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General Silver Dollar City Talk / New Christmas Show - Home for Christmas
« on: September 14, 2021, 03:58:29 PM »
Today SDC made a surprise announcement of a new broadway style show for Old Time Christmas: Home For Christmas.

It looks interesting. I haven't been able to watch the full video with sound yet, but I'm just happy to see renewed investment into shows!

Construction/Rumors / Re: Future SDC Development Speculation (Long-term)
« on: September 12, 2021, 11:26:54 AM »
I see that "someone" has been spreading the FITH rebuild rumor on reddit, with the added tidbit about it being an RMC project with a new powered car design. We'll see. We know that the reaper is getting closer and closer to FITH and Flooded Mine, but after the Mystic River debacle I'm far less excited to see the replacements. I will say they did a good job with the appearance and theming of Mystic River, but it's hard to like a ride that barely operates and has half the throughput of the ride it replaced. I definitely don't trust RMC to build a reliable ride, especially with a brand new highly technical design.

Construction/Rumors / Re: SDCís 2022 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: September 09, 2021, 02:36:46 PM »
Apparently they were riding the train and started seeing things after passing the "round house". People occasionally say they see things in that area, but it's part of the maintenance area so they are always moving things around back there. If there's stuff going on around the area where they have the pumpkins square and such, that could be interesting since we have speculated that at minimum that area will be expanded and improved for festivals if nothing else. I'm guessing they will eventually fit a ride in there somehow.

Construction/Rumors / Re: SDCís 2022 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: September 09, 2021, 11:20:52 AM »
One of our readers told me they saw a new fence and some construction markings at the park. If anyone sees anything, snap a photo for us! Could be surveying/marking for a 2023 project, given how slow they tend to go with these things.

I will probably try to head up there for the first weekend in October to see what I can see.

Construction/Rumors / Re: SDCís 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: September 07, 2021, 03:19:30 PM »
Very cool. Glad to see it's official, and the extra show is a nice surprise. Will be weird without the Wallace's though, so whatever casting they do to replace them will make or break the show.

Just hope they have enough staff for all this...

Construction/Rumors / Re: SDCís 2022 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: August 26, 2021, 11:38:31 AM »
We can dream. With the massive expansions that they've continued to pour into DW, one can assume they aren't going to let off the gas with SDC either. That area is apparently specifically marked for maintenance area expansion since they've been encroaching on old maintenance areas with new additions such as the new event area and the rumored FL coaster/FITH replacement. They are eventually going to fill in much of that valley to flatten areas for maintenance buildings and greenhouses and such.

What will really excite me is if we see them start to work in the area north of Fireman's Landing where we've often speculated they could fit in a large new attraction pretty easily.

It's been a quiet, sad august for theme park fans. Usually now is the time that all the parks are announcing new stuff, but even SDC has been quiet about next year. Seaworld parks just announced that their 2020 coasters are finally opening for 2022.  ::)
Fingers crossed that 2022 ends up being more of what we thought 2021 was going to be. Tired of saying this, but surely by then things will have leveled off again...

General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2021 Crowds/Trip Reports
« on: August 13, 2021, 01:17:51 PM »
Yeah I'm aware of the visa issues, just saying they have gone to lengths in the past to keep the park staffed, but now I'm not seeing the same level of effort. I feel like they aren't offering enough incentives, and haven't been focused on retention very well for a long time. Even before covid hit retention was an issue.

Which will SDC get first - dorms or a resort? We needed both years ago, IMO.

The park is advertising kids prices this weekend. Will be interesting to see if that packs it out like the $35 thursdays used to sometimes. It's going to be stormy off and on though.

General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2021 Crowds/Trip Reports
« on: August 13, 2021, 08:38:21 AM »
^Of course, DW seems like they are always on their game. Not sure why SDC doesn't have the same amount of vision behind it. Maybe it's because HFEC management is too busy buying aquariums that don't even make money. These guys have been around long enough to know what the park needs. Back in 2003 they brought over hundreds of foreign workers because that's what it took with both CC and SDC open at the same time. Whatever it takes.

