SDCFans - The Unofficial Fan Site For Silver Dollar City
Silver Dollar City & Celebration City Discussion => Construction/Rumors => Topic started by: shavethewhales on August 13, 2007, 09:50:14 PM
-
This is very old, but it certainly is pretty major. Back in February SDC formally submitted a proposal for a $5 million TIF project to decrease traffic issues around SDC; the project would also involve some expansion of SDC's parking lot. Here an article on it ->http://bransonmissouri.blogspot.com/2007/02/silver-dollar-city-expansion-involves-5.html (http://bransonmissouri.blogspot.com/2007/02/silver-dollar-city-expansion-involves-5.html)
The thing is, I haven't heard any more on it since February, what happened? I expect that if it did indeed pass, we'll be seeing it take place this off season, if the funds are raised early enough.
I know that I personally can't wait for them to do anything to ease congestion. Last Christmas, I had to wait in a car queue for miles.
Btw, it's worth noting that the Herschends specifically designed this TIF proposal so that it wouldn't take away from possible education funds. Hooray for smart businesses.
Anyone hear more?
-
They have started on adding more parking!
-
Really? How so? It's kinda a bad time to start over-hauling the parking lot now, isn't it?
-
Yeah! Hopefully it doesn't cause any more problems with traffic than there already will be this weekend.
-
They haven’t started work on Indian Point. They started removing trees and working on the land between Parking Lot C and A. I don’t know if any of that made sense??? I have a couple of pictures.
-
Could we see the pics please?
-
It made sense to me, Copper; the Branson Blog had an article about the expansion back in February and included a photoshopped satellite image to illustrate what the new parking is supposed to look like. You can see it here (and you can click on the image to make it larger):
http://bransonmissouri.blogspot.com/2007/02/silver-dollar-city-expansion-involves-5.html
~ "Becky" Joy ~
-
It looks like a mighty big addition too. The road re-route is one thing, but filling in that valley and paving it will be a huge project, I see now why they started so early. It kind of goes against the Herschend principle of low-environmental impact, but eh, they haven't done anything like what other corporations across Branson have. I just hopes this relieves a little bit of the pressure during the Christmas season.
-
In case anyone's been out of touch with the home page, Copper was nice enough to submit a couple of photos of the work that has begun on the gully between lots A and C.
Man, where will they get all the dirt needed? Am I wrong in remembering that gully as pretty deep?
-
Copper has sent in some more photos, see the article on the home page.
It looks like they're keeping a lot of trees in place - a move I'm loving if it means those trees will become part of the parking lot. I mean really, parking lots are big, ugly, hot scars on the landscape, but with a few trees they are infinitely better. I can't wait to see how it turns out, even if it is only a parking lot - I've always wanted to see what a wooded parking lot would look like, maybe we should tell Walmart about this.
Then again, maybe they're just marking those trees for removal later, but it doesn't seem like it. What do you guys think?
-
I think it would be really cool if they left some trees in there, it wouldn't feel like a regular parking lot it would be different.
-
MIG just got a bunch of photos of the lot -> http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/silver/101507/
Sadly, it seems they aren't saving any trees, and they aren't doing anything to make it more than a big, black scar on the landscape. Oh well.
-
Crystal has confirmed that the completion date for the connection lot between A&C is by Family Spring Break Weekends in March. There has not been a date set for the movement of Indian Point Road as that is a TIFF project and is mandated by local and state rules
-
Geez, I had no idea how big the gully was until today, or how steep it was, or how now that the tree are gone, you can see Wildfire clearly from the road.
I'm now amazed more than ever that the Herschends went through with this, but it sure is needed, I had to park two miles away.
Btw, they've started work on the new road. Anyone going to be able to drive through some time and take some photos of the progress? It's not terribly interesting, but hey - it's something new.
-
I'll be sure to take pics when I'm down there on the 15th.
~ "Becky" Joy ~
-
We'll have our update sometime next week as we are going down this Saturday to cover the GMA taping as well as Coaster Christmas
-
TIFF Road Construction
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/silver/122907/
Parking Lot Construction
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/silver/122807/
-
Looks about the same as it did when I was there.
The season isn't over yet though, so I imagine they'll hold off on bringing in the asphalt trucks until then.
