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Title: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 16, 2019, 05:29:27 PM
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Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 16, 2019, 05:32:23 PM
We are still a little far out from 2021, but the whispers are getting louder that FITH will be torn out at the end of the 2020 season and will be completely demolished to make way for a brand new version.  Of course things change over time but definitely something to keep an eye and ear on
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 16, 2019, 06:56:59 PM
The rumors sure have been flying lately. But I guess it makes sense. We have always said it was a matter of time, and with the way things have been allowed to slowly degrade over time, it had to give way eventually. Now that they have popped the cork on ride replacements with Lost River, it makes sense to knock the others out one at a time.

FITH will be hard to see go. Even with a "new" version, we all know it won't be the same in spirit. Goodbye baldknobbers.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on January 16, 2019, 07:41:56 PM
FITH will be hard to see go. Even with a "new" version, we all know it won't be the same in spirit. Goodbye baldknobbers.

Thats what I fear too. It will be a watered down shell of its former self.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 16, 2019, 09:39:54 PM
FITH will be hard to see go. Even with a "new" version, we all know it won't be the same in spirit. Goodbye baldknobbers.

Thats what I fear too. It will be a watered down shell of its former self.

Blazing Fury does just fine without the Baldknobbers and it’s far from being considered watered down. 
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: DollarCityBoy on January 17, 2019, 09:32:23 AM
Agree, Blazing Fury isn't watered down at all...because...wait for it......


....it has no water.

Sorry, couldn't help myself on that one.  :P
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: chittlins on January 17, 2019, 12:29:13 PM
We are still a little far out from 2021, but the whispers are getting louder that FITH will be torn out at the end of the 2020 season and will be completely demolished to make way for a brand new version.  Of course things change over time but definitely something to keep an eye and ear on

As long as it keeps the core concept and addea a drop track element at the burning bridge followered by a launch, should be a winner
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 17, 2019, 01:25:46 PM
FITH will be hard to see go. Even with a "new" version, we all know it won't be the same in spirit. Goodbye baldknobbers.

Thats what I fear too. It will be a watered down shell of its former self.

Blazing Fury does just fine without the Baldknobbers and it’s far from being considered watered down.

Blazing Fury has it's own theme... which come to think of it I don't even know what it was about other than a bunch of stuff on fire. FITH tells the story of how Marmaros was terrorized by Baldknobbers. It's part of the original fabric of SDC - telling authentic ozarkan stories in fun and inventive ways. 

I don't doubt their ability to build a cool new indoor coaster with some folksy theming, but we aren't going to see anything like FITH ever again.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: JJH on January 17, 2019, 01:48:40 PM
It would be interesting if SDC would commit to making the best dark ride ever.  They have made "the best" commitment with the last few roller coasters.  Unfortunately, I'm not sure if SDC would even  be interested in keeping the Baldknobbers.  I would love it, but combining hooded vigilante characters burning a town with family fun is a bit tough in the 21st century. 
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Obviousdramatic on January 17, 2019, 02:08:43 PM
Unpopular Opinion Time!   I actually am ok with them doing something with FitH. When I rode it last, it was rough. Nor only that, they zipped through quickly and I didn't feel I was able to actually see the scenes. I get why they zipped thorough.

Yes, seeing another piece of SDC history go is a huge bummer. But at this point it's moot. So much of "my" SDC isn't there. It is someone else's big memory in the making. Its still fun to visit.

 It will be something to see if they did replace it. Are indoor dark rides still a thing? I would hope they kept the baldknobber theme.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: runner1960 on January 17, 2019, 02:23:15 PM
I am for a total tear out and rebuild. If proper preventive maintenance had been practiced it would have been possible to salvage the building but the PTB started the process when they shortened the ride years ago. My hope is that they create a awesome dark ride experience in line with Seven Dwarfs at MK. With the new technology a amazing ride experience could be created. I could care less if it has any drops. Just tell a good story. Hopefully the local history and Baldknobber theme is kept.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on January 17, 2019, 06:11:29 PM
Dont overlook the good chance that with the all New Water Ride/attraction....  The American Plunge will probably be in line very soon for replacement...
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on January 17, 2019, 06:20:43 PM
More and more of the things that made it a special place are being torn out and replaced and soon it will be just another theme park
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: johnburton on January 17, 2019, 07:06:43 PM
When did they shorten it? What changed?
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 17, 2019, 07:23:49 PM
Dont overlook the good chance that with the all New Water Ride/attraction....  The American Plunge will probably be in line very soon for replacement...

Pretty confident that the order (for now) will be FITH next followed by FM. 
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: pintrader on January 17, 2019, 07:55:34 PM
When did they shorten it? What changed?

Believe it was shortened in 1982.   The first dip (collapsing bridge) goes around to the left, and heads toward the train today.   Well before they changed it at the bottom of the first dip you would head to the right and thru a tunnel.   You would then read a sign that said "Danger track out ahead" and the track looked like it was mangled and going out over the cliff to the left.  As you came up upon the mangled track it would jerk a little toward it like you were going to follow the track over the cliff.   Then it would jerk back to the right at the last second (sparing your life) and continue down where it would hook up to the track just before the train and second dip today.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: legoerosion on January 17, 2019, 09:17:21 PM
I don't think SDC would change that much if they completely redo the ride from the ground up. I think they know that it's so beloved by the GP and that they wouldn't remove the Baldknobbers from the ride.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 17, 2019, 10:12:11 PM
I don't think SDC would change that much if they completely redo the ride from the ground up. I think they know that it's so beloved by the GP and that they wouldn't remove the Baldknobbers from the ride.

In this PC driven world, there’s not a chance they return. People already refer to them as Klan members.  I’m honestly surprised they are still present in the current ride. 
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mg on January 18, 2019, 07:34:35 AM
I hope that they keep the minimum height at 36” on the new version. Our son has been riding it since he was 2. It’s also the only 36” height coaster/bigger ride that is reliably open in cooler/wet weather.
However, I’m guessing that it will go up to at least 40” if it’s more of a true indoor coaster.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Pudgy Jones on January 18, 2019, 09:38:45 AM
I hope they keep the Baldknobbers. It is the reason for the ride in the first place. I could be completely wrong, but I have to believe that there are enough level-headed people in decision-making roles at SDC to understand the value of keeping the current theme. It is such an iconic part of SDC and the SDC story.

I also hope they keep the artwork in the queue area. Those paintings are priceless as far as I'm concerned. And they HAVE to keep the Red Flanders gag!

While a lot of things have changed over the years, SDC does have a track record of maintaining some of its most iconic symbols. Most people don't realize that the Wilderness Church was completely rebuilt with new logs several years ago. They did it so seamlessly and accurately that people don't even notice. While there's a big difference between a log church and a ride, someone in the PTB recognizes the value of the City's most treasured icons. Those things are what gives SDC a soul that other theme parks don't have.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Gilligan on January 18, 2019, 02:52:07 PM
We can only hope those level headed people are still employees.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 18, 2019, 06:42:47 PM
This is absolutely based on nothing - but what if new FITH was placed over by FL?
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: biscuitcreek on January 19, 2019, 12:22:13 PM
This is absolutely based on nothing - but what if new FITH was placed over by FL?

The Fire in the Hole theme relates to FL...
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Preachin_Bill on January 19, 2019, 12:30:24 PM
We can only hope those level headed people are still employees.
Good point, sure hope so.

They had better keep the Baldknobbers theme and the art from the que.
If they get rid of it, may as well not even have a Fire in the Hole or even an SDC for that matter.

Its turning out just like places like towns in Montana...people come in because of how great it is, then go anout trying as hard as they can to change it to be just like where they came from, in their case the cities of california, and in SDCs case other generic theme parks.

Hopefully this is all just a rumor, but if they do tear it out, it better be done right and with original theme, etc.
Just think about those old buildings, firemans audio outside, town and creek props...theyre about to be gone forever. Nothing lasts forever but its still sad.
If youre doin this PTB, do it right by the history of the ride and park.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: HumphreyHawk on January 19, 2019, 01:18:20 PM
This is absolutely based on nothing - but what if new FITH was placed over by FL?

Thats actually a great idea....build on the waterboggen land or behind the current restrooms in the back.  If FiTH's building has to go....why not?