General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2021 Crowds/Trip Reports
« on: August 12, 2021, 12:25:04 PM »
I actually really liked the MRF theming apart from the weird billboard. It's about an average level of theming for a ride at SDC. The rockwork is truly stunning.

At least you made it on the ride! How long did you have to wait?

Those staffing issues are still a problem and it isn't getting better. In fact, I have heard it is actually getting worse as people burn out. SDC has been trying band aid solutions for too long. They should pulled a Cedar Fair and built employee housing. They actually used to do this at one point. They simply can't get enough people right now. I don't know what they'll do this winter...

Construction/Rumors / Re: SDCís 2022 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: August 09, 2021, 01:08:46 PM »
It's still early. I suppose we could be surprised with something small. There have been no rumblings that I am aware of. With covid still an issue, I wouldn't be surprised if they are still holding off. Mystic River still isn't quite up to speed yet with where they want it to be and they are probably still working on it, among other things with their festivals and such. I don't even know what to expect for 2023 at this rate. The new FITH replacement seemed like a sure bet before the pandemic, but who knows what they will do now.

White Water Discussion / Re: White Water 2022 possible project
« on: July 27, 2021, 08:29:08 AM »
They are beyond due for something -anything- new. We have talked for years about how this park is undersized for the market and how it doesn't live up to it's potential despite being nicely themed in some areas. It simply needs more slides and attractions.

Here's hoping for a new slide tower next year.

General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2021 Crowds/Trip Reports
« on: July 23, 2021, 03:24:41 PM »
It's good to remember that not every emergency that happens at a park is directly related to the rides or park itself. Inevitably when you have thousands of guests each and every day, things happen. Hope anyone involved is doing OK.

That sounds like a rough day. I imagine the Time Traveler line was at least a couple hours long if the park was crowded, but at least it's indoors! Strange that Wildfire would be down all day. I feel like in some ways, 2021 has been rougher on the parks than 2020. Obviously they are glad to have the crowds back, but most parks aren't ready for them due to staffing and such. A lot of other parks are having similar issues with not enough maintenance staff to keep things running smoothly.

General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2021 Crowds/Trip Reports
« on: July 23, 2021, 08:15:15 AM »
Yes, it's amazing how SWMO/NWA is the current epicenter, but maybe not surprising. I don't think it will last through to Old Time Christmas simply because everyone will have had it by then...

I don't think there's any political will to impose more restrictions, but who knows. It could get bad enough that they don't have any options. They are already sending MO patients to Tulsa. I'm sure the park is scared to do anything themselves because their customer base is already pissed about last year/early this year, and it's become so political now that customers will openly revolt.

I think for the next couple of months attendance will be lighter while this is going on, but that's kind of expected at this point in the year anyway. Hopefully the wave passes by October.

General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: Dickens characters fired?
« on: July 20, 2021, 11:30:09 AM »
Guessing it will be all new music unless they signed some deals, lol. Without Rachel and David though, it will be a very different show in any case. Those two were undeniably talented, and a large part of what made the old show stand out. It's going to be hard to make a new Dicken's that doesn't come across like a high school production without some good actors.

General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2021 Crowds/Trip Reports
« on: July 12, 2021, 11:47:45 AM »
When I rode MRF a couple of weeks ago, it appeared like most of the boats were full or near full. It still was a long wait though...probably about an hour.

Hmm, that makes me hopeful. Of course, they still don't have as many boats running as they predicted and I don't think that can change unless they modify the channel somehow. I am very curious what their highest put through has been versus what LR's average was. Three hour lines to only maybe actually get on is just ridiculous.

I'm amazed they re-opened it so fast.

Sure hope they find some more employees by fall. I wonder how many have moved away from Branson over the past year? Where can incoming workers actually live now? I think Branson got used to using a certain crowd that lived out of some of the cheaper rentals - some of which have been forced to shut down recently. Now that many of them are gone, there's no one to replace them and no where for new people to come in unless they want to commute from Springfield.

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