-
The park is closed for the season
-
Unfortunately due to the extremely wet February and all the rain we are getting now the new projected Parking Lot finish date is July 3rd.
-
That's too bad, I'm planning to hit the place up in early June, so I guess I'll just have to park way off in the gravel again... How are they going to work around all the daily guests?
-
That is what everyone is saying. With a lot of love and patients. They can always use the employee lots to park guests in.
-
I hate having to park in Notch or way down on Indian Point, but I guess we'll have to do what we'll have to do.
-
That will all stink!
-
I'm staying at Deer Run in a couple of weeks, so I will either take their shuttle or just walk over. Parking is going to suck until they get this much needed improvement completed.
-
Any hints on the easiest way to get around?
-
Get to SDC early. Have breakfast; take a cave tour and walk around town square???
-
That is the only way to do it right now. A friend of mine had to park at Noch and wait an hour for a tram to bring them to the park. The new road is nowhere close to done and that parking lot is even further. I got there early both days and it was fine. They have extended the hours till the end of the month from 9am to 7pm now.
-
^An hour? Damn, I've parked in Notch plenty of times, but there's always been a steady stream of buses. Then again, SDC was totally not expecting these crowds, so I guess you can't really blame them. The increased hours are a welcome make-up.
-
Well, Saturday was not a problem in the parking lot. We parked in C Lot and had a bus to ourselves with two other buses waiting for the next people to arrive. A private bus for every family! What service! The new plans seem to have advanced little since December, though. I hope they're able to hit their completion target.
-
Not to resurrect an old thread, but I found an article today about how they'll be starting work next week adding a 4th lane to 76 between 265 and Indian Point Road. It says the SDC traffic capacity will be about doubled once the work is completed. That's a relief! Traffic can get pretty bad. It says SDC is paying $337,000 of the $387,000 cost (the Hwy Dept. is picking up the remaining $50,000) and that it'll be done by the end of August. My guess is this is the TIFF project, but I'm a little out of the loop. Does anyone know if this is TIFF or something different?
You can read the Branson Daily News article here: http://www.bransondailynews.com/story.php?storyID=7156 (http://www.bransondailynews.com/story.php?storyID=7156)
-
Well, it's still going... http://www.1branson.com/forum/t35149.html
Looks like they're still a long way off schedule though. It'll sure be interesting to see the new bridge and everything though, I just hope they through in some green space somewhere in there.
-
All the wet weather must be throwing them off. I hope there's green space too. I have to feel that Jack and Peter Herschend must think that if there isn't any that Mary Herschend will be frowning on them from above or something like that.
-
New Parking Lot Update from May 17th
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/silver/2008/may17/parking/
New Road Project (Hwy 76 and Indian Point Road) Update from May 17th
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/silver/2008/may17/road/
-
They look way behind. They should just hire a company to do it for them.
-
It's been a very wet spring. Hopefully we'll have some dry weather ahead so they can really start making progress.
-
They should just hire a company to do it for them.
They did -- MODot ;)
...or did you mean the parking lot? ;D
-
They should just hire a company to do it for them.
They did -- MODot ;)
Ahh, now it makes sense. ;D
-
They should just hire a company to do it for them.
They did -- MODot ;)
...or did you mean the parking lot? ;D
Yes, of course that is what I meant. ;D
-
Well, June is expected to be wet through to the end, but when this current LRC starts breaking down in preparation for the next one to set up, then things should get drier. I imagine July will be a LOT better in terms of weather.
~ "Becky" Joy ~
-
So is the parking lot done yet? Surely in a month's time they've been able to put the asphalt down.
-
They have started paving the new and old Indian Point Road. They started last Saturday, the traffic was horrific. Brad Thomas ended up keeping the park open until 8 since many guests ended up arriving 1 to 2 hours late, smart move! The big hole in the parking lot is getting less shallow each day. They have not started paving the parking lots across from SDC yet, unless they started today.
-
Is there any talk of charging a parking fee once the new road/lot is finished? You have to pay to park at Wild Adventures, but that's probably because the system was already in place when HFE bought the place. Do you have to park at Dollywood?
-
Yes you have to park at Dollywood, you're not allowed to drive around the park. ;)
Yes, parking at the park is $8/car -- however it is "included" for "Gold Pass" members.
