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Silver Dollar City & Celebration City Discussion => Construction/Rumors => Topic started by: shavethewhales on July 14, 2007, 02:24:17 PM
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Everyone loves these topics, right?
Well, anyway, we've got plenty of hope to go towards SDC's next coaster. It's been said that SDC's next major investment will come in 2009, and it's also been said that by the time SDC hosts the ACE 2009 coaster con, they'll be plenty of coasters to enjoy (it was implied that there would be more than they have now).
So yeah, we're apparently on the verge of getting a new coaster, but seeing as we have a good selection of them already, what will they shoot for with this one?
We all know DW just got a Gerstauler (sp?) Euro-fighter, but the reviews aren't so good, it's capacity is somewhat low, and it just plain cost a ton at $17 million. We could get one eventually, but I don't think anytime soon, and I think ours will be drastically different.
Most people, including myself, are guesstimating that they'll go back to GCII for another crazy woodie, resembling something like Thunderhead at DW, but hopefully bigger and wilder.
Anyone else have any thoughts?
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I'd like to see either an inverted like Patriot or one of those flying coasters like the Superman one where you've got your stomach facing the ground like you're actually flying.
My idea is for one of the abovementioned flying coasters themed to go in and out of a Marvel Cave-type structure and have the backstory be that we're experiencing the flight of the bats who live in Marvel Cave.
I don't think we'll be getting a Euro-fighter, and if we do, it won't be for a long time, once they've worked out what is disliked about Mystery Mine.
I think a woodie sounds the most plausible for the next coaster--been hearing rumors of one for a while now.
~ "Becky" Joy ~
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I love the idea of Silver Dollar City getting a wooden coaster. But I also love this other rumor I've heard. I am a frequent visitor to the RCT3 forums, my name is kc_rc_fan, where people post their parks or rides they've built. (Joy, I have seen you floating around there often).
Anyways, there is a member there who's husband works for Herschend as a designer (Don't quote me on this because I don't know his exact job title or anything) but she once posted a roller coaster that was going to be put into a park in 2009 (the same year SDC is supposedly getting a new coaster). She has not said what park it's going into but I think the pictures she has posted and the Youtube video she gave just screams Silver Dollar City.
Note: All pictures and the video are RCT3. None of it is concept pictures, models, or artists rendering.
RCT3 Link--Pictures, backstory:
http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=588509&highlight=shibang%21
Youtube Video Link:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8LR1uaeD9VU
I really hope this ride becomes a reality at Silver Dollar City because it would make a great addition to the park. What do you guys think?
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^I'm going to go ahead and be really skeptical about the thought of SDC getting a Vekoma of any type, much less a tilting lift model. Talk to a few enthusiasts like myself, and you'll find in a jiffy that Vekoma's name is mud, and SDC wouldn't go for a company with that type of reputation. Their rides are almost always painful, and not in a 'rough fun' kind of way.
Besides, SDC doesn't have the land available for such a ride, although that RCT model could hardly be less accurate...
Even if it were possible for them to go with Vekoma, there are just too many other manufacturers out there that are better and have good relations with the Herschends. B&M, S&S, and GCII are all on very good terms with SDC, so why would they go with a foreign company with terrible ratings?
Btw, the Herschends don't exactly have designers, they outsource almost all of that.
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I am a frequent visitor to the RCT3 forums, my name is kc_rc_fan, where people post their parks or rides they've built. (Joy, I have seen you floating around there often).
Oh, hi there! I remember you! Gosh, I don't think I've been on the RCT boards since some time in May... Man, I'm gonna have a LOT to catch up on....
Anyways, there is a member there who's husband works for Herschend as a designer (Don't quote me on this because I don't know his exact job title or anything)
Oh, yeah, I remember her! She's the one who was doing the Blazing Fury recreation.
That's a fun looking coaster! Now, is Vekoma the only company that makes that type of coaster, or are there other more reputable companies that have a similar coaster in their repertoire?
~ "Becky" Joy ~
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Oh, hi there! I remember you! Gosh, I don't think I've been on the RCT boards since sometime in May... Man, I'm gonna have a LOT to catch up on....
