SDCFans - The Unofficial Fan Site For Silver Dollar City
Silver Dollar City & Celebration City Discussion => Construction/Rumors => Topic started by: biscuitcreek on May 27, 2016, 04:45:56 PM
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Just completed a survey about another new attraction. Concept 2 was shown first -- about a bucking and spinning ride based on riding a bull associated with the Buffalo Bill Wild West Show. Proposed names were Rodeo, Trick Rider, and Round Up. Most of the questions were about this concept. Then concept 1 was shown -- about an attraction where mining cars go out of control. No real questions about this attraction but was asked which concept I preferred based on reading about the concepts.
There were also the usual questions about how many times I had visited SDC in the past 12 months, was I a season pass holder within the last 3 years, etc.
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Just completed a survey about another new attraction. Concept 2 was shown first -- about a bucking and spinning ride based on riding a bull associated with the Buffalo Bill Wild West Show. Proposed names were Rodeo, Trick Rider, and Round Up. Most of the questions were about this concept. Then concept 1 was shown -- about an attraction where mining cars go out of control. No real questions about this attraction but was asked which concept I preferred based on reading about the concepts.
There were also the usual questions about how many times I had visited SDC in the past 12 months, was I a season pass holder within the last 3 years, etc.
Spinning coaster, both of them.
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I too received the survey. Was disappointed to have more questions on concept two over concept one.
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So how do you get signed up for these? I regularly get the customer experience email surveys but not the attraction ones. When I did the signup I thought I would get both? No?
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Weird how they would ask specific questions about one, but not the other. I wonder if this survey means anything, or if it's another red herring or just a general gauge of interest sort of thing.
What kind of bucking and spinning ride? Did it look like anything you recognized in any other park? Out of control mining carts could be anything - that's the easiest theme SDC could go for (and is basically what TNT is about).
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Conecpt 2
One drawing showed people entering a large barn. 2 different arches were drawn. Some Buffalo Bill posters. Looked like a big tower with a major drop and some trees. The car was brown, from the drawing couldn't tell if it held 2 or 4 people, lines implied spinning. Notation of audio stampede sounds. All of these were separate drawings on one page like they were all drawn on 1 page of a sketch pad.
Here's the description given:
"Buffalo Bill is an American Legend. Young men and women dream of riding along side him in his famous show, but before you can head out on the road with the American adventurer, you have to prove your mettle at Silver Dollar City
Only the bravest and finest cowboys can take on the biggest, meanest, most onery bulls this side of the Mississippi! Climb aboard your bull and hold on tight as the massive beast takes off, doing his mighty best to shake you from his back. But watch out! Just when you think you are close to taming the beast, he spins you powerfully in another direction."
Concept 1
Drawing of a large building with a big tower on the back. Drawing of 4 cars plunging almost straight down from the tower. Other drawings were mine related -- signs, tools, etc.
Here's the description:
"All that glitters may not be real. Can you tell the difference? Find out as you travel in search of the mysterious "silver caves" rumored to be in the unexplored parts of the Silver Dollar City mountains. But beware! Many an explorer before you has lost their way in search of riches.
An eery, howling wind fills the air adding to the uneasy feeling that it is not good to explore abandoned mines. By the time you catch glimpse of the ramshackle entrance, it's too late to go back. Your cart starts careening, spinning out of control as you fly by forgotten mining equipment. Exploring is an adventure, but will this hair-raising journey end in riches??!!"
Both rides sound like spinning coasters.
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I got the survey yesterday as well and took the time to fill it out. As has been mentioned, Concept 2 featuring Buffalo Bill had most of the survey dedicated to it. The conceptual artwork wasn't too bad and clearly depicted a spinning coaster. It talked about climbing aboard your bull and holding on. It said you had to master your craft at Silver Dollar City before heading out with Buffalo Bill on the show circuit. The survey wanted you to provide what you thought would be the best name for the ride.
Concept 1 was only briefly mentioned and referenced silver caves. It talked about an abandoned mine and searching for the caves in the unexplored parts of Silver Dollar City's mountains. It also showed some conceptual artwork. They wanted know which concept you preferred and if either project would be more likely to have you visit SDC. This was the first survey I had gotten in some time.
