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Title: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: marolinesdad on October 01, 2016, 08:51:31 AM
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 The Shuffle has started early.  Raiding the Country Vault is moving to Starlite Theater and #1 Hits of the 60's Moving to Clay Cooper Theater.  Looks like we are also losing a few Shows. 
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sanddunerider on October 02, 2016, 02:49:49 PM
LOL>  started earlier than that.. 

Barry Williams wont be back next year with his 70's Show...

was annunced that Hits of the 60's would be moving to Clay Cooper,  BUT i heard over the weekend that may not be written in stone..  Something about conflict of that show with the new Hot Rods and High Heel show....

Nothing about Patsy Cline relocating yet...

More to come....
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: shavethewhales on October 03, 2016, 10:24:39 PM
So many shows, but none that I would actually drive and park to go see. If there was an actual district with walkable streets, bars, and other entertainment mixed in I might swing by a few shows just to do the full Branson experience, but I'm not going to drive into Branson and park at some random theater so I can see some no-name essentially perform karaoke with crappy country music.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: runner1960 on October 04, 2016, 07:14:26 AM
So many shows, but none that I would actually drive and park to go see. If there was an actual district with walkable streets, bars, and other entertainment mixed in I might swing by a few shows just to do the full Branson experience, but I'm not going to drive into Branson and park at some random theater so I can see some no-name essentially perform karaoke with crappy country music.

Agree, I believe the days of Branson shows is slowly ending. Seems like there are more empty buildings and less choices every year.  I hate to see people preform other peoples music or Karaoke as you say.   
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: HumphreyHawk on October 04, 2016, 10:18:50 AM
So many shows, but none that I would actually drive and park to go see. If there was an actual district with walkable streets, bars, and other entertainment mixed in I might swing by a few shows just to do the full Branson experience, but I'm not going to drive into Branson and park at some random theater so I can see some no-name essentially perform karaoke with crappy country music.

(Slow...clap)...exactly....Branson needs to figure out how to change it's image.  That model is going to die with the baby boom generation that is already starting to die out.  Watching karaoke shows and talent shows is not entertaining anymore....more specifically the idea of them going to Branson and spending a week or weekend just watching these shows day after day and night after night is a laughable.  Branson needs more interactive stuff and personal experience entertainment....give them opportunities to do something and take selfies.....not to just sit and watch.  I'm not hating on any of the shows, talent, or fans of those shows....it's just a part of Branson I know helped built the town but I'm just calling out what I'm seeing.

Branson still has a lot going for it....Between SDC, the outdoor activities, shopping, some of the new attractions are great....it's still positioned to be a great getaway place for families.  They just need to update the music entertainment and respectfully back away from the "Hillibilly Music Capital" stuff.

It's nuts to me that Branson doesn't have a modern amp or arena to bring in mid to major tours/acts?  NWA is getting better concerts that Branson regularly now.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Dewayne on October 10, 2016, 10:05:44 PM
Once I read the Spirit of 76 project, I said, Finally they are realizing that the country crap isnt working anymore because more teens are coming now than old people. They need to update everything and bring in stuff young people would like.

Shave, there is a place to walk along most streets in Branson including 76. It is called a sidewalk, even though it isnt very wide and a bit too close the road. The insane thing is theyre just now thinking about making more places to walk across 76 since there arent many lights.

Cant they use the Grand Palace, RFD, Branson Landing, or Branson Convention Center for big concerts?
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sanddunerider on October 11, 2016, 09:16:05 AM

Cant they use the Grand Palace, RFD, Branson Landing, or Branson Convention Center for big concerts?

They can, also the Mansion a great venue...
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RFD charging too  much,  thats why the haygoods  pulled out 3 years ago,
and more recently foxworthy, and cable guy will be at andy williams this year.. 
Therefore, RFD will be dark again in 2017
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Gilligan on October 11, 2016, 11:07:43 AM
Once I read the Spirit of 76 project, I said, Finally they are realizing that the country crap isnt working anymore because more teens are coming now than old people. They need to update everything and bring in stuff young people would like.

I don't believe it's the country "crap" that turns everyone off, including young people, as witnessed by the billions of dollars they spend on music and videos every year. Most of the Branson shows aren't country.  And those old people?  They're the ones that can afford to spend money in Branson, and that often includes bringing and paying for families and young people. I doubt those teens are planning a week's vacation that cost upwards of $1,000. Those are the people that Branson needs to target?  If more teens than old people are coming, I haven't noticed it, and let's hope they are supervised.

Shave, there is a place to walk along most streets in Branson including 76. It is called a sidewalk, even though it isnt very wide and a bit too close the road. The insane thing is theyre just now thinking about making more places to walk across 76 since there arent many lights.

It's called a sidewalk?  I've always wondered about that...thanks for filling us in.

