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#1
Construction/Rumors / Re: Project 2027 Tracker
August 14, 2026, 09:14:59 PM
Quote from: Potential on August 14, 2026, 09:02:26 PMok so you think sdc is not the best park in america that's fine you're entitled to your opinion I just don't see the point of arguing over a family coaster it's not gonna get you anywere
Ultimately SDC's marketing department sucks.  They build up this anticipation of something spectacular, on the scale of the real best in America parks, and then give us this very meh mine train, not 1st of it's kind in the states, not heavily themed coaster
#2
Construction/Rumors / Re: Project 2027 Tracker
August 14, 2026, 08:52:33 PM
Quote from: Potential on August 14, 2026, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: Wildfire on August 14, 2026, 08:37:50 PM
Quote from: Potential on August 14, 2026, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: Wildfire on August 14, 2026, 08:15:42 PM
Quote from: RowEleven on August 14, 2026, 07:49:55 PMAbsolutely wild watching everyone fall apart in this forum over a family coaster.

It's pretty obvious there are mostly young people here going off the fact that "Hagrids-level theming" was expected. Miner's Mountain Express is a sub $50 million investment. Hagrids cost Universal $300 million. Universal and Disney spend huge sums of money on their theming, and regional parks just don't have that budget.

With that said, I think MME's theming looks great, even right now. Walking through the site this morning made me appreciate just how much rock they've laid. It's a huge area with a LOT of landscaping. The finished path by the tower already has some nice plant life coming in. The station area itself is bare, but I see the potential there.

In terms of the ride, I knew to expect a family coaster, so I was actually surprised to see more intense/interesting elements in the layout. A wave turn? Great. Some surprisingly long airtime hills? Incredible. And the weird trick-track thing in the tunnel is going to feel bonkers, I know it.

Many elements feel like a direct callback to Thunderation. That final dive out of the tunnel is a completely mirrored moment. The exit from the station, too. And the second or third helix (the one that banks almost 90º) is reminiscent of Thunderation's tightening spiral into the tunnel.

One of those lifts is almost 100', too! It won't sit too far below Powderkeg.

I don't love the name, but from what I've heard, that was a corporate decision. I'm super hyped about the name for the new section of the park. Daredevil Pass freaking rips.


I take it as a compliment you think I'm young, I will be 45 in December.  The "best theme park in America" SHOULD be on a Universal/Disney level.  This coaster is not even in the ballpark of the theming those parks have.  Maybe quit marketing it as the best when it clearly is not.


ignore what wildfire has to say all he's doing is bringing negativity to this forum
Dude I have been a season pass holder all my life.  I absolutely love SDC, but it is an absolute joke for it to be "the best theme park in America".  It is not even in the ballpark with theming compared to Universal or Disney.  If they truly want to be the best, then quit cheaping out on theming

why would you expect them to be in the same ballpark as universal or disney they're not close in terms of appeal but what makes SDC better is that has great atmosphere and the feelness of the park is something you won't experience at any other park

also they're called the best theme park in america because fans voted them to be the best theme park it's not like they just chose to be called that

and again there's no need to be pressed
The park PR does this massive social media campaign every year to get SDC voted as the best theme park in America, so they obviously fancy themselves as something they are not willing to spend the money to truly be.  My advice is stop claiming to be the best theme park if you want to cheap out on theming.  Let me be clear, SDC is my home park, I give them hundreds of my money each year.  But it is not even close to the best park in America. And yes, I visit other parks.
#3
Construction/Rumors / Re: Project 2027 Tracker
August 14, 2026, 08:37:50 PM
Quote from: Potential on August 14, 2026, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: Wildfire on August 14, 2026, 08:15:42 PM
Quote from: RowEleven on August 14, 2026, 07:49:55 PMAbsolutely wild watching everyone fall apart in this forum over a family coaster.

It's pretty obvious there are mostly young people here going off the fact that "Hagrids-level theming" was expected. Miner's Mountain Express is a sub $50 million investment. Hagrids cost Universal $300 million. Universal and Disney spend huge sums of money on their theming, and regional parks just don't have that budget.

With that said, I think MME's theming looks great, even right now. Walking through the site this morning made me appreciate just how much rock they've laid. It's a huge area with a LOT of landscaping. The finished path by the tower already has some nice plant life coming in. The station area itself is bare, but I see the potential there.

In terms of the ride, I knew to expect a family coaster, so I was actually surprised to see more intense/interesting elements in the layout. A wave turn? Great. Some surprisingly long airtime hills? Incredible. And the weird trick-track thing in the tunnel is going to feel bonkers, I know it.