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"All that glitters may not be real. Can you tell the difference? Find out as you travel in search of the mysterious "silver caves" rumored to be in the unexplored parts of the Silver Dollar City mountains. But beware! Many an explorer before you has lost their way in search of riches.
An eery, howling wind fills the air adding to the uneasy feeling that it is not good to explore abandoned mines. By the time you catch glimpse of the ramshackle entrance, it's too late to go back. Your cart starts careening, spinning out of control as you fly by forgotten mining equipment. Exploring is an adventure, but will this hair-raising journey end in riches??!!"
That sounds almost exactly like the wording they used to advertise Mystery Mine. I'm thinking they're looking at an enclosed gerstauler spinning coaster? That would be pretty awesome. I'd rather have a traditional G-fighter, but I'll take anything that's mostly enclosed and highly thematic.
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It could be that this is a hint to 2017 and a future project. The mine is right for the area in question, but it looks that they may add to the western/farm area in the future. They've tried to pitch a Pony Express coaster in the past with riders on horses, but Buffalo Bill may be more of a flat concept. With this survey, they may just be probing for possible names.
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My vote is the mine. Inside and outside, highly themed, caves etc. and would fit with thunderation. But as others have said its already been decided.
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My vote is the mine. Inside and outside, highly themed, caves etc. and would fit with thunderation. But as others have said its already been decided.
My vote is the mine, also. Because I liked this concept better, I had only negative comments to make about the Buffalo Bill attraction, and zero comments about what I liked about it until I wasn't able to progress in the survey. You can't go on to the next page without stating what you liked about it.
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I vote for anything NOT a spinning coaster, which both concepts sound like...
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Buffalo bill - no...........no.....no. No. No. NO. NO! NO! NONONONO!!!
Mine all the way. Much better theme people will love a lot more. I think any indoor ride would be best for SDC, no matter what ride it is. If part or all of it is outdoors, I still think it will be a Suspended, because of what was shown on Undercover Boss.
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Yeah definitely a big no on their fixation with more spinning rides. They got plenty in the GE and FL areas. And I hope they are not running out of ideas and trying to turn the park into another Frontier City or SFOT theme park with more emphasis on generic 1880's wild west themes intead of 1880's Ozark themes.
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I actually like the way they do stuff at Frontier City. Its just a great park. I never even notice the theme, which is the good part. The music, as usual I wish wasnt there, which is why Halloween is the best time to go. I hate OR and I dont really care for TGS because of the themes, so I rarely go over there. I never knew SFOT ever did a western theme. I thought it was an all around excellent park like every other Six Flags is.
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I vote for anything NOT a spinning coaster, which both concepts sound like...
I couldn't agree more Tinmann. I love a Buffalo Bill concept ride but a spinning coaster would be a "no-ride" or a "too sick to ride anything else the rest of the day" ride for me
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If they do something like Cobra's Curse with the elevator lift and 3 different sections it might be fine. You're only free spinning the last 3rd of the ride
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I actually like the way they do stuff at Frontier City. Its just a great park. I never even notice the theme, which is the good part. The music, as usual I wish wasnt there, which is why Halloween is the best time to go. I hate OR and I dont really care for TGS because of the themes, so I rarely go over there. I never knew SFOT ever did a western theme. I thought it was an all around excellent park like every other Six Flags is.
I've never actually been to a Six Flags park, but based off of pictures I don't think Six Flags parks are very comparable to SDC and you're making it sound like they are all better than SDC. I also see nothing wrong with the theming of OR and the Barn Swing.
On topic, I will be very disappointed if this ride turns out to be a spinning or family coaster since all signs up to this point have pointed towards a B&M of some sort.
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On topic, I will be very disappointed if this ride turns out to be a spinning or family coaster since all signs up to this point have pointed towards a B&M of some sort.
Same here, BUT maybe we have it all wrong and they are actually checking opinions for the 2020 ride and maybe the rumored Dive Coaster was actually for 2017 after all and it would fit the $30-$40 million price tag better. It would also work with that section of the park by TNT as they could theme it to cave explorers "diving" into the cave. In fact it seems very plausible the more I think about it.