Cant they use the Grand Palace, RFD, Branson Landing, or Branson Convention Center for big concerts?
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: runner1960 on October 11, 2016, 01:24:19 PM
Once I read the Spirit of 76 project, I said, Finally they are realizing that the country crap isnt working anymore because more teens are coming now than old people. They need to update everything and bring in stuff young people would like.

I don't believe it's the country "crap" that turns everyone off, including young people, as witnessed by the billions of dollars they spend on music and videos every year. Most of the Branson shows aren't country.  And those old people?  They're the ones that can afford to spend money in Branson, and that often includes bringing and paying for families and young people. I doubt those teens are planning a week's vacation that cost upwards of $1,000. Those are the people that Branson needs to target?  If more teens than old people are coming, I haven't noticed it, and let's hope they are supervised.

Shave, there is a place to walk along most streets in Branson including 76. It is called a sidewalk, even though it isnt very wide and a bit too close the road. The insane thing is theyre just now thinking about making more places to walk across 76 since there arent many lights.

It's called a sidewalk?  I've always wondered about that...thanks for filling us in.

Cant they use the Grand Palace, RFD, Branson Landing, or Branson Convention Center for big concerts?

The sidewalks in Branson if you can call them that are terrible. They are a accident waiting to happen. A mix of off camber cracked Asphalt and buckling concrete with on continuous patch. I've tried running on them before and it is a hazard. 76 needs a complete redo. I do believe the days of shows or at least the number they have is on the decline. But, more modern attractions like Fritzes and The Coaster and Ziplines will pull in the younger crowd. Branson is changing slowly. You probably will see more old Theatres come down in the future.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Swoosh on October 11, 2016, 09:06:46 PM
It is FINALLY starting to catch up with Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg

Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Dewayne on October 13, 2016, 10:37:58 PM
Sidewalks terrible? Oh please, Kim Kardashian...  ::) They are a bit too close to the road and may have some cracks in them (you know how many people are afraid of coming across a crack anywhere) but they are still okay to walk on. They get you from point A to point B by walking. What more could you want? A dance club the whole way? I have never seen a sidewalk that is slanted like Grandpas Mansion. It is easy to find cracks outside in most areas, especially sidewalks. Earthquakes and fracking cause the most cracks. A terrible sidewalk would be 1 that isnt really a sidewalk at all: No cement or anything lining where to walk, overgrown grass or tree limbs, or most of the sidewalk being in the street.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: runner1960 on October 13, 2016, 11:29:38 PM
Sidewalks terrible? Oh please, Kim Kardashian...  ::) They are a bit too close to the road and may have some cracks in them (you know how many people are afraid of coming across a crack anywhere) but they are still okay to walk on. They get you from point A to point B by walking. What more could you want? A dance club the whole way? I have never seen a sidewalk that is slanted like Grandpas Mansion. It is easy to find cracks outside in most areas, especially sidewalks. Earthquakes and fracking cause the most cracks. A terrible sidewalk would be 1 that isnt really a sidewalk at all: No cement or anything lining where to walk, overgrown grass or tree limbs, or most of the sidewalk being in the street.

Then you have not walked Bransons sidewalks much have you? Terrible shape. Off camber and dangerous.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Jemmicat on October 14, 2016, 09:01:43 AM
I have to agree with Runner... The sidewalks in most section are not wide enough to handle more than 2 people walking side by side. And in many sections, especially in the White Water area, they are crowned. I always am very careful when walking there as when you have to move over to let people walking the other way by it can get sketchy quickly
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: shavethewhales on October 14, 2016, 01:45:35 PM
Yeah, Laroy, not to pile on or anything, but also heavily disagree.

For reference, here's an interesting example section of 76 on street view: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.6379168,-93.2782025,3a,60y,295.97h,77.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZFn4fU2Yzh03tzwNO-k1Uw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

You can't even tell what's sidewalk and what is street in most areas, and there are so many curb-cuts going into parking lot that most of the time you are dodging cars careening off of the road. It's almost insulting to anyone not in a car. The new section at Pasghetti's is just slightly more pedestrian friendly with larger walkways, highlighted (for what it's worth) crossings, and even some interesting interaction with the new Pasghett's building (again, for what it's worth considering that building and the meatball look like ass).

So you know what I, and most people, have always done? We drive right by. Maybe someday I'll stop at ONE of these attractions, but unlike most other cities I visit I'm not going to park and walk around to do several things at once. Making districts walkable is just plain vital to business these days.

But we've hashed that out before. The reason I brought that up in the first place is because these theatres are the ones that should be pushing for it more than they are. They can keep shuffling all they want, but they'd do ten times the business no matter who is performing if Branson had an actual "district" vibe where people visited for the weekend to park and wander around.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Okiebenz on October 19, 2016, 03:22:09 PM
All the big name entertainers seem to have left Branson in the past several years.  Nobody really big time left anymore
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: HumphreyHawk on October 19, 2016, 04:58:16 PM
Not only has everyone left.....who is out there to replace them?  The 'big' artist who benefited from the cassette/CD sales and record deals don't need a Branson show to survive.  They still have money from the peak period and/or still get digital sales.  I mean.....Garth, Tim McGraw/Faith, Toby,  Reba level of artist could probably run shows the draws but who from that level would want to do it (or do it in Branson).  I'm sure there are some 'B level' artist could do it but they also are probably doing fine by doing the Casino circuit tour a few months a year.

