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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2023 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: October 26, 2021, 03:20:41 PM »
I would think the chances are basically nil if they are really rebuilding anything similar to FITH. The RMC powered coaster prototype rumor seems most logically sound.

Plus it would be an odd choice after Time Traveler, especially with two other looping coasters in the park already. They don't need anymore inverting coasters unless it is something unique like a flyer or an invert or something. The park is in far more need of good family coasters. Plural.

Random Talk / Snoop Dogg and Harlem Globetrotters to create NFT sitcom
« on: October 21, 2021, 03:05:05 PM »

The NFT craze continues to get weirder, and now HFE has a tie to the crypto world. A Snoop Dogg/Globetrotters sitcom sounds great, but the NFT tie in is awful forced. NFT people keep trying to make them a thing... but they really don't need to be a thing.

Not sure if we'll be able to watch this thing or not yet. The article is still scant on details of how it's actually being released. The Vast website that is mentioned seems like a spam honeypot that you have to enter your info into in order to sign up for "giveaways". Assuming I found the correct site of course.

Herschend Entertainment Studios just picked up a major new hire: Sarah Maizes, a former executive at the Jim Henson Company. Seems like they are preparing to put more focus into this arm of the company. I saw that the 'Chuggington" series just got past a billion views on youtube and has over a million subscribers. I wonder how much revenue that really brings them though...

With this new hire they may be preparing to get into the bigger leagues with film and media production.

General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2021 Crowds/Trip Reports
« on: October 18, 2021, 08:59:20 AM »
Must have been intense on Saturday. I hope they had two trains running on at least a few of the coasters... I'm surprised that Mystic is still going with the weather getting colder. When it finally stops that's one less major ride to spread the crowds out, but at least the employees can be utilized elsewhere.

We have already pretty much ruled out going on the weekends during Christmas.

Food lines have been terrible. I waited with my family for probably an hour last weekend for them to get dinner at the tater patch. I had those pumpkin/sweet potato balls... they were not good. The pumpkin/coconut curry was decent, but nothing to write home about and a much smaller portion than what is shown for like $15. All-in-all a bit of a letdown foodwise this year, mostly because they simply can't keep up with limited staff.

General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2021 Crowds/Trip Reports
« on: October 12, 2021, 01:30:41 PM »
Expect HUGE crowds this weekend. It's Oklahoma's Fall Break and I'm doing a last minute search for hotels, rentals, etc. for my family and there are not many options left (especially Friday night). Thousand Hills will not let you search for rooms this weekend...I did find some things for $4000+ a night (I do not have that kind of cash).

Anyway, should be a big crowd in Branson this weekend.


Wow, what on earth would justify 4 grand a night in branson? Sounds like a drug laundering scheme, lol. Nothing in Branson is THAT fancy.

Pudgy, we must have just missed each other! I came to the picking shed just before they started playing, but left early to go ride stuff with my nephew. It's great to hear that Jack still gets out there.

General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2021 Crowds/Trip Reports
« on: October 12, 2021, 08:26:53 AM »
TT originally had three trains and was setup to have a separate unload station from the loading area. That's part of why it has that long bridge. I don't know why they have never operated it as designed after the first season. I guess someone crunched the numbers and realized how much they get from Trailblazers due to the long lines... what we always said would happen. Once a park starts making profit off of lines, the park is actually incentivized to create and sustain them...

Anyway, I wish we could get the numbers for last Saturday. I'm being told they used all the lots and maybe even one of the satellite parking lots? That would make it similar to Christmas season crowds. It definitely felt a little uncomfortably busy, but not quite the actual crushing crowds of Christmas. Part of that may have been the fact that all the pumpkin fest stuff directs people to the back of the park where there's more room rather than bunching everyone up in the main square. Still think the park is in for some real struggles once November hits.

General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2021 Crowds/Trip Reports
« on: October 10, 2021, 08:01:23 PM »
I have been told by several people that one of TT's trains was sold to Plopsaland for ride to Happiness. Not sure what they were thinking, but perhaps they were offered a bunch of money for it and will replace it later? I feel like supply chain issues probably had something to do with it.

General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2021 Crowds/Trip Reports
« on: October 10, 2021, 11:13:02 AM »
The music sets a feel for younger audiences the same way bluegrass sets a feel for us. They are going for a super lively feeling for pumpkin fest. It does kind of clash with the harvest fest, and I think the kidsbob songs are super annoying, but I understand what they are going for.

Anyway, I had a great visit Friday-Sat. Really enjoyed the crafts on the main square, and the weather was unexpectedly great. This was my first time seeing the pumpkin stuff actually since I never managed to make it down during fall the last couple of years. The dance square was very lively, but kind of a hodge-podge of stuff going on. I was surprised by how many enjoyed the corny DJs and dance party. It really looked and sounded like a group zumba exercise. Still, very fun and lively, and obviously it is brining in the crowds because Saturday was PACKED.

Only negatives were one train/one side operation on basically everything but Wildfire, which managed to break down for a good part of Friday. Outlaw Run appears to have a train in pieces that was being worked on. I don't know what the excuse is for everything else. They used one train on TNT friday, and then the other on Saturday, so clearly both work. Saturday was so packed there was no excuse for using one train unless they have serious parts and labor shortages. The line for TNT was through the tunnel. One train on Time Traveler is always ridiculous. Still can't believe they sold one.

FITH and Flooded Mine were running decently though! Some sound effects still missing in both, but that is a constant battle.

Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2023 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: October 08, 2021, 11:57:53 PM »
Double posting to note that I was at the park today and fresh photos are on our Facebook page. The construction site is just cleared trees and some utilities being laid at the moment. I'm sure we'll see a lot more next year as they start constructing the actual building.  I telling what we are in for until we see a building footprint.

Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2023 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: October 08, 2021, 11:55:54 PM »
Sadly, I think there was a time when the park was much more of a "preservation of the older times" sort of park. in the late 60's thru the 80's - Theme parks were newer overall.

Nowadays it is way, way more about entertaining the visitors than educating them. in the past it was more a mix of both; certainly at least 50/50.   Now its seem more like about 80 ent/20 edu. Over time the craftsman and the learning some history with your visit, gives way to the hurry up and wait in line for the newest ride or show.

Times change, and I get it. Fortunately, the theming through out the park is so strong, that it still looks mostly as it did. Priority's in the market can certainly cause that to change quickly though. I think that's what people fear most, the loss of the parts of SDC that gave each of them the best memories.     

SDC stopped being a tongue in cheek recreation of Marmaros several decades ago. The construction of Thunderation was the first nail, then buzzsaw falls, then wildfire really drove it home. SDC is a theme park with a really interesting central theme and a great history. They still do a great job with storytelling and customer service among other things, but it is a theme park with modern theme park crowds and they have to evolve with the times as they always have. They have over 2 million guests per year and growing. It's just business.

If they can at least keep the central theme alive and do a decent job with theming and storytelling, I'll be happy.

Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2023 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: October 07, 2021, 10:06:42 AM »
Very cool, thanks legoerosion.

Here is a resized version of your photo that might be easier to view.

Looks like they are busy adding in a new waterline to support the area.

I will be there tomorrow to get some updated photos.

Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2023 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: October 04, 2021, 08:58:11 AM »
As a 28 year old who has been going to SDC since I was born, I like the changes. Now with that, I have many fond memories of the "old SDC" with LR, FITH and FM. I remember being terrified of LR and FM because the queue lines were super dark and enclosed, but in my opinion, every change that has been made has been for the better. I was mortified when Buzz Saw Falls was removed, but it made room for my favorite ride on park. Now, I understand it was removed for reasons not related to age and being "old". Or when the park got rid of the old green trams and trolleys, heartbreaking.

I think MRF is way better than LR, even though I miss the classic LR, especially the cave. If SDC continues this, and I think it will, the new FITH will be just as good or even better than the old FITH.

I love the idea of a newer, larger train station. Even though I have many memories of the old one, it has run its course. IMO. Having to wait sometimes all the way to corkscrew pass is crazy and if you're just walking through the area, it can be extremely congested.

I personally think and area that needs an overhaul is the entrance. When it's a busy day, the ticket booth line is insane and just trying to get in through security and turnstiles can be tight.

One thing to keep in mind is if the turnstiles don't move, there is no SDC. We all know that. With costs going up it creates the need for them to turn even more. If this is a way to do that and get a nod to the old SDC, then it's what the park has to do. You have to adapt and create new things or you become old, stagnant and the same ol' SDC. Regardless of how much we all love the old SDC, the newer generation, might now and that's the future.

All good points.

Whatever they are building should be impressive and fun for a new generation. It is still interesting to note how things change, and I do worry about them building something that won't have the same reliability, broad appeal, or staying power as the old FITH. It's like watching your favorite movie get remade with a bunch of unproven actors.

I'm sure they are taking many things into account. I just hope the urge for a "world's first" or extreme marketing angle doesn't take over on this one. I also just want it to stay open reliably. Even the Six Flags Justice League Dark Rides from not too many years ago are having a hard time staying open these days. Once the shine is off, parks tend to stop investing in "special" rides like dark rides that take more technical upkeep.

I thought the front entrance would have been redone by now. Not sure what the hold up is there. At this point I hope they are holding off until they can plant a giant resort right there with it. Just take up the whole area where the handicap parking is now.

Other Parks / Re: Dogpatch USA sells for $1.12 million
« on: October 01, 2021, 03:32:16 PM »
Good grief, he is actually going to call it that after he demolished so many historic structures, some of which dated back to the original town of Marble, AR?

Johnny is a doofus. From what I hear he is literally tearing the place up to make it look "more natural". There is a rumor that they have dynamited the natural cave spring to make it bigger and more impressive. I'm sure he is adding in plenty of fake waterfalls too.

Big fat meh.

Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2023 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: September 30, 2021, 11:49:58 AM »
Yes, it was at one point. Then it was an ironic smoking area for awhile.

I'm not saying there should be an outcry to save it or anything, I just think it's another interesting example of the park evolving over time. I just don't think it's the type of humor that SDC goes for anymore. Everything now has to be so upbeat and positive. Even hill billy references are frowned upon because a lot of that "makes fun" of poverty, even though it used to be done in a laughing-with-them sort of way. The new theming will undoubtedly be very positive and focus on heroism and firefighters as opposed to a bunch of dopy baldknobbers and frantic townspeople characters.

You can bet there won't be a hanging scene anymore, lol!

Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2023 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: September 29, 2021, 09:04:57 AM »
I notice no one is crying out for Fireman's Cemetery, lol! That is one of the last remnants of the tongue and cheek old SDC that I barely notice myself anymore, but will miss. That particular brand of humor defined the park for the first few generations, but now it probably seems sacrilegious.

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