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What I fear and don't desire at all is a ride like Spinning Dragons at World's of Fun.
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I think this survey is for 2020. I do not agree with the Buffalo Bill theme though. This is no more Ozark than the Hatfields and McCoys are. Stick with the local lore and legends to theme the rides.
Does it seem to anyone else they are trying to cowboy the place up more all the time ? Instead of sticking to the original theme.
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I will be very disappointed if they go with a spinning coaster. I really think the park needs a giga. No inversions, just all out height, speed, and lots of airtime. I'm curious why they have never been rumored to be looking at any intamin coasters. They have more options than any other coaster company and are usually more thrilling than even B&M.
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I will be very disappointed if they go with a spinning coaster. I really think the park needs a giga. No inversions, just all out height, speed, and lots of airtime. I'm curious why they have never been rumored to be looking at any intamin coasters. They have more options than any other coaster company and are usually more thrilling than even B&M.
I will refer you to The Lost River...
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Which is why I said Intamin COASTERS
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I think this survey is for 2020. I do not agree with the Buffalo Bill theme though. This is no more Ozark than the Hatfields and McCoys are. Stick with the local lore and legends to theme the rides.
Does it seem to anyone else they are trying to cowboy the place up more all the time ? Instead of sticking to the original theme.
They are just expanding the theme - not changing it. Ever thought that they might be looking at ways to redo the Grand Expo and that a Wild Bill's Western Show coming to town would make more sense than a World's Fair?
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If they do something like Cobra's Curse with the elevator lift and 3 different sections it might be fine. You're only free spinning the last 3rd of the ride
That may not be so bad. I could always take motion sickness meds before riding it.
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I am Team Mystery Mine. It seems to fit better. I feel that it fits with not only TNT but the FM and pays tribute to Rube Dugans Diving Bell. If they are able to do it right they might even be able to bring it back in this format.
But I do however like the Buffalo Bill theme. Just not the spinning coaster part. Not a fan.
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I will be very disappointed if they go with a spinning coaster. I really think the park needs a giga. No inversions, just all out height, speed, and lots of airtime. I'm curious why they have never been rumored to be looking at any intamin coasters. They have more options than any other coaster company and are usually more thrilling than even B&M.
and have a higher down time... but please continue.
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I think this survey is for 2020. I do not agree with the Buffalo Bill theme though. This is no more Ozark than the Hatfields and McCoys are. Stick with the local lore and legends to theme the rides.
Does it seem to anyone else they are trying to cowboy the place up more all the time ? Instead of sticking to the original theme.
They are just expanding the theme - not changing it. Ever thought that they might be looking at ways to redo the Grand Expo and that a Wild Bill's Western Show coming to town would make more sense than a World's Fair?
That's true. The western style fits more with the theme/time period. And even though I loved the original Stagecoach ride at the City I'm very happy they paid homage to it by making Outlaw Run a "stagecoach themed" ride.
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Does it seem to anyone else they are trying to cowboy the place up more all the time ? Instead of sticking to the original theme.
Exactly what I think everyday. Makes me sick! This is not a cowboy park. Go somewhere else if you want that.
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Does it seem to anyone else they are trying to cowboy the place up more all the time ? Instead of sticking to the original theme.
Exactly what I think everyday. Makes me sick! This is not a cowboy park. Go somewhere else if you want that.
You're right. This is a medieval park!
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^And a renissance theme does fit your idea of the park? You still don't have a grasp of the theme, which is the 1880s not the 1580s. I'm not saying turn the whole park into Dodge City but again the western theme does fit in some areas.
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^And a renissance theme does fit your idea of the park? You still don't have a grasp of the theme, which is the 1880s not the 1580s. I'm not saying turn the whole park into Dodge City but again the western theme does fit in some areas.
Sure. Just ask Laroy!
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That was actually aimed at Laroy. I didn't put enough ^s in- LOL
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I think this survey is for 2020. I do not agree with the Buffalo Bill theme though. This is no more Ozark than the Hatfields and McCoys are. Stick with the local lore and legends to theme the rides.