Freeing up it's current location opens up a lot of possiblities on the side of the park too.  They could close the path back to Wilsons farm and open a new one through the FiTH area (bridge or tunnel over the RR track?).  Widen the path around the saloon and back to PK and the OH....plus have room for shops and/or some small flats.  Could really theme up the area into a more comprehensive western town?
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Duelist on January 19, 2019, 02:33:16 PM
Then what should replace the old FITH building?  Wow Swoosh you can get a thread going quicker than fire moving through a quaint 1880s Ozark Village  :)
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 19, 2019, 03:14:28 PM
Then what should replace the old FITH building?  Wow Swoosh you can get a thread going quicker than fire moving through a quaint 1880s Ozark Village  :)

I would personally like them build a new lobby area for the Opera House on the East side of OH.  Then you could have people wait for the shows there.  Once “capacity” for the Theatre is met they close the doors to that waiting lobby.  You could have restrooms and a small concession stand in there too. 

As far as where FITH is currently, I’d like to move Lumbercamp over there (the concept not necessarily the theme).  Then you can remove Lumbercsmp and repurpose that area maybe even a new American Plunge
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: History Buff on January 19, 2019, 04:54:09 PM
This is absolutely based on nothing - but what if new FITH was placed over by FL?

The Fire in the Hole theme relates to FL...

Fires happen away from the fire station, so I'd rather keep it where it is.  They could, however, put a fireboat, in the lake to use as a shuttle from one side to the other.  The audio on the boat could be firefighters headed to Marmaros to fight the fire.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Gilligan on January 19, 2019, 05:54:30 PM
If any of the theming from Fire In the Hole gets thrown away (ever!), I'll be dumpster diving after dark for it!!  ;D
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 19, 2019, 07:39:43 PM
This is absolutely based on nothing - but what if new FITH was placed over by FL?

The Fire in the Hole theme relates to FL...

Fires happen away from the fire station, so I'd rather keep it where it is.  They could, however, put a fireboat, in the lake to use as a shuttle from one side to the other.  The audio on the boat could be firefighters headed to Marmaros to fight the fire.

FITH is Fire Station 2.  So it’s not technically away from the fire station.  ???
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: History Buff on January 19, 2019, 09:13:54 PM
This is absolutely based on nothing - but what if new FITH was placed over by FL?

The Fire in the Hole theme relates to FL...

Fires happen away from the fire station, so I'd rather keep it where it is.  They could, however, put a fireboat, in the lake to use as a shuttle from one side to the other.  The audio on the boat could be firefighters headed to Marmaros to fight the fire.

FITH is Fire Station 2.  So it’s not technically away from the fire station.  ???

I suppose that's true, but it wouldn't have to be if it were rebuilt.  The problem could be that the department can't get to the fire in time.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 19, 2019, 11:14:01 PM
I’m visualizing a combo of Fire Chaser Express, FITH and Verbolten for the new FITH
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Joy on January 20, 2019, 06:21:20 PM
I’m visualizing a combo of Fire Chaser Express, FITH and Verbolten for the new FITH

YES PLEASE. I finally got to go to DW on Halloween last year and rode Firechaser twice.... IT IS SO FUN! I would be VERY happy to have a version of that themed for a new FITH
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: cowboy on January 22, 2019, 02:07:21 PM
I may be in the minority, but I wouldn't wanted it changed significantly. It's a great ride and one that people talk about no matter their age. If I was a power to be, it would still be a rebuild but these are the things I would do:

1: Update the building and bring it into code (if it's out of code now).
2. Expand the building to include an indoor queue section. It's one of the only rides that can operate in any weather, but you have to stand out in the weather to get to the ride.
3. Update the ride system so you can have longer trains and increase the capacity.
4. Keep the main story and layout, but update all the effects and scenery.
5. At the burning bridge, update with a track drop.
6. Return the broken bridge effect, but add a decent drop (precursor to finale).
7. Update the train with a realistic train effect (not just a light).
8. Update the final drop to include a slightly longer coaster section.

Just keep it mainly a dark ride with some coaster sections, not just another indoor roller coaster in the dark. Also if you wanted a backwards section, instead of dropping under the train, maybe you could come to a stop right before hitting the train, then shoot backwards....

Jay
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: DollarCityBoy on January 22, 2019, 02:21:13 PM
Just keep it mainly a dark ride with some coaster sections, not just another indoor roller coaster in the dark.

I agree Cowboy.
FITH is NOT an indoor roller coaster...it is a DARK RIDE with coaster elements. I truly hope that when it gets rebuilt it will not be an indoor roller coaster.

To the PTB: PLEASE DO FITH JUSTICE AND DO NOT RIP IT OF ITS SOUL!
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: runner1960 on January 22, 2019, 02:29:15 PM
Just keep it mainly a dark ride with some coaster sections, not just another indoor roller coaster in the dark.

I agree Cowboy.
FITH is NOT an indoor roller coaster...it is a DARK RIDE with coaster elements. I truly hope that when it gets rebuilt it will not be an indoor roller coaster.

To the PTB: PLEASE DO FITH JUSTICE AND DO NOT RIP IT OF ITS SOUL!

I totally agree. Just to drop in another outdoor coaster and give it the  FITH name would be a injustice. Keep it a dark ride totally using modern technology.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: History Buff on January 22, 2019, 03:35:55 PM
Just keep it mainly a dark ride with some coaster sections, not just another indoor roller coaster in the dark.

I agree Cowboy.
FITH is NOT an indoor roller coaster...it is a DARK RIDE with coaster elements. I truly hope that when it gets rebuilt it will not be an indoor roller coaster.

To the PTB: PLEASE DO FITH JUSTICE AND DO NOT RIP IT OF ITS SOUL!

I totally agree. Just to drop in another outdoor coaster and give it the  FITH name would be a injustice. Keep it a dark ride totally using modern technology.

This!
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: chittlins on January 23, 2019, 08:19:48 AM
Just keep it mainly a dark ride with some coaster sections, not just another indoor roller coaster in the dark.

I agree Cowboy.
FITH is NOT an indoor roller coaster...it is a DARK RIDE with coaster elements. I truly hope that when it gets rebuilt it will not be an indoor roller coaster.

To the PTB: PLEASE DO FITH JUSTICE AND DO NOT RIP IT OF ITS SOUL!

I totally agree. Just to drop in another outdoor coaster and give it the  FITH name would be a injustice. Keep it a dark ride totally using modern technology.

This!

No VR and I really don't want to see 3D glasses
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: kbosch1 on January 23, 2019, 08:20:26 AM
Just keep it mainly a dark ride with some coaster sections, not just another indoor roller coaster in the dark.

I agree Cowboy.
FITH is NOT an indoor roller coaster...it is a DARK RIDE with coaster elements. I truly hope that when it gets rebuilt it will not be an indoor roller coaster.

Nailed it!

To the PTB: PLEASE DO FITH JUSTICE AND DO NOT RIP IT OF ITS SOUL!

I totally agree. Just to drop in another outdoor coaster and give it the  FITH name would be a injustice. Keep it a dark ride totally using modern technology.

This!
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on January 23, 2019, 08:42:01 AM
Just keep it mainly a dark ride with some coaster sections, not just another indoor roller coaster in the dark.

I agree Cowboy.
FITH is NOT an indoor roller coaster...it is a DARK RIDE with coaster elements. I truly hope that when it gets rebuilt it will not be an indoor roller coaster.

To the PTB: PLEASE DO FITH JUSTICE AND DO NOT RIP IT OF ITS SOUL!

I totally agree. Just to drop in another outdoor coaster and give it the  FITH name would be a injustice. Keep it a dark ride totally using modern technology.

This!

No VR and I really don't want to see 3D glasses

you guys are getting all worked up a project that hasnt even been announced yet.. :) 
But I am sure thay whatever they do, whenever they do it..
 
there wont be any 3D glasses invloled!!  LOL
they wont build a new coaster and name it FITH.
Will it be a Dark ride?  Maybe..

But it wont happen for what i would guess ninmum3-5 years..   lets finish the new ride first, then finish the boardwalk area,  and Riverfront Theatre

I think the AP will be the next ride we lose..   
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 23, 2019, 02:58:17 PM
^actual time table is 2 years before its demise.  AP isn’t scheduled to go anywhere anytime soon

Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 23, 2019, 06:58:12 PM
Personally I'd like a dark ride and a new coaster with indoor elements seperately. If we get something along the lines of Verbolten/Firechaser, that's not really a FITH replacement per-se, though it would be cool and a good addition.

The PTB are aware of the sentiment that FITH holds. The question is where they see ROI, and as we know ROI seems to come from doing something extravagant and marketable... So I'm not holding out hope that we will see anything like FITH return when it inevitably goes. It will be the end of one era and the beginning of another.

