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General Category => Random Talk => Topic started by: Duelist on October 03, 2013, 07:29:05 AM
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Anyone else get furloughed by the Federal Government shutdown? I work for a state agency but since my job is mostly federally funded I'm out of a job until the shutdown is over. They got about 80 out of around 100 of us at my office. Hopefully this will be over soon.
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Duelist, sorry to hear that.. hang tough! Hopefully they will figure it out and get u back to wok soon.
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Oh that is a bummer duelist. I am sorry to hear that. We are praying for you!!
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That's the horrible part of the partial shutdown. I have a couple of friends in the same boat with you, Duelist. To quote them, "sigh."
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Gee Duelist, Im very sorry to hear that you got furloughed. Anytime someone gets time off work (unpaid) it is real tough. On a bright note. This shutdown will likely be very short lived. Still-n-all, hang tough brother. You know I will be praying for you all. GOOD LUCK BROTHER.
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If you're furloughed, at least you can claim unemployment.
I'm in the opposite position: ordered to work, with no paycheck for the foreseeable future. If I can't pay my bills because I don't get a paycheck, I can be fired by fed.gov for not honoring my "just debts". Ironic, eh?
I went through it in 1995 and survived. I'll survive this one too.
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Wow KB,.! that's is quite a situation to adapt to.? good luck.
On another note. Camprgounds closing aound tablerock:
http://bransontrilakesnews.com/news_free/article_080e5c46-2ad8-11e3-b452-001a4bcf887a.html
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Thanks for all the encouragement, guys! My wife is also a state employee at another agency and she makes quite a bit more than I do and she didn't get furloughed (not yet anyway) so they got the right one of us :) KB that is bad. We'll be praying for you that this ends quickly. Somethings very wrong with the system when you're forced to work without any compensation.
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I recently changed jobs and now work for a government contractor, processing paperwork. We're funded, so we just keep moving along! Sorry to hear of others not so fortunate. It's bound to just be a few more days before things get going again. Hang in there! :)
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Wow KB,.! that's is quite a situation to adapt to.? good luck.
On another note. Camprgounds closing aound tablerock:
http://bransontrilakesnews.com/news_free/article_080e5c46-2ad8-11e3-b452-001a4bcf887a.html
From Bush Interior Secretary Gail Norton:
“The National Parks Service has a long history of dramatizing budget issues by inconveniencing the public,” she says. ”They often choose the most dramatic type of action in order to get their message across. It’s something I had to guard against when I was secretary — not letting them play budget games.“
NPS has engaged in such behavior for decades, Nortons says, recalling at least one occassion during the Reagan administraiton, in which she worked as an attorney for the parks service, when NPS decided to close Skyline Drive, a scenic highway running through Shenandoah National Park, in order to make a statement during an appropriations fight on Capitol Hill…
“Given the fact that they have closed so much, and acted so broadly, I imagine that decision was made at the highest levels of park service leadership, in cooperation with department leadership and the White House,” she says.
They did similar stuff at the start of sequestration.
One park ranger at Mt. Vernon said he was disgusted and that he was told to make it as harsh as possible.
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I too am furloughed from my job at the Jefferson National Expansion Memorial. I hope this ends soon. The bright side is I'm getting caught up on some household chores!
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Now don't overreact, PBR!
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Parson, what a COOL job! I love the Arch and the park and museum there. Best to you at this time.
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For the government to put honest folks out of work just to push political agendas is so disheartening! >:(
Duelist, and Parson B Ready, to see you both keeping your heads held up high, and pressing on is nothing short of inspiring. :)
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Just announced yesterday, Dewey Visitors Center to close..
http://bransontrilakesnews.com/news_free/article_bb9ade3c-3123-11e3-ae91-0019bb2963f4.html
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My son has been furloughed since the beginning and still has to work. If people are working without pay, it doesn't make sense to me that the pres is allowed to continue to travel outside the White House. Security has been beefed up, so not only are the agents being forced to work, they're being flown to DC for extra protection, it's costing taxpayers billions. Why can't be stay in the White House and feel the pain like others? Stupid things are happening,also. Illinois Rivers have been shut down for duck hunting and fishing. They falls under the U. S. Fish & Wildlife, but funding for them isn't federal. It's a separate entity. It's called Pittman-Roberts and Dingle-Johnson funds. Sportsman pay an extra tax on equipment. Guns ammo bows fishing gear. It's a 15% extra that goes into these funds. PR is wildlife and DJ is fishing.
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I hope this jumps up and bites the ones responsible right on his butt. Do whatever you can to make it as painful to the American people as you can, right, Mr President?