Does it seem to anyone else they are trying to cowboy the place up more all the time ? Instead of sticking to the original theme.
They are just expanding the theme - not changing it. Ever thought that they might be looking at ways to redo the Grand Expo and that a Wild Bill's Western Show coming to town would make more sense than a World's Fair?
I could live with that. A sub theme of the wild west show setting up in town. I just do not want to see the entire place being turned into cowboy city.
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Looks like thats exactly what is happening....unfortunately.
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Looks like thats exactly what is happening....unfortunately.
I'm sorry I put up with your nonsensical posts most of the time but I call complete bull crap on this. They added ONE ride that has a heading west theme and now the entire park is turning into a Wild West park. ENOUGH. IF they add a section that is more Western themed it will work. The 1880s and the Wild West are not so different that they can't coexist.
In fact they can coexist much easier than Medieval and even World's Fair.
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I don't see why they can't get more out of the baldknobbers vigilante and hillbilly things. It's not found anywhere else. Buffalo bill belongs in the Great Plains but I guess his show was a traveling one. I'm not against it but I just don't see the point. Better than mid evil times and rock music though.
Mine would be better but after seeing current treatment of old sdc flavor and theme I'm not surprised the ptb will go the lazy route.
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^Because baldknobbers/hill billy stuff isn't PC, and it doesnt test well with focus groups. People still romanticize the old west, so it's a theme that a broader spectrum of people connect with (especially those from out of the MO/AR area where the park wants to target people for multi-day stays).
It makes sense to test the waters with more "cowboy" oriented stuff. Not necessarily my favorite option, but it certainly makes sense. Buffalo Bill would add a really interesting and historical bit of intrigue to the park's overall theme. As has been pointed out, that would work even better than having a random "world's fair" in the back corner.
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I don't see why they can't get more out of the baldknobbers vigilante and hillbilly things. It's not found anywhere else. Buffalo bill belongs in the Great Plains but I guess his show was a traveling one. I'm not against it but I just don't see the point. Better than mid evil times and rock music though.
Mine would be better but after seeing current treatment of old sdc flavor and theme I'm not surprised the ptb will go the lazy route.
That is what I wrote about on the survey. Take advantage of local history; leave Buffalo Bill out west where he belongs.
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^Because baldknobbers/hill billy stuff isn't PC, and it doesnt test well with focus groups. People still romanticize the old west, so it's a theme that a broader spectrum of people connect with (especially those from out of the MO/AR area where the park wants to target people for multi-day stays).
It makes sense to test the waters with more "cowboy" oriented stuff. Not necessarily my favorite option, but it certainly makes sense. Buffalo Bill would add a really interesting and historical bit of intrigue to the park's overall theme. As has been pointed out, that would work even better than having a random "world's fair" in the back corner.
I understand what your saying and have to agree with it, but Buffalo Bill has his own history that's not pc when you look into his real history. Jesse James would be closer to home, but he's not pc either.
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^Because baldknobbers/hill billy stuff isn't PC, and it doesnt test well with focus groups. People still romanticize the old west, so it's a theme that a broader spectrum of people connect with (especially those from out of the MO/AR area where the park wants to target people for multi-day stays).
It makes sense to test the waters with more "cowboy" oriented stuff. Not necessarily my favorite option, but it certainly makes sense. Buffalo Bill would add a really interesting and historical bit of intrigue to the park's overall theme. As has been pointed out, that would work even better than having a random "world's fair" in the back corner.
I see what you're saying, but nothing is politically correct in our wuss society, certainly not the old west when we massacred those peace love dope Indians who simply wanted to help us learn to survive winter and love Mother Earth ::)
I'm not from the area and the baldknobbers hillbilly stuff is what got me hooked. It's why fith is my fav ride. Of course I'm only one person. The ozarks are every bit as interesting as the west and were once the west.
And yes I agree it is certainly better than a lot of other concepts.
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Buffalo Bill was a Pony Express rider, so at least he is still in the state.
...unless you're talking about the guy on Silence of the Lambs.
^Because baldknobbers/hill billy stuff isn't PC, and it doesnt test well with focus groups. People still romanticize the old west, so it's a theme that a broader spectrum of people connect with (especially those from out of the MO/AR area where the park wants to target people for multi-day stays).