-
^Very lame, that's a fee that you know is in place purely so that the park can scrape a little more dough out of your pockets. I'm sure SDC will get that soon as well, it's inevitable... But I'll be parking at Deer Run - parking fees are my pet peeve.
-
^Parking fees are one of my pet peeves as well. When they start charging I'll be parking at Deer Run too.
-
I was hoping for a drive-through experience. I so hate having to get out of the car. I meant, of course, "pay to park". I wouldn't mind if it was a small amount and they offered some sort of heightened security in the parking lot, along with restrooms and drink machines at the tram pickup area(s) and faster turn-around for the trams. I was also thinking that ticket prices and season passes already cost quite a bit; I wonder if they have just figured parking into the ticket price. I think this is a better route since the fees are then hidden. Paying to park puts a bad feeling in most people's mouth right at the beginning of their visit, and then they have to fight their own feelings to get back into a good mood.
-
Maybe you're right History Buff. We went to Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg last summer for our weeklong vacation. Yes, you do have to pay to park at Dollywood, but you also have another option. Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg has a trolley service that you can use. It's 50 cents a ride (in town) and 75 cents (to the other town). Dollywood is near the transfer station in Pigeon Forge, so we just used that. Of course, we are a family of three, so you would have to weigh the costs for larger families. SDC has no other options (aside from motel/resort shuttles), so why not build the fee into the price of admission? Of course, Dollywood may have similar admission prices; I can't remember. Last year, All-City Passholders received free admission to Dollywood and Splash Country. I guess we picked the year to go :)
-
I hope SDC doesn't force us to pay to park. I think that is so stupid and as others said, it is just a way to get a few extra bucks. It does kind of confuse me though how on some Herschend properties you have to pay and others you don't. I wonder why that is...
The price to get into SDC is pretty expensive though so maybe the price to pay to park is figured in to your admission like History Buff said.
-
Honestly, I'm not sure why people don't go ahead and purchase the Season Pass or the 4-day deal. Both are very reasonably priced compared to the one-day admission.
-
^We have season passes. It is still expensive with food, gas, lodging, etc.
-
I guess it is all in perspective. Do you have fun as a family? If so then it is money well spent and not "expensive"
-
^I dunno, SDC is certainly money well spent, but I know I've already cut out a trip because I don't have enough money to spend well. ::)
Anyways - updates on the project? Please tell me something has been poured. Since they started paving the road 3 weeks ago I'm assuming that's going along well too, though it is MODoT...
-
^^We definitely have fun but that doesn't make it less expensive.
Sorry to get off track here. Back on topic...
-
Anyways - updates on the project? Please tell me something has been poured. Since they started paving the road 3 weeks ago I'm assuming that's going along well too, though it is MODoT...
Hasn't it been raining a lot down there lately?
-
^That's an understatement. They got 6 inches of rain in 12 hours on June 28, which pretty much sums up the whole month. I think they set a new record for precipitation for the month of June this year. So I doubt much work was completed last month.
-
Anyone got an update? Last I've heard is that the parking lot STILL hasn't been poured. :o
I still have the letter stating that the project was supposed to be wrapped up in early summer. And before that it was supposed to be done by late spring or earlier. It's not that they aren't doing all they can, it's just that it's impressive how long this has carried out.
I know a lot of progress was made on the road though, is that about done?
-
I'm curious too. I life farther away from the park then some of you guys. Get down there and get an update for us -- yes I am talking to you Copper and the Doctor among others. ;)
-
Last I saw G lot and the road are paved, but there is a delay in Indian Point road since it will cross over the "driveway" that takes you to the F lot. The other lot between A and C is still being filled in. A lot of progress has been made since it seems to have dried up, but there is still a ways to go.
-
^Yeah that is what I was going to say. They should be able to start making great progress because it is going to start getting really hot and dry here in Missouri. It's very humid lately and it's only going to be worse the rest of the summer.
-
I just can't imagine what it will all look like when finished. After all this time, even the parking lot is changing. And filling in that big valley seems like a daunting task. I hope it doesn't settle after it's paved.
-
i'm sure after all the dirt is in that they'll give it time to settle before beginning to pave it...would be costly otherwise.
-
Here's an interesting section from the Mom's Blog FAQ:
Q: What is the construction on Indian Point Road, and when will the project be completed?