Yeah, you have missed A LOT. I think I PMed you a couple times there.
That's a fun looking coaster! Now, is Vekoma the only company that makes that type of coaster, or are there other more reputable companies that have a similar coaster in their repertoire?
~ "Becky" Joy ~
I really don't know if their the only company. But if Silver Dollar City doesn't like them, then I doubt it's going to happen. Maybe shavethewhales knows....
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Eh, no one really makes coasters like Vekoma anymore, and even if someone did, they'd still be a very unlikely possibility.
Heres an idea though: maybe S&S submitted a crazy new proposal to SDC that resembles something like a Vekoma Thrill Lift. It's a stretch, especially when S&S is wrapped up with other projects right now, but it could theoretically happen.
S&S, if you aren't aware, is the firm responsible for the Giant Swing and Powderkeg. They also own what's left of Arrow Dynamics, the firm responsible for ThuNderaTion and Tennessee Tornado. While it's very unlikely that S&S would ever try anything resembling a thrill lift, it's not completely out of the question, at least if you really want to daydream about it. After all, they went out of their way to do something new when they built Powderkeg... but that was more of a standard coaster.
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S&S is a great company. I would love for them and SDC to hook up again.
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S&S rocks. It'd be awesome for them to make another coaster for SDC!
~ "Becky" Joy ~
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So I've been wondering: Both S&S and GCII are in really good relations with the park, and both S&S and GCII make good wooden coasters, so which would SDC trust for a woodie? I would think GCII since they focus on woodies, but S&S has the environmental edge, and SDC may want something a little different from Ozark Wildcat...
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I bet they'd go with S&S for the environment.
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^Yeah, but they had the choice to go with S&S before but didn't... then again, that was before Powderkeg. I dunno, I'm still waiting to see whether S&S will pull out something completely different for SDC, such as a new inverting coaster or, more likely, a log flume.
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^But they have American Plunge. Why would they get another log flume?
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Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that. Then again, who says they can't have two similar attractions? Most SF parks these days will have both a log flume and something along the lines of a mack supersplash.
Anyway you look at it though, it looks like SDC is due for anther water ride. SDC only has about 3 water rides as it is, and they are all very popular. S&S is a trusted name, and they just happen to be getting into the water ride business. Besides, Dollywood is getting a splash battle next year so, maybe, just maybe we'll end up with something along those lines before we ever see a new coaster.
I'm still going to keep my hopes up for a woodie in 2009 though.
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DW just got a Gerstauler (sp?) Euro-fighter, but the reviews aren't so good
I loved MM when I rode it last May. Actually I've heard nothing but good about the coaster. The ride is super fun, especially the double heartline roll after the second drop. Also the theming is top notch. What's not to like? The wait wasn't that long even though the que was nearly full.
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^Huh, I've heard several pretty good reviews, especially from my relatives, but some of the enthusiasts I've talked to said it was just 'OK'. I guess most enthusiasts are just too picky, after all, these would be the type to whine about The Voyage or Maverick.
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If I get to go to Dollywood next summer this is the first thing I want to do. I've heard good things about it and it looks really fun!
Off Topic: We've made history! This is our first two page thread here on these forums!! Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it is.
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I think they should get a inverted coaster, but the only problem with that is it would be hard to theme but I bet they could come up with something. you know what would be really awsome is if they built a coaster inside the cave in the HUGE room!!! but that won't happen, but it would be really cool.
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^Actually an inverted coaster wouldn't be hard to theme at all. Heck, if nothing else, they can go back to using the Dr. Hartio Harris (sp?) theme.
As for the cave, I'm just glad it hasn't caved in - but speaking on a hypothetical basis, I personally would hate to see a coaster in there, it would destroy the awe effect of the natural beauty and magnitude.
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They would never build a coaster inside the cave. If they did, that would screw up the whole beauty of it as Steve said. I'd like to see a woodie more than a inverted coaster at this time. But an inverted would add a whole new thrill to the park.
