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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2021 Crowds/Trip Reports
« on: November 16, 2021, 08:44:33 AM »
Had an enjoyable three day visit for OTC that just wrapped up. I didn't 100% love old Dickens but I do think its a miss that they didn't take the opportunity to rethink portions of the show instead of just going with soundalikes pretty much the entire time. The new Scrooge isn't bad, but why is he there? But the staging and set design are essentially unchanged, and those were two of the strong suits anyway, and the new changes, while not great, aren't catastrophic either.

As much as I miss the Saloon show being in the Saloon, it seemed noticeably easier to get into the Playhouse. I have to wonder if replacing the Saloon with one that's larger is in their long-term plans.

I really enjoyed Home for the Holidays. If there is any minor critique that I have, it's just that the title and description make it seem like there's going to be a plot, and there just isn't one. That said, the singing was fantastic. For me, this was a definite upgrade from IAWL.

If I have any critique of the park over the weekend, it lies in the park's (mostly ride) operations. Namely that the park has decidedly shifted to being more ride-oriented, and the crowds have responded accordingly, even during OTC. The park's philosophy towards ride operations, however, seemingly hasn't changed at all since my first visit in 2005 when they were still more of a novelty, and so they're still doing things like single train operation on Powder Keg and Time Traveler on an OTC Saturday that's hosting an enthusiast event. It just feels like something is institutionally broken in operations if there are two attractions that are very obviously more popular than others and yet those are the same attractions they are parting out or (potentially, from what I've heard) selling trains from! I'm not saying it can't be nuanced-Thunderation isn't going to need two trains running at the same frequency as some of the others. But SDC-you WILL fill those two 16-seat trains on Powder Keg and TT 95% of the time in any crowd conditions. Just run multiple dang trains on them, please, so that those of us who like those rides you've built can ride them other than at the start and close of each day!

Oh, and I think it's time to just open everything on the square already during that preview hour. Many things are open, sure, but not everything, and on Saturday because the buffet didn't open until later the only place to get anything to eat during that hour was the bakery, which was, naturally, mobbed. During OTC especially there were plenty of people hanging out that likely would have spent more money on food/souvenirs if they were given the opportunity to do so. They're leaving money on the table by keeping a lot of things closed. I get that it costs money to staff things but I bet they'd more than offset those costs in increased sales.

I went last Wednesday. We got there before chain drop, but Molly's Mill was not open before chain drop during OTC. Weird...

My mom saw Home for Christmas. She said it was basically non-stop singing.

I rode TT twice. I talked to one of the ops. He assured me that they have NOT sold a train for that ride. 1 is in pieces and the other is in the back while they wait on the wheels to come in the mail. I noticed that they aren't doing the sound/lighting effects for the lapbars. I pointed that out and he said that it broke about week ago. It won't be fixed until probably the beginning of next year. We bought a TT magnet for our fridge. I REALLY wished they did ride photos on this ride. I would have totally bought one! They are missing a great opportunity to make money! The shop employee told me that they used to take photos in line, but they don't anymore. Those wouldn't have been nearly as good for me anyway.



MRF was running, but closed. I would expect all water rides to be closed and turned off during OTC. I saw maintenance operating the ride and constantly walking to different areas all day. They had dummies in 1 or 2 rafts. It only stopped for 1 hour at 3PM, then it started back up again. A ride op said there are certain things they have to do before it can officially shut down. I also saw employees watching in the towers and they now have computers to look at for something. I think they are trying to work out the bugs while they can so it doesn't break down as much next year. I also saw a new road going around Lake Silver, along MRF, from Fireman's Landing restrooms to the MRF line. It was roped off on both sides. Not sure if this is just an employee road or a public road everyone can use later. I will find out next year.

We got to the Pumpkin Plaza gate next to GE to watch the parade at 6PM. They did some cheezy, very kiddie dances at 5:30 for 10 minutes. That was not on the schedule and I did not like seeing that! I was strictly there to see the parade.

I saw they were running engine 504, which is the new engine, so we rode it at 8PM. It seems that they have taken most of the light tunnel away and added it to Christmas in Midtown. I did not like that at all. I always loved and prefer riding thru the normal length of it on the train. They were also closing the main gates and using the old, single, wooden gate to load the last few people on the train. I haven't seen them use this gate in YEARS!!! I'm very happy to see this once again and I hope it continues!

FITH was the same as always to me. Never heard any type of a story any time I have ever ridden it.

We got passes for next year. The employees still won't say what the VIP access and events are. They say it is suppose to be a surprise. I pointed out that if nobody knows what it is, nobody will buy the pass to get it. I also asked about the discounted mug refills. I wanted to know how much those would be and why they are not free, like another Amusement Park franchise is. They said that they are about $1.75 or $2.50. The normal price without a discount is $2.75, and they do have free refill mugs, but those cost $75. WOW!  Really price gouging you and SUPER greedy these days on all food and drinks!!! At some point, nobody will be buying food anymore. They will all start bringing their own food in.