Then again, they could surprise us with an awesome Sally dark ride that tells the story of Marmaros in a fun and highly thematic way. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sirwillow on January 24, 2019, 12:29:08 PM
My one warning here is don't everyone jump all over this rumor too quickly.  All it is at this point is a rumor, with no verification of it.  For now I'm putting this in the same place as their scrapping Echo Hollow and building a completely new amphitheater over near the homestead, and scrapping the whole entrance area and building a new one. 

yes, we would all like something done with FiTH, for it to be refurbished/ restored, just like Flooded Mine.  But that doesn't mean that it's in the radar of the park at the moment.

Fine to dream a bit, but some seem to be taking this like it's going to happen and in the works, and that isn't necessarily so.  They may be looking at something, may be brainstorming and tossing around ideas, or they may not care in the least, which seems to have been much of pattern with it the last few years.  :-)
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on April 21, 2019, 02:24:11 AM
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Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on April 21, 2019, 07:54:36 AM
Starting to hear a lot more rumblings that the FITH rumor might actually have some traction.  Now there are about 5 different rumors out there right now, but the loudest is that current FITH will be open during 2020 season while new FITH is being built in FL for s 2021 opening.  Sounded like it would go in the Shad parking lot behind current FL. 

Again RUMOR but multiple sources this time so who knows.  We’ll keep an ear out for more. 
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mhguy77 on April 21, 2019, 10:19:51 AM
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Starting to hear a lot more rumblings that the FITH rumor might actually have some traction.  Now there are about 5 different rumors out there right now, but the loudest is that current FITH will be open during 2020 season while new FITH is being built in FL for s 2021 opening.  Sounded like it would go in the Shad parking lot behind current FL. 

Again RUMOR but multiple sources this time so who knows.  We’ll keep an ear out for more.

Sad thought that SDC scraps the original FITH while Dollywood keeps and refurbishes theirs?  Very sad.
Knotts and other parks have reinvested in the older dark rides but SDC seems as if they want to find a reason to eliminate theirs. 
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: cowboy on April 21, 2019, 11:58:09 AM
If Dollywood can operate both FireChaser Express and Blazing Fury.....why can't SDC do the same with a new coaster in FL and a refurbishment of FITH.

The new coaster in FL could have some of the more modern elements we've discussed and then FITH could just be fixed up as is. Of course, that is if FITH is capable of remaining and not too far gone.....

Jay
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on April 21, 2019, 01:53:02 PM
Pretty sure the building is too far gone to be saved. 
You have to remember that Blazing Fury is much younger than FITH
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on April 21, 2019, 03:40:27 PM
Pretty sure the building is too far gone to be saved. 
You have to remember that Blazing Fury is much younger than FITH

The building is in bad shape. you can see daylight through the walls in several places.  You know it has been patched "alot" through the years.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mhguy77 on April 21, 2019, 03:48:05 PM
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Pretty sure the building is too far gone to be saved. 
You have to remember that Blazing Fury is much younger than FITH

6 years should not make the difference with a cinder block structure on a slab.    I dont not believe that SDC is as interested in saving its past as we are.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: chittlins on April 21, 2019, 04:52:39 PM
Starting to hear a lot more rumblings that the FITH rumor might actually have some traction.  Now there are about 5 different rumors out there right now, but the loudest is that current FITH will be open during 2020 season while new FITH is being built in FL for s 2021 opening.  Sounded like it would go in the Shad parking lot behind current FL. 

Again RUMOR but multiple sources this time so who knows.  We’ll keep an ear out for more.

That would properly place with like themed attractions. We know know they don't mind going with a new version of a similar ride with the new raft ride.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on April 21, 2019, 04:57:50 PM
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Pretty sure the building is too far gone to be saved. 
You have to remember that Blazing Fury is much younger than FITH

6 years should not make the difference with a cinder block structure on a slab.    I dont not believe that SDC is as interested in saving its past as we are.

The cinder block outer walls are just one aspect of the building.  Sometimes you have to cut your losses and start new.  While I am sad that the original is rumored to go, I’m also realistic in admitting it hasn’t been the FITH from my childhood in at least a decade or more.  The new version will more than likely have much newer technology and will probably have more intricate scenes instead of repurposed clothing store mannequins.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: History Buff on April 21, 2019, 08:08:32 PM
OK, but something would have to go in the old location if FitH is relocated.  Another dark ride in a new building?  Something along the lines of one of the concepts presented in the recent DW survey?
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on April 21, 2019, 08:47:49 PM
OK, but something would have to go in the old location if FitH is relocated.  Another dark ride in a new building?  Something along the lines of one of the concepts presented in the recent DW survey?

Any kind of ride could go into the area. 

they could also build a new Building for shows and events..   Maybe something to replace Riverfront when it comes out..
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on April 21, 2019, 09:17:55 PM
OK, but something would have to go in the old location if FitH is relocated.  Another dark ride in a new building?  Something along the lines of one of the concepts presented in the recent DW survey?

Well... there’s been rumblings about that too, and honestly a lot of you won’t like that either, so let’s just focus on one thing at a time.  No need to work yourselves up until we see some real movement. 

With that being said, many on here didn’t believe they’d rip out LR even though we talked about that possibility being pretty strong about two years before that project started.   So, who knows...
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on April 21, 2019, 09:30:27 PM
With all the talk with the FITH demo and possible remake, while I still cringe at the idea of losing this classic as I have known it, it would be cool if they did do something like this for the final drop on the remake that yells Fiiiiiiirrrrre In Theeee Hoooole! along with other pyrotechnic effects thru the ride. https://youtu.be/89flDfgcQr8?t=140
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: runner1960 on August 01, 2019, 04:49:25 PM
Yes, Resurrecting a almost dead thread. But just curious if there has been any more rumors about the relocation/replacement of FITH in 2021?  I have not found anything. Everything seems to be focused on the new water ride to replace LROTO.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on August 01, 2019, 10:16:44 PM
Nothing concrete.  2022 is supposedly a new attraction (not a replacement) then 23 or 24 is FITH replacement.  I guess we’ll see. Something needs to be done soon
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: ThemeParkFan on August 01, 2019, 11:41:05 PM
I finally got to ride FITH today and based on that, I'd say they need to accelerate their timetable. The condition of the ride was truly deplorable, and felt like a marked comedown even from last season. Still a lot of missing audio, new train whistle and "FITH!" for some reason (why?), and a ton of visible deterioration.

If you'd have told me ten years ago that Dollywood would put some TLC into Blazing Fury and SDC had let FITH rot, I would have never believed you or thought you'd gotten the parks confused somehow. I just don't understand the thought/rationale behind allowing the ride to even get to this point, what was once and I had thought to be still a signature ride.

I would have hoped for a Knott's style refurb, but alas, it seems like that's unlikely. Hopefully they'll do a fantastic reimagined version, but right now I have my doubts. And until this visit I hadn't really ever doubted the park before.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on August 02, 2019, 01:40:32 AM
-There's a bad jolt on Thunderation in the tunnel after the helix. It's very pronounced and painful now.

^Off the wall curiosity to everyone here, regarding your comment about ThuNderaTion in the other thread, how would people feel if that was the next thing to be on the chopping block? While it is not a true SDC classic like FITH or FM it is still a fan favorite and a great mid-level non-inverting coaster that is family friendly and it was the parks first true big rollercoaster. It is also reviewed by many coaster enthusiasts as the one of the best mine train coasters of its kind in the world. I haven't considered it but with Arrow being gone the way of the dinosaurs and S&S being bought out, (who themselves bought Arrow's assets) it makes me wonder how much longer we will have it with us. Spoke to some ride attendants and they were concerned about its future as they apparently have to custom fabricate parts for the ride nowadays.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on August 02, 2019, 09:28:13 AM
I finally got to ride FITH today and based on that, I'd say they need to accelerate their timetable. The condition of the ride was truly deplorable, and felt like a marked comedown even from last season. Still a lot of missing audio, new train whistle and "FITH!" for some reason (why?), and a ton of visible deterioration.

Lol, what? There are a couple things deteriorating on FITH, but mainly on the outside building. The ride is about the same as ever. Some of the audio comes and goes with the seasons. Some years they blast the soundtrack, other years they have had cricket sounds or other music. This year I thought I heard the theme song in one of the tunnels, but not as pronounced as it used to be. The train sound is indeed new - not sure what happened to the old one. As for the "FITH!", that is a signature part of the ride! That's the only audio I get upset about if it's missing.

