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Random Talk / Re: Tell Me Something Good!
« on: September 14, 2017, 08:51:24 PM »
We were notified by WDW that our choir has been accepted to perform at the Epcot Candlelight Processional on Dec 2nd.  Whoppi Goldberg will be the narrator.  Super excited and happy for my kids.

that is absolutely, incredibly awesome!!  Candlelight was one of my favorite parts of Christmas at WDW.  It's going to be an incredible experience for everyone!

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2018 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: September 14, 2017, 09:25:12 AM »
Awesome pics

Thought as I was viewing them.....has the park every had any issues with wildlife around the rides?  I'd assume the fencing would keep out the larger creatures (deer, humans).  But Id hate to think about what might happen to a random squirrel.

There have certainly been times where animals have come into the park and affected the rides.  it's rare, but it does happen.

Had a bobcat around the train station one morning when I was cleaning that slowed me up a bit (still opened on time)
Know of a time they found a kitten inside of Electro Spin that closed it down for a while.
At least a couple of times they had deer jump into the Lost River and had to shut it down in order to get them out.
Train has hit a couple of animals, like groundhogs, that crossed the tracks (I'll spare you the details on that)

so it's not unheard of for some of the wildlife to occasionally affect the rides and operations.  Though with TT being where it is by Echo Hollow and the road, I think it's much less likely there than on the other side of the park closer to the woods.

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I don't think there's anything over ten years old in the park that is really off the potential chopping block anymore, save for the really big modern rides.

Sadly, I agree with that statement.  With one exception- the train.  After their major investment in new engines, I'd say the train is pretty safe for at least several years.  The robbery I'm not as confident about, but at least the ride itself isn't going anywhere.

Other than that, I'm afraid for a lot of the old classics that make SDC what it is, and have been for a while.

I am interested in what they asked about the Homestead, School, Wilderness Church and Grandfather's Mansion  though.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: September 14, 2017, 09:15:44 AM »
Personally I think a much larger drop tower or a star flyer would be a great addition.  I'd also love to see them turn the old Waterboggan tower into an observation tower of some sort, to let people up to enjoy the view of the Ozarks.  I certainly wouldn't consider a ride like that an eyesore, but more of a landmark.

Or am I alone in getting excited when I spot something from a theme/ amusement park before I get there?  :-)

(Swoosh- no, I wasn't trying to be argumentative any more than chittlins was.  Just making a point that your preference already really doesn't really exist)

While probably unlikely since it would offer a similar ride experience to Time Traveler minus the spinning, SDC really has an opportunity here to capitalize on their relationship with Mack by reviving the Mystery Mine concept that was once talked about years ago before the recession killed it. I really think they could pull off a superior version using their Big Dipper trains.

My biggest problem with Mystery Mine was how rough the first half of it was.  It was an incredible ride- especially the theming around it.  But I was focused so much on not getting slammed around and hurt that I felt like I missed a bunch of it. The second half was much better.  The big dipper trains certainly look like they would fix that issue.  For those that haven't seen them, you can see them at: https://mack-rides.com/products/rollercoaster/bigdipper/

To do Mystery Mine with that kind of train would be awesome!  it's to bad that they couldn't replace the trains on Mystery Mine itself with something like that.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: September 13, 2017, 09:52:36 AM »
As long as the ride cannot be seen from other parts of the park or outside the park then I'm fine with any of those except the woodie.  Personal preference there.

They've already got a number of rides you can see from outside of the park.  If you're coming from Branson West then Wildfire and Outlaw Run are easy to see, just because of the height.  You can see them and Powder Keg easily from the parking lots and Indian Point Road as well.  Unfortunately, anything with any sort of height is going to be seen outside of the park and provide a view outside as well.  That's the nature of the beast.

You can also see outside the park quite clearly on the train as it's approaching it's back loop, looking down onto Table Rock and some of the resorts and apartments that are down there.  there are numerous other areas you can see outside as well if you pay a little attention.  As an example, the Dollar General up the road is quite easy to spot in at least 5 places within the park that I'm aware of, especially when it's dark.

I agree that it would a nice thing to have the berm idea like Disney cutting it off from the outside world, but it's not practical.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: Ride Survey 09.11.17
« on: September 13, 2017, 09:48:08 AM »

different terminology might make a difference on how the public perceives this new ride.    I am surprised how many people on different sites are saying they will NEVER ride it because it spins and drops....
even though it is a controlled spin.. 
I would think wait until it is complete, go check it out, then make a decision...

You can see that even among some of our own posters here who are freaking out thinking it's going to spin like tea cups do, and making them sick- just based on that one word.  It's one reason why, fairly quickly after the announcement, I quit saying spin and started saying "rotate."  Revolve may be another word that works.  There is just an image when you use the word spin that conjures fast, uncontrolled spinning, and I think they are wise to realize now that it is a word and image they want to get away from as it seems to scare people away who would otherwise love the ride.

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Other Parks / Re: Wonders of Wildlife opens Sept 22nd....
« on: September 08, 2017, 01:16:32 PM »
It took Mr. Bass Pro less than two years after he finally got off the pot to transform the Pyramid in Memphis to a store and hotel. It has been opened for two years and this place STILL isn't officially Open. And...at the prices he is wanting it best be special.