A: Much needed road improvements are being made! By midsummer, we'll have a brand new entrance to Silver Dollar City - 2 lanes of incoming traffic devoted solely to our guests, along with two lanes of outgoing traffic when folks are ready to leave. Early this fall comes a brand new parking lot that can accommodate up to 1,000 extra cars. Guests will be parked in a jiffy and on the way to a great day faster than ever before.
-
Here's an interesting section from the Mom's Blog FAQ:
Q: What is the construction on Indian Point Road, and when will the project be completed?
A: Much needed road improvements are being made! By midsummer, we'll have a brand new entrance to Silver Dollar City - 2 lanes of incoming traffic devoted solely to our guests, along with two lanes of outgoing traffic when folks are ready to leave. Early this fall comes a brand new parking lot that can accommodate up to 1,000 extra cars. Guests will be parked in a jiffy and on the way to a great day faster than ever before.
Clearly they need to update their answer. :)
-
There's an article from today's Branson Daily News about the Road Project. Weather permitting, it will be done before the end of August. They talk about how it's a "weather dependent" project and a harsh winter and unusually wet spring and summer have really delayed the work. They are about 85% done right now. You can read the full article here:
http://www.bransondailynews.com/story.php?storyID=8184 (http://www.bransondailynews.com/story.php?storyID=8184)
-
It sure doesn't look or feel that finished. They are about to put the signage over the road though to make sure we get in the correct, dedicated Silver Dollar City lanes. These went up this week.
Does anyone know why the current lots are not listed alphabetically at the waiting area, and why "JD" and not just another letter?
-
Its a mess. We ended up parking on a gravel lot made from what was left of one of the original lots. There are gantries above the road but they don't have signs on them.
-
(http://www.barbandgreg.com/images/Emoticons/nopics.gif)
-
http://www.sdcfans.com/gallery.php?g=12
These are from last week, but it's the most current stuff on the web right now.
Also, there's a shot in this gallery of the new road with the signs going up -> http://www.sdcfans.com/gallery.php?u=23
-
The Road is OPEN!
WOW! A Sept 11 Surprise!
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w175/mrsumner/IMG00476.jpg)
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w175/mrsumner/IMG00477.jpg)
-
^Cool! And they even have the signs up! :D
-
^^Finally!
-
So how exactly does the new road work? ???
-
Swoosh! you leave the park and drive on the road following the signs for where you want to go! :P
-
Okay so more seriously... it depends on where you exit the park... there are two lanes of traffic out of the park now 3 lanes into it... 1 takes you to indian point.. the other two to the parking lots.
So leaving is different... but again that depends on where you exit....
leaving from A or C or Preferred you go Right instead of Left.... swing down under the bridge that takes the indian point traffic home and it slingshots you to the new section of road built in the old parking lots G and F.
-
hey this may have been posted earlier but i couldnt find anything.....does anyone know if parking lot c is now forever a handicap lot or is that just a temp thing
-
I was able to park in Clot last week. You just have to get there early.
-
i went this past wednesday and there was a guy directing cars and telling everyone it was handicap only. i dont know for sure whats going on with that then.
-
If I am not mistaken, I believe C is used as a handicapped parking lot when projected attendance numbers indicate that more handicapped parking will be needed beyond the handicapped parking lot near the entrance. I'm guessing that at this time of year, many older guests may visit during the week.
-
I noticed there's some huge clearing on the ridge straight off of C lot, is this more parking, or is it something else?
-
I'm guessing that's going to be parking.
-
^I was secretly hoping it might be a new ride... ;)
-
New photos of the road project and new parking lot
<<MiG's SDC UPDATE>> (http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/silver/2008/oct11/index.html)
-
I know they new RD is open but does anyone know if the lots finished yet?
-
My memory is fuzzy now, but I thought I heard them saying that they wanted the lots ready in time for An Old Time Christmas. If they're not done already, I expect they're finishing up right now.
