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Quote from: BackInTime9Beyond an attraction to cool off during the dead of summer, can someone please help me understand what the novelty, or allure is with spending millions of dollars on a river rapids ride in 2020? So Infinity Falls has a unique loading and lift system and a 40 foot drop? Not sure I get the wow factor. Not trying to be a pessimist, but even that doesn't feel like anything revolutionary to an already relatively mundane ride concept. Is this simply a necessary evil for the PTB in terms of keeping a people eater in the center of the park for the dog days when it's filled to capacity and many welcome any refuge from the elements they can find? If and only if this took shape in a highly themed way, a la Disney's Kali River Rapids, then I could get on board. Have no doubt whatever fills the space will look nice, but without anything thematic in terms of the ride experience, it's just going to be another river rapids ride, even if it has a state-of-the-art lift system and an underwhelming drop of over 40 ft that puts into the "tallest" category.
LR was due for a very expensive rehab. The ride system they had was lacking several modern safety measures and was far from being ADA compliant. The trough was losing a lot water every day due to large cracks that it had occurred over the years due to neglect and a couple earthquakes.
As far as you not personally getting the “wow factor” - you’re not the target audience so that’s to be expected.
It’s a little early in the process for the outrage in the rest of your post as nothing has been made public.
Let’s pump the breaks for now and wait for the process to play out. You got two years to worry yet.
Swoosh, what is your confidence level in the speculation that LOR is being truly being razed for a new water attraction versus something else? As you pointed out with your recent pictures, with Lake Silver gone (even if temporarily), that is a very large footprint capable of accommodating just about anything HFEC would want to put there. Also, outside of retaining natural aesthetics, what value would incorporating a newer Lake Silver hold? This is awfully valuable real estate to have a lake with no purpose. I'm not insinuating anything. As long as we're still speculating, I'm simply wondering if the entire cleared footprint will be utilized for whatever attraction is in the works for '20, or they're clearing everything to make way for the attraction, which will include some newer iteration of Lake Silver, if that makes sense.
98% sure and about 80% sure it’ll be like Infinity Falls.
New LR is only a small part of this new project. They’re being very tight lipped on what’ll happen eventually around Riverfront Playhouse. They don’t refer to it as “the most valuable land in the park” for nothing
Actually to be balanced there needs to be a big ride back in GE and/or FL
Off topic a bit, I will chime in and say there apparently will be big changes to the SDC classics over the next 5 years from what me and Shave heard while at the media event. One being major changes to Flooded Mine come next year as more of the structure is coming down. People might or might not be happy with the coming changes.
More to be elaborated on in the future development thread later on.
As for the coaster reactions and publicity I am loving some of the ones I have been seeing on social media from the GP. Some of the best ones can be found on KY3's Facebook page. They are downright hilarious.
Helix
$30 million
Height – 135 ft.
Length – 4,531 ft.
Speed – 62mph
Inversions – 7
LSM's – Two
Time Traveler
$26 million
Height - 100 ft.
Length – 3020
Speed – 50.3
Inversions –3
LSM's – 2
Helix has escalators to get to the queue building for gosh sake. In the grand scheme of things, they're about equal.
Doubt it. If that proves to be the case, then the folks at Liseberg paid a few million bucks for a couple escalators.
I know this post will probably get buried with all the discussion on the new ride but for those interested, here are some photo highlights from today. Got photos and video of the ceremony and as a bonus we also got to tour the station AND the coaster itself.
FULL ALBUM FROM TODAY IS HERE
If anyone thinks the "controlled spinning" on TT is going to be more tame than this on any level, I think you're kidding yourself. I just scanned the comments from SDC's official announcement on FB and I would say at least 25-33% of the comments echo the concerns about spinning and being bummed about never getting on the ride.
I think you need to go back to the video and listen to Brad Thomas' comments about the spinning. What you're talking about on Spinning Dragons is EXACTLY what Brad said he DOESN'T want on the coaster- free, fast spinning that can get people sick. Much to much spinning, much to fast, and this will NOT do that. It is a very slow rotation that has built in brake controls so that it can not spin fast. This has no chance of getting you dizzy or disoriented anymore than any other coaster because of how slow they are going to allow the cars to spin.
I understand your fears, but I don't think you're understanding the limits they are putting on the rotating that will prevent what you are afraid of.
I hope we get more theming than was presented in the video. And while it won't effect me, I do think SDC will face an uphill battle in marketing to people who do not like spinning. I think the controlled spin will definitely help and the animation didn't look out of control to me. It just looks more like a turning motion than spinning. I think everyone should give it a chance before immediately shooting it down.
This looks like a great addition to the park and will offer something completely different from anything they have. I can't wait for 2018 to come to enjoy this amazing new addition. Three inversions, two launches, that first drop! Looks crazy and fun to me!
The animation doesn't show any spinning at all beyond the inversions. It just shows a traditional rider POV.
You can see the spinning in the animation. I wasn't just talking about the POV.