It's easier than ever for new artist to release music but it's harder than ever for new artist to be heard and become 'successful' or popular enough to fill a building by themselves (let alone 3-4 shows a night at the same place).  Bransons best bet might be for some type of 'homegrown' talent making it big.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Swoosh on October 19, 2016, 05:16:11 PM
All the big name entertainers seem to have left Branson in the past several years.  Nobody really big time left anymore

Actually most have retired (or died).  Shoji and the Haygoods are still there. 
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: runner1960 on October 19, 2016, 10:47:35 PM
All the big name entertainers seem to have left Branson in the past several years.  Nobody really big time left anymore

Actually most have retired (or died).  Shoji and the Haygoods are still there.

Yes, But I think he was talking about national acts and not the locals. Haygoods and Shoji aren't known outside Branson.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Okiebenz on October 21, 2016, 08:41:07 AM
Yes, you used to have Andy Williams who died for example. Yakov is gone etc etc etc.  I have never seen Shogi but the last time I was over there a few weeks ago it appears Shogi is now gone also.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sanddunerider on October 21, 2016, 01:33:19 PM
All the big name entertainers seem to have left Branson in the past several years.  Nobody really big time left anymore

Actually most have retired (or died).  Shoji and the Haygoods are still there.

Yes, But I think he was talking about national acts and not the locals. Haygoods and Shoji aren't known outside Branson.

I think you may be selling the Haygoods short...  In recent years they have sang national anthem at the National PBR finals in Vegas,,  they have a had 2 TV shows (series), more recently have done some recordings in nashville,  and of course they have several recording on I-tunes and Your tube...
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: runner1960 on October 21, 2016, 01:41:25 PM
All the big name entertainers seem to have left Branson in the past several years.  Nobody really big time left anymore

Actually most have retired (or died).  Shoji and the Haygoods are still there.

Yes, But I think he was talking about national acts and not the locals. Haygoods and Shoji aren't known outside Branson.

I think you may be selling the Haygoods short...  In recent years they have sang national anthem at the National PBR finals in Vegas,,  they have a had 2 TV shows (series), more recently have done some recordings in nashville,  and of course they have several recording on I-tunes and Your tube...

Sorry, They are still a regional act. No national exposure. Just a good Karaoke group. Now if they top the charts thats a different story. Heck , I could put a recording on You Tube. And the TV show about Barry was not even renewed for a second season on a second tier network. Sorry, I just think they are a good local act that sings other peoples songs. Reminds me of a 1980's Mr Roboto Styx video.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sanddunerider on October 21, 2016, 01:44:39 PM

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Sorry, They are still a regional act. No national exposure. Just a good Karaoke group. Now if they top the charts thats a different story. Heck , I could put a recording on You Tube.
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Karaoke group?  No National exposure?   Really?  LMAO!!  ok runner..  whatever  you think.. Not going to butt heads with you on this topic..  LOL.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: runner1960 on October 21, 2016, 04:46:43 PM
Fanboys will be fanboys. Sorry they ain't all that.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Swoosh on October 22, 2016, 04:33:07 PM
Is it seriously worth arguing about and now name calling?   Ridiculous. 
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: biscuitcreek on October 22, 2016, 08:09:19 PM
There are recognizable acts who are now performing in Branson on a 1 or 2 night basis -- Jay Leno, David Cassidy, Loretta Lynn, Larry the Cable Guy, Jeff Foxworthy, Bill Engvall, the Oak Ridge Boys, Pam Tillis, Peter Noone of Herman's Hermits, Charley Pride, BJ Thomas, Rhonda Vincent, Dailey and Vincent, T. Graham Brown, Ronnie Milsap, and more.

In the 90s some of the names I mentioned had regular Branson shows but these days more performers have decided the way to make a living is to be on tour. When Shoji's theater is dark, he is usually out on the road.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sirwillow on October 28, 2016, 02:08:01 AM

I think you may be selling the Haygoods short...  In recent years they have sang national anthem at the National PBR finals in Vegas,,  they have a had 2 TV shows (series), more recently have done some recordings in nashville,  and of course they have several recording on I-tunes and Your tube...

Up til we moved here 5 years ago we'd never heard of the Haygoods.  Or the Presleys.  Or the Baldknobbers.  Barely remembered the Duttons from AGT.  Honsetly, America's Got Talent may be the best advertising for the Branson shows in general at this point.