The tree seems to be worse than ever. It seems like they got yet another new tree, new songs that are all bad, and it just doesn't look as good as it used to. I miss how they used to do it before 2017....

PK was running 1 train and I saw 1 other train in the building. This must be the same situation that TT is in for their trains.

Lastly, I saw the construction from both Firefall and the windows of the Firehouse. I expected it to be in the triangular area of trees across the tracks, like some have said, but that looks to be untouched. The construction is actually straight behind the Firehouse, litteraly touching the back part of Pumpkin Plaza. They stacked 4 shipping containers on top of each other as a way to build a wall, directed at Pumpkin Plaza. I didn't see much going on. About 4 construction vehicles, but all I saw was a few electrical/water lines going in the ground and gravel on top of them. There is a gravel road going around it, along the train tracks and the West side, with small wooden sticks along it. There wasn't anything interesting enough to take pics of.....yet. Can't tell anything about it as it is. Anything could have electrical/water lines in those positions.

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Other Parks / Re: Bell's Developments
« on: November 05, 2021, 07:37:40 AM »
Robbie Bell said the kiddie rides will be in their own corner of the park, away from the thrill rides.

I know that someone already pointed out part of this, but it comes with another part I would like to add.

Robbie Bell said the water park will take up 24 acres. Safari Joes H2O is 12.5 acres.

I can't wait for it to open. I will try to be there opening day. Something he didn't mention was when they would start or how long it will take to build.

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Other Parks / Re: Frontier City/Six Flags season passes
« on: November 03, 2021, 08:36:48 AM »
SF are doing this to try and force everyone onto a Membership. We believe they are doing this so they can make more money. Most people want to go to more than 1 park. Most people who sign up for a Membership forget about it later, but keep paying for it, even when they stop coming. When you try to cancel after a year, they send you a lower price for the future.

The only parts about a Membership that I like that much are the free drinks with our mugs and that I can see my Membership benefits on the app.

Also, if this means anything to you... I talked about how bad the staffing issue was earlier and that they are rotating most of the rides that are open. Well, a fellow member's daughter applied to work there and never got a call back. I'm not sure they really want to hire people that bad. Even though they are advertising it everywhere!

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Other Parks / Re: Frontier City/Six Flags season passes
« on: November 02, 2021, 10:14:58 AM »
All of us SF fans have been talking about this lately. SF changed their policies on this for next year at all of their parks. Season Passes are now only for your home theme park and home water park. Your home parks are the 2 parks you choose to go to the most, not necessarilly your closest parks. Memberships are good for all SF parks. The monthly rate on all Memberships is what you would expect to pay in full. Paying the full price all at once for a Membership is 2 to 3 times more than paying monthly. The main rule is that once you sign up for a Membership and decide to pay monthly, you MUST continue to have the Membership and pay for it for at least 12 months. Your Membership starts and you start paying for it the day you sign up. You can't end it until that same day next year. If you try to get out in any way, they will revoke your Membership and you will continue to pay for 1 full year or they may charge you on top of that. If you try to turn off or end your current debit/credit card, they will try to charge you 3 more times over the next few days. If you fail to give them a new debit/credit card, they will get their money by sending a bill collector for you. They might even sue you. Once it has been 1 full year, you may end the Membership or choose to continue. After it has been 1 full year, you may end your Membership at any time. There is no phone number to call to ask any questions. All questions are answered in full on the website. If you have any other questions to ask SF themselves, just walk into the park and talk to Guest Relations or a park manager.

There are 4 levels of Memberships. They all come with benefits, each has more benefits than another, and they all have different prices. Memberships come in Gold, Platinum, Diamond, and Diamond Elite. I currently have Platinum because I wanted just enough benefits so I didn't have to pay too much, but I also wanted to be able to use my rewards points to get other rewards that I'm not currently paying for. I mainly bought the Membership because I expected to hear better music than I have heard at SDC in the past, I plan on going to SFOT (Six Flags Over Texas, also called Over Texas or OT), possibly go to Fiesta Texas, Hurricane Harbor Arlington, I heard FC was suppose to start construction on a new ride soon, and experience Hurricane Harbor OKC for the first time. I was wrong on most of this.

I bought my Membership in late June or July of this year. I have gone to FC and HHOKC several times so far. It's rare that I ever hear a good song in FC, plus the stupid scary sound effects they play after 7 PM for Fright Fest instead of music around the park. Fright Fest before 7 PM is the only time I hear all good music (Halloween songs), except in Timber Town, that's always stupid bluegrass. During normal times, the music is country crap with the rare chance of hearing 1 old rock/pop song. Bumper Cars plays non-stop 70s rock/pop. THANK GOD FOR THAT RIDE!!! Wild West Water Works is basically a good mix of every genre. HHOKC is also a good mix of every genre.

