SDCFans - The Unofficial Fan Site For Silver Dollar City
General Category => Other Parks => Topic started by: U Smell Smoke on July 25, 2014, 05:30:42 PM
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I see where Holiday World announced their 2015 project last night. It's going to be the world's first launched wing coaster. It will be their biggest ever investment at $22 million dollars. Looks like it's going to be a nice ride. They have good info at their website. First steel coaster for HW.
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checked it out... !!! COOL!!!!... 22 million?????? :o :o
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Wingcoasters are more expensive. Launch coaster are even more more expensive.
It looks like a decent layout for a wingcoaster.
I bet SDC keeps a close eye on how this performs because there is an area that just might pop up something like this in say... 2017 or so.
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^Because we're in the second of a three project arc, right Swoosh?
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Whatever you say, HB. lol
No, the big rumors coming from the City is that another coaster is coming in the near future.
The part the keeps coming up in all of those rumors is that it will go on the "hill" with the rest of them and be from a previously used manufacturer. So to me, that would have to mean B&M, right? As for the "hill" it would either have to go between WF and PK or over by the Homestead.
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OK now, all the responses that you (members of SDCFans) are thinking up must not continue in this thread. This is the Holiday World 2015 Project conversation.
;D So what do you think Holiday World will think about the Silver Dollar City 2017 project? JK
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While I am excited for Thunderhawk, I almost feel that it is too big of a diversion from what has made the park successful. I almost feel like they should have worked their way up to this big of a steel coaster. A mine train or even something like the new coaster added to KK this year would have made a lot more sense.
It almost reminds me of a toddler that was eating baby food and all of a sudden decides it needs a porter house steak. No "segue" at all. Just bam - go to the most extreme out there and then add a gimmick to make it even more so. Even a hyper coaster would have made more sense then this.
Don't get me wrong, I am excited as a thrill junkie for the coaster - but for those who only frequent this park, they have never gone upside down before on a coaster, and a launch too? This may be too extreme.
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From what I've heard, we're in the midst of a 3 project boom. The first is the smallest budget of the three. The next after this might include some relocated rides along with something else. The final one is the big whopper and had been rumored for years.
This was what I was thinking of, but it was a while ago that you said it. It took me a while to find it. I suppose it was a couple of years ago.
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From what I've heard, we're in the midst of a 3 project boom. The first is the smallest budget of the three. The next after this might include some relocated rides along with something else. The final one is the big whopper and had been rumored for years.
This was what I was thinking of, but it was a while ago that you said it. It took me a while to find it. I suppose it was a couple of years ago.
To quote Sgt Schultz, "I know nothing"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo
Of course things change, for instance the budgets. But we are still right on track on the 3 projects. With the first being Outlaw Run, the next Fireman's Landing (and as you can see I was right on target mentioning the relocated rides) and now we have the largest project still to come and if the B&M persistent rumors pan out it would be the largest budget of the 3.
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I figured you would enjoy being right...other than that "the first is the smallest budge of the three" thing.
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Eh. Budgets change. The OP was two years ago. Let me tell you, the plans for GG's replacement have changed so many times it was hard to keep up.
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I can imagine it has.
I just took a look at the Thunderbird at HW. The video is cool, but the ride itself doesn't look like much. I like how it tears through the barns, especially if those barns have already been in the park. I haven't been to HW, but understand it to be quite clean and friendly. I think the theme would really get annoying for employees.
Here is the link to the video: http://www.holidayworld.com/thunderbird/ (http://www.holidayworld.com/thunderbird/)
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Meanwhile the other Koch family members that bought Alabama Adventure just outside of Birmingham will have the wood coaster there running in a couple of weeks.
I supposed B&M could do a launched suspended coaster. Has that been done yet? I see that they made a knock off like version of a Vekoma family suspended coaster in China.
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I was at Holiday World this past week. One of their major rides--Giraffica AKA Pilgrim's Plunge--has been taken down. Has anyone heard why? I would guess that the new coaster will be in the area where this ride used to be.