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The cave thing was just a joke but anyway I don't care what kind of coaster they get just as long as its good themed, and fun.
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I care what type of coaster it is. I don't want a wild mouse or a compact spinning coaster or anything like that. This next coaster needs to take the place of Wildfire and Powderkeg as the top coaster in SDC.
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^I can argue with that.
Sure, I want a big thriller, but the park doesn't exactly have a plain family coaster of the likes of something a small family would like. I know many younger riders are attracted to ThuNderaTion and Powderkeg, but for those with a bit of coaster-phobia, those rides appear pretty big. A small coaster, larger than the Grand Expo Coaster, but smaller than ThuNderaTion would really please a great deal of people.
Still though, I think a woodie would really fit the park even better, and would please just as many people, if not more.
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I agree with you to some extent.... you've got to remember that there are 2 areas devoted strictly to families in the park. Grand Expo and Tom Sawyer's Landing. I think the park has to look at the thrill seekers in the next few years to compete with other parks. I think if the park doesn't get a woodie, inverted, or some type of thrill coaster the roller coaster will be for families.
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Everyone loves these topics, right?
Well, anyway, we've got plenty of hope to go towards SDC's next coaster. It's been said that SDC's next major investment will come in 2009, and it's also been said that by the time SDC hosts the ACE 2009 coaster con, they'll be plenty of coasters to enjoy (it was implied that there would be more than they have now).
You said in the very first post in this thread that it was "implied" that SDC would get two more coasters by 2009. And the park has said that there won't be a new coaster in 2008. But, I can't imagine SDC adding two roller coasters in one offseason. So I'm just wondering how in the world that's going to come to a reality....
Anyway you look at it though, it looks like SDC is due for anther water ride. SDC only has about 3 water rides as it is, and they are all very popular. S&S is a trusted name, and they just happen to be getting into the water ride business. Besides, Dollywood is getting a splash battle next year so, maybe, just maybe we'll end up with something along those lines before we ever see a new coaster.
I kinda had this crazy idea as I re-read this topic today. What if SDC brought back a Buzz Saw Falls type ride?? This ride was very popular at the park. It was made as a prototype and I think it was very successful. I know BSF had it's problems though. But now the park knows what to do differently. I loved the ride and it'd be awesome to see a similar ride return.
*This was kinda just a dream post made by me because I seriously doubt there will ever be another ride like BSF make a return to SDC. But I'm just kinda wondering, what if?*
If we get another water ride soon, I think it's going to be similar to what Dollywood is getting this year.
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Everyone loves these topics, right?
Well, anyway, we've got plenty of hope to go towards SDC's next coaster. It's been said that SDC's next major investment will come in 2009, and it's also been said that by the time SDC hosts the ACE 2009 coaster con, they'll be plenty of coasters to enjoy (it was implied that there would be more than they have now).
You said in the very first post in this thread that it was "implied" that SDC would get two more coasters by 2009. And the park has said that there won't be a new coaster in 2008. But, I can't imagine SDC adding two roller coasters in one offseason. So I'm just wondering how in the world that's going to come to a reality....
No, actually I meant to say that it was implied that SDC will get one new coaster in or by 2009.
As for a Buzzsaw Falls come-back, it's very improbable. Mainly just because of the way the ride would fit into the park. As it is, the park will have plenty of good coasters by 2009, and they probably will want a ride that is simply 'wet' and not a hybrid. Generally, because of the way people are picky and the changing weather, it's good to have rides that can be classified simply as either wet or dry. This is especially true at seasonal parks.
Thus, yes, it's highly likely that we'll get our own Splash Battle in 2010 or soon after.
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Mystery Mine is an awesome roller coaster in general. The themeing is consistant, and easy to understand. The final interversion almost stops, and it's a great finale. My mother is a very old woman, and she hate most rattley coasters. This one starts out jerky, but it gets smoother towards the middle. It ROX!
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So by now, we should all be pretty confident that 2009 will bring a massive new coaster, right? I mean, with them telling ACE specifically to get excited for 2009, if it's not a coaster then I'll be flabbergasted.