-
Here's a link with some info about the road completion
http://www.eclassifiedsnetwork.com/content.aspx?module=ContentItem&ID=106313&MemberID=1191
-
OK... I was just at SDC this past weekend and I seriously hope that this mess isn't considered "complete". I'm sure there is some sort of rhyme or reason as to what is being done with parking at SDC, but for the life of me, I can't see it. Nothing is labeled properly. I saw close to 2 wrecks just leaving parking lot C. They have small cones kind of keeping you in the lanes but even with a sportscar that isn't large, the lanes were just barely wide enough for my car and nearly impossible to turn into. I almost hit a trolley because the person directing traffic was waving but it wasn't clear what he was trying to do. The trolley came from what looks to be a road going the opposite way. it's just a huge mess. I've watched this progress the entire year and I'm no more clear now as to what the real plan with this is than I was in April. All I see is mass confusion and really no clear direction to say get from parking lot C OUT! The main road leads to parking lot F and again isn't labeled well. I saw one car leave C and end up back in F! And then leaving F there is absolutely no clarity to get back on the road to leave... I'm very disappointed as Silver Dollar City doesn't normally approach projects like this (in my 30 years of going there... at least the ones I remember after 6 years old). I really hope it isn't considered "complete" as that article link shows
-
^Hopefully they'll do some fine tuning.
-
I'm going to be down there the Friday after Thanksgiving, possibly the busiest day of the year - that will be the real test of the new system. Hopefully by then the cones will be gone and they'll have figured out how to coordinate the cars and trolleys.
-
I'm going next Wednesday, the day before Thanksgiving. It usually seems to be one of the less busiest days. ;)
-
I'm going to be there Wednesday, Thursday and Friday! lol
The parking situation isn't terrible as it sounds.. I do get to drive it everyday though so I may be biased.
The cones are there probably until all the roads are cleaned up and marked after lot AC is completed.
I'm not positive though just thinking that's what will happen.
Even with the cones and guys waving their arms.. it's pretty clear where you are supposed to go. We have huge signs up now replacing the temporary ones that were there. And they look nice...
Of course my favorite sign is the 16 mph speed limit sign! LOL
I love it!
-
Parking lot AC has finally been raised to reach lot A and C! Yeah!
Here are some pics
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v363/163/118/646965230/n646965230_4761044_3066.jpg)
(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v363/163/118/646965230/n646965230_4761045_886.jpg)
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v363/163/118/646965230/n646965230_4761036_689.jpg)
-
Lot AC was used today!
400 cars fit on that little plot of parking lot...
We were told that they are not going to pave this.. I don't know if that means right away or ever? So we'll have to see if there's a chip & seal parking lot between two paved parking lots... doesn't make sense to be but... we'll see.....
(http://photos-d.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v644/163/118/646965230/n646965230_4783939_747.jpg)
-
Finally. ::)
I'll ask Brad on the 6th if they plan on paving it during the off season or not.
-
Got to park in the new AC lot the other day. It's sure a nice little addition, but it definitely needs pavement. The rest of the parking area still leaves much to be desired, to be honest. I think there's been some general improvement, but you can tell that there's still a lot of work to be done to finish everything up. There are still cones everywhere, and it still feels awkward trying to figure out where to go after most of the lots are filled.
Anyone know why they're selling off part of Notch? Half of it was being used, but the other half wasn't and has a for sale sign.
-
Last I heard the new parking lot went over budget big time and that is what is "new" for next year. Sure the economy is a good excuse as well, but I tend to think this is the real reason why the coaster got put on hold.
-
OK, they built the new roads and parking lots but I feel that they have really failed to address a big issue, handicapped parking. My wife is disabled and has to use a scooter. WE are usally parked in the A lot, which I feel is too far away for anybody in a scooter or wheelchair. But this weekend, we were told that we could drop off then park in the F lot, the A lot has been turned into prefered parking with a $20.00 fee. This is highly disrespectful to the handicapped visitors and I am not sure if this is not a voilation of Americans with Disablities rules.
-
A lot has always been a paid parking lot. There are a handful of "first come first served" handicapped parking spaces right next to the entrance. However if you want those you have to be there before the park opens. It used to be that the handicapped had to park in lot C, which I believe is still the case. I would imagine that those were full too if they told you to park in E
-
Actually, we have always parked in A for free. Of course, we are always on the motorcycles. We really love that. BTW: before anyone says anything, look at how many bikes can get crammed into that little space on the left. Try fitting that many cars into the same space.
-
Never really paid attention to the handicapped lots. Never had to worry about it. Interesting.
-
COrrection,
I was actually handicapped, busses and motercycles were always on the left.
THen the 15.00 were the secondary spaces. I complained heavely to the managment as I can not see someone thats handicapped being less important than someone with 20.00. This just isnt right.