>/soapbox>
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My son has been furloughed since the beginning and still has to work. If people are working without pay, it doesn't make sense to me that the pres is allowed to continue to travel outside the White House. Security has been beefed up, so not only are the agents being forced to work, they're being flown to DC for extra protection, it's costing taxpayers billions. Why can't be stay in the White House and feel the pain like others? Stupid things are happening,also. Illinois Rivers have been shut down for duck hunting and fishing. They falls under the U. S. Fish & Wildlife, but funding for them isn't federal. It's a separate entity. It's called Pittman-Roberts and Dingle-Johnson funds. Sportsman pay an extra tax on equipment. Guns ammo bows fishing gear. It's a 15% extra that goes into these funds. PR is wildlife and DJ is fishing.
They are going after folks they deem more likely to be conservative in a lot of this. Don't forget about the funding via the federal duck stamp.
As to healthcare and OKC. I found this interesting and know a group of doctors here locally that are entertaining the idea of a clinic of primary care and specialists that takes no insurance but is membership driven.
http://reason.com/reasontv/2012/11/15/the-obamacare-revolt-oklahoma-doctors-fi
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Snippet on membership based care
http://www.wbir.com/news/article/245149/2/Health-care-membership-program-offers-patients-insurance-alternative
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I hope this jumps up and bites the ones responsible right on his butt. Do whatever you can to make it as painful to the American people as you can, right, Mr President?
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Sorry, but our President has nothing to do with this shutdown. You can blame Congress for it.
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I hope this jumps up and bites the ones responsible right on his butt. Do whatever you can to make it as painful to the American people as you can, right, Mr President?
>/soapbox>
Sorry, but our President has nothing to do with this shutdown. You can blame Congress for it.
Sooner or later you got to pay your bills. Some folks think we need to start now
You think you should be able to buy a 20oz coke, twinkies, and doritos with food stamps.? I don't.
Yet this gov't has spent money marketing the fact that they have expanded the program
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (KTHV)- An Arkansas food stamp recipient says her debit card was shut down when she went to buy groceries Saturday at Wal Mart.
"It's pretty embarrassing to have groceries of all things, and having your kids in your basket and them saying that you can't get your things," says Malone. The single mother of two receives $526 in food stamps on the 12th of each month but this month the money was never deposited. "I got back to the house, I called the number of the card and I actually reached a person and was told that they're not showing any kind of sanctions or anything on the card, the money's just not there."
Malone and thousands of other food stamp recipients around the country reported similar issues on Saturday, when a power outage at an EBT service provider caused a glitch in the debit card system. But a DHS spokesman tells THV Arkansas uses a different service provider than other states, and Malone's issue is not related to the others. THV called several grocery stores in Little Rock and none reported issues with the debit cards. "Government assistance is nothing to be ashamed of. We all pay for it with every paycheck we get and I think it's fair we get our food," Malone added.
Uh, no you don't. I'm willing to bet she pays no fed income tax after she gets her return. This is the very definition of entitlement.
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at least they could have got the 2 liters for less instead of the 20oz bottles. ::)
How bout the article in the San Fran paper suggesting folks make less to qualify for health care subsidies.
Jeez, this country is almost beyond screwed.
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I am actually now a recipient of food stamps, and from my experience, as long as you have used the bulk of your allotted amount to buy real sustenance, I don't think there's anything wrong with buying a bit of "happy food" at the end of the month if you have some left over money before the next month's money comes in.
I am 28, unemployed, uninsured, and by the middle of next month, I will have to start paying, somehow, on the student loans that got me through the past four years of college to get me a Bachelor's Degree that apparently doesn't do much to get a job, since I've not received a single call back on any of the applications I've sent out for jobs since I moved back to Kansas City. I am also suffering from cold urticaria (which is an extra pain now that the weather is turning cold), severe depression (and currently un-medicated because I ran out and can't afford to get more and am having to wait two-plus weeks for my free doctor's visit at the local low-income health center), and suspect that I have Asperger's (I don't have an official diagnosis because I haven't been able to afford to go get tested), the characteristics of which are a big reason I have a terrible work history because I deal with major social anxieties, among other things.
So, sure, there are people who abuse the system, but that's always gonna be the case. Thing is, the majority of those who are being supported are being supported because they have good reason to be. Try to tell me that I should not be able to get medicine for my depression or food for my stomach.
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I am actually now a recipient of food stamps, and from my experience, as long as you have used the bulk of your allotted amount to buy real sustenance, I don't think there's anything wrong with buying a bit of "happy food" at the end of the month if you have some left over money before the next month's money comes in.