I feel like sometimes people forget that FITH is an old ride, and it hasn't changed that much. What people think is "falling apart" was normal back when it was new. The scenes have always been campy, the track has always been bumpy, and it's always going to be musty inside. The real problem with the ride is that they are maintaining the building itself. There's a huge hole near the start of the ride that has been growing for the past several seasons. I'm sure when the lights are on you can see all the water damage...

sdcfan88, there's no way Thunderation goes on the chopping block anytime soon considering FM and FITH are apparently on the chopping block. I'm not sure what special parts they are fabricating, since there are plenty of mine trains left around and S&S still makes all the parts for Arrow. They do need to fix the bump in the tunnel for sure though.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on August 02, 2019, 10:17:37 AM
-There's a bad jolt on Thunderation in the tunnel after the helix. It's very pronounced and painful now.

^Off the wall curiosity to everyone here, regarding your comment about ThuNderaTion in the other thread, how would people feel if that was the next thing to be on the chopping block? While it is not a true SDC classic like FITH or FM it is still a fan favorite and a great mid-level non-inverting coaster that is family friendly and it was the parks first true big rollercoaster. It is also reviewed by many coaster enthusiasts as the one of the best mine train coasters of its kind in the world. I haven't considered it but with Arrow being gone the way of the dinosaurs and S&S being bought out, (who themselves bought Arrow's assets) it makes me wonder how much longer we will have it with us. Spoke to some ride attendants and they were concerned about its future as they apparently have to custom fabricate parts for the ride nowadays.

If they wanted to, they could have Chance/Morgan do replacement track pieces as they have the same gauge
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: ThemeParkFan on August 03, 2019, 11:40:48 PM
Lol, what? There are a couple things deteriorating on FITH, but mainly on the outside building. The ride is about the same as ever. Some of the audio comes and goes with the seasons. Some years they blast the soundtrack, other years they have had cricket sounds or other music.
I feel like sometimes people forget that FITH is an old ride, and it hasn't changed that much. What people think is "falling apart" was normal back when it was new. The scenes have always been campy, the track has always been bumpy, and it's always going to be musty inside. The real problem with the ride is that they are maintaining the building itself. There's a huge hole near the start of the ride that has been growing for the past several seasons. I'm sure when the lights are on you can see all the water damage...

I'm by no means an expert, but these are some things that I noticed (perceived?) during my rides:
-Lack of ambient music (particularly the second scene)
-Transfer track area between 1st and 2nd scene seemed larger and is covered by a curtain that I do not remember being as large or as obvious as it is now.
-Water shooting over riders not working (this one is understandable given the condition of the building IMO)
-Lack of bridge-out sound effect
-replacement of original fire effects with smaller, weaker-looking (IMO) flames

Along with the already noted deterioration of the building.

Some of those might be subjective, or might lack the nuance of people able to go several times a year, but my point is this: I've been riding FITH on and off for 14 years. I perceive a decline, and I don't think I'm the only one feeling that way. Yes, the building's in terrible condition, but I wouldn't say that's the only place a decline is happening. I don't think this is simply "well, the ride's just old" anymore. Just my two cents.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on August 03, 2019, 11:53:36 PM
People always complain about things not working, but no one seems to mention upgrades. Like the lighting.  Yeah, it’s all been redone for this season. 
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on August 04, 2019, 07:37:24 PM
I am really not sure what you mean.  I rode it several times this weekend and they have all of the sounds and effects working.  The train whistle sounds like a new recording as does fire in the hole at the end. I assumed the originals were too far gone and they had to redo them.

I finally got to ride FITH today and based on that, I'd say they need to accelerate their timetable. The condition of the ride was truly deplorable, and felt like a marked comedown even from last season. Still a lot of missing audio, new train whistle and "FITH!" for some reason (why?), and a ton of visible deterioration.

If you'd have told me ten years ago that Dollywood would put some TLC into Blazing Fury and SDC had let FITH rot, I would have never believed you or thought you'd gotten the parks confused somehow. I just don't understand the thought/rationale behind allowing the ride to even get to this point, what was once and I had thought to be still a signature ride.

I would have hoped for a Knott's style refurb, but alas, it seems like that's unlikely. Hopefully they'll do a fantastic reimagined version, but right now I have my doubts. And until this visit I hadn't really ever doubted the park before.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: SDC-BMW on August 04, 2019, 08:50:49 PM
Agree with above. Rode it yesterday and we were all quite pleased. Everything worked and sounded nice. One of the rides that everyone that gets off of seems super happy. Laughter and smiles every time since I’ve been riding, 1976.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Pudgy Jones on August 12, 2019, 08:53:09 AM
If they ever need to re-record the "Red Flanders" audio, my family and I would like to audition. We always shout it along with the recorded audio when we ride. We get a lot of funny looks from newbies.  :D

Seriously though, you all know my thoughts on this ride. I hope and pray that the folks in charge recognize the value of vintage rides, particularly FITH and FM. There is definitely a place and demand for these rides.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on August 12, 2019, 10:56:04 PM
I’d just be happy if all of theme songs would return.
Fire in the Hole
Flooded Mine
Powder Keg
ThuNderaTion
etc
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: KBCraig on August 15, 2019, 12:33:49 AM
I hope and pray that the folks in charge recognize the value of vintage rides, particularly FITH and FM. There is definitely a place and demand for these rides.

FM hasn't been "vintage" since they added the guns.

Yes, I'm that kind of curmudgeon.

I'm also not impressed by the new float ride. I'd rather have Jim Owens' Float Trip and Rube Dugan back.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: palallin on August 15, 2019, 08:30:03 AM
I don't disagree with your choices, KBCraig (it's hard to find someone who wants the originality more than I do--I consider ALL the roller coasters aberrations!), but I am realist enough to know that the new ride will attract quite a few.

Still, I especially support any effort to keep FM (sans the shootout, if possible).  I want the rockfall back  8)

But I have and will continue to make my voice heard concerning its survival, even in its shootout form.  Along with the train and the stagecoach, FM defined SDC for me.  We've lost the stagecoach.  If we lose FM, I will feel like someone ran over my puppy.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on August 15, 2019, 02:27:05 PM
Been on the fence about posting this and I hope I don't get in trouble, but I will come out and say while chatting with some of the SDC staff, (particularly people in charge of construction and development at the park) but Swoosh was correct as they did come out and say to me that they were indeed looking at a demo and/or rebuild of FITH. Problem is they aren't sure whether they want to go forward with spending the money on it after some of their latest financial projections were put out as the project could easily cost more than both TT and MRF combined. This would be the parks most expensive project to date.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: runner1960 on August 15, 2019, 02:45:05 PM
Been on the fence about posting this and I hope I don't get in trouble, but I will come out and say while chatting with some of the SDC staff, (particularly people in charge of construction and development at the park) but Swoosh was correct as they did come out and say to me that they were indeed looking at a demo and/or rebuild of FITH. Problem is they aren't sure whether they want to go forward with spending the money on it after some of their latest financial projections were put out as the project could easily cost more than both TT and MRF combined. This would be the parks most expensive project to date.


Wouldn't that be in the 52 million dollar range ? Really hard for me to believe that number.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on August 15, 2019, 02:54:16 PM
If they were to do the old ride justice then yes. They really could do some interesting things with modern tech. The concrete work also costs a lot of money apparently. Its partially why some of the theming elements that were allegedly supposed to be for Time Travelers ride course were cut and why we aren't seeing MRF load station enclosed inside a fake rock structure like LR was.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on August 15, 2019, 02:58:30 PM
Been on the fence about posting this and I hope I don't get in trouble, but I will come out and say while chatting with some of the SDC staff, (particularly people in charge of construction and development at the park) but Swoosh was correct as they did come out and say to me that they were indeed looking at a demo and/or rebuild of FITH. Problem is they aren't sure whether they want to go forward with spending the money on it after some of their latest financial projections were put out as the project could easily cost more than both TT and MRF combined. This would be the parks most expensive project to date.

Well?  first of all the demo cost...  then keep in mind IF it is indeed a dark ride as "we" suspect it will be...  YOu have to build a bigass building,  AND then you put a New Coaster, with all the new stuff in/on it,  add some Special effects screens for effect.....  Priced at todays cost..  I can see the number for a large attraction..   thats a lot of 0's :o :o


Wouldn't that be in the 52 million dollar range ? Really hard for me to believe that number.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on August 15, 2019, 08:11:51 PM
FYI I think the 2020 thread got broken. I see someone posted but I can't seem to load the latest page.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: History Buff on August 15, 2019, 08:23:11 PM
FYI I think the 2020 thread got broken. I see someone posted but I can't seem to load the latest page.