Anyway, I've been thinking - with this apparently being SDC's biggest, most expensive project to date, I don't think this will be a GCII project. Or if it is, it'll be bigger than Troy.
To be the biggest project ever, they'll be spending more than $15 million, and most GCII's come well under that, even for large models. This makes me think that we may end up with our own version of Mystery Mine instead.
Tch, either way we get a solid coaster, but I hope I'm wrong. Then again, maybe they're going back to B&M for something?
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Who says that this NEW project will be JUST a roller coaster? Since when has a new ride here lately JUST BEEN the ride? Think AREA
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Why is it that every new thing must have its own area? I mean, they're nice when they make sense, such as with the Grand Expo and TGS, but I can't think of why they would need another one. SDC is supposed to be a city, not a conduction of half a dozen 'lands' like other parks.
Then again, they know all about this, and have done a good job of trying to stick to the original atmosphere for the most part, so it will probably make more sense when it's announced.
I just hope they don't use the excuse of a new area to pack it with loads of corny games.
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^Re-reading my earlier post, I realize how bitchy that sounds. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I do see how new areas can fit into the park, provided it is still part of the city, which I'm sure they will be.
Anyway, where are they going to put this thing? We've heard the rumor about Echo Hollow being replaced, but I don't see this happening. A new amphitheater is probably in their plans for sometime in the future, but I don't think they want to take out their biggest venue yet.
There are expansion points behind TGS and the Grand Expo, as well as by the homestead I believe, but it's hard to tell which one of these could harbor a project of this magnitude.
They use magic to position stuff at SDC though, I was astounded at the way they slid TGS in there this year.
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^I've never been able to sit through a whole show at Echo Hollow. The shows just seem boring there. All the other shows in the park are entertaining though ;D
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^Actually an inverted coaster wouldn't be hard to theme at all. Heck, if nothing else, they can go back to using the Dr. Hartio Harris (sp?) theme.
THis doesn't sound like a bad idea. They could build the loop to Powder Keg by adding another coaster here. It could be another Dr. Haratio themed coaster. They could add a flat ride or two to this area as well. I don't hate the idea...
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http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=36.669830,-93.340200&spn=0.003192,0.002951&t=k&hl=en
While looking at the map from google, I am not under the impression that a coaster will fit unless the path really curves down into the valley. It surprises me that the paths are so close. . . I would never have guessed.
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I guess I was thinking to put the coaster in the wooded area and the entrance would be located between PK and WF. There would be room for the Shot Tower ride in this area near PK; it could be built above the waterfall. I think they might have to rebuild the falls to do this though. They could also build permanent shops along PK rather then the semi-permanent ones they have now. Finishing the loop would help with the awkward bottle neck that happens near the American Plunge entrance. I wouldn’t mind seeing a better entrance for the Plunge either, it gets lost in the shuffle. People ask where the entrance is all the time even when they are standing right in front of it. Plus it would be more ground for guests to cover at SDC.
If they would build a Mystery Mine type of ride I think that building it under and on the other side of the Waterboggan (currently M&C employee parking) would be an imaginitive use of space. If they went with a “Creature from the Creek” theme this damp forested area could play well with the theme. Also it wouldn’t be taken up space that otherwise could be utilized in a different way.
I still think that one day they should open up the land that is on the other side of Lake Silver where M&C offices and warehouses are currently.
Just some ideas.
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I find it weird that they have employee parking inside the park by the Waterboggan. Shouldn't it be by guest parking just closer on the way out so they don't have to wait in line to leave on busy nights?
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Well, The Expo and this parking lot I am talking about use to be the bottom half of the parks parking lot. The top half still parks in A-west which might soon change. They moved the bottom half’s across HWY 76 when they built the expo and now shuttle employees back and forth.
Sounds confusing???
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I'm really starting to think that they'll build off of Shanty-town instead, it's just such a perfect place for something big: it's straight off the main square, there's a good size area, and they can revitalize the cool stuff that's already there. Plus, if they build that corner of the park up with another huge ride, it'll be even more of thrill-junkie bottle neck than it already is.