Apparently Christianity is pretty politically incorrect, too, but they successfully draw people by the thousands with their "Christian" programming, but I get your point. Everything has to be so sterile these days.
I'd love a retheme of GE to a wild west show. That's a hot idea that adds much more character. I'd love to be in on the creative development, but I have my doubts about the reality of it changing.
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I vote for anything NOT a spinning coaster, which both concepts sound like...
I am with you brother. No spinning needed here. When I have been to other parks with spinners I have noted that the lines dictate that they are not in high demand.
Rarely much of a line for a spinner when matched to another same park standard coaster. Spinning is not family friendly, its child friendly. If they do consider a MM knock off I hope it does not contain the outside section with sharp turns and flips. The sitting position in MM your head is high above the track instead of lowering your center of gravity.Your head being essentially attached by your neck by "a hinge, or ball joint" endures a lot of not so forgiving movements. Others have spoken about this issue with MM.
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I vote for anything NOT a spinning coaster, which both concepts sound like...
I am with you brother. No spinning needed here. When I have been to other parks with spinners I have noted that the lines dictate that they are not in high demand.
Rarely much of a line for a spinner when matched to another same park standard coaster. Spinning is not family friendly, its child friendly. If they do consider a MM knock off I hope it does not contain the outside section with sharp turns and flips. The sitting position in MM your head is high above the track instead of lowering your center of gravity.Your head being essentially attached by your neck by "a hinge, or ball joint" endures a lot of not so forgiving movements. Others have spoken about this issue with MM.
Actually-since most spinners are lower PPH than most coasters, the lines are longer. At least they are at WOF, SFSTL, MOA, SFFT, KBF, etc
The new lap bar only Eurofighter (Infinity) trains have helped with the head banging. But we won't get a MM ride. The project was scrapped. I still can't believe the whole story behind that.
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The new lap bar only Eurofighter (Infinity) trains have helped with the head banging. But we won't get a MM ride. The project was scrapped
Thats a good thing, I enjoyed the ride as I believe you did when you reported on it but it shortened your day with the headache that came with it. They could do something similar but learn from the mistakes at DW. Theme+Coaster+no head banging= Fun Times
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If you sit in the front row middle two seats the head banging is minimal. If you sit in the back row, forget it.
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They might no go the G-fighter route, but there are plenty of ways to do something in the same vein as MM. Mack and Zierer make similar rides, plus there's always a B&M dive coaster. Hopefully this spinning coaster concept won't be the last time they look at mostly enclosing a coaster.
Here's a look at Tornado at Bakken, which is the only custom spinning coaster that flies in and out of a building that I can think of off the top of my head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLtkX5PvXVQ
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^Yawn.
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It's interesting to me that in the Buffalo Bill concept the ride is compared to riding a bull. In the original concept for Outlaw Run the coaster was proposed that the ride would be compared to riding a bull. I think they're going to get us on a bull one way or the other ;D
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They could replace the Elephant ride with Bulls I suppose.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVqbRsCduGk
interesting video I think Shave said he couldnt think of another spinning coaster.
This would fit in many ways.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVqbRsCduGk
interesting video I think Shave said he couldnt think of another spinning coaster.
This would fit in many ways.
Isn't that a slightly modified Mauer Shone stock model with Disney theming.
Here's a Gerstlauer in Japan with a.barrel roll
https://youtu.be/hLaqW0IWK8M
There's the two track Mack spinner at Phantasialand as well
Here's an attachment for a Mack spinner for an indoor Chinese park, it was to be mostly enclosed in a.mountain by it's opening.
