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Re: SDC's 2020 Project(s) and Park Developments
« Reply #180 on: February 26, 2019, 10:23:08 PM »
It seems like a lot of parks claim that their rapids rides were built "in-house" even if they are technically Intamin rides. I wonder if it's because with rapids rides you have to do most of the work through a local contractor team rather than ordering track from a manufacturer. Intamin probably just provides boats, lifts, operating systems, and such, leaving the park to build all of the trough and install everything.

In any case, I'm glad they are testing it now and hopefully working the kinks out instead of having an Infinity Falls fiasco.

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Re: SDC's 2020 Project(s) and Park Developments
« Reply #181 on: February 27, 2019, 12:02:43 PM »
Well FWIW, the slide parts appear to match the Infinity Falls slide exactly. 

Shave, youíre probably correct with your assumptions but Iím going off what theyíre saying
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Re: SDC's 2020 Project(s) and Park Developments
« Reply #182 on: March 04, 2019, 01:09:03 PM »
It seems like a lot of parks claim that their rapids rides were built "in-house" even if they are technically Intamin rides. I wonder if it's because with rapids rides you have to do most of the work through a local contractor team rather than ordering track from a manufacturer. Intamin probably just provides boats, lifts, operating systems, and such, leaving the park to build all of the trough and install everything.


That's pretty much exactly the case.  Intamin or another company will provide the mechanics of the ride- the boats, station systems and such, but the course layout, design, obstacles to create the rapids, drops and other such things are usually done by the parks themselves.  They'll work together with the ride company to make sure that it's all going to actually work, but the park will do the vast majority of that other work on their own.
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« Reply #183 on: March 04, 2019, 02:21:56 PM »
It seems like a lot of parks claim that their rapids rides were built "in-house" even if they are technically Intamin rides. I wonder if it's because with rapids rides you have to do most of the work through a local contractor team rather than ordering track from a manufacturer. Intamin probably just provides boats, lifts, operating systems, and such, leaving the park to build all of the trough and install everything.


That's pretty much exactly the case.  Intamin or another company will provide the mechanics of the ride- the boats, station systems and such, but the course layout, design, obstacles to create the rapids, drops and other such things are usually done by the parks themselves.  They'll work together with the ride company to make sure that it's all going to actually work, but the park will do the vast majority of that other work on their own.


In all fairness (and not to take away from parks employees and their time involved), the park will be hiring sub contractors to do most of the work..
The demo (park doesnt own that equip)
Haul off debris,
Haul in fill material,
set elevations and prep ground work,
actual pouring of concrete,
Actual assembly of new station and launch area,
water pumps and all the piping to make it work,
Electrical..
....the park just does not own this type of equipment, and i doubt if they have enough "trained" employees to do this type of construction.  Now, can they help?  YES,  can they do some of the construction?  YES.    Will the park oversee the project? I am sure yes..    But the majority o the "heavy work" will be hired out

AND again, I am not taking anything away from the guys at the park.. they do a great job, fixing, repairing, prepping, designing, lots of ideas.  They will No doubt help ALOT..   They have a BIG job, with lots of responsilbilty,  but they just are not set up to do this job themselves...



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« Reply #184 on: March 04, 2019, 08:15:01 PM »
So the park is basically the general contractor with subcontractors completing most of the work.

I look at it like the project that I'm currently working on for the Oklahoma Turnpike Authority.

1. There was an engineer/architect that designed the project (compare to Intamin).
2. A general contractor won the bid, but they are not specialist in the type work required, so they have hired subcontractors to take care of all the main work (Compare to Silver Dollar City being the Owner/Builder).
3. Subcontractors include: electrical, structural, signing, carpentry, finishing, paving, etc.
4. There are also a long list of suppliers providing steel, tolling facilities, lighting, etc.
5. The General Contractor (Silver Dollar City) is overseeing everything and running the construction, but the majority of the work is being done by others.

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« Reply #185 on: March 04, 2019, 08:22:26 PM »
So the park is basically the general contractor with subcontractors completing most of the work.

I look at it like the project that I'm currently working on for the Oklahoma Turnpike Authority.

1. There was an engineer/architect that designed the project (compare to Intamin).
2. A general contractor won the bid, but they are not specialist in the type work required, so they have hired subcontractors to take care of all the main work (Compare to Silver Dollar City being the Owner/Builder).
3. Subcontractors include: electrical, structural, signing, carpentry, finishing, paving, etc.
4. There are also a long list of suppliers providing steel, tolling facilities, lighting, etc.
5. The General Contractor (Silver Dollar City) is overseeing everything and running the construction, but the majority of the work is being done by others.

Jay

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« Reply #186 on: March 05, 2019, 02:47:35 PM »
I know that the Lost River Rebuild  is the big news for 2020.  But there is something even bigger going on in 2020. 2020 will be the parks 60th anniversary. I am wondering if they will celebrate like the 50th or let the new ride be the star of the year ?
Maybe since it is not a milestone anniversary it may pass without much fanfare but I will bet that some serious marketing will happen to celebrate.


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« Reply #187 on: March 07, 2019, 06:32:10 PM »
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« Reply #188 on: March 07, 2019, 07:47:00 PM »
Depending on how it goes for Dollywood this season, I also suspect that 2020 will bring tiered Season Pass levels to SDC.

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« Reply #189 on: March 07, 2019, 08:16:21 PM »
DW has always had tiered passes as long as I can remember.  This isnít a new thing.  And no I donít see SDC doing this.  DW has the luxury of having their Waterpark literally next door AND a real resort.  SDC doesnít have that
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« Reply #190 on: March 07, 2019, 09:53:52 PM »
Actually now that I look at it closer, the Gold pass is really just bundling in parking. So not really any different than the SDC Pass + parking other than some additional discounts. Dollywood just markets it differently.
False alarm on me thinking that it was a true tiered pass system.

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« Reply #191 on: March 13, 2019, 05:58:05 PM »
FYI, there is already some trough for the new Lost River in place.  Itís directly behind the fence across from Dockside Theatre.  Youíll note how close it is to the main midway. 
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« Reply #192 on: March 13, 2019, 06:52:00 PM »
FYI, there is already some trough for the new Lost River in place.  Itís directly behind the fence across from Dockside Theatre.  Youíll note how close it is to the main midway.


Thats a little surprising.. 
that area must be ok for elevation and water flow already... 
the rest of the area will take quite a bit of time to get finished up...

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« Reply #193 on: March 14, 2019, 06:25:28 PM »
Photos from today are all posted.  I just did a real quick passthrough on them- a few crops and that's about it.  You can see everything- lots of construction, but also a good number around the park as well- on my photo site at:https://sirwillow.smugmug.com/Amusement-Parks-Roller/Silver-Dollar-City/14-March-2019-Opening-Week/
I'm in the process of rendering the video now, so I'm actually optimisted that I may have it posted and live in about an hour and a half to 2 hours.  Depending on how fast my computer decides to work.  :-)
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« Reply #194 on: March 14, 2019, 08:26:13 PM »
Looks like it's going to be a really slow upload for some reason.  So look for the video on my YouTube channel tomorrow morning
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