THey have done nothing to the existing lots and all spaces were free untill about 5 years ago maybe, it wasnt long ago this changed.
-
Don't complain - at the their other properties (Dollywood, Wild Adventures, Stone Mountain) there are NO FREE PARKING SPACES.
-
There always seems to be a huge cluster of handicapped spots in Clot.
-
Anyone check out the parking lots lately? Have they added asphalt to the new lot, and got rid of the cones? I'm curious to see the final product at last.
The parking lots were one of the first stories this site covered over a year and a half ago I believe, and it's been almost exactly a year since the first proposed finish date.
-
Do they have a good way to walk from the new lots to the park yet? I can take construction, but not safe walkways.
-
Do they have a good way to walk from the new lots to the park yet? I can take construction, but not safe walkways.
Yeah, I know. If I don't have a few reckless cars to dodge, some orange cones, a pot hole or at least a pit of poisonous vipers to leap across...I get bored.
Just kidding... I know you meant unsafe; it was late and that one caught me funny.
-
Heh...yeah I didn't even notice that.
-
Do they have a good way to walk from the new lots to the park yet? I can take construction, but not safe walkways.
Yeah, I know. If I don't have a few reckless cars to dodge, some orange cones, a pot hole or at least a pit of poisonous vipers to leap across...I get bored.
Just kidding... I know you meant unsafe; it was late and that one caught me funny.
I always thought they should just take out the "do not enter" signs on the tram tunnels, and remove the crossing gates on the rail road, such measures just take the fun out of the park.
-
With all the talk about going over budget, this is from the SDC website:
According to Bill DeAtley, project manager for Silver Dollar City, the $5 million Tax Incremental Finance project was finished on time, and on budget. Improvements included widening the top of Indian Point Road from MO 76 to the Silver Dollar City park entrance, and constructing a new road separating Silver Dollar City traffic from vehicles traveling to Indian Point and Crow's Nest area resorts and lake access points.
-
Interesting, but I can't help but feel that their making some sort of exaggeration. I remember them stating at the start of the season that the work would be completed by the start of that summer, and when I went in September it was still very much under construction. Maybe I misinterpreted them. They could have been talking about the road itself specifically, and the rest of the parking issues were a separate thing.
Something had to have gone awry for them to still be working on it up to the end of last season.
-
MoDot had nothing to with the "other problems" dealing with the parking.
Their role in the project was done on time and budget.
-
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/MrHoggatt/Silver%20Dollar%20City/Where%20in%20the%20City/2009%20Round%201/100_6700.jpg)
-
^Where is that?
-
Right here silly!
Heres a hint...it used to be covered in trees and was then a HUGE hole, now it is right next to what was parkin lot C
-
Yup! This is a view from the valley side of the new lot - gravel as you can tell - looking back toward the road.
-
I was told on Thursday 3/26/09 that they were waiting until warmer weather to lay the asphalt on the new lots. That maybe why they are not done.
-
Glad to see that they finally relized that they needed to make the handicap parking availible to the handicap and turned the bus parking areas into additional handicap parking near the enterance. I never could figure out why the felt Lot A was so conveient for wheelchair and powerchair visitors
-
I noticed they put planters in as a barrier between former lot C and the new lot (still havent figured out all the new numbers yet). I guess all of that new area is now preferred parking. Gotta re-coup some of those costs though - so I'm happy to see a few people pony up and pay $15 to park 100 ft. closer to the entrance.
As for me, I'm sticking to the shuttles from the hotel. The new parking lot system is STILL a nightmare to deal with. Get there early and leave late if you must come via car. Otherwise, the buses the park sends out to the hotels are very nice, and they seem to run every hour.
It did feel like I had missed something by getting to the park via a bus rather than a long green tram, but I have to say the new transports look a lot more professional. No more raggedy old school buses to be seen anywhere, and the new trams do look nice now that they have the right vehicles pulling them rather than Ford F-150's :D.
I know most of you already have been through this, but I felt I should throw my 2 cents in after my first visit of the season.
-
No more raggedy old school buses to be seen anywhere
I hope you're right about that. It would be a long time coming, and if that's the only major investment we get this year, it'll be worth it. The yellow busses have always been an eyesore and set the wrong stage for the park.