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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: Going back to SDC
« on: May 13, 2020, 01:33:48 PM »
I think parks are being resistant to being the first to reopen. I expect that once one park does, then many others will follow.

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: Going back to SDC
« on: May 08, 2020, 09:55:58 AM »
Hey - I've been lurking around here for *years* and finally got around to making an account.

And the thing I can't help but notice here is that no one pointed out that a *lot* of the folks who work at SDC are older, and therefore *possibly* more at risk from COVID-19.

Although not quite a walking antique myself (yet) I do worry about a lot of good people who work there every year.  Many of them have existing health issues, but get up every morning, help open up the Park and welcome us in.  They smile and chitchat with us, and make us feel welcome and valued.

They are - for our family - as much an "attraction" as any building or ride or show.  It's the *people* who work there that make SDC a great place to go, year after year. 

So I will feel good about going back to SDC when I know that the folks who work there are safe and as protected as they can be. 

I'll be fine - my family will be fine - if we have to wait a while longer to visit.  But it's not worth the cost of any of those folks to me. 

And, for the record?  We glove & mask up before we go anywhere - because we try to protect *everyone* that we interact with.  I don't care who you are, or where you work, or what your politics or religion are - I'm not going to be the person who infects you if I can help it.  We *do* know someone who died from COVID-19; a family friend who worked side-by-side with my husband for years and was hospitalized, on a vent for 12 days before he died alone in ICU.  His family never saw him, never touched him again after he entered the hospital, and they had to be quarantined at home for 2 weeks (as did our entire family, and all of his co-workers and *their* families).  There was no funeral, just a burial.  Hopefully at some point in the future, we can all get together at a memorial for him.

I think that in the end, what will matter most to SDC (and really anyplace where employees have to deal with the public in general) is how we look out for each other. 

I'm going to go back into "lurk" mode now.  Y'all stay safe and healthy (and @chittlins, for crying out loud stay off that ding-dang hill)

Thanks for the post, and sorry about your loss.

I could have sworn that we had at least a comment or two in this thread about the fact that many older people work at SDC, but I can't seem to find it. I know I at least thought about it, and came to the conclusion that, at least temporarily, the park may be populated with younger people needing jobs (not necessarily teenagers and young adults, but more people in their 20s, 30s, and 40s). I hope that doesn't prevent the older, regular employees to come back at some point when they are ready. It certainly will be a fine line that everyone will have to walk.

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: Going back to SDC
« on: May 06, 2020, 09:58:03 AM »
I think it would be reasonable to expect many shops and stalls being closed considering a good chunk of the employees who work them are elderly. I would imagine the only shops and food places being open will be the most popular and easiest to social distance in as well as ride gift shops.

That's a good point about many older employees not working, at least initially. Many older visitors who frequent some of those stops and stalls may also not be there as well. It may start out temporarily being like Midnight Madness and Pumpkin Nights where many of the shops were closed at night, except in this case being the whole day.

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: Going back to SDC
« on: May 06, 2020, 09:37:20 AM »
If SDC could only operate at, say, half capacity, it would help with overcrowding, but I also wonder about lines for various things in the park. Some lines end up right next to people just walking down the path or next to other lines when there are even a modest amount of people in the park. I wonder if and when SDC opens, will they keep certain things closed to help with the concentration of people in any one area of the park.

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: Going back to SDC
« on: May 05, 2020, 03:06:35 PM »
Pretty ironic to say that, chittlins, as both of you and runner have been going back and fourth, acting like either side is right and the other is wrong.

Yes, people need to work, yes, people need to make sure they're protected, yes, people need money. It's just back and fourth of the same message with just a change of words.

Back to SDC, like I said earlier, I think a soft opening when it's feasible seems like the best choice to go, then when the park is allowed to go a full capacity, hold the opening ceremony. Make it big, make it grand. Now when that can happen, nobody knows. As most rural areas are just now starting to get some confirmed cases (my county included), we're not sure what's going to happen. There's no way that we got COVID during December, though. It does not add up.

I'm positive that the city could be fully open by August, though. I wonder how much progress they've made on MRF?

Fully open as in operating at normal crowd capacity, or just all of the rides and attractions open, or what? I wouldn't be surprised if they kept crowd levels down to a certain point all year.

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: Going back to SDC
« on: May 05, 2020, 01:42:50 PM »
Yesterday in Missouri it was like nothing ever happened. All the people out without protection potentially infecting others, just because our shortsighted govoner decides to lift the order. Death projections for June are already up and people are acting like its over.

So what are you suggesting? You have to admit that society can't be shutdown indefinitely.

The quarantining was implemented in the first place to keep hospitals and health care facilities from being overrun, not to prevent the whole spread of the virus. There was always going to be a spike in cases no matter when things were opened up.

Did I say quarantine anywhere ? I said without protection. I could care less if people get out but then it is their responsibility to not spread it to others.  People not wearing protection, Not respecting the social distancing guidelines !  I am out every day but I am taking the necessary precautions.  It is my responsibility to not potentially infect others.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-coronavirus-deaths-exceed-70000-as-forecasting-models-predict-grim-summer/ar-BB13Dk71?li=BBnb7Kz

Then what did you mean by the text I highlighted?

