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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project (Thread #2)
« on: September 14, 2019, 02:05:12 PM »
About Lake Silver...

On the lake, add a water fountain show complete with  choreographing to Dueling Ban........err, Ozarkian Music. 5 minute show on top and bottom of the hour.  This was quite common in Europe from Palace Gardens to theme parks. Older folk crowd pleasers they are.  Puy du Fou had a smaller one on a lake/pond about the size of the former Lake Silver.

While that would be nice, I donít see how they would make any return on investing in that. I doubt anyone would go to SDC just to see the fountains, especially when the Landing has fountains for free. So I donít think the park would see any benefit in investing in a fountain show. Also I feel like a fountain show would be difficult to see having MRF or FL in the background most likely and would create more crowd issues with people stopping along the path to see the show.

You know how many times i go the landing  or down 76 when I go to SDC, 1 out of  20 if that.  It is not relevant.

Not my point. I was saying that if you wanted to see a fountain show, you could go to the landing. I doubt anyone would decide to go to SDC or not based on a fountain show when they can go to one for free. Therefore, while a fountain show maybe wouldnít cost much, it would likely cost more than it would make SDC.

However, a night show could keep people in the park spending money during certain times of the year, and provide another show to keep crowds smaller on the "streets".  I imagine Disney wouldn't have its evening light, laser, drone, etc. shows if they weren't making a profit on them.

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2019 Trip Reports
« on: September 14, 2019, 09:56:07 AM »
We're headed that way tomorrow (Sunday).

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project (Thread #2)
« on: September 14, 2019, 09:49:32 AM »
About Lake Silver...

On the lake, add a water fountain show complete with  choreographing to Dueling Ban........err, Ozarkian Music. 5 minute show on top and bottom of the hour.  This was quite common in Europe from Palace Gardens to theme parks. Older folk crowd pleasers they are.  Puy du Fou had a smaller one on a lake/pond about the size of the former Lake Silver.

While that would be nice, I donít see how they would make any return on investing in that. I doubt anyone would go to SDC just to see the fountains, especially when the Landing has fountains for free. So I donít think the park would see any benefit in investing in a fountain show. Also I feel like a fountain show would be difficult to see having MRF or FL in the background most likely and would create more crowd issues with people stopping along the path to see the show.

You know how many times i go the landing  or down 76 when I go to SDC, 1 out of  20 if that.  It is not relevant.

Anywho, I did some YouTube digging and this was found for the Puy du Fou pond with a fountain show. Obviously, Lake Sliver would be more compact. It was just a thought, kinda like the area needing a flat.

https://youtu.be/HO8ZrExRPXs

I always wondered why they didn't bring some form of the laser/fountain show from CC to Lake Silver or the other side of the lake, set up some seating and do a short show a couple of times after dark.

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lol, bunch of theatre critics here.

Iíve been a season ticket holder at the Fabulous Fox in St. Louis for 4 seasons now.  After seeing close to 60 different Broadway shows in my lifetime, Iíd definitely classify myself as a critic / connoisseur

I won't go into my credentials, but I'll accept the role of critic.

This show wasn't going for corny.  It was simply flat and disjointed.  Sadly, it tried to hard to be too many things.

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Wow.  The other nominees must have been horrible for Reuben to beat them.

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Other Parks / Re: Frontier City Developments
« on: August 29, 2019, 09:52:37 AM »
In 1981 Herschend Family Entertainment expanded outside Branson MO for the first time. They built a large water park in the Oklahoma City Metro area called White Water Bay. That name stayed when Six Flags bought the park in the 90's.  It continued to stay White Water Bay as the park saw numerous owners up and till today. Any ties that park had from the Herschend's era is now gone.   Six Flags now manages the park again and this morning announced the park is being re-branded with a new name. Six Flags Hurricane Harbor  Oklahoma City.   A new slide complex will be added to the park with park wide upgrades and additions for the 2020 season.

Actually the "Bay" part of the name was added when HFE sold it.

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Other Parks / Re: Frontier City Developments
« on: August 26, 2019, 03:25:57 PM »
Driving this morning and on the radio Frontier City advertisement came on for the start of the 2020 Season Pass Flash Sale.  In that advertisement clear as day White Water Bay getting a name change for 2020.  WWB name is getting changed to Six Flags Hurricane Harbor Oklahoma City.  So this tells me the major capitol money is going to White Water Bay for 2020.

Finally!  The change to WWB was always a ridiculous choice.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project (Thread #2)
« on: August 26, 2019, 09:36:28 AM »
Back to the topic, folks.  We can disagree about future plans and tastes, but this thread is only about 2020, and we don't need to get personal, and high school band students should not get caught in your crosshairs.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project (Thread #2)
« on: August 17, 2019, 10:18:23 AM »
Howís it any different than using Landing or Exposition? (Hint: Itís not)

Huge difference.  The latter two are often found in cities, while a town has its own local government (as does a city).  Cities and towns may be adjacent to one another, but are not a part of each other.

