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Sorry guys, you're mistaken.  I can understand the confusion because SDC hasn't fully explained and the animation on it was particularly bad on that aspect.  But you're a bit confused on how this works when it comes to the rotating.

This is a gravity/ physics spin, with the spinning starting/ caused in the same way as on other spinning coasters.  The "control" is on how fast it can spin, not on direction or when/ where it starts.  It won't spin on the drop because there aren't any forces changing direction from side to side which is what causes the spin.  That's why it will start on the turns.  But it isn't going to be a rapid/ fast spin because they have "brakes" that limit how fast it will rotate.

I would imagine that, like other spinning coasters, it's a separate mechanism on it that straightens out the cars when they get back to the station.

I understand that spin probably will not start until the first curve and that the operators will not  have any real control of the spin.  It all depends on the environment factors how it spins (passenger weight distribution, drag, wind, wheel ware, train speed, etc) but with the previous statements it did sound like Mack was doing something different with this one to help insure it doesn't 'over spin'.  It does afterall have the most intense spinning coaster design of all time.


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From what I saw and understood it will work in almost the same way as disc brakes do on a car. But instead of metallic/ceramic pads coming in contact with a metal disk rotor there will be magnetic blocks positioned on either side of a metal ring at the base of the carriage that will be activated to control the system via a speed sensor if it starts to reach a certain rotational speed.

Nice....I thought I saw or read it would be magnetic controlled.  Hopefully the plate can make it smooth slow down without the feeling of 'breaking' the spin.  That is some pretty amazing technology.

Are the the launches magnetic or hydraulics?

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As far as spin, I would guess/assume that that can be turned off if not wanting to be used..  probably just a hydraulic valve or possible a locking mechanism.     I would expect them to do runs first, then start on the spining cars and the timing of that part of ride.. (maybe not).

All of the video showing off the rie show the cars spinning out of the launch...  UNLESS shave is right, possibly the employees spin the car by hand as the train launches....

That's one of the major problems with the animation video- it's very inaccurate in how it shows the spinning.

From what they've said, you can't "turn off" the spin.  They have it regulated so it won't spin fast, but it will rotate.  But that's going to happen based on how the weight of the riders is distributed in the cars, and it won't start until it hits a turn because that's when the weight will affect how the car goes through the turn.  Coming straight out of the station it won't have any affect, so the cars won't be spinning on the first drop.

"You canna' change the laws of physics, Jim."  :-)

I assume the spin is physically stopped at the end of the ride....either by operators or mechanically.  I've never actually have rode a spinner before. 

Keep an eye out for how my trash cans they setup by the exit.

I remember during the announcement that they talked about having some tech to 'govern' the spin.  So it wouldn't surprise me at all if they could control if the spin is completely on or off.  I'd love to ride it locked forward backward and sideways all the way.

I am wondering if the ride operator will be able to give the car a kick before clearing the station (probably not).

Plus....if we don't like it....we can just use it to go back in time and fix it...lol

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2018 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: December 14, 2017, 08:56:10 AM »
Can't help but notice it is not spinning.  I want to learn how that is controlled and if either the riders or operators will be able to start a spin out of the station.

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Other Parks / Re: Dogpatch Update 12/17
« on: December 12, 2017, 09:31:17 AM »
Yeah... I haven't been as involved with Dogpatch as some, but I don't think many in the Dogpatch community are terribly excited about this. On the surface, their intentions sound nice, but the company itself just doesn't feel very professional - to put it lightly. Look up their videos on youtube...

Basically they seem like they want to jump onto the alt-right bandwagon and make dogpatch into a hardcore conservative disneyland. This is actually the revival of a previous venture that had a christian ministry theme-park of sorts in Charlotte which crashed and burned due to dubious non-profit status and a major sex scandal.

I mean I don't want to get political and dog people for being conservative, but these guys are in the deep end and I forsee this venture churning up a lot of muck if they actually get off the ground.

I'm just hoping they keep the 1800's buildings that are still standing in the park. That would be a bad look if they bulldoze them though considering the name of their company...  And at least the property will be used and enjoyed again. The natural spring and large waterfall are worthy attractions in their own right, and I actually thought Arkansas should have bought the place long ago to make it into another state park.

Let's not jump to the conclusion that "christian conservative" group = Alt-Right.  I'd argue that real alt-right supporters and real conservatives don't want to have anything to do with each other.  The grey area is always with the people who are too ignorant to actually know what they are and what their differences are.  I would claim that HFE/SDC is a christian conservative group that understands that and doesn't accept the alt-right.

I don't have a clue about what this groups attentions are.....if they are setting up that extreme of a politically based resort/park then I doubt they are going to be able to grow past their own little niche market.

 

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2018 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: December 11, 2017, 12:53:53 PM »
Found some interesting markings on Valley Road near Flooded Mine.  Thoughts?
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/11/mystery-markers-sdc.html

Hard to guess what is going on....could just be markings for basic utility maintenance.  Or running utilities for new or planned to be moved buildings.

Even at this point with TT....I still think about my fantasy theme/building of this ride by connecting the new ride with the Flooded Mine storyline.  Theming it as a whimsical adventure around the FL inmates making a break for it through the Ozark hills only to fail at the end.  Almost a "o brother, where art thou" and FiTH vibe.  It is also complimentary to the Outlaw Run theme.  It's probably not a good theme to be mass marketed but it could have been fun for SDC fans and keep pressure on the park to keep up FL.   Not sure if any two major rides at any theme park have connected themes/storylines like that and could have been unique anyway.

but yeah....TT is looking great.



