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Re: SDC's 2020 Project(s) and Park Developments
« Reply #90 on: December 11, 2018, 09:22:28 PM »
All I can say is if they will just rip this ride out like it was nothing it probably wont be too long before they do the same with FM or FITH

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« Reply #91 on: December 12, 2018, 06:59:52 AM »
All I can say is if they will just rip this ride out like it was nothing it probably wont be too long before they do the same with FM or FITH

Ultimately that is true...

If and when they make that decision, (if it hasnt already been made), they will bring in the dozers and trackhoes and demolish the area without a thought..

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« Reply #92 on: December 12, 2018, 08:19:42 AM »
^Which begs the question, when does it cross the line for a place like SDC to change and rip out so much that it loses what makes the park special with its fans or the general public? I do get the fact everything has an expiration date and operational/maintenance costs can get to the point its impractical to keep it going but it still seems to be a valid question that I'm sure the public and even the PTB probably ask themselves.

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« Reply #93 on: December 12, 2018, 10:16:00 AM »
I feel like SDC knows that FITH and FM are their gems. They know that there would be distraught throughout the GP if they just randomly rip out FITH and FM. I'm on the line of that they're going to announce that they're completely refurbishing both FM and FITH in 2019/2020, except one at a time, because they're already building a new attraction.

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Re: SDC's 2020 Project(s) and Park Developments
« Reply #94 on: December 12, 2018, 11:23:30 AM »
Appreciate the photos from everyone.

I can almost guarantee they won't re-use the name. If they are spending this much, they want to be sure and market it as a new ride, not a "refurbishment". It's all about marketing.

absolutely... it wont be
Lost river,
or Owens ride.

Be lucky if the name has any reference to the Ozark Heritage at all....

example-
time traveler
firemans landin
river blast-  (well maybe a little)

River Blast actually has a ton of Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn theming. Isn't the full name actually Tom and Hucks River Blast?

Fireman's Landing has a lot of rides packed in, which makes it feel a little carnival-ish, but there's also tons of detail and theming.

Time Traveler apparently ran over budget, so the station exterior and bottom floor are a bit disappointing, but the upper levels and the trains are very cool. It also has a rich backstory and lots of detail for those who care to pay attention. The name itself is pretty generic.

So all in all, SDC has a good track record and deserves all the benefit of the doubt as usual. We always wring our hands about the theme being hampered, but they always deliver a good product. Even if the name is generic, I am expecting it to look really nice and have a fun back=story theme that us fans can appreciate.

Lost River wasn't exactly themed that much anyway. Might have been some stuff hanging in the queue line that I have forgotten, but I don't remember anything that stood out. The theme was just a river that sucks into a cave. If they have some kind of cave theme or element with the new ride, it will be a nice homage/continuation of the theme.

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« Reply #95 on: December 12, 2018, 11:37:02 AM »
Well with this transformation of the area being underway lets speculate further on how this will be done and laid out. I know its being mentioned to likely have similarities to Infinity Falls. I do hope the legacy of Lost River will be kept and this is more of a "re-imagining" of it. Keep the name and theme but expand on theming the heck out of it. Make the layout larger and keep elements such as the interior "cave" finale and the big first drop off the lift. Maybe shrink the lake size and add a bit of the layout out there too or place the station on the north side of Firemans Landing where Splash Harbor used to be.

Again I was really surprised this happened, I had always expected FITH, AP, or particularly FM to go first. And fair warning with the loss of this (and Waterboggen a few years ago) expect the summer ride lines for American Plunge and River Blast to be atrocious in 2019. lol

Also here is a perspective of the before and after:

I hold out no hopes for theming at all. The last couple of  projects should put that to rest fast. If it comes to dollars or immersive theming the dollars win every time. If it does happen its just a bonus. But I expect a generic ride experience.

Yep, Time Traveler should have had:

A) first drop into a rock facade cave

B) show building at first launch.

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« Reply #96 on: December 12, 2018, 02:06:26 PM »
Appreciate the photos from everyone.

I can almost guarantee they won't re-use the name. If they are spending this much, they want to be sure and market it as a new ride, not a "refurbishment". It's all about marketing.

absolutely... it wont be
Lost river,
or Owens ride.

Be lucky if the name has any reference to the Ozark Heritage at all....

example-
time traveler
firemans landin
river blast-  (well maybe a little)

River Blast actually has a ton of Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn theming. Isn't the full name actually Tom and Hucks River Blast?

Fireman's Landing has a lot of rides packed in, which makes it feel a little carnival-ish, but there's also tons of detail and theming.

Time Traveler apparently ran over budget, so the station exterior and bottom floor are a bit disappointing, but the upper levels and the trains are very cool. It also has a rich backstory and lots of detail for those who care to pay attention. The name itself is pretty generic.

So all in all, SDC has a good track record and deserves all the benefit of the doubt as usual. We always wring our hands about the theme being hampered, but they always deliver a good product. Even if the name is generic, I am expecting it to look really nice and have a fun back=story theme that us fans can appreciate.

Lost River wasn't exactly themed that much anyway. Might have been some stuff hanging in the queue line that I have forgotten, but I don't remember anything that stood out. The theme was just a river that sucks into a cave. If they have some kind of cave theme or element with the new ride, it will be a nice homage/continuation of the theme.

Shave, As for TT. I bet 1 in 1000 riders actually know that there is a backstory involved. I know they produced a little video during the announcement. But, to me theming involves more than hanging some props in a Queu line and calling it theming. I am talking FM, FITh hole totally immersive theming. Like a Disney or Universal. With what Herschend is doing now I do not call that theming. Going back to OR. Throw a few clocks in the line and play a cowboy sound clip and call it good. I asked my kids about the theme and they had no clue. Just that it was a great roller coaster. I feel we are headed to Dollywood land bit by bit.  I understand what they are doing but sad to see the immersive theming go. I will just enjoy it for what it is.

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Re: SDC's 2020 Project(s) and Park Developments
« Reply #97 on: December 12, 2018, 04:10:12 PM »
LR was originally themed to PoncÚ de Leon's search for the Fountain of Youth, though nearly no one would have known that with the few photos or news articles hanging in frames in the queue.  The Lost River, had he found it, would have led to that final room which was begging for a scene of some sort about the Fountain of Youth.

All of the theming was thrown to the wayside before the ride even ripened.  Water cannons were added for some added revenue, and some never-explained heartbeat was added until Lost River became a River with an entirely Lost Theme of the Ozarks.
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« Reply #98 on: December 12, 2018, 05:32:37 PM »
Now that I think about it, I never did really get what the heartbeat sound or whatever that sound was supposed to be that played inside the building.  I would still have preferred they kept that ride.

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« Reply #99 on: December 13, 2018, 08:14:14 AM »
The heartbeat was leftover from Rube Dugans. To my knowledge, it was supposed to be the "oxygen" pump for the submarine. The same is used at the Flooded mine.
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« Reply #100 on: December 13, 2018, 09:15:05 AM »
The heartbeat was leftover from Rube Dugans. To my knowledge, it was supposed to be the "oxygen" pump for the submarine. The same is used at the Flooded mine.

LOL>   Thats the answer to that concern.,.!!   LOL

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« Reply #101 on: December 13, 2018, 06:12:01 PM »
The heartbeat was leftover from Rube Dugans. To my knowledge, it was supposed to be the "oxygen" pump for the submarine. The same is used at the Flooded mine.

Wow I never made the connection between the LR heartbeat sound and the FM sound.