HHOKC is the BEST water park within 150 miles of my house! Most of the slides are amazing, but 2 body drop slides have been closed for "maintenance" and 1 is closed most of the day for cleaning or staffing.

FC always has half the rides closed, if not more. 2/3 for staffing, 1/3 for maintenance. Most of the rides are crap. Nowhere near the quality that B&M, MACK, GCI, S&S, or anything else at SDC. Most of the shows are just as bleck as  the rides. Restrooms are dirty, smell bad, have puddles of mysterious liquid on the floor, etc. They go too far for Fright Fest. They even had scare actors roaming the streets! I have never been to Holiday in the Park, but I plan on still going. I don't expect much... I don't want to come back to this park the way it is. HHOKC is much better than White Water, but SDC is much better than FC. I'm torn between these 2. Plus, I hear that SDC's new Rivertown area finally plays good music?!?! I highly doubt they will, but if it's true, then I'm sold with SDC on the GREAT way they are going! Trust me, some rides at FC and other SF parks have great theming, but SDC still stands above them by having better, quality, best name brand rides!

Also, SF bought FC in 2018. They changed everything over by 2020. I read somewhere that they were promising us 1+ new rides every year. I don't see any sign of a new ride in either park. FC has done extensive infrastructure work, new maintenance area added to the Bumper Cars, and they are getting an expanded maintenance building to work on all the rides, but we still need something new to keep us customers coming in!

In my opinion, the best and most exciting coaster is Steel Lasso, which is a short family coaster... Wildcat is boring and bumpy when it's full or half full. Silver Bullet and Diamondback are rough, boring, pieces of crap!

This park has been given a slogan even before SF bought it out, which is: "Where Rides Come To Die" because this park has always sent old rides here. Some of those never worked and have been sold as scrap. We rarely get anything new. It's a bit hard to decide, but I think I'll take SDC's passes and go to that park all year, every year instead of going to HHOKC for only the summer portion of every year. OT is too far to drive for a weekend vacation every month, even though it looks and sounds like a much better SF park than FC.

I did love that I could have my Membership/pass on my phone and see everything on my phone including shows, rides, map, etc. I also like that I can check into most rides and shows to earn rewards points, even though it doesn't always work for me for every ride. The app shows open/ closed for some rides that are the opposite. SF is definately the cheap brand for a reason. They advertise a "no tolerance policy", but they don't enforce their rules unless someone tells a manager. Even then, I'm not sure they do anything. One of their rules is no cutting in line. This includes line jumping and saving spaces in line. I've seen more people cutting in line than I've seen rides open!!! Seriously! I see at least 5 people cutting in line on rides per day and I try to ride every ride that I can. FC managers tell me that I can tell the ride operators and they will call security, but the only time I did that, the employee just looked at me with "I don't care" eyes. I rarely even see 1 person cut in line when I go to SDC!
I haven't even had this membership for half a year and I am already tired of FC. I CAN'T WAIT to get back to SDC in a week so I can clear my head by riding QUALITY RIDES! I'm buying an SDC pass next year and I plan on continuing to do so!

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I know the tracks are the exact same width as what you will find all over Germany.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: Future SDC Development Speculation (Long-term)
« on: September 12, 2021, 11:09:14 AM »
Saw this today and I wouldn't mind seeing SDC getting another wooden coaster and built in this style. A family dueling out and back coaster with lots of airtime hills using the terrain and flying thru the woods built by TGG or GCI would be wonderful. This and the GCI Titan Track show a lot of promise and would set it apart from Outlaw Run. It doesn't even have to be an extreme record breaker.

The next project will the one we’ve all been expecting.

What could it be? 😱 A watermelon stand?

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: Dickens characters fired?
« on: June 06, 2021, 08:45:42 PM »
For a while, the 2 skinny guys from the "sons" switched back and forth for playing Scrooge because they easily resembled each other. When 1 went on break, the other would come in. The bigger one played the first ghost, town cryer, and the third ghost (Bart had to tell me who played the 3rd ghost because I couldn't figure it out myself.). Catfish (employee before 2010) might have been the original person who played the first ghost. I know the role of town cryer eventually switched to the man who plays the deputy. As far as I know, Bart always played Jacob Marley. Bart was also in the saloon show for a year. I think I heard that the role of Tom Jenkins might have switched to one of the "sons" at one point. We all know Cassandra Haygood used to play the 2nd ghost years ago. That's about all I know.