(http://www.coasterfriends.de/forum/attachments/weltweite-news-asien-und-mehr/365164d1434576290-2015-neuheit-7-kingdoms-mountain-pavillion-neuer-park-shaoxing-china-shaox7.jpg)
(http://www.coasterfriends.de/forum/attachments/weltweite-news-asien-und-mehr/420916d1461076337-2015-neuheit-7-kingdoms-mountain-pavillion-neuer-park-shaoxing-china-12472605_1534341060204620_2737490622100359463_n.jpg)
(http://www.coasterfriends.de/forum/attachments/weltweite-news-asien-und-mehr/418417d1460050580-2015-neuheit-7-kingdoms-mountain-pavillion-neuer-park-shaoxing-china-kingdom1.jpg)
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Which is why I said Intamin COASTERS
Let me elaborate... The Lost River was built in house by SDC. At the time Intamin had the market on River Rapid Rides but the Herschends knew they could create their own cheaper. This is why you don't see Intamin anything built at a HFE property... They won't do business because of the Lost River.
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Which is why I said Intamin COASTERS
Let me elaborate... The Lost River was built in house by SDC. At the time Intamin had the market on River Rapid Rides but the Herschends knew they could create their own cheaper. This is why you don't see Intamin anything built at a HFE property... They won't do business because of the Lost River.
I call BS. Any company will work for any park if the price is right
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Which is why I said Intamin COASTERS
Let me elaborate... The Lost River was built in house by SDC. At the time Intamin had the market on River Rapid Rides but the Herschends knew they could create their own cheaper. This is why you don't see Intamin anything built at a HFE property... They won't do business because of the Lost River.
I was thinking that Lost River wasn't built by Intamin since it isn't listed on the Intamin ride list on Wikipedia. I was just thinking that maybe it was an error on Wikipedia.
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Which is why I said Intamin COASTERS
Let me elaborate... The Lost River was built in house by SDC. At the time Intamin had the market on River Rapid Rides but the Herschends knew they could create their own cheaper. This is why you don't see Intamin anything built at a HFE property... They won't do business because of the Lost River.
I was thinking that Lost River wasn't built by Intamin since it isn't listed on the Intamin ride list on Wikipedia. I was just thinking that maybe it was an error on Wikipedia.
I remember the press release back then saying they had designed and built it themselves. Now obviously the boats had to come from a outside vendor.
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I'd prefer more of a mine theme. However, in the early 60s, SDC had a heavy old west theme, which was in response to the western popularity then in film and TV. Gunsmoke, Bonanza, and so on. Gabby Hayes visited SDC for a personal appearance, others, too. By mid to late 60s, the Ozark mountain theme was more pronounced. Anyway, I will have to be a bystander on this attraction...spinning does not thrill me...I will have a fresh frozen lemonaide while the grandkids ride, lol!
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I just finished the survey tonight and there are 3 concepts. Of those 3, I like the Mine one the best.
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Anyway, I will have to be a bystander on this attraction...spinning does not thrill me...
Not everything is built for adults and I understand that but this shuts a lot of people out. I may skip the passes for the opening year, I am not excited about any of this at all. To be honest I am disappointed in their lack of originality.
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I need to re-read the concepts, but with the time machine and the bull, I definitely got the spinner vibe, but with the silver mine...It looked more like the euro-fighter to me.
Maybe I'm not in the know enough to know what's going on, but it looked like from my survey that the mine concept was already zeroed in on because that is where all my questions came from. The other two concepts were just thrown in there to compare against the mine. Did everyone else's survey do the same?
Also, Swoosh mentioned that this was a completely indoor concept.....which seems to go against what is currently being constructed. Could we be getting a couple coasters in back to back years?
Jay
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I don't recall any mention of this being an indoor attraction on any level. And no one here knows with certainty what is on the horizon.
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I'm pretty sure Swoosh put down any claim that it would be indoors. Almost all of us would love it to be indoors, especially since it will probably have views of the surrounding roads if left outside, but I doubt we will get our wish.
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I need to re-read the concepts, but with the time machine and the bull, I definitely got the spinner vibe, but with the silver mine...It looked more like the euro-fighter to me.
Maybe I'm not in the know enough to know what's going on, but it looked like from my survey that the mine concept was already zeroed in on because that is where all my questions came from. The other two concepts were just thrown in there to compare against the mine. Did everyone else's survey do the same?
Also, Swoosh mentioned that this was a completely indoor concept.....which seems to go against what is currently being constructed. Could we be getting a couple coasters in back to back years?
Jay
No, mine zeroed in on the Wild West theme and just kind of threw the others in as a side note.