It may be a silly thing to point out, and I may be nitpicking, I'll concede that much.


Oh youíre definitely nitpicking, thereís no doubt about that. 
If itíll help you sleep at night, just think of Rivertown being unincorporated and under the jurisdiction of the Silver Dollar City township or borough

I go where my talents lie.  :P

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project (Thread #2)
« on: August 16, 2019, 09:30:02 PM »
Howís it any different than using Landing or Exposition? (Hint: Itís not)

Huge difference.  The latter two are often found in cities, while a town has its own local government (as does a city).  Cities and towns may be adjacent to one another, but are not a part of each other.

It may be a silly thing to point out, and I may be nitpicking, I'll concede that much.

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I just think the whole thing looked so industrial at the time that it wouldn't have fit with the surrounding area.  It could be done today, though, because the park is going in a whole different direction.  I can imagine that the whole thing would have been heavily air conditioned and exceedingly fun to ride.

As far as reviving the idea, I don't see planners looking to accomplish that level of quirky theming any time in the near future.  I also don't look for MRF to have everything that's included in the concept art; I hope I am wrong.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project (Thread #2)
« on: August 16, 2019, 04:02:56 PM »
The previous thread seems to have glitched, so I began a new one.  If Shave can figure it out, we can go back to the original thread, but until then, here's the last thing I posted to kick us off:

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It is interesting that the Riverfront Playhouse was mentioned in the live feed.  I'm glad to hear it will stay - hopefully for a long time.

As for MRF, I'm seeing a giant rock sculpture of a human head somewhere in the concept art that makes this like something other than Ozarkian in nature and more like a generic jungle raft ride.  Otherwise, I think it will make a great replacement for LR.  I never was a great fan of LR (and yes, I really want to revive the Dugan theme).

but I would love to see more of a WoF-style carousel or conveyor-style load on this ride.  They really haven't addressed this as far as I've seen, so I assume there will be a stop and load station.

The change to Rivertown makes me feel a little strange.  I guess it's something like going to China Town, but still being in Los Angeles.  I hope there is some great music chosen for the whole area - and appropriate, themed shows for the stages in the area.

So you saying the ribhouse will have fried rice, peking duck and lo mein..Hot Dog! (Whoops). A

I just thought it was weird having a "town" in the middle of a "city".  I'm not sure why Riverfront wasn't used; that rebranding probably could have been accomplished without a name change.

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Construction/Rumors / SDC's 2020 Project (Thread #2)
« on: August 15, 2019, 08:23:56 PM »
The previous thread seems to have glitched, so I began a new one.  If Shave can figure it out, we can go back to the original thread, but until then, here's the last thing I posted to kick us off:

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It is interesting that the Riverfront Playhouse was mentioned in the live feed.  I'm glad to hear it will stay - hopefully for a long time.

As for MRF, I'm seeing a giant rock sculpture of a human head somewhere in the concept art that makes this like something other than Ozarkian in nature and more like a generic jungle raft ride.  Otherwise, I think it will make a great replacement for LR.  I never was a great fan of LR (and yes, I really want to revive the Dugan theme).

but I would love to see more of a WoF-style carousel or conveyor-style load on this ride.  They really haven't addressed this as far as I've seen, so I assume there will be a stop and load station.

The change to Rivertown makes me feel a little strange.  I guess it's something like going to China Town, but still being in Los Angeles.  I hope there is some great music chosen for the whole area - and appropriate, themed shows for the stages in the area.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDCís 2021 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: August 15, 2019, 08:23:11 PM »
FYI I think the 2020 thread got broken. I see someone posted but I can't seem to load the latest page.

I tried to manipulate it, but it didn't work.  I went at it from a previous page and forwarded to the last page.  I can see it that way, but the last page still does not allow me to add a reply.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: August 15, 2019, 08:18:59 PM »
I'm trying something to get the 2020 thread to work again.  It doesn't want to work, so I went back to a previous page and replied.  Here is the last thing I added:

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It is interesting that the Riverfront Playhouse was mentioned in the live feed.  I'm glad to hear it will stay - hopefully for a long time.

As for MRF, I'm seeing a giant rock sculpture of a human head somewhere in the concept art that makes this like something other than Ozarkian in nature and more like a generic jungle raft ride.  Otherwise, I think it will make a great replacement for LR.  I never was a great fan of LR (and yes, I really want to revive the Dugan theme).

but I would love to see more of a WoF-style carousel or conveyor-style load on this ride.  They really haven't addressed this as far as I've seen, so I assume there will be a stop and load station.

The change to Rivertown makes me feel a little strange.  I guess it's something like going to China Town, but still being in Los Angeles.  I hope there is some great music chosen for the whole area - and appropriate, themed shows for the stages in the area.

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