For an aquarium of this size the prices are actually right around "normal" and pretty much on the same level as other similar places.  Not much different than the price of a show in Branson.

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Other Parks / Re: Wonders of Wildlife opens Sept 22nd....
« on: September 08, 2017, 09:52:20 AM »
In other news.......Hell froze over

It's not open yet!  there's still time for them to decide to keep it closed for more work.  lol

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: Silver Dollar City Record
« on: September 04, 2017, 09:25:53 AM »
Which flea market?  where?  I'm sure someone here will want to go get it if they can
(sorry, I don't have any answers to your actual question though.)

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Ok, that is really really cool.  I would love to do that one sometime!

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Dollywood Discussion / Re: Dollywood 2018
« on: August 23, 2017, 10:13:06 AM »

I don't see SDC's Tom and Huck River Blast disappearing soon

Yet another Dollywood quick yank. Timber Tower, Adventure Mountain, and now River Battle right at just 10 years old.

That said,  a Mack Powersplash may replace it and spell doom for Daredevil Falls as well.

Yeah, this one surprises me a bit.  The topper tower needed to go as it rarely worked right, sadly.  I think it's replacement was well done.  Adventure mountain- essentially a rope course that only a few would get to do, almost seemed like a placeholder until they were able to get Firechaser Express built.- something to fill in the hole that otherwise would have been there.

Not sure why they're removing River Battle.  it was interesting riding it when we were there.  The squirt guns on it don't have the range that the ones at SDC do, and they're harder to work.  Not as many targets to you got nowhere near as wet as you do at SDC. 

I'd hate to see Daredevil Falls go.  That was a great ride.

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Dollywood Discussion / Re: Dollywood 2018
« on: August 22, 2017, 01:38:27 PM »
... and just as soon as I post that nothing is coming, DW announces that their river battle is closing soon and that more announcements are on the way concerning future projects...

Interesting choice.  Depending on what they do, that can be a pretty large area to work with. 

Funny reading the comments on Facebook about it.  Either "It was our favorite ride" or the ridiculous, "I hated that ride.  Some grown man shot my child in the face and got them wet.  How could someone be that evil?" and variations on that them.  SMH  at the melodrama.

The Fireman's Landing idea would be interesting, but I wouldn't be surprised if they put in some more food choices/ stores/ things to keep people hanging around more.  There's some on that side of the park, but it's still a bit light since it's the newer area of the park.  Wild Eagle also wouldn't fit in well with that theme, and it's sitting in between Firechaser and where River Battle is now.  I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than one thing though.

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Dollywood Discussion / Re: Lighting Rod's Continued Issues
« on: August 22, 2017, 01:29:33 PM »
Just one train though, correct?  Seems that if they only one train they have minimal issues, once they try to run two trains then LR throws a fit.

Yes, one train. We were also there on a Wednesday where they didn't really need more than one train.  But I've heard the same thing about if they try to go with 2 trains.

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at the end of the day the company invests in what they think will work for the specific target at each location.

We are fortunate that HFEC is still investing so much into Branson.

with the fading of the Branson theaters and rise of more basic ride-based attractions it is in danger of falling back into being a regional attraction like the Wisconsin Dells.


Good thoughts Shave.

I think the three statements I quoted say a lot- about what's real, about what we don't necessarily like to be real, and about what we're afraid of.  There's a lot of truth in them, some that we don't like to admit or want to face.  I know I don't like them, but I can't disagree with them.

I'm hoping that in the long run the last 2 statements end up being completely wrong and we see the opposite happen.

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Dollywood Discussion / Re: Whats Dollywood like?
« on: August 22, 2017, 12:09:49 PM »
If you're still interested, I have a video that will be posted in a couple of hours that shows our day at Dollywood.
https://youtu.be/0LDJy9nU4-w

  It'll give you a little bit of a look at the park.  I've also got a bunch of photos of it posted at:
https://sirwillow.smugmug.com/Amusement-Parks-Roller/Eastern-US/Dollywood-TN-Aug-4-20107

I would agree somewhat with Shave on the park.  It does have more rides.  It also has more entertainment than SDC does right now.  SDC has been in the habit the last few years of cutting back their non-festival entertainment, street troupe, and wandering characters.  Dollywood had more of all of that when we were there than SDC.  With at least 7 theaters, plus at least 2 museums, that's not hard for them to do.

The newer areas don't feel as "filled in" yet, but I think that's due as much to the time for the trees to grow in as anything.  Expo at SDC is finally starting to feel that way now, with the trees.  And Thunderhead Gap at Dollywood is on a similar time frame.  Give Timber Canyon and Wilderness Pass a few more years and they'll get there.  (BTW, both of them have more shops and dining available in them than either Grand Expo or Firemans's Landing, which, IMO I feel look at least as "cheap" as Wilderness Pass.  But that's just me)

I will say that SDC right now is better at preserving the history- the train robbery, Flooded Mine, Fire in the Hole, Grandfather's Mansion.  And I think there are people dedicated to keeping that.  I hope that continues.  One thing Dollywood doesn't have is classics from it's past left like that.

Which would I pick?  Honestly, I don't know.  There is a lot I love about both parks.  But if SDC continues on the path of letting it's past go away, the more it does that the more I lean towards Dollywood.  Which really hurts me to say that.

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