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I was just thinking about this recently. I believe we have a good chance of seeing a new ride open in 2023. In order to do this, they will indeed have to start this fall, whether we see construction or not. Fall to winter is a great time to start anyway, especially because the cold weather starts coming in after having fun on the water rides all summer. I don't want them to break anyone's plans for riding any ride one last time, especially a water ride. Starting over the off-season is cool too, but it doesn't give them as much time.

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Other Parks / Re: Frontier City Developments
« on: April 20, 2021, 08:34:25 AM »
Other rumors are:

Green Lantern from Six Flags Great Adventure may be coming. This will be a great choice, in my opinion. This will bring in record amounts of people to ride a coaster that is taller than some have ever ridden. Frontier City is the only amusement park in Oklahoma (besides the kiddie park) and alot of people can't afford to travel to another state for a bigger amusement/theme park.

Wildcat is getting a 2nd train soon and it will be an RMC train.

Finally, I have heard something from this year's preview day for the park, which happened on the Sunday before they opened this year. Someone said they were walking around the park with a group of people and a man that sounded like a tour guide (of sorts), talking about all the changes. They eventually got to the area where the go-karts used to be. He asked if Six Flags had any plans for the area. Besides the warehouse that was already mentioned, they are thinking about adding a wild mouse coaster to bring more people to this area of the park.

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Other Parks / Re: Kentucky Kingdom/WA/FC Rumor
« on: February 22, 2021, 09:36:02 AM »
^You realize SF was responsible for running FC into the ground, right? It's still owned by the REIT group anyway, and they are absolutely in the business of flipping properties for the right price. I expect SF will be first in line to buy though when they are ready to make a deal.

Are you kidding me? Back when Six Flags wasn't fully running the park (2018 and before), Premier Parks was mainly running it and they are the ones to blame for the park being so bad, let the paint chip, everything look cheap, everything look crappy, etc. Now that Six Flags fully runs it, they have made SO MANY improvements, upgrades, and they are planning on bringing big rides to the park soon! Six Flags is by far the BEST company to run this park and one of the best, if not the best park company in America!!! If you went to Frontier City lately, you would clearly see how much better Six Flags is than Premier. Six Flags actually cares, they theme their attractions extremely well, and they give the public what they want! When Six Flags is ready to own the entire property, I'm all for it because they will have 100% say in everything they do on the property and expanding the property. That will be the moment that they start making this park great in every way.

For example, look at Magic Springs (which is still managed by Premier Parks) and compare it to what FC is today. That will show you the difference between both companies.

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Other Parks / Re: Kentucky Kingdom/WA/FC Rumor
« on: February 20, 2021, 09:07:08 PM »
NO!!! If Herschends bought FC, I would be PISSED!!! Six Flags finally got it back in their posession (mostly) and I expect them to make it a great park! I don't want Herschends coming in and ruining everything we have! I know FC currently plays crappy country music around most of the park March thru mid-September, except in Timbertown and the Wild West Water Works area. Herschends would make it even worse by bringing their own crappy music in and playing it around the entire park, remove Frightfest/Hallowfest forever, remove all the great shows, replace the good music in the shows with their own crap music, and all kinds of other things that will probably be horrible! I highly doubt they would improve it in any way! As for Hurricane Harbor, who knows what they would do. Six Flags is by far the best choice for this park.

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: "A Christmas Carol"
« on: September 28, 2020, 08:28:19 AM »
I know 1 of the songs says "Gloria" as one of the words. I'm pretty sure Gloria is the name of the song, but I never knew the band or the specific name.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project (Thread #2)
« on: July 10, 2020, 02:09:03 PM »
Most people start leaving the park when they feel rain, because there are not many rides or other things to do. Most guests are there for the rides, except during November and December. Some people will stick around during the rain and some guests know about the only 2 indoor rides. For most guests, rides get boring very quick, especially if there are no other rides open. Because of this, I think a new indoor ride, dark ride, or mix of both would help TREMENDOUSLY! It will keep more people in the park and it will also be the ride for those to go to when it's too cold or too hot outside but they dont want to get wet. The more indoor rides SDC has, the better chance they have of keeping most people in the park during certain or all weather conditions.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project (Thread #2)
« on: July 03, 2020, 06:09:18 PM »
😍😍😍 Amazing!!! Those are my favorite type of lockers! They used to have those dryers at Riverblast, but they were taken out after about a year. I rarely saw anyone ever use those dryers though. The dryers costed at least $3 back then. Most people know that Wildfire is a great way to dry off for free. Because of this, I think that 2 dryers is a bit too many. I doubt they would have a line if they had just 1 dryer. But I still love it!

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At this point, I would be happy just to get another indoor attraction, regardless of what it is. If it is themed something like one of these things that were mentioned, that's another plus. I love all these ideas!

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