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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2018 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: December 14, 2017, 08:56:10 AM »
Can't help but notice it is not spinning.  I want to learn how that is controlled and if either the riders or operators will be able to start a spin out of the station.

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Other Parks / Re: Dogpatch Update 12/17
« on: December 12, 2017, 09:31:17 AM »
Yeah... I haven't been as involved with Dogpatch as some, but I don't think many in the Dogpatch community are terribly excited about this. On the surface, their intentions sound nice, but the company itself just doesn't feel very professional - to put it lightly. Look up their videos on youtube...

Basically they seem like they want to jump onto the alt-right bandwagon and make dogpatch into a hardcore conservative disneyland. This is actually the revival of a previous venture that had a christian ministry theme-park of sorts in Charlotte which crashed and burned due to dubious non-profit status and a major sex scandal.

I mean I don't want to get political and dog people for being conservative, but these guys are in the deep end and I forsee this venture churning up a lot of muck if they actually get off the ground.

I'm just hoping they keep the 1800's buildings that are still standing in the park. That would be a bad look if they bulldoze them though considering the name of their company...  And at least the property will be used and enjoyed again. The natural spring and large waterfall are worthy attractions in their own right, and I actually thought Arkansas should have bought the place long ago to make it into another state park.

Let's not jump to the conclusion that "christian conservative" group = Alt-Right.  I'd argue that real alt-right supporters and real conservatives don't want to have anything to do with each other.  The grey area is always with the people who are too ignorant to actually know what they are and what their differences are.  I would claim that HFE/SDC is a christian conservative group that understands that and doesn't accept the alt-right.

I don't have a clue about what this groups attentions are.....if they are setting up that extreme of a politically based resort/park then I doubt they are going to be able to grow past their own little niche market.

 

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2018 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: December 11, 2017, 12:53:53 PM »
Found some interesting markings on Valley Road near Flooded Mine.  Thoughts?
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/11/mystery-markers-sdc.html

Hard to guess what is going on....could just be markings for basic utility maintenance.  Or running utilities for new or planned to be moved buildings.

Even at this point with TT....I still think about my fantasy theme/building of this ride by connecting the new ride with the Flooded Mine storyline.  Theming it as a whimsical adventure around the FL inmates making a break for it through the Ozark hills only to fail at the end.  Almost a "o brother, where art thou" and FiTH vibe.  It is also complimentary to the Outlaw Run theme.  It's probably not a good theme to be mass marketed but it could have been fun for SDC fans and keep pressure on the park to keep up FL.   Not sure if any two major rides at any theme park have connected themes/storylines like that and could have been unique anyway.

but yeah....TT is looking great.



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Construction/Rumors / Re: Future SDC Development Speculation (Long-term)
« on: December 07, 2017, 09:19:44 AM »
I thought about that too....no doubt SDC has more season pass attendees by percentage then the big boys do...and a lot of the Saturday hordes of humanity are coming from the local markets with those passes. That being said....SDC does more one-time pass guests than a lot of the other local parks because it is in a tourist trap area.  They also get a large chunk of attendance from folks who only visit Branson a few days every year or two.  So they are kind of in an in between place where they could experiment with price and demand.

Dollywood probably has some of the same issues.....plus they have the resort.  If they do experiment with variable pricing I'm curious where they would try it first.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: Future SDC Development Speculation (Long-term)
« on: December 06, 2017, 10:46:35 AM »
This is a dangerous area. We all know that SDC is so special and successful because of its unique charm. If they continue to chip away at the unique charm to accommodate larger crowds, then they risk the very thing that the crowds are coming to see. It's possible to expand yourself out of business. I'm not saying that SDC is at risk of going out of business, but they do have to take care to maintain what makes the City special.

They could also raise admission prices to help control the crowds.....and/or go to a variable rate pricing like the big boys to capitalize on the high demand days.  Think I've posted on here before about my prediction that that will be coming.  Especially if the crowd levels continue to grow.  SDC to me only feels like the"good old SDC" when I get to go on the slower days. 