I tried to manipulate it, but it didn't work.  I went at it from a previous page and forwarded to the last page.  I can see it that way, but the last page still does not allow me to add a reply.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: BackInTime on July 30, 2020, 12:36:25 PM
With MRF officially open and an unprecedented time in history, time to start speculating about the next major project for SDC. Not intended to be a poll by any means, below are just several of the possibilities that have surfaced or been thrown around ad nauseam for some time.

- Classic refurb to AP or FITH?
- Off year with classic demo (FM) to make way for a new attraction in 2022?
- Off year for attraction development with major park entrance overhaul?
- Family style coaster like DW's Firechaser Express or Dragonflier?
- B&M Winged Coaster?
- Hypercoaster?
- Emphasis on strengthening show and craftsmen offerings?
- Other?

Can't help but be anxious and curious about SDC's next move. What are everyone's thoughts as it stands? Let's discuss. 
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on July 30, 2020, 08:08:57 PM
Absolutely nothing.  And don’t be surprised if the next big addition comes in 2024 or later
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on July 31, 2020, 08:19:53 AM
Absolutely nothing.  And don’t be surprised if the next big addition comes in 2024 or later

For sure agree with you on this one...

with the massive loss revenue this year from the "plandemic",
it will take a couple of years to recoup and regroup to even consider the next addition,
and that is assuming it goes away or gets better and doesnt have to be dealt with next year.

It is in the plans already, they know what they are going to do, just lost at least 2 years if not 3 before anything "big" happens.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on July 31, 2020, 08:44:07 AM
I would guess that next year nothing happens, but in 2022 either FITH or FM closes (or is already closed at the end of 2021) and gets torn down. They will have to keep moving on replacing the classics one way or another. Time is running out for them, and we know they don't want to reinvest to keep them going. By 2023 we'll have the next big thing.

Unless the economy really does crap the bed and can't get back up. In which case who knows what will happen...
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: pintrader on July 31, 2020, 11:15:53 AM
At this point I don't see a major project at SDC for a few years.  Long term plans have probably been put on the back burner with priority being on the short term.  Attendance numbers are probably running 50% or less (probably less) than last year's.  With attendance cap in place and covid-19 running rampant doesn't give much hope of things improving the remainder of the year.

I am not sure what their basis would be to tear down either FITH or FM without a firm plan to rebuild soon after.  I would think the logical thing to do would be keep these classics open until you have something definitive to go forward with.   They replaced the Waterboggan with Riverblast , Lost River with MRF and GG with FL so that seems to be their plan of replacement.

Yes I guess time might be running out for these classics with all the speculation and rumors I hear, but they are still 2 of the most loved rides in the park.  Budget these rides a few hundred thousand out of that 60 or 70 million spent on the last 2 major projects.  Now to me that is ROI!
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Duelist on July 31, 2020, 09:30:26 PM
I would be absolutely thrilled if they would just FIX THE THUNDERATION BUMPS!
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: BackInTime on August 03, 2020, 10:49:07 PM
I wasn't really focused on the when as much as the what. I think we're all in agreement that COVID has thrown a wrench into the park's master plan, I was just curious what everyone's thoughts were about what will be addressed next when things return to "normal".

I still anticipate a major surge in consumer spending once the dust settles and concern eases around this entire mess. Obviously and unfortunately, many families have been adversely affected with job loss and illness, but I'm optimistic things will rebound quickly and HFEC won't have "suffered" too much.

One way or another, I would bet the farm that the complexion of this pandemic looks dramatically different come the first week of November. But I digress. We certainly have the time, so why not re-open the speculation vault on what could be ahead for SDC?
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Lampie on August 05, 2020, 02:05:49 PM
I hope I’m wrong, but I’m starting to think we are going to be in a pandemic mitigation situation for another year maybe longer. With that in mind, I could see them making some front entrance remodels this office season. Something with a focus of helping guest flow while pandemic precautions are in effect but also streamlining flow for a post pandemic world where they hopefully return to crowd levels they had before the pandemic.

But like the rest of y’all I don’t expect anything big for 2-3 years minimum. I think their next big ride would be a coaster, those seem to have the biggest effect on attendance. I’d still love to see some more indoor everyone can ride options but in light of covid I think they will need/want something that really brings in crowds and new visitors.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Jemmicat on August 06, 2020, 12:49:47 PM
It still amazes me that people think this all goes away in November... Does no one else pay attention to what is happening in hundreds of other countries that DON'T have an election in November?

But I digress... They have needed to address the park entrance for years. The large crowds of the last few years have stressed what is already a clusterF@&!.

Things that need done IMO:

Move the cart/stroller rental BEFORE the ticket gates and perhaps have a separate entrance gate just for carts. They could also use this as an overflow entrance gate when crowds are large. Families with strollers or carts are generally going to move much slower than the gen pop and giving a separate entrance for them to "get up to speed" would be nicer I would think

Widen the area considerably

Have someone moving people along. People walk just past the ticket gate and stop. Some to get their party together. Some because they are clueless. And a bunch more because the stroller and cart rental bleed into the already narrow walkway.

Move the Branson Belle ticketing somewhere else.

a nice to have would be a self service ticket scanner with possible facial recognition - you place your ticket on the scanner, smile for the camera and a gate opens and you are in. much faster (in theory) to passing your pass to a person and them having to orient it to the gun and then checking ID (for season pass holders).


Pretty much I think everything could be made better by just moving the stroller and cart rental and the Branson Belle ticketing booth. But the other things would be nice.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: MCLFLN on August 06, 2020, 01:40:13 PM
I would love to have the option of using the app on my phone as my ticket and not have to carry around the paper version.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on August 06, 2020, 07:12:09 PM
I like the idea of the ticket on the phone, however I would not be going anymore if they went with some sort of facial recognition deal.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Jemmicat on August 07, 2020, 08:30:16 AM
Okie... Because they want to prevent fraud is why they check the ID for season pass... without some sort of facial recognition or just a camera alone, I don't see them doing any automated system.

And they take your picture throughout the park on rides or whatever... don't see how one more picture is a big deal.

While I hate the intrusion of it all, I am used to it with airports and customs. Heathrow airport does a complete facial scan when you enter the country. You put your passport on the machine and it takes a picture. It is the same way with US customs... While annoying, it is what it is
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: runner1960 on August 07, 2020, 02:00:36 PM
Yes to phone ticket. I would be happy to do facial recognition or biometric finger scan. My picture is taken probably dozens of times per day at stoplights, stores, attractions. At least I would know this one was being taken.  A lot could be done to speed up the entry process.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: MCLFLN on August 07, 2020, 03:46:57 PM
I think if you buy regular tickets they already email you a barcode that you can scan from your phone. I assume the hold up for season passes is the concern of misuse but I have to wonder if this is any less secure than people using fake ID's etc.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on December 23, 2020, 10:48:56 AM
Wow is this board dead. 
Work is being done on TNT
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: MCLFLN on December 23, 2020, 11:00:49 AM
Any details?

Wow is this board dead. 
Work is being done on TNT
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on December 23, 2020, 06:50:29 PM
Pier work.  Additional bracing. 
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on December 24, 2020, 07:51:25 PM
Looks like it is in the area of where one of those hard bumps is.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: KBCraig on December 25, 2020, 10:03:19 PM
Wow is this board dead. 

Welcome back and thanks for the updates, Mr. Two Posts in November and Two Posts in October. ;)
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Duelist on December 26, 2020, 09:10:21 PM
Wow!  That's one of the best Christmas presents I can think of from SDC: making Thunderation rideable again!  I do get in 1 ride on it each trip but that's all I could handle with the rib-breaking bumps.  Thanks Swoosh!
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on December 27, 2020, 07:12:56 PM
Yes, it's been hard to stay active when everything seems to be in limbo these days. Hopefully 2021 brings a burst of activity and the park is packed all year so they can continue with their growth in 2022. I've heard there are some dark thoughts around the company of what could happen if things don't turn around...

The work on TNT is great, but I wonder if they are actually going to do the work necessary to fix the large bumps, or if this is just basic TLC to get it through another season? The tunnel is what really needs work, but I imagine it's the hardest area to fix.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on December 28, 2020, 07:23:42 PM
I rode TNT yesterday and I will say it is hard to tell if it is any better or not.  I really do not think it is, and might actually be worse.  I rode in the very front.  All I can say is thank god for trailblazer passes on my visit this past weekend.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on December 28, 2020, 08:55:50 PM
Well I didn’t expect there to be a huge difference in just one application with TNT

There’s lots of “possible” projects that could happen this off season.  It all depends on how tight the bean counters want to pull those purse strings shut. 