I do wish they would expand the path around there though, maybe filling it up with some new shops/eateries. That valley down below it is just prime for something.
Btw, anyone notice that they have a new-ish staging area behind the new employee parking lot?
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Are you calling the Homestead area shanty town? I don’t think they will build in this area due to the major portions of cave that are below it. The cave environmentally has gone through a lot due to SDC and I don’t see them trying to cause anymore harm to the cave, but then again they might build there, it is a large gradually sloping are.
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^Ah yes, I had forgotten about the cave, this came up the last time we talked about this I think, maybe even in this same thread...
In that case, the only ways forward are off the 3 major expansion heads and around lake silver. Again, they want to spread out the major attractions away from the PK/Wildfire loop, so they won't build off that corner unless they plan on a major extension. They probably won't use up any land around the Grand Expo either, as they'll want to save that for things like a new show (maybe a circus type of thing) and a major new flat ride like the Frissbee we almost got.
So really, the best area for any new major expansion looks like beyond Wilson's farm, though I'm not sure about the topography there.
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I agree that would be a good are, but it would have to loop up with Geyser Gulch. Behind the GBS is a hill that extends down quite a bit. It is the location of the animal corral for the park (storage of mules, dogs...) and the Gardner’s shed where they bring all the flowers and trees for the park. If you avoid going down to that and up towards the train the only other place is up to the other side of Lake Silver. I am all for this expansion. The major barrier for this project would be relocating the Maintenance & Construction Warehouses. This could possibly be moved across the street someplace near the employee parking. I am sure they wouldn’t mind some new facilities.
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I had heard a rumor (several years ago) that SDC was going down the hill from the Homestead area. As I was walking by the canon that sits across from the church, I've always wondered if they would consider building a zone "celebrating" the Confederacy. Cabins and a wooden coaster might be able to crafted into this theme. Personally, I don't want to see them deal with the subject of Civil War. As a northerner living in the Ozarks, Dixie Stampede is about the greatest sense of humor that I can muster about the subject. :-\While I love Fire in the Hole for the technical excellence that it represents, its theming gets dangerously close to a difficult subject.
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I can't imagine them dealing with the Civil War, seeing as how the theme of the park is two decades after the war officially ended.
As for expansion... How much land does Herschend own? I mean, on that satellite picture, I see a lot of land out beyond the Homestead as well as beyond WF & PK and around the outer portions of the train track. How far does the land go?
And I've always been curious: once the 99-year lease on Marvel Cave is up in 2049, what happens then? Who actually *owns* the cave at the moment?
~ "Becky" Joy ~
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The Lynch sisters willed the land to the First Presbyterian church of Branson and the College of the Ozarks. Terms for the 99 year lease called for a yearly payment of $5,000 or 10% of the ticket sales, which ever number was greatest. The lease started April 1, 1950. The Herschend family and the McMaster’s were partners for a short time then the Herschends bought them out. I know they have already worked the lease out. It has been quite a while since they dealt with that issue.
As for how much do they own, I don’t remember the exact number, but it was large. I have walked from the Church down the hill to the lake and SDC owns all of that. That space would be ample for expansion, but I have never heard them talk about expanding in this area (This would affect the Cave). I have heard expanding between Powder Keg and Wildfire. At one time they said they wanted to have that area be the “Thrill Ride” section of the park. I have even heard them talk about removing Echo Hollow like I had said in a different post. There is a lot of good land in that section that is not used. I agree with Steve, it wouldn’t be wise to remove there largest venue, so this would probably mean they would build a new one in a different area, but where?
I agree no Civil War themed area. Missouri was too mixed up during that time frame. As for Baldknobbers, they are a part of Marble Cave history. They burned the mining town of Marmaros down, so I can allow that. They do need to do a better job in the queue line and make it clear that they are not the KKK, I have listened to people complain about that. The Balknobbers, I am sure didn’t like anyone who is not 100% the same as them. I have not, however heard that they made any racial claims.