On three different occasions on my visit, rides broke down while I was standing in line. They had problems with the Mammoth, the Wildebeest, and the Voyage. The Voyage got stuck halfway up the lift hill, and the passengers had to walk down.
I normally enjoy my visits to Holiday World, but Friday's visit wasn't the best.
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From everything I've read Pilgrims Plunge was taken down for the new ride. Surelyo goodness they didn't scrap it.
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Giraffica was retired over a year ago due to incessant mechanical issues. I think it was indeed scrapped. Intamin sold at least one other ride of that type, haven't heard if it has the same trouble, but Holiday World's version was the prototype.
I watched the live stream of the Thunderbird announcement. Really excellent PR campaign and announcement, it was great to be able to be apart of it all. I'll be traveling to HW next summer to check it out in person.
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What do you mean when you say it was great to be a part of it all? Did you help with the campaign?
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He knew someone who was involved in it and was fed insider information -- or that's what it read as over on TPR.
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No, I simply mean I followed along with it all and partook in a number of discussions. HW actually does a lot of interaction with the enthusiast community including special events, having a PR person hang out on TPR, and blog posts and other things directly aimed at the enthusiast community. They had a 66-day long teaser campaign for this ride, with a live-streamed announcement at the end. Somehow, they kept it all underwraps right up to the announcement. I'm pretty sure that virtually everyone watching the announcement wasn't completely sure what was actually going to be announced.
I hope SDC can get back to this sort of online interaction again. I miss conductor Sam.
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I rode on Holiday World's new launched, winged coaster over the weekend, and it is a fantastic ride. What impressed me the most, however, was the theming. Holiday World really stepped up their game in theming the exterior of the station and the areas around it (even though I'm not sure what the ride itself has to do with Thanksgiving). The inside of the station is pretty plain, but it is the best themed ride in the park. Theming isn't HW's strong suit.
The strangest thing about the ride is its location in the park. It is stuck off by itself away from the rest of the park, and it is quite a long walk to get there. Strange layout.
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If it's not themed to Thanksgiving, then it's not well-themed. Had they made it a flying turkey instead of an eagle, it would have worked.
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If it's not themed to Thanksgiving, then it's not well-themed. Had they made it a flying turkey instead of an eagle, it would have worked.
You mean you have never had roasted Eagle on Thanksgiving. ;D
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They might have. Franklin did propose the turkey as the national bird.
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I know what you mean about the "theming" semantics HB, but Thunderbird does have a theme and an interesting backstory related to a fictional alt-history of the pilgrim's voyage. The props and area don't really do a good job of telling the story, but it is all very pretty and looks much better than the rest of the park. The only allusions to the story are the little quips on the walls in the station. You have to go online to dig up all the "journal entries" that give the backstory though. They released them one by one during the teaser campaign.
I did finally get to ride Thunderbird last month. I had high expectations, and it exceeded them. It's smooth and comfortable, but the launch has a bit of kick to it and there are just enough G-forces throughout that it is fun and exhilarating without giving you a headache. It's one of those rides that it's tough to walk away from because it's so fun to ride over and over again.
The only thing to complain about, is that the layout of the park is getting bizzare. You have to walk a good quarter mile or more from the Voyage plaza to the Thunderbird plaza up a winding hill with nothing between those two points. Supposedly it fits within their "master plan" but it definitely seems nonsensical to me. They also have a waterslide tower nearby, which is also oddly separated from the rest of the water park. I think HW has some sort of hidden agenda to make people walk more.
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My favorite coaster is Powder Keg at SDC. I would venture to say that this coaster is a close second.
HW is a great park with great rides. However, you really learn to appreciate the atmosphere, theming, and attention to detail at SDC after visiting Holiday World. The two parks are just at completely different levels.
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Placing rides at the ends of long walks is one way to have patrons be in line for the ride long before the actual queue begins. Think about TnT: you walk a long way to be in a short line, but really aren't you in line when you start the walk?