Some things have to be done, the park doesn’t have a choice.  Mystic River Falls needs attention.  PowderKeg needs attention so it can run more than one train again.  Wildfire needs to finish the repairs to its roof (damaged by straight line winds).  Outlaw Run... well it’s probably going to need I Box before it’s all said and done.  Flooded Mine needs a whole new system (Sally?).  Some buildings need to be removed for safety reasons. 

I guess we’ll see what all gets done... I’m guessing not much. 
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: cowboy on December 29, 2020, 08:54:09 AM
I know everyone wants a bunch of new stuff each year (I do like new stuf), but I also like it when the park goes in and takes a break and makes small improvements all around the park. Make each ride the best it can be and I'm happy. The things that annoy me the most are knowing something can be much better than it is....because at one time, it was better. TNT for example, the Flooded Mine, American Plunge.....

Each year doesn't have to have a 20 million ride - make everything you have the best it can be and people will keep coming back, and back, and back...

Jay
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: legoerosion on December 29, 2020, 11:30:15 AM
Some things have to be done, the park doesn’t have a choice.  Mystic River Falls needs attention. 

If you're allowed/able to answer, what's wrong with Mystic River Falls?? Is it just some kinks that they need to iron out?
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Duelist on December 29, 2020, 04:11:00 PM
^ I would guess the elevator lift.  I know it had issues this year.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Citydweller84 on December 29, 2020, 09:54:26 PM
^ I would guess the elevator lift.  I know it had issues this year.

That would be my guess too. Every visit I made when it was operating it ended up being down for maintenance at some point. And every time there was a boat stuck on the lift.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mg on December 30, 2020, 10:07:17 AM
PowderKeg needs attention so it can run more than one train again.

It has been running both trains.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mg on December 30, 2020, 10:10:30 AM
It also looks like work being done on Outlaw Run.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on December 30, 2020, 11:56:51 PM
PowderKeg needs attention so it can run more than one train again.

It has been running both trains.

You’re aware it can run 3 correct?
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on December 31, 2020, 03:12:12 PM
Some things have to be done, the park doesn’t have a choice.  Mystic River Falls needs attention. 

If you're allowed/able to answer, what's wrong with Mystic River Falls?? Is it just some kinks that they need to iron out?

I think you are better off asking what works well with MRF. It should be obvious to anyone who visited this year that the ride is... oddly put together. I watched them try to unstick boats from the drop several times on my trip in August. This involves a few people standing in the boat and rocking it back and forth until it unsticks.  ::)

The elevator lift seemed to be finicky as well.

They need to stop spending tens of millions of dollars on rides that have so many issues.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on December 31, 2020, 05:15:07 PM
It is almost like MRF is a solution looking for a problem.  There was no reason to make it so unnecessarily complicated except for ego in having the tallest biggest fastest whatever.  If they wanted to completely redo the ride they could have done it much more simple like the old rid.  I still would have much preferred to just keep LR.  Fix it if it needed work.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on December 31, 2020, 07:10:57 PM
Yeah in hindsight I am growing more and more concerned Mystic River Falls is the parks new Buzzsaw Falls. (we all saw how well that went) I know it barely ran for a season so far so I might be jumping the gun but I'm kinda wishing now that they had put the amount of money they spent on it into a new dark ride or even another coaster instead. To put it into another perspective $30 mil. could have gotten the park something like Fury out at Carowinds. I know I bring it up a lot but a terrain hyper/giga from B&M would be a great fit on the back side of the park and would at least be a reliable people eater.

Also, $30 mil. could have easily fixed up the other issues all around the park that others have repeatedly mentioned on here. (save for maybe a proper FITH rebuild)
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Duelist on December 31, 2020, 07:54:02 PM
^ I hear and agree with you somewhat but they did need to put in another water ride after taking Lost River out.  But I do agree they could have spent less by making it more like Lost River and using the money for repairing existing rides.  Hindsight is 20/20 I guess ( and we all know how 2020 went  :P)
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on December 31, 2020, 08:06:06 PM
^ I hear and agree with you somewhat but they did need to put in another water ride after taking Lost River out.  But I do agree they could have spent less by making it more like Lost River and using the money for repairing existing rides.  Hindsight is 20/20 I guess ( and we all know how 2020 went  :P)

Or better yet, leaving Lost River alone for the most part and using the cash for the other rides. ;)
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: History Buff on December 31, 2020, 08:27:27 PM
I mean, why build a giant time machine beside TnT if they're not going to use it to go back and fix their mistakes?
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: legoerosion on December 31, 2020, 09:25:56 PM
I kind of expected MRF to have its issues in its first season, as it is a very complex ride on top of a water ride. It seems like SDC is good at ironing out the issues of new rides after its first, maybe second season. Time will tell, though.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mg on December 31, 2020, 11:50:14 PM
PowderKeg needs attention so it can run more than one train again.

It has been running both trains.

You’re aware it can run 3 correct?

Yes, I was just pointing out that it was running more than one. “Both” was a bad word choice.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 09, 2021, 10:56:17 PM
TARGET OPENING DAY SET FOR MARCH 20
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 17, 2021, 09:04:49 AM
Sounds like Terry is developing a new character to portray for MRF
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 22, 2021, 08:06:06 PM
SDC released tonight on their social media platforms a photo of the progress being made on the MRF marquee installation (yes it’s finally happening)
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: History Buff on January 22, 2021, 10:53:39 PM
NEW FOR '21!  A...sign.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 23, 2021, 07:14:13 AM
NEW FOR '21!  A...sign.

Quite a few BOH projects going on as well.  Nothing too exciting for the GP to go into detail though

There’s been quite a a shake up in management too.  Lots of restructuring

A few in park projects including removal of a couple buildings and widening of paths.  The biggest one could be removal of the original depot completely and maybe the remaining structure of the treehouse
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: History Buff on January 23, 2021, 10:00:01 AM
NEW FOR '21!  A...sign.

Quite a few BOH projects going on as well.  Nothing too exciting for the GP to go into detail though

There’s been quite a a shake up in management too.  Lots of restructuring

A few in park projects including removal of a couple buildings and widening of paths.  The biggest one could be removal of the original depot completely and maybe the remaining structure of the treehouse

I'm just amazed that they hyped an unfinished sign on social media as if it was a big reveal.  Disappointing your followers with a suspenseful promise and not delivering is probably not a good policy.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 23, 2021, 10:31:18 AM
That seems to be a common thread here lately for the park
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on January 23, 2021, 07:30:35 PM
I would like to hear about these BOH projects and management shakeups.  Sounds interesting.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mhguy77 on January 25, 2021, 09:07:15 PM
Quote
NEW FOR '21!  A...sign.

2020 was a challenge, but certainly for a park trying to enter into the ride race.  This seems to be the direction SDC is taking.  A overdue sign is pretty darn lackluster.  There must be more to brag about.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 29, 2021, 09:52:03 AM
I think this year I'm most excited to see them continue fleshing out the new festival area. I am betting by this fall the crowds will be packing the park out again to 26+ thousand capacity.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: MCLFLN on January 29, 2021, 09:57:28 AM
Something as simple as digital season passes and google/apple pay would make me happy.

I would love to not have to take my wallet on days where I am riding water rides....
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: runner1960 on January 29, 2021, 02:33:55 PM
I would like that also, But, If I am going to carry a $1000.00 phone into a water ride my wallet is inconsequential.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: MCLFLN on January 29, 2021, 02:55:28 PM
My phone is water resistant and I won't be leaving it in cubby. (or my wallet for that matter)

My answer now is a ziplock bag for the wallet but would just prefer not to have it in the park.

Even if you don't ride rides that paper does not hold up to rain either...

I would like that also, But, If I am going to carry a $1000.00 phone into a water ride my wallet is inconsequential.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mg on January 29, 2021, 08:05:01 PM
Pumpkins in the City is expanding this season.

silverdollarcity.com/theme-park/Festivals/Harvest-Festival
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 29, 2021, 08:16:52 PM
Pumpkins in the City is expanding this season.

silverdollarcity.com/theme-park/Festivals/Harvest-Festival

Glad they finally announced it.  A year later than they originally planned but it’s finally happening. 
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: History Buff on January 29, 2021, 08:21:37 PM
Pumpkins in the City is expanding this season.

silverdollarcity.com/theme-park/Festivals/Harvest-Festival

Glad they finally announced it.  A year later than they originally planned but it’s finally happening.