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As for how much do they own, I don’t remember the exact number, but it was large. I have walked from the Church down the hill to the lake and SDC owns all of that. That space would be ample for expansion, but I have never heard them talk about expanding in this area (This would affect the Cave). I have heard expanding between Powder Keg and Wildfire. At one time they said they wanted to have that area be the “Thrill Ride” section of the park. I have even heard them talk about removing Echo Hollow like I had said in a different post. There is a lot of good land in that section that is not used. I agree with Steve, it wouldn’t be wise to remove there largest venue, so this would probably mean they would build a new one in a different area, but where?
Hmmm, I kind of hope they aren't still holding to the idea of keeping all the thrill rides in one place. There is something to be said about keeping rides from overgrowing into SDC's atmosphere too much, but as we saw with TGS, there are better ways to do that than keeping them all bunched in a corner.
Echo Hollow is over 25 years old now, and though it holds around 4,000, I'm sure it's not as well equipped as a new amphitheater could be. I wouldn't be surprised if they have plans to use one of the valleys for a new, larger one soon. Even if they did though, Echo Hollow would still very valuable as it would still be useful for a lot of major productions. So, I really can't see it going anytime soon.
Say, does anyone have a map or something that shows where Marvel Cave really is? I mean, does it really stretch all the way down the valley? Does Wildfire go over part of it?
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I will get a map that shows were the cave is under SDC. The part of the cave that tourist go through is under the Hospitality House, Turn Styles, Eva and Delilah’s Bakery and into the woods on the other side of the Cable Train Tracks. The Lakes Passage is under the homestead and Main Street. The farthest they have been in that direction is under the Flooded Mine, it goes further, but no one has made it up into the difficult passages. They tried back in 2005, but didn’t succeed. The problem is this passage that is under the park has changed tremendously since the opening of SDC and they have taken great measures to nurture the cave. I can’t see them jeopardizing the caves future. Maybe building a new amphitheatre in that are would be alright???
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That would be awesome to see a map that shows exactly where parts of the cave are in relation to areas of the park... It'd be awesome to know while walking around the park when you're walking above the cave. :D
~ "Becky" Joy ~
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Well, I found my answer about the amount of land that SDC/Herschend owns. If you zoom into SDC (it's in the #12 quandrant) on this link...
http://www.stonecomogis.com/stone/
...you can find info on what parcels of land Silver Dollar City Inc. owns, using the circular "i/info" button.
Even cooler is the "Layers" feature on the right. Under "Planimetrics", make sure all the boxes are checked, and you'll see the footprints for American Plunge, Lost River, and even Buzzsaw Falls, as well as all the building footprints. For anyone doing research on the park for Roller Coaster Tycoon or whatever else (like for me, a story I'm writing), this is an awesome tool.
~ "Becky" Joy ~
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Gah, I just spent like 20 minutes trying to get that thing to center on SDC, I can't even get it close. What are the borders of SDC?
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Here you go:
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd129/sdc_joy/Satellite/Land01.jpg)
SDC owns all the land within the red border, with the exception of that little square on the top center. I outlined the land specified as The Wilderness campground in blue.
Later, I'll get some close shots of the building footprints. I gotta say, this tool is a real life-saver with the story I'm writing.
~ "Becky" Joy ~
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Geez, I guess we'll never have to worry about them running out of space. It's no wonder they keep adding on complete new areas.
It's a shame the cave takes up so much area down from Wildfire, just look at how much room there is over there.
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Main Street and Center City are all built on top of the cave, so they still could. They would just have to watch what sinks into the earth. Each time they wash the streets or have any kind spill that would end up in the cave. They would just have to take extra precautions. I think it is the ravines that box in SDC, there are quite a few drop offs. If they don’t want another Hill Street then they would have to bring in a lot of earth to fill the hollows.
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^Meh, I hope they don't try too hard to build around how fat and lazy Americans are. A few sloping streets aren't that bad, especially if they build one of those cool old fashion incline railways.
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Wow that is amazing. They have a lot more land than I thought they did. So what is that little red squre in the top part of the park??