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Construction/Rumors / Re: Future SDC Development Speculation (Long-term)
« on: December 07, 2017, 09:19:44 AM »
I thought about that too....no doubt SDC has more season pass attendees by percentage then the big boys do...and a lot of the Saturday hordes of humanity are coming from the local markets with those passes. That being said....SDC does more one-time pass guests than a lot of the other local parks because it is in a tourist trap area.  They also get a large chunk of attendance from folks who only visit Branson a few days every year or two.  So they are kind of in an in between place where they could experiment with price and demand.

Dollywood probably has some of the same issues.....plus they have the resort.  If they do experiment with variable pricing I'm curious where they would try it first.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: Future SDC Development Speculation (Long-term)
« on: December 06, 2017, 10:46:35 AM »
This is a dangerous area. We all know that SDC is so special and successful because of its unique charm. If they continue to chip away at the unique charm to accommodate larger crowds, then they risk the very thing that the crowds are coming to see. It's possible to expand yourself out of business. I'm not saying that SDC is at risk of going out of business, but they do have to take care to maintain what makes the City special.

They could also raise admission prices to help control the crowds.....and/or go to a variable rate pricing like the big boys to capitalize on the high demand days.  Think I've posted on here before about my prediction that that will be coming.  Especially if the crowd levels continue to grow.  SDC to me only feels like the"good old SDC" when I get to go on the slower days. 

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2017 Project Part 2
« on: December 04, 2017, 01:53:38 PM »
Hmm?  Maybe mix the Wassail with a little Fireball?   :o :o

 ;D

Ill JUst take the Fireball please. No need to dilute it  :P :P

lol....the day that SDC starts selling fireball at the park is the day either the traditional SDC dies....or maybe an argument could be made that would actually be a more realistic view of the ozarks....lol

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Thanks for the update/pics Swoosh

WOF looks pretty good....they really went a lot farther than I thought for the event....I'm surprised by the number of shows and overall investment in the decor.  12 days of Christmas is clever and the Snoopy show looks like a lot of fun.

That being said.....only one thrill ride open?  Was that due to weather or will that be normal?  Upcharge to feed the animals?  Ice Skate?  $14 cookies? Is the park entry tickets the same price as the regular season?  Those are all red flags for me.....Guess we will just have to wait and see how the public response to the setup.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2017 Project Part 2
« on: November 29, 2017, 10:13:05 AM »
I know this is a major nitpick and a bit off topic but I found the hot chocolate to be quite disappointing compared to years past. It used to be quite rich and creamy and it was a drink that you definitely got a good value for what you paid for. The two batches I got from two different vendors at Coaster Christmas was basically brown water with little flavor so it seems like they have cheeped out and decided to stretch their ingredients by watering down the batches as they probably think the average person (non regulars) won't notice. One major thing I loved SDC at Christmas was for the quality of their hot chocolate and sadly that was a miss this year. But Christmas in Midtown is impressive and is a must see in person type of thing to appreciate. Oh and on the flip side, the Wassail was as good as always.

I haven't been this year but the hot chocolate I've had has always been pretty good.  As for the Wassail....a recent youtuber reviewed SDC last week and mentioned that the Wassial tasted like hot kool-aid.....which I thought was a pretty good description.  I thought it was like a hot Hawaiian punch and didn't care for it.  Not sure if SDC's would be considered good Wassail or not but one was enough for me.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2017 Project Part 2
« on: November 28, 2017, 10:28:41 AM »
"Good Weather" Saturdays during Christmas seasons have always been packed at night.  Between the shows, parade, food stands, rides....crowds and wait times get ridiculous.  Those few night hours on Saturdays have to be the craziest busy times of the year.  The hordes of humanity that leave the park after the evening parade is insane.  SDC at Christmas is magical, we love to go, but I've had a couple visits where the crowds really overwhelmed the fun..for example 30min wait to get overpriced hot chocolate while fighting for position to see the parade...then 45 min cattle herd walk to a car with tired kiddos isn't fun.  If all possible go on Thursday or Sunday nights...or don't be scare to brave some of the colder (bad weather) nights to enjoy the park and hopefully missed some of the crowds.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2017 Project Part 2
« on: November 28, 2017, 10:12:49 AM »
No more cutting through Midtown as a shortcut during Christmas season.

I'm ok with the Mill focusing on the Bread :)  That stuff is amazing and I was fine with it not getting the foot traffic before as long as it stayed open.  Afternoon and evening was a great time to stop by for a loaf but was always a crap-shoot on if it would be fresh (warm out of the oven) or even available.  Hope they are keeping up with the increase traffic/demand.

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Dollywood Discussion / Re: Quick question about After 3 Next Day Free
« on: November 14, 2017, 01:31:52 PM »
Also a deal Dollywood has that SDC doesn't - buy your 2018 Season pass get 2017 Smokey Mountain Christmas free....

Jay

I noticed that also... :D

I've always wanted SDC to run that promotion.  I would love to take advantage of that right now since I usually only buy season passes every other year.  I'm still debating on buying for next year but that would probably convince me if I could get a Christmas time visit in this year too.

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They are goofy....I get them from music sites all the time looking for fans to vote for favorite songs/bands.  Basically they are click bait to get fans to drive up there site numbers.  Which means the 'contests' are mostly won by whom ever fans are most active at pushing the contest.

btw....I voted for SDC....lol

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