Many elements feel like a direct callback to Thunderation. That final dive out of the tunnel is a completely mirrored moment. The exit from the station, too. And the second or third helix (the one that banks almost 90º) is reminiscent of Thunderation's tightening spiral into the tunnel.

One of those lifts is almost 100', too! It won't sit too far below Powderkeg.

I don't love the name, but from what I've heard, that was a corporate decision. I'm super hyped about the name for the new section of the park. Daredevil Pass freaking rips.


I take it as a compliment you think I'm young, I will be 45 in December.  The "best theme park in America" SHOULD be on a Universal/Disney level.  This coaster is not even in the ballpark of the theming those parks have.  Maybe quit marketing it as the best when it clearly is not.


ignore what wildfire has to say all he's doing is bringing negativity to this forum
Dude I have been a season pass holder all my life.  I absolutely love SDC, but it is an absolute joke for it to be "the best theme park in America".  It is not even in the ballpark with theming compared to Universal or Disney.  If they truly want to be the best, then quit cheaping out on theming
#4
Construction/Rumors / Re: Project 2027 Tracker
August 14, 2026, 08:15:42 PM
Quote from: RowEleven on August 14, 2026, 07:49:55 PMAbsolutely wild watching everyone fall apart in this forum over a family coaster.

It's pretty obvious there are mostly young people here going off the fact that "Hagrids-level theming" was expected. Miner's Mountain Express is a sub $50 million investment. Hagrids cost Universal $300 million. Universal and Disney spend huge sums of money on their theming, and regional parks just don't have that budget.

With that said, I think MME's theming looks great, even right now. Walking through the site this morning made me appreciate just how much rock they've laid. It's a huge area with a LOT of landscaping. The finished path by the tower already has some nice plant life coming in. The station area itself is bare, but I see the potential there.

In terms of the ride, I knew to expect a family coaster, so I was actually surprised to see more intense/interesting elements in the layout. A wave turn? Great. Some surprisingly long airtime hills? Incredible. And the weird trick-track thing in the tunnel is going to feel bonkers, I know it.

Many elements feel like a direct callback to Thunderation. That final dive out of the tunnel is a completely mirrored moment. The exit from the station, too. And the second or third helix (the one that banks almost 90º) is reminiscent of Thunderation's tightening spiral into the tunnel.

One of those lifts is almost 100', too! It won't sit too far below Powderkeg.

I don't love the name, but from what I've heard, that was a corporate decision. I'm super hyped about the name for the new section of the park. Daredevil Pass freaking rips.


I take it as a compliment you think I'm young, I will be 45 in December.  The "best theme park in America" SHOULD be on a Universal/Disney level.  This coaster is not even in the ballpark of the theming those parks have.  Maybe quit marketing it as the best when it clearly is not.
#5
Construction/Rumors / Re: Project 2027 Tracker
August 14, 2026, 07:39:19 PM
Quote from: Potential on August 14, 2026, 06:38:10 PM
Quote from: SDCisHome on August 14, 2026, 06:26:50 PMI am absolutely thrilled with this. Of course I would've loved a large thrill coaster, but this fits. It all started with a cave...

There's a lot of attention to detail with this. My only "meh" about it is the name, I think it's long and could've been more original, but Oo well. The ride length is excellent and I think the theming will be spot on. Hard to judge on a POV, everyone needs to wait until it's open to really judge.

I'm also a HUGE fan of Daredevil Pass...it's like a new hub area for the park. Well done, SDC!

Some people are just mad that it's a mine train I think the theming even looks great in the POV

It didn't take me too long to go from disappointed to excited
The 1st in the States comment definitely raised my hopes.  This meh coaster should have been themed to a Universal or Disney level judging by the hype the SDC marketing department created.  I guess it fills a need, but they sure made it look like an exciting coaster, which it is not.  I just hope with this bland layout they will finally theme a coaster to the level of "the best theme park in America" cause so far, that is a massive joke.
#6
Construction/Rumors / Re: Project 2027 Tracker
August 14, 2026, 01:52:28 PM
Swoosh, it's ok to admit you were wrong about almost everything on this one.  September announcement, no lift hills, multiple launches, etc
#7
Construction/Rumors / Re: Project 2027 Tracker
August 14, 2026, 01:27:45 PM
Quote from: Hellbender on August 14, 2026, 01:20:24 PMA lot of my feelings around what I perceive as "light" theming would be forgiven if the area was heavily forested. I would argue SDC's tree canopy is what provides the park with 80-90 percent of its charm. Take that away and it's largely a bunch of (now) brightly-colored wood sheds.