I was going to say...wasn't this supposed to have already happened?
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mg on January 29, 2021, 08:42:25 PM

I was going to say...wasn't this supposed to have already happened?

It was announced for the 2020 season, but then was quietly removed from the site.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 29, 2021, 11:25:27 PM

I was going to say...wasn't this supposed to have already happened?

It was announced for the 2020 season, but then was quietly removed from the site.

The new plans are a little different from the original... and even then I’m having trouble remembering what they actually announced and what I was told they were going to do.  I swear I remember something in the middle of Lake Silver was being planned at one time
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Citydweller84 on January 30, 2021, 01:10:18 PM
Something as simple as digital season passes and google/apple pay would make me happy.

I would love to not have to take my wallet on days where I am riding water rides....

I would just love having the option of Apple Pay. Not enough places use it, but somewhere like SDC or other theme parks should be all over this because it could speed up lines when purchasing food.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: KBCraig on January 30, 2021, 09:47:54 PM
I would just love having the option of Apple Pay. Not enough places use it, but somewhere like SDC or other theme parks should be all over this because it could speed up lines when purchasing food.

I don't know how widely mobile payment has been adopted in theme/amusement parks, but Apple Pay is widely available with a few stubborn holdouts like Walmart (because they want to create their own payment system).

Mobile payment is definitely faster.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mhguy77 on February 01, 2021, 11:17:37 AM
Also raise the prices, the money handlers are making a fortune these days. 
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on March 24, 2021, 11:20:06 AM
So for all the effort the park put into Thunderation this year, it sounds like it didn't really pay off? Is the curve out of the tunnel smooth at least? I'm still having trouble understanding why they didn't retrack the tunnel where the biggest complaint is.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on March 24, 2021, 07:52:27 PM
Thats unfortunate. Maybe they ran out of time. It might be a multi-season project like TimberWolf at WOF or Thunderhead at DW.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on March 24, 2021, 08:04:52 PM
So for all the effort the park put into Thunderation this year, it sounds like it didn't really pay off? Is the curve out of the tunnel smooth at least? I'm still having trouble understanding why they didn't retrack the tunnel where the biggest complaint is.

Thats unfortunate. Maybe they ran out of time. It might be a multi-season project like TimberWolf at WOF or Thunderhead at DW.

The ONLY rough part of ThuNderaTion now is in the tunnel and immediately exiting it.  The curve closest to TT is quite smooth now.  There’s a bump still going into the tunnel at the bottom of the lift, but that’s been there for as long as I can remember.  AND yes this is a multi-year fix.  There were lots of projects that did not get finished because the park had to deal with other issues... like electric work thanks to the snow that melted than hard frozen causing all sorts of issues.  Several buildings that were supposed to be removed are still standing.  I won’t even get into some of the issues that the legacy attractions are having. 

Frankly the park is lucky that it opened last weekend due to delays caused by the weather in prep
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: MCLFLN on March 25, 2021, 07:55:43 AM
It is good to hear they plan to still fix Thunderation and for the reminder that there are sometimes reasons things don't happen as quickly as we hope!

So for all the effort the park put into Thunderation this year, it sounds like it didn't really pay off? Is the curve out of the tunnel smooth at least? I'm still having trouble understanding why they didn't retrack the tunnel where the biggest complaint is.

Thats unfortunate. Maybe they ran out of time. It might be a multi-season project like TimberWolf at WOF or Thunderhead at DW.

The ONLY rough part of ThuNderaTion now is in the tunnel and immediately exiting it.  The curve closest to TT is quite smooth now.  There’s a bump still going into the tunnel at the bottom of the lift, but that’s been there for as long as I can remember.  AND yes this is a multi-year fix.  There were lots of projects that did not get finished because the park had to deal with other issues... like electric work thanks to the snow that melted than hard frozen causing all sorts of issues.  Several buildings that were supposed to be removed are still standing.  I won’t even get into some of the issues that the legacy attractions are having. 

Frankly the park is lucky that it opened last weekend due to delays caused by the weather in prep
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Lampie on March 26, 2021, 04:23:32 PM
I haven’t seen anyone else mention this but the drop on Mystic river falls appears to have been resurfaced. Unless I’m crazy last year it was white rollers, this year it’s a black solid surface. Not the best picture, but it shows the black surface of the drop.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mg on March 26, 2021, 10:10:38 PM
I haven’t seen anyone else mention this but the drop on Mystic river falls appears to have been resurfaced. Unless I’m crazy last year it was white rollers, this year it’s a black solid surface. Not the best picture, but it shows the black surface of the drop.

Yes, it is different, but here weren't rollers on the drop last year.
The rafts also have a new cover over the handrails.

They have also finished the water blasters at the end of the drop. You can pay to shoot them at the rafts as they go by. It is 2 shots for $1 or 12 shots for $5. You buy tokens out of a machine and then it is one token per shot.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mg on August 29, 2021, 10:29:31 AM
The construction fence is down and you can see the wider woodland trail.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Duelist on August 29, 2021, 05:37:35 PM
^ Thanks for the update.  Still wish it was for construction for new attraction <sigh>
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on August 31, 2021, 03:43:07 AM
Still odd they went thru all the trouble for a fence this time around.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mg on August 31, 2021, 12:14:24 PM
I don't recall what time of year they built the original path, but if it wasn't in the summer when the park was open 7 days a week, could they have done construction on off days. But since they did it during the summer this time, they had the wall so that active construction during the operating day was somewhat hidden?
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Jemmicat on September 01, 2021, 01:32:34 AM
Admittedly I've not been on that path and am not sure where it comes out on the other side. I know it starts near where the water boggan tower is... I am wondering if perhaps they widened it due to ADA requirements... Because if that path comes out where I think, the path could be a bypass for that slight hill that is coming up from Fireman's Landing for carts and wheelchairs and the like. That hill there is deceptively steep... I used to actually cut through the theater most times to flatten it out

Just a thought as to the "why" as seems like a lot of work for no real benefit otherwise


As a side note, I've been in London for 9+ months now. I miss going to the park terribly... hasn't helped that the "summer" here has been kind of ridiculous - it's only been above 80 for 2 weeks... I've worn a jacket every day but 2 weeks for 9 months. And it's been quite rainy as well. It's been an anomaly for a summer based off a graphic on the news this morning. The winter was much better than a typical midwest winter but this summer has been a letdown
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: pintrader on September 01, 2021, 07:45:48 AM
In The Grand Exposition there is a gate between The Elephant March and Red Gold Heritage Hall that leads to an open plaza.  This is where the trail begins or ends depending on how you want to look at it or where you start from. I think they probably just widened it because of the increased traffic they are expecting for Pumpkins In The City which they are expanding this year.

As far as a bypass you already have the hill fairly well beat by the time you get that far up and it would be out of the way considering you will be in the back of Grand Expo instead of the front of the Frisco Barn. Depends on where you are going.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Lampie on September 03, 2021, 01:13:51 PM
While on the train Wednesday, our conductor said they are remodeling the salon. I don’t remember them saying that earlier this year(just saying things like the salon girls decided to take the show on the road). I don’t know if they actually are doing a remodel. If they are I feel like they might be making the ground floor all one level to be more disability accessible.

Anyone else hear anything about a remodel? Anything you’d like to see them do if they are remodeling?
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on September 04, 2021, 09:34:58 AM
While on the train Wednesday, our conductor said they are remodeling the salon. I don’t remember them saying that earlier this year(just saying things like the salon girls decided to take the show on the road). I don’t know if they actually are doing a remodel. If they are I feel like they might be making the ground floor all one level to be more disability accessible.

Anyone else hear anything about a remodel? Anything you’d like to see them do if they are remodeling?

It’s just a cute backstory on why the show is outside and not in the Saloon.  If they make any changes to the Saloon it will no longer be grandfathered and will have to comply with ADA standards
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: KBCraig on September 04, 2021, 08:41:36 PM
If they make any changes to the Saloon it will no longer be grandfathered and will have to comply with ADA standards

Not exactly. There is no "grandfather clause".

All places of public access must comply with the 1991 ADA standards. Modifications after March 15, 2012, must comply with the 2010 ADA standards.

https://adata.org/faq/if-i-am-altering-or-doing-addition-my-building-can-i-still-follow-older-1991-ada-standards
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on September 06, 2021, 02:39:46 PM
If they make any changes to the Saloon it will no longer be grandfathered and will have to comply with ADA standards

Not exactly. There is no "grandfather clause".