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: Going back to SDC
« on: May 05, 2020, 10:20:12 AM »
Yesterday in Missouri it was like nothing ever happened. All the people out without protection potentially infecting others, just because our shortsighted govoner decides to lift the order. Death projections for June are already up and people are acting like its over.

So what are you suggesting? You have to admit that society can't be shutdown indefinitely.

The quarantining was implemented in the first place to keep hospitals and health care facilities from being overrun, not to prevent the whole spread of the virus. There was always going to be a spike in cases no matter when things were opened up.

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: SDC postpones opening!!
« on: April 30, 2020, 10:39:53 AM »
Is this a case of “ignorance is bliss” for these people that are not “more in tune with these types of things”?

Well, perhaps to an extent. But I bet a lot of people in this boat are only ignorant because what other parks are doing doesn't matter that much to them. Like for me, I didn't even know what other parks were doing until I came on this site.

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: SDC postpones opening!!
« on: April 29, 2020, 05:06:37 PM »
Here’s the problem using Disney and Universal parks in this conversation, those parks use what is called an annual pass.  That means that you have one year of use at the parks from the date it is bought.  So if you buy the pass in March, it’s good from that day in March to the same day in March the next year.  So what Disney and Universal are doing is expanding that year the annual pass is good for by however many days the parks are closed.  See that works great in this situation. 

SDC (and now DW who announced the same procedures for their passes) are really painting themselves into a corner.  They don’t have a membership program like Six Flags (where they just suspended dues until the park opens again and they gave everyone one free level upgrade on their membership) and they don’t do annual passes like at the big boys, so what do they do?

Well there’s several thought processes here.  The clean and easy way to do it is how Cedar Fair (WOF, CP, KI, etc) is doing it with just giving 2021 “free” - in this system there are no questions.  It is straight to the point.  Then there’s the other way of doing it, which SDC, Dollywood (and Hersheypark I’ve just learned) are expanding the pass into 2021 (but not the entire season).  On paper to accountants this sounds extremely logical, but instead of fixing what it was supposed to fix, it has now created more issues.  How do we prorate? What if people don’t buy the rest of 2021? So many questions that were created that didn’t need to be. 

I know that the park means well, it just appears (to me and many others) that they should have done better

First of all, my example of Disney and Universal was just to create a higher tier park, and distinguish them from other parks in their areas. I wasn't trying to use them as an example here, and my bad if it came off that way.

But yeah, as I believe I mentioned before, logistically for them it could create additional headaches. But, I am either going to buy the remainder of 2021 or I am not. If the prorated price is fair, I most likely will. I can't imagine that SDC would do this and then try to rip off current season pass holders by making the prorated price too high.

I guess if someone like you is more in tune with these types of things, then it could be an issue for you. But the people I've talked to about it so far are glad they're doing something.

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: SDC postpones opening!!
« on: April 29, 2020, 11:38:48 AM »
The issue is that since they were not the first company in the state to make their decision on what to do, the standard (precedent) has already been set.  Worlds of Fun is giving their season pass holders 2021 for “free”.  Now that this has become very public, anything less than that seems like a slap in the face to the pass holders.  SDC should have called and raised so that they would appear to be the park in the area that cares the most about their patrons.  As is, they’re barely on par with Six Flags with how their handling this. 

Perspective is everything in this industry

So one glove fits all? Does that mean that all higher-end parks (I'm calling SDC one of those, at least in comparison to WoF) need to do the same things as the lower-end ones? We don't have this problem in Missouri, but doesn't Disney and Universal do different things that the smaller parks in Florida and California?

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: SDC postpones opening!!
« on: April 28, 2020, 01:21:10 PM »
A lot of businesses are doing "odd" things right now.

Although, I don't even know that it's really that odd (other than a logistic standpoint, I suppose). I'm guessing the pass for the remainder of the year next year will be somewhat discounted for current pass holders.

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I'm guessing the guy didn't think doing this would have resulted in SDC suing him. What a mess on his part.

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: Best Dates for Christmas Visit
« on: October 22, 2019, 10:45:10 AM »
What are the projected best dates to visit for Christmas this year in terms of lowest crowds?

I have gone on the night before Thanksgiving for years and years. It used to be pretty slow, but in the last 10 or so years the crowds have jumped up. I still always see a noticeable drop in crowds after around dinnertime on that night though.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project (Thread #2)
« on: September 10, 2019, 11:59:07 AM »
Regardless the budget and scheduling issues that may be a factor, the reality is it's going to look very ghetto if they leave Lake Silver as is next to a brand new $25 million addition. It's a shame that something as simple as a very small body of water cannot be treated as an aesthetic asset to the park. Especially considering how little the park would need to invest to treat it as such.

Why do you think they'll leave Lake Silver the same way it is now? I totally expect that it will look different in some way when the ride opens.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2020 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: August 15, 2019, 01:57:18 PM »
Another new thought - That lift looks a lot higher than Infinity Falls at Sea World.....maybe it isn't.  But it will be interesting to see how the rafts queue up for the lift....or if it will be quick enough that they don't.  The lift really changes how to operate a raft ride.

There's others who have ridden Infinity Falls at SeaWorld that could tell you first-hand, but the POV videos on Youtube show a small wait between rafts, but nothing that appears too time consuming. So assuming it will operate the same, there may not be much of a queue needed.

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