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I *think* it's a lodge, but I'm not sure; it's owned by a company called "Young Life".
And the little bit on the top right that's taken off the corner of the large square is a cemetary or something.
~ "Becky" Joy ~
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Why in the world would someone own a lodge in SDC property?
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Young Life is a Christian organization for youth. During the summer the “Young Lifers” work for SDC and live in the cabins. That is the little red square.
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Ohh! Okay. Thanks for the clarification.
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Wow, what I would have given for that kind of a summer job.
How does SDC own all this random land way out from their parking lots? I can't see them ever needing a lot of it, so I'm surprised they keep paying the taxes for it.
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The goal of Marry Herschend was to keep the area "Green." I have read she cried the day they started putting in a large cement parking lot. Plus you don’t want to end up like Disneyland, being surrounded and not able to grow the way you want to.
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Remember... They do not pay the taxes. The land is leased to them and owned by First Presbyterian church of Branson and the College of the Ozarks. The lease is for a one mile square around the opening of the cave. That looks pretty much what the map shows.
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At one time, I think the plan was to keep the park as "three rings". The inner ring (around the carousel) would be the area focused on young children (This idea has been violated with the addition of the Grand Exposition.) The next ring out was to be a kind of safe area for slower moving patrons (read, senior citizens). This area would be your crafts demonstrations and shopping section of the park. Then the outer ring would be for the more active patrons (read, teenagers). This plan, as I understood it, was pretty well executed and pretty effective. It drew the louder kids out of areas frequented by the old folks, and it accounts for how old and young come out of the park with smiles on their faces and memories in their hearts. Most parks would have the kids running over the elderly, thus alienating a whole section of the population. This plan is still intact with the placement of most of the thrill rides on the edge of the city.
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Huh, so that explains why they looked at putting the Grand Expo at the centre of the city at one point.
It's a good plan, but not necessarily practical as the park continues to branch of and grow. I'd like to see them add more shopping and crafts in the areas around the big thrill rides to kneed them into the city better. It does help the inner city atmosphere not to have a big roller coaster or anything near by though.
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Yeah, can they really go off a plan like that anymore? As Steve said, it'd be hard as the park continues to grow.
^It would suck if they put a roller coaster right in the middle of the city.
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I think the Center City section hasn’t been doing quite as well lately. They are always trying to get people to go there. Every year they seem to be mixing up the shops that are in that location. I even think they are getting rid of the Jewelry shop in Center City. What could they do to make this area successful again? I too would like to see them build up there shops and restaurants near the rides i.e. Powder Keg and Expo.
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^Well, it hasn't happened yet, but I still say that the Landing and centre city are in for a revival someday soon, probably in 2010 -> http://sdcfans.com/forums/index.php?topic=7.0
Anyway, are there any new rumors about what type of coaster will be coming in 2009? I know everyone's probably betting on either a woodie or a G-fighter, but are there any other possibilities? And what of the theme? If they go with a G-fighter, they'll surely try a mining theme, but a woodie could take on a number of themes.
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I think they will be getting a G-fighter. A wooden coaster would be nice. The theme of the park would go well with a Woodie, but SDC is into theme and I would say with the success of DW latest coaster they would swing that way.
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I've gotta say, after seeing Fluch Von Novgorod go up, I'm pretty excited that we're in line for one eventually. http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=724238#724238
The Tower thing just works so well.
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^Hopefully sooner rather than later! ::)
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I know. I just got back from Dollywood and I am soooo jealous of the Mystery Mine. I say send the River Battle to Stone Mountain and give us a Eurofighter of our own in 2010!
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I think we're ready for another B&M coaster -- an inverted back in the trees would be awesome
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I've gotta say, after seeing Fluch Von Novgorod go up, I'm pretty excited that we're in line for one eventually. http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=724238#724238
The Tower thing just works so well.
That looks incredible! ;D
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I hope that is not the case as market share and attendence will continue to slide. Sometimes you must spend money in order to make money.
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I totally agree with you. Hope HFE will too.