But....  I know in talking with some of my friends who work in the shows, they said that in many ways this was a better year for them.  The shows that have been doing well had more sell outs and big crowds this year.  And you can see several things in Branson changing/ being added with younger people in mind.  The alpine coaster.  The giant wheel.  The adventure park.  The baseball complexes.  The remodeling of the strip.  So there are positives happening.

I'm just waiting for some of the big youtube stars to start moving in, as I wouldn't be surprised if that happens at some point.  Lindsey Sterling, the Piano Guys, Peter Hollens, etc.  If some of them started coming in, that would be a quick, big revitalization of the shows as that's where a lot of the music entertainment is coming from now.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Jemmicat on October 28, 2016, 08:09:04 AM
I have been coming to Branson since I was a kid in the mid-70's. My family vacationed there for about 2-3 weeks total each year. I have seen a lot of things come and go and many changes - some for the better and some not so much. We have seen most of the "major" shows many times over the years and many shows that are no longer there.

When I was a kid, the Presley's shows was my favorite. I hadn't been to any concerts or anything so that was impressive. TV wasn't what it is now. There was no youtube. So it really impressed a young me.

As I've gotten older, my expectations have changed. My daughter and I had been going to Branson since she was 2 (she is now 18) and we tried some of the shows but they just weren't the same. We took my girlfriend's daughters to Presley's earlier in the year and they didn't care for it...

I have now moved to Springfield, MO, this summer and have been down to Branson a lot of weekends and some nights. There are area appreciation days where you can see shows very reasonably. I saw the Haygoods for the first time this way. It was $5 a ticket and the gas to drive to and from Branson. It was just something to do... But I absolutely loved that show. It was more like a concert than a performance. it didn't pander to patriotism or religion but was just them playing, singing and having fun.

My problem with most of shows and Branson in general is the pandering to religion and patriotism. I know in general that they are playing to the audience... but they have not caught on that their audience is changing. While I respect people who have served in the military (I never could... I have what is called a "problem with authority"), it goes too far IMHO when they are being thanked for all our freedoms when I think WW2 was the last fighting that really was for our freedoms.And people my age (44) and younger don't have as strong of ties to religion and I generally shun most things overtly religious...

I they want to survive, they need to understand their target demographics have changed. And adapt
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Joy on October 28, 2016, 11:45:52 PM
You've got EXCELLENT points, Jemmi, and I totally agree.

And sirwillow, I would LOVE it if someone like Lindsey Stirling came to Branson! Someone I could see doing well in Branson would be Thomas Sanders; he's always tried his hardest to keep all his vines/vids/posts/etc family-friendly. He's like a real-life Disney prince. Love him!
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: runner1960 on October 29, 2016, 08:19:37 AM
I have been coming to Branson since I was a kid in the mid-70's. My family vacationed there for about 2-3 weeks total each year. I have seen a lot of things come and go and many changes - some for the better and some not so much. We have seen most of the "major" shows many times over the years and many shows that are no longer there.

When I was a kid, the Presley's shows was my favorite. I hadn't been to any concerts or anything so that was impressive. TV wasn't what it is now. There was no youtube. So it really impressed a young me.

As I've gotten older, my expectations have changed. My daughter and I had been going to Branson since she was 2 (she is now 18) and we tried some of the shows but they just weren't the same. We took my girlfriend's daughters to Presley's earlier in the year and they didn't care for it...

I have now moved to Springfield, MO, this summer and have been down to Branson a lot of weekends and some nights. There are area appreciation days where you can see shows very reasonably. I saw the Haygoods for the first time this way. It was $5 a ticket and the gas to drive to and from Branson. It was just something to do... But I absolutely loved that show. It was more like a concert than a performance. it didn't pander to patriotism or religion but was just them playing, singing and having fun.

My problem with most of shows and Branson in general is the pandering to religion and patriotism. I know in general that they are playing to the audience... but they have not caught on that their audience is changing. While I respect people who have served in the military (I never could... I have what is called a "problem with authority"), it goes too far IMHO when they are being thanked for all our freedoms when I think WW2 was the last fighting that really was for our freedoms.And people my age (44) and younger don't have as strong of ties to religion and I generally shun most things overtly religious...

I they want to survive, they need to understand their target demographics have changed. And adapt

Jemmi, I dislike all the pandering also. I have quit all the Branson shows too. But I am excited about some of the new more modern attractions popping up.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: marolinesdad on October 29, 2016, 09:20:52 PM
I guess I am the only one that comes to Branson because of the patriotic and more importantly for the Christian atmosphere.  I am 42 and have 2 children.  I appreciate that I can take my children to these shows and not have to worry what they see any hear.  And before you think I only take my girls to religious things we also go to New York and have taken them to see broadway shows like Rent and Book of Mormon.   I go to Branson because it is Branson and we go to New York to see New York.   By the way my girls are 11 and 13. 
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Swoosh on October 30, 2016, 08:25:13 PM
I'm curious why they haven't built a theatre big enough to handle traveling Broadway shows and live concerts.  The Grand Palace could have filled that need but it's pretty much beyond repair by now
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: runner1960 on October 31, 2016, 06:26:57 AM
I'm curious why they haven't built a theatre big enough to handle traveling Broadway shows and live concerts.  The Grand Palace could have filled that need but it's pretty much beyond repair by now

