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Indian stuff

Started by How-doFolks, August 01, 2010, 07:34:38 AM

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How-doFolks

My girl is french indian & we got to thinkin - how come SDC doesnt have any attractions that are themed with indians? Cuz we all know back in the 1800s they had to deal with indians alot. We have found afew gifts & stuff that are indian related, but not much else.

What ya all think? Have a ride called The Scalper! Or, have a show & call it The Teepee Smoke Signals Show!  :D I love my imagination..
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betamike

Ummmm....because I'm pretty sure that would be a Public Relations nightmare.   :P

In all honesty though, there are several tribes that would have been living in and around the area.  In fact, I am part Crow Indian from my great grandmother who was full blooded and she grew up in Northwest Arkansas. 

I just think that you aren't going to be able to respectively portray the true nature if those 1800's relationships in today's society.  Their attitudes back then would have probably been less...civil.

I do agree that the local nations should have some sort of representation, but it needs to be done tastefully. 
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History Buff

It would have to be on tribal terms, with little to no SDC control over message.  You're right, it would not be able to portray true attitudes of those times.  I wanted to have a canoe dark ride based on the area tribes, and including the tale of the fellow falling into Marvel with the bear.  I originally pictured this as a "small world"-type ride, with its own awesome soundtrack.

A couple or three years ago there were some Indian presentations, including hoop dancing.  It was unusual to see them in the main gazebo; I think there should have been a whole different arena for this type show and currently SDC does not have the appropriate area - though perhaps the waterfall and surrounding area would work.
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Junior

Funny you should mention Indians at SDC...I saved from the scrapheap a little picture in a cardboard frame  of the "First Indian Citizen of Silver Dollar City." This prop was used at the Jim Owens' Float Trip ride, and it hung on a wall in the mill. When you went into the float trip, you crossed a little bridge into the mill, there was a counter there in the early days where you had your ticket punched, and then a short staircase to the back door and across another bridge over the channel to get to the loading dock. In the mill, in a nook above where nobody could get to it, was a desk, and a sign in front of it said "Jim Owens' Float Trip Office." on the wall were a couple of pictures...one was of the 1st Indian Citizen of SDC, the other was a float trip chart or graph where river guides were to sign upfor trips. Both of these items were far too small for any guests to even see, because they could not get close to them. However, if you look at the picture on my Flickr site, you will notice how the SDC artist touched up a picture page pulled from a magazine, and embellished the medal around his neck to read "Silver Dollar City, MO, 1885." To me, the attention to detail to a little picture that the guests could not even see clearly is evidence that in years past that detail was so good, and unfortunately, is not always there today.  I saved both the Indian picture and the float trip guide graph/chart when the ride was torn out and the American Plunge was put in. The mill was closed to the public, the props pulled out of it and stored or dumped. The mill was used for a few years as a break room for the Plunge employees, but is closed off now even to them. The back side of the float trip chart/graph thing was an old sign from pre-SDC days that read "Marvel Cave Park, Branson, MO." I'm glad I saved those two items, because I'm sure they would have wound up in the dumpster. The float trip chart/graph is too large to scan on my home computer, so the 1st Indian Citizen picture is what is on Flickr. (By the way, the printing on the backside of the picture says the picture is really of a man called "Red Jacket" who was a leader in the Seneca tribe.)

    See the 1st Indian Citizen of SDC Picture at:  http://wwwl.flickr.com/photos/juniordugan
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Junior

Whoops: Try the Indian picture again here:

                               http://www.flickr.com/photos/juniordugan
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How-doFolks

Sweet.. Thanks for post'n that Junior!
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Joy

I would love to see a full-blown pow-wow type show done for World Fest. Technically, the Native American tribes are completely different nations from the USA, so would fit in perfectly as part of World Fest. I went to a real pow-wow last fall here at MSU and omg it was so amazingly awesome! A fry bread stand during World Fest would be uber-amazing.

I'd love to see some sort of tastefully done tribute/ride/whatever to the Native Americans who first discovered and named the cave Devil's Den.

Firstvisit1967

By the 1880's their were very few tribes left in Missouri. Most Native Americans were forced to leave Missouri during the Indian Removals of the 1800's. These tribes are not extinct, but except for the descendants of Missouri Indians who escaped from Removal, they do not live in Missouri anymore. They were moved to Indian reservations in Oklahoma instead.  Many of these tribes have few if any who speak their language left.  The Osage Indians were the strongest of the tribes in Southwest Missouri

Firstvisit1967

Does everyone remember the train ride robbery when a whole tribe of Injuns was about to swoop down on the train.

History Buff

How does that timeline go?

1)  Injuns!!!
2)  Yankees!!!
3)  ???
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betamike

Quote from: History Buff on August 01, 2010, 09:02:00 PM
How does that timeline go?

1)  Injuns!!!
2)  Yankees!!!
3)  ???

Unicorns!
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rubedugans

Unicorns...nice

Leprechauns next maybe?

Zephon

Actually...back in the 70's, there was an Indian family, husband and wife I believe, that would come to the City during the Fall Crafts Festival.  They set up a tepee on the little triangular patch of ground right in front of the Leather Shop.  If I remember correctly, they demonstrated making arrowheads and tanning hides.  They were there for a number of years.
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okiebluegrass

<soapbox>
The Indian joke was good, cause back then Cleveland was perennial cellar dweller of the Old AL East.
Now they're in the Central and my beloved Royals have assumed that position.
The Yankee joke would be better if they were in last place where they belong.
My two favorite teams are the Royals and whoever is playing the NY Yankees.

Political correctness if the Devil
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