Give me this exact ride layout set through the woods, and I would be largely content. But when you hype up theme and story so much, and the set up is a trip into a mine shaft through an unexplored part of Marvel Cave, I want you to take me there.

To be clear: If you're excited for this, I'm happy for you. This will be a fun ride for what it is. My disappointment lies in what it could have been, and the direction it implies for the future of the park. Think about it: if a brand-new family mine ride isn't themed to the max, you just know anything more thrill-oriented down the road is going to be even more bare bones.
This is a big part of my disappointment.  I was expecting theming on the level of Hagrids or Expedition Everest.  This appears to be a mine headframe, a small tunnel and some rocks.  I was hoping they would redeem themselves after cheaping out on the Time Traveler launch building.
#8
Construction/Rumors / Re: Project 2027 Tracker
August 14, 2026, 10:11:18 AM
I'm probably in the minority, but that looks very underwhelming.  And what was the talk about 1st of it's kind in the States?  Also, another pretty short coaster, just half a mile long.
#9
Construction/Rumors / Re: Project 2027 Tracker
August 13, 2026, 06:20:02 PM
Outlaw Run is perfect in the odd numbered rows.  Please never convert it!
#10
Construction/Rumors / Re: Project 2027 Tracker
August 04, 2026, 09:03:59 AM
The name Hollijo is just a rearranging of the letters of a certain someone's first and last name.  So which personality is telling the truth?  My money is on Swoosh. 
#11
Construction/Rumors / Re: Project 2027 Tracker
July 19, 2026, 07:38:49 PM
Quote from: Heart Of The Hollow on July 19, 2026, 06:18:20 PM
Quote from: RowEleven on July 17, 2026, 06:46:44 PMBA Adventures has a way of rambling for twenty-plus minutes without saying anything of substance.

With that said, even some family coasters need big footers. A big part of footer size is determined by land.

The land where Mine Ride 2027 sits is different than Time Traveler's plot. When surveying, they may have found that the distance to bedrock is far greater. They also need to build the piers/footers below the frost line so Missouri's temperature swings don't shift the base of the ride. There are a lot of factors that play into footer size that don't necessarily have anything to do with the size or forces of the coaster itself.

I'm not an engineer, so I can't say for sure, but didn't Silver Dollar City reinforce part of Wildfire's plot of land with a retaining wall a few years ago? The land in that area may be prone to washing out, so they're taking proper precautions to ensure the new ride is stable for years to come.
Pretty sure this is Project 2027 tracker, not rip on B-A Adventures forum.

RowEleven said one very true line about BA adventures.  Calm down, their videos are pretty worthless clickbait
#12
Construction/Rumors / Re: Project 2027 Tracker
July 17, 2026, 08:28:27 PM
Quote from: hollijo on July 17, 2026, 08:12:11 PM
Quote from: Wildfire on July 17, 2026, 07:56:35 PM
Quote from: hollijo on July 17, 2026, 07:40:29 PMFamily coasters are much more profitable than other roller coasters. Especially at Family Centered Parks. That are Owned by a family entertainment company. Which is also Owned by a family.
Sure "family".  They also marketed Time Traveler as family.  This is stated as being a 1st in the United States.  If that is true it will not be a mine train.  Sorry to burst your bubble
Lol
Since you think you know it all, how do you reconcile it being the "first of it's kind in the United States"?  That completely rules out mine train, which you erroneously claim it to be
#13
Construction/Rumors / Re: Project 2027 Tracker
July 17, 2026, 07:56:35 PM
Quote from: hollijo on July 17, 2026, 07:40:29 PMFamily coasters are much more profitable than other roller coasters. Especially at Family Centered Parks. That are Owned by a family entertainment company. Which is also Owned by a family.
Sure "family".  They also marketed Time Traveler as family.  This is stated as being a 1st in the United States.  If that is true it will not be a mine train.  Sorry to burst your bubble
#14
Construction/Rumors / Re: Project 2027 Tracker
July 17, 2026, 07:33:31 PM
Ok, family thrill,but it will not be a mine train.  The station is way too small for that.  It looks perfect for a Stryker though
#15
Construction/Rumors / Re: Project 2027 Tracker
July 17, 2026, 07:28:50 PM
Quote from: hollijo on July 17, 2026, 07:21:07 PM@RowEleven great point on the footers. Some people will never learn and will continue to incorrectly convince themselves of what this is until August 14.
Lol, okay.  It's totally a lame mine coaster.