And all the extra land available there would make a great venue for open air festivals. Dual stages and different bands on multiple days. I think city officials frown on this sort of activity though. I do not think they want that demographic.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: mhguy77 on October 31, 2016, 09:11:39 AM
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I'm curious why they haven't built a theatre big enough to handle traveling Broadway shows and live concerts.  The Grand Palace could have filled that need but it's pretty much beyond repair by now

I had hoped that with the Little Mermaid starting a cpl years ago they would stick there toes into traveling shows.  You would trhink that if they got Wicked for 2 weeks they could fill the seats.  I am afraid that the Mermaid debacle set us back.  A group of us go to special shows in Branson often and It seems they have a promotion problem.  We have been to many shows that were not 25% full, these were good shows with big names but as the season progressed they seemed to catch on. I went to see Loretta Lynn and they were full to the gills.  They could certainly offer concerts without rap or death metal bands.  I think they need good promotion and as mentioned a larger theater.  I am thinking the largest room in Branson right now would be 3000.  That may just not be enough for some big acts but that is large enough for a play.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Gilligan on October 31, 2016, 10:26:08 AM
I've heard this idea of traveling shows before.  My thought is always the same:  How many people would come to Branson to see a big name show? Personally, I'd rather see it where I live and save my time and money for doing other things in Branson. But, I don't really have an interest in seeing any shows in Branson, so I realize I'm not the demographic they're shooting for.   Well, other than Shepherd of the Hills, Dixie Stampede, and the Showboat. I do enjoy those.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Joy on October 31, 2016, 04:26:36 PM
Springfield pretty much has that region covered when it comes to traveling shows; while I was attending MSU, I saw The Beauty and the Beast, Shrek: The Musical, and more. They've even gotten Wicked.

For Branson, I'd say a permanent show might be a better choice; like how Las Vegas had a permanent, specifically-built theater for Phantom of the Opera. Like, I know that if I wanted to go see a Broadway show closer to home, I could take a train or bus to Chicago, where they have more permanent theaters for stuff like that.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Jemmicat on October 31, 2016, 05:55:11 PM
I think the biggest problem with the Branson shows is the price. I mean, when I can buy a ticket for $20 to see Marshall Crenshaw and The Bottlerockets play original music that they recorded or pay $38 for glorified karaoke with comedy, there is a problem. When I can spend money to see Cheap Trick and it is only slightly more than shows at Branson, there is a problem.

I am lucky in that I am not really hurting for income. But an average family cannot afford to see the shows even if they wanted to. Price them more reasonable and people will come.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: mhguy77 on October 31, 2016, 06:01:41 PM
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Springfield pretty much has that region covered when it comes to traveling shows; while I was attending MSU, I saw The Beauty and the Beast, Shrek: The Musical, and more. They've even gotten Wicked.

They get shows at Juanita K but the shows are way too high and frankly the theater sucks badly.  I have seen shows there and the theater is lacking.  If you live in this area as I do you would know its really a loss up between Fayatville / Rogers and Springfield.  Being that they are both a reasonable drive you could replace the old country shows with a special production on your vacation.  I myself will often plan trips around a good show and if they did it right in Branson you could kill 2 birds with one stone.  Its a nice mini vacation when you can pair a show with a day at SDC or messing around in Branson.  They have the buildings and the possibility is there.  I would think that the SDC folks would also like to see this done as it can only help them. Maybe I am off base but if they did a cpl of weeks maybe 3 or 4 at the most with a good, well advertised show they could probably fill the seats.  They would maybe want to make it 5 nights a week.  What ever they do in Branson they have to make money first and foremost.  Sometimes we forget that $$ is the name of the game and that means full theaters. 
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: misskim on October 31, 2016, 06:43:15 PM
I think the biggest problem with the Branson shows is the price. I mean, when I can buy a ticket for $20 to see Marshall Crenshaw and The Bottlerockets play original music that they recorded or pay $38 for glorified karaoke with comedy, there is a problem. When I can spend money to see Cheap Trick and it is only slightly more than shows at Branson, there is a problem.

I am lucky in that I am not really hurting for income. But an average family cannot afford to see the shows even if they wanted to. Price them more reasonable and people will come.