All places of public access must comply with the 1991 ADA standards. Modifications after March 15, 2012, must comply with the 2010 ADA standards.


https://adata.org/faq/if-i-am-altering-or-doing-addition-my-building-can-i-still-follow-older-1991-ada-standards

Thank you for proving my point
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: KBCraig on September 06, 2021, 08:01:15 PM
If they make any changes to the Saloon it will no longer be grandfathered and will have to comply with ADA standards

Not exactly. There is no "grandfather clause".

All places of public access must comply with the 1991 ADA standards. Modifications after March 15, 2012, must comply with the 2010 ADA standards.


https://adata.org/faq/if-i-am-altering-or-doing-addition-my-building-can-i-still-follow-older-1991-ada-standards

Thank you for proving my point

Your "point" was that any changes have to comply with current ADA standards, and that's not true.

But, you're always right, we're always wrong, you always know better, blahblahblah.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mg on September 07, 2021, 01:22:36 PM
It looks like the current plan is that Dickens' will return with new music, there will be a new Broadway style show called Home for Christmas and the Saloon show will return to the saloon for Christmas.

silverdollarcity.com/News/10-Reasons-To-Visit-Fall-and-Christmas (http://silverdollarcity.com/News/10-Reasons-To-Visit-Fall-and-Christmas)
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on September 07, 2021, 03:19:30 PM
Very cool. Glad to see it's official, and the extra show is a nice surprise. Will be weird without the Wallace's though, so whatever casting they do to replace them will make or break the show.

Just hope they have enough staff for all this...
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on September 08, 2021, 06:25:17 AM
If they make any changes to the Saloon it will no longer be grandfathered and will have to comply with ADA standards

Not exactly. There is no "grandfather clause".

All places of public access must comply with the 1991 ADA standards. Modifications after March 15, 2012, must comply with the 2010 ADA standards.


https://adata.org/faq/if-i-am-altering-or-doing-addition-my-building-can-i-still-follow-older-1991-ada-standards

Thank you for proving my point

Your "point" was that any changes have to comply with current ADA standards, and that's not true.

But, you're always right, we're always wrong, you always know better, blahblahblah.

Well in this case, you *ARE* wrong. I never once stated “current” in my post.  Now *YOU* did and therein lies the issue. 
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on September 08, 2021, 06:25:45 AM
It looks like the current plan is that Dickens' will return with new music, there will be a new Broadway style show called Home for Christmas and the Saloon show will return to the saloon for Christmas.

silverdollarcity.com/News/10-Reasons-To-Visit-Fall-and-Christmas (http://silverdollarcity.com/News/10-Reasons-To-Visit-Fall-and-Christmas)

Good
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: kbosch1 on September 08, 2021, 09:25:53 AM
It looks like the current plan is that Dickens' will return with new music, there will be a new Broadway style show called Home for Christmas and the Saloon show will return to the saloon for Christmas.

silverdollarcity.com/News/10-Reasons-To-Visit-Fall-and-Christmas (http://silverdollarcity.com/News/10-Reasons-To-Visit-Fall-and-Christmas)

Good

Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mg on October 04, 2021, 03:12:29 PM
There is a new light pole at the top of paid parking. It looks to have some network equipment at the top. I really appreciate that they used a nice looking light pole and not the standard wooden pole (not in the photo, the the base has some ornamental design to the base).

We also noticed that there has been quite a bit of grit material added down the hills from the square. Is this something that is done every fall? I don't remember it in the past. I assume that it is to add traction for the winter.

Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on October 30, 2021, 08:31:06 PM
I have been told by several people that one of TT's trains was sold to Plopsaland for ride to Happiness. Not sure what they were thinking, but perhaps they were offered a bunch of money for it and will replace it later? I feel like supply chain issues probably had something to do with it.

Regarding the post about SDC selling back one of Time Traveler's trains to MACK. Looks like this might indeed be it in action on "The Ride to Happiness" at Plopsaland De Panne. I noticed the trains and some of the theming here looks identical too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqOZESuLZR4
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: tinmann620 on October 31, 2021, 04:01:27 AM
Ha Ha, NO. All 3 trains are still there. They haven't, nor would, sell any trains to another park.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on October 31, 2021, 02:35:57 PM
Ha Ha, NO. All 3 trains are still there. They haven't, nor would, sell any trains to another park.

Agrred.!!   The Steam Engine Trains that SDC owns now, wont be going anywhere.   
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mg on October 31, 2021, 03:22:23 PM
They are talking about the rumor/news that SDC sold one of the Time Traveler coaster trains, NOT one of the steam trains.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on November 01, 2021, 10:02:22 AM
If the third train is still around, it must be/have been in pieces most of this season. That rumor started when we didn't see the third train anymore and the exact same trains popped up at Plopsaland. I definitely believed it. Not like SDC has been trying to run multiple trains on anything very often for the past couple of years, and parts for anything are impossible to come by these days.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on November 06, 2021, 04:42:43 PM
Every coaster but TT is running two trains today.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on November 06, 2021, 07:39:57 PM
That's fantastic news. Time Traveler is the one that needs it most unfortunately, but it is what it is. The park reached capacity today from the sounds of it, so I'm glad they are trying to get everything running at peak capacity again.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mg on November 07, 2021, 09:38:01 PM
The Fry Bread stand has now been rebranded as the Chick-n-Waffle Cone Company.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on November 08, 2021, 06:26:36 AM
Interesting. I guess the Fry Bread wasn't that popular?
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: pintrader on November 08, 2021, 07:03:46 AM
I can't see the Chick-n-Waffle being a lot better, lol.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Duelist on November 08, 2021, 08:25:18 AM
We love the Cashew chicken waffle cones.  Very good!
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: cowboy on November 08, 2021, 09:03:23 AM
We love the Cashew chicken waffle cones.  Very good!

I really liked the cashew chicken waffle cone last year. To the point I was craving them. This year's version wasn't good in my opinion. It wasn't sweet like the year's before (kind of the way cashew chicken is at the oriental restaurant), this year's was in a brown gravy and wasn't something I'll eat again. Bring back the stuff from 2020....

Jay
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on November 08, 2021, 10:47:48 AM
That seems out of left field, but now that I think about it I haven't tried the fry bread in years. Now I want some, lol. It wasn't bad, but I don't remember it jumping out and grabbing me as something I needed to have when I visited.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mg on November 08, 2021, 12:06:39 PM
This year's version wasn't good in my opinion. It wasn't sweet like the year's before (kind of the way cashew chicken is at the oriental restaurant), this year's was in a brown gravy and wasn't something I'll eat again.

Are you sure you didn't have the sweet & sour pork? Cashew chicken isn't sweet and is brown gravy. We love the cashew chicken waffle cones. I am curious to see if they are back to making the cones or if they are using the pre-made ones like they did toward the end of Pumpkins in the City. The ones that they make are way better.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: cowboy on November 08, 2021, 04:35:31 PM
Nope, I'm pretty sure I remember it well.... It wasn't brown gravy last year. This year's version didn't impress at all, was hard to choke down. The 2021 version was very good, I was so looking forward to eating it again...but didn't even finish it at our last visit :'(

Here's some recipes for cashew chicken, even the pioneer woman's recipe is sweet and doesn't contain brown gravy:

https://www.onceuponachef.com/recipes/cashew-chicken.html

https://www.thepioneerwoman.com/food-cooking/recipes/a84800/cashew-chicken/

Jay
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mg on November 08, 2021, 06:12:10 PM
That's not the same kind of cashew chicken. They do the Springfield Style Cashew Chicken that is more of a brown gravy.

https://www.417mag.com/recipes/springfield-style-cashew-chicken/

When they first started doing them they even talked about how it was taking the local cashew chicken and presenting it in a new way.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: cowboy on November 08, 2021, 07:16:35 PM
You learn something new everyday, but that one is nasty….not going to eat that again. Which just means for those that like it, I won’t be taking any away from them. I swear though what I had in 2020 was sweet compared to this year….but my kids have been threatening to put me in a nursing home so there is that….

Jay.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sirwillow on November 13, 2021, 11:01:16 AM
Just a note, saloon show is NOT in the saloon this year.  The Fa-la-la Follies is actually in the Riverfront Playhouse instead.
Title: Re: SDC’s 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on November 18, 2021, 03:37:17 PM
I noticed in the photos from Coaster Christmas they used the Saloon as a breakfast area for attendees. Nice to see the inside again after so long. Let's hope they use it again in 2022.