walmart or a hotel. If this gets built, everyone will benefit from the increased traffic. You can't really say the same about most general development (although developers certainly try to).

Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: November 14, 2018, 08:54:34 AM »
So to bring some of the Lost River speculation over to the 2020 thread (since it is supposedly a 2020 project after all). It turns out that Knott's is also rebuilding their old river rapids ride. What interests me though is the amount of theming and animatronics that Knott's is putting into it. Lost River had that huge building to work with for years and didn't do much with it except for the waterfall gag. Makes me hopeful that a new iteration of the ride could be quite thematic.

Construction/Rumors / Re: Fire in the Hole changes coming?
« on: November 13, 2018, 01:13:57 PM »
Sure it's an option. Why wouldn't it be?

We have no idea what the park has planned or even what their true motivations are. The buildings might end up being declared total losses when they go in for a refurb, and then they end up deciding to build something completely different. They might just want something different in any case.

Who knows what will happen eventually. Looks like we get to enjoy them for at least another year in the mean time.

Construction/Rumors / Re: Fire in the Hole changes coming?
« on: November 12, 2018, 08:02:52 PM »
It's definitely been an on-going discussion on here for years now, both FITH and Flooded Mine. Almost every year we ask if they are finally going to re-do one of them, but they keep them chugging along as-is.

It's only a matter of time really. Both are having trouble with basic wood rot and issues that haven't been kept on top of like they should have been. At this point I fear the park will want to gut or tear down both and rebuild with new versions. I wouldn't mind the "new" so much if they could keep some of the old theming and keep the same basic "feel" of the ride.

The current big rumor is that Lost River is being re-done for 2020 (based on tram announcements that it will be closed next year). I guess the earliest they could even start on one of the classics would be that year unless something really breaks or fails a major inspection.

Branson Talk / Re: Snow Slopes Coming to Branson Area..
« on: November 12, 2018, 01:58:55 PM »
So we actually went and did the snowflex thing on Sunday morning. It was a lot of fun as a group activity. I thought it was decently fun, but it definitely felt like a glorified giant slide vs. a sledding experience. For the price, even with our discount, it's a bit steep, but it's a big professional setup at least. It's great with a big group or family because you can either race or hold on to each other. The group as a whole really enjoyed it and plan to do it again next year.

The first slides were a little slow, but it turns out they have a misting system built in that wets the slide down, so once it was wet we had some nice speed over the humps. It was a bit odd getting misted on a "sledding" hill though. I'll bet it's nicer in the summer though.

It's not nearly as big a slide as the one pictured on the first page of this thread, but it's a decent hill and it has some nice humps built in. There is a conveyor belt that you stand on to go up the hill instead of walking. Unfortunately is strains under the weight of more than a few people and doesn't go very fast. In ~1 hour we got something like 8-10 rides in I think. Everyone seemed to be satisfied with the amount of slides we got in.

The rest of the Wolf Mountain complex looks awesome. The ziplines are where they really shine, and I would believe it if someone told me they were the best in Branson. They've got some good topography to work with there and it's nice and wooded.

Getting to Wolf Mountain is the worst part. They are literally right off of 65 a ways North of Branson, but you can only get there going North. It's a quick little turn-off, and if you miss it you have to loop around back to it.

They have my seal of approval if you want to do something a bit different and adventurous with your family or group. It's not a mind-blowing experience or anything, but the whole place is really well-done as a whole.

Branson Talk / Re: Shepherd of the Hills - New Adventure Park
« on: November 12, 2018, 01:42:27 PM »
There's so much being done at SOTH right now. Large new building addition under construction, the new ropes course thing looks great, and the trail of lights and trail rides look to be really nice. It looks like it is really coming together and becoming a full fledged attraction again.  I am definitely planning on checking it out next year.

General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2018 Trip Reports
« on: November 12, 2018, 01:39:23 PM »
It was a tough Coaster Christmas this year with the unexpected arctic blast, but SDC was enjoyable as always for me at least. The rides had a narrow operating window on Sat. due to the temps. Time Traveler operated for about 30 mins or so? The train had some trouble and didn't open till late in the day, but we snagged a spot on the last ride. Really makes you appreciate the indoor rides...
Sunday was better for rides, but Time Traveler was down all day with technical problems (or at least it never opened by the time I left)

The presentations were nice as always. Not a lot coming to the region next year unless you are as excited about the year of shows at SDC as I am. I like that WOF is focusing on theming, park atmosphere, and their own identity again from the sounds of it. SFStL was a no-show again.

ERT was cancelled due to temps, but they gave out trailblazers for the ACE members who flew in to ride stuff. A lot of them snagged at least one ride on TT before it closed at least. There were no back stage tours this year, probably due to the huge number of registrants that were expected this year. When CC started it was just ~50 or less, but this year I think there were more than 200 sign-ups? A number of people flew in or drove 9 hours just to see Time Traveler.

I personally had a good time just walking around, hanging out with big Steve, seeing Matt again, and having some good food.

Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: November 12, 2018, 01:29:15 PM »
I think the train is still the star of the park. Lines get ridiculous for it at various times of the year, and I know it sucks for kids when they can't get a ride in due to the huge line. Even just adding another car would be a huge improvement. But I digress, I don't see anything happening with it anytime in the forseeable future now that they have the new engines in place.

In actual 2019/2020 "news", Brad didn't give any real clues about the potential Lost River project at Coaster Christmas, but he did say that 2020 is park's 60th anniversary and that there will be a number of announcements throughout 2019 to get people hyped. He said there will be something to look forward to... There wasn't a Q/A session this time, so no one asked about it.

There are indeed no obvious signs of construction/demolition in the area yet. I didn't ride the trams, so I don't know if they are still mentioning Lost River or not.

Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: November 06, 2018, 08:32:28 AM »

Going off this post (and your post over at Toilet Paper Residue)...
The redirection of the road near TT is setting up long term plans.  Things are not done being changed in that area.  You mentioned your curiosity on why such drastic changes for “little gain” - the issue here is you are only judging by what you can see.  The park is slowly building (and rebuilding) their infrastructure.  The older structures featured utilities that were in need of expensive upgrades.  While sentimental attachment to the old is understandable, it’s not cost effective in the long run.  These new structures are better equipped to handle the needs of today and I predict that all future ride additions will come with a new “land” and not just the ride as the entire park is upgraded systematically.  This really started with the RiverBlast area and has continued ever since.

Oh I get it. I've speculated before about them having very long term plans to basically rebuild the park just from an engineering and logistics standpoint. I'm just saying we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves with expectations just yet. Replacing Lost River is already an ambitious project. The other things in the area are probably also in a longer term plan, but I'm going to wait and see what gets closed off next year before I get too dismayed about things being torn down. Sometimes things get scaled back, and sometimes we overestimate the extent of things based on rumors anyway.

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