See, I was thinking the opposite. Wicked was just in town here and the tickets were $75/person for balcony seats. Even though I'd love to see it, I couldn't make myself pay that much for tickets. It's significantly more than I've ever paid to see a show in Branson. I can find much more reasonable tickets in Branson, especially if the theater uses Half Price Tickets. When my kids were younger, we used family passes to get our family of 5 in to see a show for about the same as one ticket to Wicked would have been.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: mhguy77 on October 31, 2016, 07:21:43 PM
Where do you live? Tickets in Springfield were 200
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Swoosh on October 31, 2016, 08:09:58 PM
SMS has only 4 shows a year, far from having the corner marketed. 
You build a nice theatre and you'll get the shows.  I know I have planned trips around seeing shows before. 
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Preachin_Bill on November 01, 2016, 12:53:34 PM
I guess I am the only one that comes to Branson because of the patriotic and more importantly for the Christian atmosphere.  I am 42 and have 2 children.  I appreciate that I can take my children to these shows and not have to worry what they see any hear.  And before you think I only take my girls to religious things we also go to New York and have taken them to see broadway shows like Rent and Book of Mormon.   I go to Branson because it is Branson and we go to New York to see New York.   By the way my girls are 11 and 13.
You aren't.  I'm one of four siblings under 40, all with multiple kids, and one of the reason we love Branson and SDC in general is because Patriotism and Christianity are heralded and not shunned or hidden.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Preachin_Bill on November 01, 2016, 12:56:23 PM
I think the biggest problem with the Branson shows is the price. I mean, when I can buy a ticket for $20 to see Marshall Crenshaw and The Bottlerockets play original music that they recorded or pay $38 for glorified karaoke with comedy, there is a problem. When I can spend money to see Cheap Trick and it is only slightly more than shows at Branson, there is a problem.

I am lucky in that I am not really hurting for income. But an average family cannot afford to see the shows even if they wanted to. Price them more reasonable and people will come.
This.  Glorified karaoke is Branson's problem.  Young people realize this isn't really talent at all, especially for that price.  I can go to the piano bar and listen to good karaoke and drink a beer, too, for five bucks.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Swoosh on November 01, 2016, 06:52:46 PM
A resident Blue Man Group show would probably go over well in Branson.

The problem with millennials and going to shows is that they have a hard time doing their whole "multi-tasking" constantly updating their social media feeds with live updates.  To them it is not just enough to go experience something - you have to have all of your "followers" live it vicariously through you.  Successful shows have accepted that concept and have run with it
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sirwillow on November 01, 2016, 07:00:56 PM

This.  Glorified karaoke is Branson's problem.  Young people realize this isn't really talent at all, especially for that price.  I can go to the piano bar and listen to good karaoke and drink a beer, too, for five bucks.

You guys make it sound like that is all that the Branson shows are.  There are a LOT of them that are not that at all.  Are there some?  Sure. But quite a few don't fit into that.  If you don't want to see that, then don't.  Go see some of the other shows.  There are acrobats, illusionists, huge stage productions, original singers, animals, pure comedy, variety shows, dinner on a boat or at a Stampede, and plenty of other things to do as well, with all of the min golf, go carts, zip lines, museums, and much more.

Can it use a bit more variety?  Maybe.  But one of the wonderful things about Branson is the large variety.  And if you haven't seen it, then you aren't looking.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: biscuitcreek on November 01, 2016, 07:46:30 PM
I'm curious why they haven't built a theatre big enough to handle traveling Broadway shows and live concerts.  The Grand Palace could have filled that need but it's pretty much beyond repair by now

What number of seats is needed? The Mansion seats 3000.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Swoosh on November 01, 2016, 08:40:41 PM
I'm curious why they haven't built a theatre big enough to handle traveling Broadway shows and live concerts.  The Grand Palace could have filled that need but it's pretty much beyond repair by now

What number of seats is needed? The Mansion seats 3000.

It's the stage height and depth that is the main problem. 
However most theatres that host touring shows are at least double that if not more.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sirwillow on November 03, 2016, 07:58:33 AM


However most theatres that host touring shows are at least double that if not more.

Juanita Hammons hall in Springfield, which does host some of the traveling shows, seats 2264 people.  The theater we would go watch similar shows in Tampa when they rolled through (their theater for performing arts) was under 2000.

And the Kaufman theater in KC, which is hosting Phantom of the Opera early next year, seats only 1800.  So that's not true in many cases.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Gilligan on November 03, 2016, 09:50:00 AM


However most theatres that host touring shows are at least double that if not more.

Juanita Hammons hall in Springfield, which does host some of the traveling shows, seats 2264 people.  The theater we would go watch similar shows in Tampa when they rolled through (their theater for performing arts) was under 2000.

And the Kaufman theater in KC, which is hosting Phantom of the Opera early next year, seats only 1800.  So that's not true in many cases.

Would the Andy Williams Theatre be large enough?  I haven't been there in years, but it seemed to hold quite a few people and the stage seemed large then. 
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sirwillow on November 03, 2016, 10:37:22 AM

Would the Andy Williams Theatre be large enough?  I haven't been there in years, but it seemed to hold quite a few people and the stage seemed large then.

I'm not sure if it's stage is large enough.  It seats about 2,000, but I'm not sure how roomy the stage is exactly.  But there are theaters that could do it.