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I need to re-read the concepts, but with the time machine and the bull, I definitely got the spinner vibe, but with the silver mine...It looked more like the euro-fighter to me.
Maybe I'm not in the know enough to know what's going on, but it looked like from my survey that the mine concept was already zeroed in on because that is where all my questions came from. The other two concepts were just thrown in there to compare against the mine. Did everyone else's survey do the same?
Also, Swoosh mentioned that this was a completely indoor concept.....which seems to go against what is currently being constructed. Could we be getting a couple coasters in back to back years?
Jay
The eurofigter/infinity style cars are singles with a cap of riders, the Silver Mine concept shows a multi car train for at least 16 riders based on 4 person cars.
All have towers but #1 and #2 look spot on to the Waterboggan while #2 has more of angular look and not just a straight vertical look to them.
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Interestingly I don't think I have seen one person defend or anticipate the spinning.
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I've wanted a spinner for a long time, I like diversity in costers.
I also want a non inverting woodie. I feel that's basic theme park 101 just like a mine train coaster is.
My kids love spinning, me not so much.
During out most recent trips. My Daughter rerode Expedition Everest numerous times while the Son rerode that wild mouse spinner at Animal Kingdom. They both favored Tower of Terror over the Aerosmith coast at Studios. At Sea World San Antonio my daughter stayed on Steel Eel while the Son wore out Great White. Anywho, it shows not everyone likes the same things and to say that if you don't like a spinning coaster, no one else does is wrong. Parks all over are putting them in.
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I don't recall any mention of this being an indoor attraction on any level. And no one here knows with certainty what is on the horizon.
Sorry, It was Shave's post where I got indoor part....
They might no go the G-fighter route, but there are plenty of ways to do something in the same vein as MM. Mack and Zierer make similar rides, plus there's always a B&M dive coaster. Hopefully this spinning coaster concept won't be the last time they look at mostly enclosing a coaster.
Jay
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I also want a non inverting woodie. I feel that's basic theme park 101 just like a mine train coaster is.
Same here. Idk why people always praise OR. It is nothing compared to FITH (or what it could be) and TNT. I wish we had Wildcat. I knew some coasters in the world are bad because they are small or boring somehow. Never thought a coaster could be bad by being too agressive, even though I heard about the head banging on MM. Wooden coasters shouldnt do what OR does and they shouldnt have been made to.
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Wooden coasters shouldnt do what OR does and they shouldnt have been made to.
That my good buddy is the entire point. Thats supposed to be like a bucking out of control ride in a stage coach. Just like you see in a cartoon.
They did a great job with that out of control feeling. They will expand into other types. I am proud to have an award winning ride at the park myself.
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I can see that cartoon now. A family in a stagecoach going down a super bumpy, rocky road with no seatbelts or anything to hold them in and everybody bouncing up and down going WEEEE! WEEEE! Almost bouncing out of the stagecoach itself.
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I can see that cartoon now. A family in a stagecoach going down a super bumpy, rocky road with no seatbelts or anything to hold them in
See, its not such a bad ride once you realise what they were going for.
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It is for me. I still dont get why its all great and everything. Nothing compared to all the others.
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It is for me. I still dont get why its all great and everything. Nothing compared to all the others.
Outlaw Run is the favorite wooden coaster of probably almost anyone who's ridden it. More like the others are nothing compared to OR.
I just hope they don't use the third concept. I'd be okay with either of the first two.
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It is for me. I still dont get why its all great and everything. Nothing compared to all the others.
What others are you comparing it to? O R set a standard most other woodies strive to achieve now. One of the best coasters I have ever been on bar none.
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It is for me. I still dont get why its all great and everything. Nothing compared to all the others.
What others are you comparing it to? O R set a standard most other woodies strive to achieve now. One of the best coasters I have ever been on bar none.
I've ridden most of the US RMC coasters and OR is by far their best installation.
1. Outlaw Run
2. Lightning Rod
3. New Texas Giant
4. Goliath
5. Storm Chaser
6. Iron Rattler
Still need to hit up Wicked Cyclone, the Joker and Twisted Collossus.