I am 28, unemployed, uninsured, and by the middle of next month, I will have to start paying, somehow, on the student loans that got me through the past four years of college to get me a Bachelor's Degree that apparently doesn't do much to get a job, since I've not received a single call back on any of the applications I've sent out for jobs since I moved back to Kansas City. I am also suffering from cold urticaria (which is an extra pain now that the weather is turning cold), severe depression (and currently un-medicated because I ran out and can't afford to get more and am having to wait two-plus weeks for my free doctor's visit at the local low-income health center), and suspect that I have Asperger's (I don't have an official diagnosis because I haven't been able to afford to go get tested), the characteristics of which are a big reason I have a terrible work history because I deal with major social anxieties, among other things.
So, sure, there are people who abuse the system, but that's always gonna be the case. Thing is, the majority of those who are being supported are being supported because they have good reason to be. Try to tell me that I should not be able to get medicine for my depression or food for my stomach.
Joy, you are in a tough spot. We most all have been. At 27 I was fighting cancer. I still don't think it's the responsibility of the tax payer to provide happy food. They certainly didn't provide it for myGrandparents during the depression yet they endured survived and prospered.
When I was 18, I went to work for my Grandfather in his store while I worked and paid my way through college without taking out student loans. There I was introduced to mothers sending in their kids with 1 dollar food stamps, they would buy a 5 cent piece of laffy taffy and get 95 cents back, after her kids did this about four times she would walk in buy a 40 of Olde English and a pack of Kools. Mother after mother would do this. It changed my world view quickly as a child of a single mother that worked her but off at Fed Ex but yet I didn't qualify for pell grants yet black kids of single mothers at Fed Ex did. Black kids that went to the same high school and with the same opportunities I had, mind you. Sorry, my patience for the Snap program and other government ran aid programs ended a long time ago. I'm not even going to go into cards being traded for 40 to 50 cent on the dollar. That still goes on with the debit cards. I hate to get off into politics here but Government is not the answer to your issues, Obamacare is nothing but income distribution but it's not hurting the rich, it's hurting whats left of the middle class.
Here's an article on California turning into a feudal system from The Daily Beast, not what you call a conservative rag
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/05/california-s-new-feudalism-benefits-a-few-at-the-expense-of-the-multitude.html
As for Obamacare, go google primary care in Mass and see how hard it is to get one and when you do how long it takes to be seen. The two weeks you are waiting is a walk in the park.
Wait, I did the leg work:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2013/10/12/why-hard-find-doctor/AZmAhh8DJowD63cIVF0vPO/story.html
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Joy, sorry about your predicament... sounds tough! hope things turn around for you soon.....
Chitllins... RIGHT ON!!
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The house has sent multiple bills to the senate that would fund portions of the government. Harry Reid refuses to bring them to a vote unless they include funding Obamacare. That is what this whole shutdown is about. Neither side is willing to give an inch on Obamacare.
Unless King Obama gets his way, he's gonna hold us all hostage and make it hurt as much as he can to try to force republicans to do what he wants, and the press is his willing accomplice.
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replace the king.......................
Impeachment seems to be the only answer... ::) ::) ::)
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The house has sent multiple bills to the senate that would fund portions of the government. Harry Reid refuses to bring them to a vote unless they include funding Obamacare. That is what this whole shutdown is about. Neither side is willing to give an inch on Obamacare.
Unless King Obama gets his way, he's gonna hold us all hostage and make it hurt as much as he can to try to force republicans to do what he wants, and the press is his willing accomplice.
Harry Reid has refused to pass a budget in over 5 year. He has been the main cause of crisis after crisis. He is trying to rewrite the constitution and take the House power of the purse away from it because it is Rupublican controlled. The arguement in the Republican Party is stop kicking the can and make a stand.
Leon Panetta, a Clinista, CIA and Defense Dept.Head under Obama places lots of blame on the executive because of his lack of leadership.
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What saddens me is when I see folks who can't afford to feed their children, but they have nicer cell phones and bigger televisions than I have. Their kids get free lunches and snack backpacks on the weekend, and free turkey dinners for Thanksgiving. They are "adopted" by well-meaning church groups at Christmas, the Lions pay for their eyeglasses, etc. YET, they still drink, smoke, buy lottery tickets, and hang out at the casinos. The "assistance" they receive leaves their remaining money available for these activities, but if they could give up these activities, they might have enough money for the necessities. It's a shame some people choose reckless behavior choices over self-sufficiency and pride.
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history buff, you forgot health care, prescriptions, and dental care also being provided
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We need to stop calling them entitlements.
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We need to stop calling them entitlements.
en·ti·tle·ment
noun \-ˈtī-təl-mənt\
: the condition of having a right to have, do, or get something
: the feeling or belief that you deserve to be given something (such as special privileges)
: a type of financial help provided by the government for members of a particular group
The media elites need to get out of Washington, New York, and Cali. People talk openly about spitting up this country, business owners worth millions. Heard one today rail on and on about Obama. The divide between the flyover and the coasts are growing. The more the media call us wacko birds, terrorists and such the more pee'd we get, the more rounds of 223/nato we buy.