The White House theater maybe.  It's production of Marco Polo was close, but again I'm not quite sure if it's a big enough stage.  It's close though.  The Mansion possibly.  I'm sure the Grand Palace could, but don't know that they'll ever actually reopen it - though with the recent purchase there's hope.  I know it tried to do some similar things there before, but it's possible it could be made to work.

Sight and Sound has shown that it's feasible to run a theater in Brandon doing those kinds of big productions.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: runner1960 on November 03, 2016, 12:38:32 PM
Sometimes it is the Depth of the stage that matters. I know the Fox in St. Louis upgraded several years ago because a lot of shows were to big for the depth of the stage. Most stages in Branson are not built for these types of shows. It would be nice if some investor would see the potential and build a Broadway touring capable venue.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sanddunerider on November 03, 2016, 03:20:27 PM
RFD seats about 2500 (i think), 
stage there is very large.  deep, wide and tall...   
I realize not enough seats for BIG names...... 
BUT.........
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: History Buff on November 03, 2016, 03:32:38 PM
Don't overlook the theater on the PSU campus, (Pittsburg, Kansas).  They are hosting a number of traveling shows from Broadway.  I helped unload the Lion King set and put it together, last year, before dressing some of the actors backstage for the actual performances.  I'm not sure of the shows for '17, but they were fully attended, this year.  The theater has all of the amenities for these big shows.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Swoosh on November 03, 2016, 06:33:54 PM
Don't overlook the theater on the PSU campus, (Pittsburg, Kansas).  They are hosting a number of traveling shows from Broadway.  I helped unload the Lion King set and put it together, last year, before dressing some of the actors backstage for the actual performances.  I'm not sure of the shows for '17, but they were fully attended, this year.  The theater has all of the amenities for these big shows.

The issue with the SMS and PSU theatres are they are usually very short stays.  Maybe one weekend at max. 
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: mhguy77 on November 03, 2016, 07:40:44 PM
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The issue with the SMS and PSU theatres are they are usually very short stays.  Maybe one weekend at max. 
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Maybe that effects the price of the shows.  As stated Wicked was quite high, I dont pay that much in Chicago.  I would love to see shows go into Branson, it seems like a good fit if they had the stage for it.  If they could do 75-125 a ticket (cheaper in the bleeds) I think they could fill them with a good show with a semi limited run.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Swoosh on November 03, 2016, 10:43:37 PM
I pay $75-80 per ticket at the Fox for my seats per show.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: mhguy77 on November 04, 2016, 06:39:13 AM
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I pay $75-80 per ticket at the Fox for my seats per show.
Thats not bad for a good show, in fact depending on seats its pretty cheap
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sanddunerider on November 08, 2016, 06:06:57 AM
Announced today!!   Six!! is moving to The Hughes Brothers.. 

I for one am very surprised at this decsion... 

they will have m-w-f at 8,  and t-th-s at 2..
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sirwillow on November 08, 2016, 06:57:33 AM
Wait... Wuh???  Ok, had to drop over to their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/SixBros/?fref=ts
And they have the announcement there announcing the move and the times for next year.  In digging through the comments, you can see why.

Apparently Mickey Gilley has sold the theater (no surprise there) but it wasn't to the Knudsen's (that's a surprise, as I thought they had a plan in place for them to buy it).  And with the new owners coming in, that meant that SIX was out.  So they're going back to where they started.

I'm honestly shocked.  I thought that SIX was in the process of buying the theater from Gilley.  I wonder what happened to that plan and what caused it to fall through and go to other new owners instead.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sanddunerider on November 08, 2016, 08:02:24 AM
Wait... Wuh???  Ok, had to drop over to their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/SixBros/?fref=ts
And they have the announcement there announcing the move and the times for next year.  In digging through the comments, you can see why.

Apparently Mickey Gilley has sold the theater (no surprise there) but it wasn't to the Knudsen's (that's a surprise, as I thought they had a plan in place for them to buy it).  And with the new owners coming in, that meant that SIX was out.  So they're going back to where they started.

I'm honestly shocked.  I thought that SIX was in the process of buying the theater from Gilley.  I wonder what happened to that plan and what caused it to fall through and go to other new owners instead.

Uh..!?   Yes there are several details that will come out about this move..  Lots of questions will be asked now.  may get answers... may not.
With empty theatres I am surprised also.  Lots of other options, The Americana would have been a good one for them.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sirwillow on November 08, 2016, 09:42:17 AM
With empty theatres I am surprised also.  Lots of other options, The Americana would have been a good one for them.

it's to small for them.  They need more seating and a bigger stage than what the Americana has.

What will be interesting is to see where AYO/ Voices of Glory end up, as Six/ Hughes Brothers will essentially be taking their time slots and splitting them between the two.  I can see them at the Americana if they can get someone else to share it with them.  Or a couple of the other theaters in town that need something.