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2017 Project Part 2
« on: December 04, 2017, 01:53:38 PM »
Hmm?  Maybe mix the Wassail with a little Fireball?   :o :o

 ;D

Ill JUst take the Fireball please. No need to dilute it  :P :P

lol....the day that SDC starts selling fireball at the park is the day either the traditional SDC dies....or maybe an argument could be made that would actually be a more realistic view of the ozarks....lol

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Thanks for the update/pics Swoosh

WOF looks pretty good....they really went a lot farther than I thought for the event....I'm surprised by the number of shows and overall investment in the decor.  12 days of Christmas is clever and the Snoopy show looks like a lot of fun.

That being said.....only one thrill ride open?  Was that due to weather or will that be normal?  Upcharge to feed the animals?  Ice Skate?  $14 cookies? Is the park entry tickets the same price as the regular season?  Those are all red flags for me.....Guess we will just have to wait and see how the public response to the setup.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2017 Project Part 2
« on: November 29, 2017, 10:13:05 AM »
I know this is a major nitpick and a bit off topic but I found the hot chocolate to be quite disappointing compared to years past. It used to be quite rich and creamy and it was a drink that you definitely got a good value for what you paid for. The two batches I got from two different vendors at Coaster Christmas was basically brown water with little flavor so it seems like they have cheeped out and decided to stretch their ingredients by watering down the batches as they probably think the average person (non regulars) won't notice. One major thing I loved SDC at Christmas was for the quality of their hot chocolate and sadly that was a miss this year. But Christmas in Midtown is impressive and is a must see in person type of thing to appreciate. Oh and on the flip side, the Wassail was as good as always.

I haven't been this year but the hot chocolate I've had has always been pretty good.  As for the Wassail....a recent youtuber reviewed SDC last week and mentioned that the Wassial tasted like hot kool-aid.....which I thought was a pretty good description.  I thought it was like a hot Hawaiian punch and didn't care for it.  Not sure if SDC's would be considered good Wassail or not but one was enough for me.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2017 Project Part 2
« on: November 28, 2017, 10:28:41 AM »
"Good Weather" Saturdays during Christmas seasons have always been packed at night.  Between the shows, parade, food stands, rides....crowds and wait times get ridiculous.  Those few night hours on Saturdays have to be the craziest busy times of the year.  The hordes of humanity that leave the park after the evening parade is insane.  SDC at Christmas is magical, we love to go, but I've had a couple visits where the crowds really overwhelmed the fun..for example 30min wait to get overpriced hot chocolate while fighting for position to see the parade...then 45 min cattle herd walk to a car with tired kiddos isn't fun.  If all possible go on Thursday or Sunday nights...or don't be scare to brave some of the colder (bad weather) nights to enjoy the park and hopefully missed some of the crowds.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2017 Project Part 2
« on: November 28, 2017, 10:12:49 AM »
No more cutting through Midtown as a shortcut during Christmas season.

I'm ok with the Mill focusing on the Bread :)  That stuff is amazing and I was fine with it not getting the foot traffic before as long as it stayed open.  Afternoon and evening was a great time to stop by for a loaf but was always a crap-shoot on if it would be fresh (warm out of the oven) or even available.  Hope they are keeping up with the increase traffic/demand.

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Dollywood Discussion / Re: Quick question about After 3 Next Day Free
« on: November 14, 2017, 01:31:52 PM »
Also a deal Dollywood has that SDC doesn't - buy your 2018 Season pass get 2017 Smokey Mountain Christmas free....

Jay

I noticed that also... :D

I've always wanted SDC to run that promotion.  I would love to take advantage of that right now since I usually only buy season passes every other year.  I'm still debating on buying for next year but that would probably convince me if I could get a Christmas time visit in this year too.

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They are goofy....I get them from music sites all the time looking for fans to vote for favorite songs/bands.  Basically they are click bait to get fans to drive up there site numbers.  Which means the 'contests' are mostly won by whom ever fans are most active at pushing the contest.

btw....I voted for SDC....lol

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2018 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: November 13, 2017, 06:23:30 PM »
Thanks for the continued updates!!!  Appreciate everyone sharing.  TT really is a pretty amazing engineering feat.  Can't wait for the station to get theme'd out and to see the cars.

Coaster Studios posted a clip from the tour on YouTube.  They also just posted a couple of amazing interview/tour clips from the RMC shop in Idaho that is a must watch for coaster nerds.