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So how do you get signed up for these? I regularly get the customer experience email surveys but not the attraction ones. When I did the signup I thought I would get both? No?
I don't usually get the ride concept surveys either but that may be due to the fact when they ask the question "How would this attraction affect whether you visit SDC next year?" i always answer it doesn't affect at all since we buy season passes every year and go whether they add anything new or not. I'm sure they are sending the surveys to those who usually don't come to SDC every year (or at least multiple times during the year).
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So how do you get signed up for these? I regularly get the customer experience email surveys but not the attraction ones. When I did the signup I thought I would get both? No?
I don't usually get the ride concept surveys either but that may be due to the fact when they ask the question "How would this attraction affect whether you visit SDC next year?" i always answer it doesn't affect at all since we buy season passes every year and go whether they add anything new or not. I'm sure they are sending the surveys to those who usually don't come to SDC every year (or at least multiple times during the year).
But I've seen quite a few in this thread & in other threads who did receive the survey, I'm an every other year season pass guy & have been for many years. I'd really love to take the survey!
Nobody has answered on how to get on the list or get involved, I'd like my voice to be heard to the POB
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So how do you get signed up for these? I regularly get the customer experience email surveys but not the attraction ones. When I did the signup I thought I would get both? No?
I don't usually get the ride concept surveys either but that may be due to the fact when they ask the question "How would this attraction affect whether you visit SDC next year?" i always answer it doesn't affect at all since we buy season passes every year and go whether they add anything new or not. I'm sure they are sending the surveys to those who usually don't come to SDC every year (or at least multiple times during the year).
But I've seen quite a few in this thread & in other threads who did receive the survey, I'm an every other year season pass guy & have been for many years. I'd really love to take the survey!
Nobody has answered on how to get on the list or get involved, I'd like my voice to be heard to the POB
Same here man. How do we sign up? Can someone please tell us?
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If I recall correctly, I began receiving surveys after I signed up for SDC's e-mail list. There was a checkbox to tick for if you wanted to receive surveys.
I haven't received one in a while, though. Never saw the most recent ones.
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So how do you get signed up for these? I regularly get the customer experience email surveys but not the attraction ones. When I did the signup I thought I would get both? No?
I don't usually get the ride concept surveys either but that may be due to the fact when they ask the question "How would this attraction affect whether you visit SDC next year?" i always answer it doesn't affect at all since we buy season passes every year and go whether they add anything new or not. I'm sure they are sending the surveys to those who usually don't come to SDC every year (or at least multiple times during the year).
But I've seen quite a few in this thread & in other threads who did receive the survey, I'm an every other year season pass guy & have been for many years. I'd really love to take the survey!
Nobody has answered on how to get on the list or get involved, I'd like my voice to be heard to the POB
You can always email them your thoughts. I emailed them on my opinions on the 3 spinning coaster choices even though i didn't get the survey. They thanked me and said my comments would be passed along to the attractions team. the surveys, I'm sure, are sent out to get a wide range of opinions because most visitors don't contact them with what they'd like to see/experience at the park (unless the PTB are looking at this board frequently then they'll get a lot of input on those subjects- LOL)
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Sometimes they mail surveys to season pass holders who hit the right box when they sign up. They also had a sign-up sheet by the ticket booths at one point a few years ago, maybe it's still there.
But I doubt they are sending each of these surveys to every customer available, and I don't think they necessarily want to send it to people like us who specifically want to direct the park. I am sure they have some targeting parameters to find out what their primary customer base wants, ie: young families. They probably throw out all the responses from the young coaster enthusiasts. ::)
I think you have the right idea Duelist - they are probably heavily weighted towards finding what it will take to bring old customers back. Customers that have been lost to Six Flags...
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I will go ahead and mention this. This comes from SDC employees, the letters you send to the PTB are read and they are passed on and up.
SDC apparently does heed letters they receive. I have heard about backlash from letters and large changes that have come because of them. I would not wear it out writing letters every time you see something out of place but if its important some people still do pay attention when you take the time to put pen to paper and write them. Its harder to ignore a letter than a email message. If you feel strongly write them, the answer you receive may be bland because often they cant respond as much as they might like. The letters are not incinerated, they are passed up the line.