Hate seeing RFD theater sitting empty.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sanddunerider on November 08, 2016, 09:48:44 AM
With empty theatres I am surprised also.  Lots of other options, The Americana would have been a good one for them.

it's to small for them.  They need more seating and a bigger stage than what the Americana has.

What will be interesting is to see where AYO/ Voices of Glory end up, as Six/ Hughes Brothers will essentially be taking their time slots and splitting them between the two.  I can see them at the Americana if they can get someone else to share it with them.  Or a couple of the other theaters in town that need something.

Hate seeing RFD theater sitting empty.

It is a shame about RFD, But that is their owner..  HE doesnt care if it sits empty,,,

AYO?  maybe they will move to a morning slot at Hughes.. Or maybe morning 2 or 3 days, and afternoon when SIX isnt playing..  We dont know if hughes is going to afternoon slot, OR only 3 nights a week...  LOts of vague info out there on this move....  LOL...  hopefully answers will come in, inquiring minds want to know....
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: biscuitcreek on November 08, 2016, 10:36:59 AM
Wait... Wuh???  Ok, had to drop over to their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/SixBros/?fref=ts
And they have the announcement there announcing the move and the times for next year.  In digging through the comments, you can see why.

Apparently Mickey Gilley has sold the theater (no surprise there) but it wasn't to the Knudsen's (that's a surprise, as I thought they had a plan in place for them to buy it).  And with the new owners coming in, that meant that SIX was out.  So they're going back to where they started.

I'm honestly shocked.  I thought that SIX was in the process of buying the theater from Gilley.  I wonder what happened to that plan and what caused it to fall through and go to other new owners instead.

Yes, I thought there was a big public announcement last year about Mickey Gilley selling his theater to the Knudsens. Does make you wonder what happened.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sirwillow on November 08, 2016, 03:36:50 PM

It is a shame about RFD, But that is their owner..  HE doesnt care if it sits empty,,,

AYO?  maybe they will move to a morning slot at Hughes.. Or maybe morning 2 or 3 days, and afternoon when SIX isnt playing..  We dont know if hughes is going to afternoon slot, OR only 3 nights a week...  LOts of vague info out there on this move....  LOL...  hopefully answers will come in, inquiring minds want to know....

One of the SIX brothers said on Facebook that they will be alternating afternoon and evening slots with the Hughes.  So except for Sundays when neither performs it will be one in the afternoon and the other in the evening every day.  So there won't be any afternoon slots open.

Hughes has another couple of shows in the morning, and that could change, but I don't see AYO moving to the morning when there are less people who watch.  They're popular enough that they are an afternoon show at the least, and maybe ready to take over an evening slot.  With SIX coming it, it looks like it leaves them out in the cold.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sanddunerider on November 26, 2016, 05:02:15 PM
So Billy Dean announced He will be at Jim Stafford next year,,

Don Dyer will be at The Americana,

Janice Martin also moving to The Americana,  not sure if she will be in her own show (Which i doubt), or if she will with CL in the Patsy Cline Show.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sanddunerider on December 17, 2016, 08:23:30 AM
Announced Yestarday that AYO will be at starlite theatre,,,   LOL. 

I wondered where they would land after Six moved to Hughes Brotheres,,,

 
Starlite is a nicer Venue anyway,,,
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: Gilligan on December 17, 2016, 01:13:24 PM
I really enjoyed the Starlite when Liverpool Legends were there.  I thought it was the perfect venue for that show.  Are they even around anymore? 
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sanddunerider on December 17, 2016, 01:17:15 PM
I really enjoyed the Starlite when Liverpool Legends were there.  I thought it was the perfect venue for that show.  Are they even around anymore?

They had shows through mid november this year... Nothing on the website about 2017, but i would expect them back.  i think they draw pretty good crowds
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sirwillow on December 17, 2016, 02:30:35 PM
Announced Yestarday that AYO will be at starlite theatre,,,   LOL. 

I wondered where they would land after Six moved to Hughes Brotheres,,,

 
Starlite is a nicer Venue anyway,,,

Good to know.  I figured they were going to have to move after the SIX announcement, but couldn't see them leaving.  Hopefully it'll be a good spot for them.
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sanddunerider on December 17, 2016, 02:44:00 PM
Announced Yestarday that AYO will be at starlite theatre,,,   LOL. 

I wondered where they would land after Six moved to Hughes Brotheres,,,

 
Starlite is a nicer Venue anyway,,,

Good to know.  I figured they were going to have to move after the SIX announcement, but couldn't see them leaving.  Hopefully it'll be a good spot for them.

I would like to have been a fly on the wall with that discussion.... "Oh hey, Sorry, we are bringing in six, and keeping forever young, you will have to find someplace else to sing"....
Title: Re: The Branson Shuffle starts early
Post by: sanddunerider on December 17, 2016, 05:33:04 PM
Found this link on 1branson.   summs up the moves on this years Branson Shuffle.....

http://bransontrilakesnews.com/entertainment/article_7d574132-c3ca-11e6-80b7-93bfc0e39232.html