Mark Pryor can kiss his but goodbye, this state tossed out an Obamacare voter even when she was just named chair of the Senate Agri committee:
Arkansans Blame Obama and Senate Dems for Shutdown, and Other Good News for Tom Cotton
By Patrick Brennan
October 14, 2013 10:31 AM
Just 34 percent of Arkansas voters approve of President Obama — and the same share approves of the job Mark Pryor is doing, according to a new poll. The survey, by Talk Business and Hendrix College, finds one especially interesting result: In Arkansas, Democrats are getting the blame for the government shutdown and the current budget crisis, the reverse of what’s been found in the rest of the country. Forty percent of respondents said they fault President Obama and Democrats, while 35 percent blame congressional Republicans and 24 percent say they’re equally guilty. (Nationally, Republicans are getting more blame than Democrats for the shutdown, but only marginally.)
And Tom Cotton, the Arkansas congressman who’s challenging Democratic senator Mark Pryor next year, already has a tight race: 42 percent of voters said they support Pryor, while 41 percent favor Cotton. Forty-two percent of the vote is, needless to say, not a good place for an incumbent. Pryor’s campaign has tried to tie Cotton to Republican stubbornness and the current government shutdown; the congressman’s been cagey on whether he supports the effort. Sixty-two percent of Arkansas voters disapprove of the job President Obama’s doing and just 34 percent approve; 34 percent approve of Pryor and 48 percent disapprove.
This is the state that gave you Clinton, it's now turning hardcore conservative. Soon, the last national Dem (Pryor) will be out, and the last bastions of state government(Gov and AG) will be Republican controlled in the fall of 2014. The moderate Dems never took a stand for their state's values against the Cali and Yankee Dems and they are nearly wiped out due to it. Blue Dogs got put down when they disobeyed master and kept running off with the @#%&^ in heat down the street.
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And Joy, I find happiness in a Dandelion Patch :)
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I'm just not gonna comment anymore on this thread because as I've noticed for a couple years now, I seem to be just about the only liberal Obama-supportive (voted for him both times and would do so again) Democrat on the forum (or at least, the only one who ever speaks up at points), and right now my mood is not in a good place because of my lack of medication (I cried in the makeup aisle at Walmart today for absolutely 100% no reason; all I was doing was following my sister around while she shopped), and getting into political arguments just raises my blood pressure to a degree that makes me lightheaded.
Being a liberal Democratic pansexual agnostic woman, I sometimes feel very disconnected from the majority of our users here because I am so far from the typical audience for SDC. I try my best to stick to just reading SDC-related topics and try to keep away from any of the non-SDC posts, but sometimes I get curious and curiosity is just not a good thing for my health.
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I'm just not gonna comment anymore on this thread because as I've noticed for a couple years now, I seem to be just about the only liberal Obama-supportive (voted for him both times and would do so again) Democrat on the forum (or at least, the only one who ever speaks up at points), and right now my mood is not in a good place because of my lack of medication (I cried in the makeup aisle at Walmart today for absolutely 100% no reason; all I was doing was following my sister around while she shopped), and getting into political arguments just raises my blood pressure to a degree that makes me lightheaded.
Being a liberal Democratic pansexual agnostic woman, I sometimes feel very disconnected from the majority of our users here because I am so far from the typical audience for SDC. I try my best to stick to just reading SDC-related topics and try to keep away from any of the non-SDC posts, but sometimes I get curious and curiosity is just not a good thing for my health.
If it makes you feel better, my son is a high functioning Autistic and I can understand some of the things you go through if you have diagnosed yourself correctly.
As for anger management, I attend therapy here
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...what is that?
I do think I've self-diagnosed properly; I've taken all the available tests that can be found online, watched tons of videos of diagnosed adults talking about what it's like to have Asperger's, and will be calling tomorrow a place I was referred to for a free assessment. I don't know if there's much one can do for someone my age if I get diagnosed, but for me, just finally learning what it is that is so different about me that I've struggled with all my life would be such a huge weight off my mind.
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Joy, I think you will be surprised of the treatments available. My 3rd cousins has Aspegers. He is younger than you (If I remember right-I think you mentioned your age in a post somewhere). Anyway he is in his early 20s. He still has episodes at times, but a new med has helped him lots. Please dont ask what med he is on, I havent a clue. I just know it has helped him.
I think with the right DR. the right meds, and the right therapy. You can control it well. And a terrific amount of PRAYER, "you are healed" (please repeat that in your best TV evangelists voice). Seriously though, prayer (I truly believe) does help. And I will be saying some for you.