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It bet an attraction exactly like that would do huge business in Branson....even at a high price point $89-$99 a tix to do it all.  Add a wave pool and maybe a secondary kid area and it easily becomes the best water park in town by a long shot.  Even if just built as is like in Mexico it would be a perfect secondary weekend attraction to SDC.

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Well....we completed our long-anticipated family cruise last week.  We had a blast in the western Caribbean even with some poor weather (at least it wasn't hurricanes).

I won't bore you with a full trip report but did want to call it to this amusement park group an amazing water park that we got to visit at Costa Maya Mexico called Lost Maya Kingdom Adventure Park   https://maya-park.com/

Easily the most thrilling and most fun water park I've ever experienced.  Place is amazing....great themes and designs and the rides don't hold anything back.

The park is located right next to the cruise ship port and is within 5 minute tram ride from the dock.  It features a 24 story Maya Pyramid as a centerpiece that can been seen through the park and from the cruise ships at the dock.  Looks like both the park and the dock/shops where developed specifically the cater to the cruise ship visitors.   The park is basically a combination Zipline center and water park and you can but tixs for each one or both.  It really is built in the middle of a jungle.  The paths around the park are raised and create an amazing atmosphere.

On the day we went there where only two ships in town and rain in the forecast all day so it was a relatively slow day and it felt like we had most of the park to ourselves!!!...maybe just a few hundred people there all morning.  After finding very reasonably priced lockers within the pyramid 'ruins' the family jumped in a very long and amazingly themed lazy river that ran around and through the pyramid.  River even had a long section full of dry ice fog that created a 'white out' effect....very cool and creepy. 

My oldest two and I then headed back to the pyramid and suited up to do the ziplines.  They had 3 courses of lines including a zip roller coaster which we tried first.  All the courses started out of different levels in the pyramid.  The pyramid has two ELEVATORS!!!! you take to get to the start points.  The coaster was a slow curvy helix filled descent which ended with a splash down in a pool.  It was actually probably the scariest zip course because I really got nervous making those turns just hanging from a rope.   The other two courses had multiple ziplines onto various towers set around the park.  The longer of the courses took about 20mins to complete and had 8-10 very high and long rides.  The 'medium' one had 3-4 rides and a couple of rope bridges between the towers.  All of them had a final splash down ride to end them.

Park had a huge kids play structure that my two youngest play at for hours.  3-4 slides on the structure and a nearby 'relax pool' that the played in too.  With some rain coming in...my oldest and I headed back to the pyramid structure to do the water slides.  Wow...the most intense slide structures I've even been on.  There are around a dozen slides through out the pyramid.  Levels 12, 18, and 24.  Did I mention the Elevator!!!  You can take the stairs or the elevator which has the slides listed out by level.  The red tube slide we started with was the fastest I've ever been on....it whipped you through the tube and guaranteed a huge wipeout at the end.  So much fun.  The mat racers off of level 18 where intense....you slide on your belly face first into complete darkness....twist around not seeing what is coming...then burst out into daylight in time to dive down some more....crazy.  After sampling about half the slides a few times it started to thunderstorm....not that the workers seemed to care.  We got a few more rides in before the lightning really started to worry me and the wife was ready to go.  Wish the weather was better...we really packed in a lot of action in just a few hours....would have been great to enjoy the attractions longer.

Few other notes:
Park was completely feed by ocean water - all pool and slides where salt water - first for me
All rides where equipped with RFID scanners for wrist bands (though they didn't give us any)  Park had cameras setup everywhere taking pic and had scanners to try to identify who was there.  During our exit through the gift shop process - they had to manually find our pics to try to sell
Did I mention the elevators - lol - sure beats hitting the stairs for every ride - really cool setup - had the lockers and zipline equipment at the base of the pyramid - zip liners could just jump on an elevator after getting geared up and pick a course to start - then they ended back by the pyramid where they rechecked your gear and you could just jump on the elevator to start another course - water slider used the same elevators
Also had an upcharge freefall attraction within the center of the pyramid.  20 story drop with 5 seconds of freefall was advertised....you just walk off a plank-like overhang in the center of the pyramid attached to a cord on your back (harness) that would activate to catch you on the way down.

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