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Silver Dollar City & Celebration City Discussion => General Silver Dollar City Talk => Topic started by: sarahdickson on July 29, 2013, 11:36:49 AM
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we just got back from SDC yesterday we went Fri&Sat and Friday before it started raining to hard, we rode O.R. and no problems. Saturday when we went to get in line (2 hr. wait) there was a guy at the entrance with a seat from the ride having people sit in it, if the green light came on you were good, if the red light stayed on you were either too tall or your belly was too large. I asked the guy and he said it was the manufacturer had required a change in the seating restraints, they are not much different but enough different that some people who could once ride it now cannot, my dad being one of them :( I didn't see any posts about it so I thought I would let yall know. I asked the guy if it had to do with the Texas Giant accident and he said that he assumed it probably was. so for all the bigger people they can diet and ride again some day, but for those who are too tall....nothing can be done :(
ETA: On a related note, my 7 y/o rode it for the first time, and now his new favorite ride is switched from PK to OR!!
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Hadn't invisioned being too tall being a problem, but doing the math if a high enough percentage of your body mass is above the lap restraint, I could see that being an issue.
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I think it has to do with the bar across your shins closing in tighter or something, I know it fit different on my legs than it did on Friday.
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I think it has to do with the bar across your shins closing in tighter or something, I know it fit different on my legs than it did on Friday.
I fear this will exclude me with my shoe size being Sz 14. And...I'll be PO'd.
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Oh no! I was just there on Wednesday and I fit okay... now I'm worried that with the changes, I may not be allowed to ride! I'm a large person; quite overweight. But the restraints fit me fine, and as the train goes up the lifthill, it rearranges my body, and I can get the restraint to push down even more. I felt quite wonderfully secured on Wednesday during my two times on the ride.
Man, if this ends up with me not being able to ride, this is really gonna make me mad.
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Well I'm 6'8" and have rode just fine. So if I'm all the sudden too tall to ride was the park putting me in danger in the first place? Of course not. This is probably a knee jerk reaction to the Texas accident. Which shouldn't even matter to SDC since RMC didn't make the Texas Giant cars.
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Well I'm 6'8" and have rode just fine. So if I'm all the sudden too tall to ride was the park putting me in danger in the first place? Of course not. This is probably a knee jerk reaction to the Texas accident. Which shouldn't even matter to SDC since RMC didn't make the Texas Giant cars.
The spin I saw on another site said this was "in the works" and part of evolving the prototype trains to provide a more comfortable ride. My response was, yes, by reducing the size of the possible complaint pool.
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The only thing that needs to be done to make it more comfortable is to add some kind of padding or something to the metal bars so that one doesn't walk away with bruises.
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The update on screamscape sure sounds bad saying men being turned away in droves and not fat ones but farmer/athletic builds. Size 36 waists a tight fit. Aback overreaction and I'll voice my displeasure loudly.
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The update on screamscape sure sounds bad saying men being turned away in droves and not fat ones but farmer/athletic builds. Size 36 waists a tight fit. Aback overreaction and I'll voice my displeasure loudly.
YES! I seen this one guy walking away saying "sucks to be fat" he was probably 6ft and 38" waist at most my brother is short (5'8" ish) and a 36 waist and he was still ok but barely.... and its not SDC who changed it, it was the manufacturer of the seats/restraints
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As our society in general becomes a bit larger - both in size and height, it would beg to reason why the coaster manufactures don't design the seats, and restraints to accommodate a larger range of individuals. Sure, it is very difficult to do a "one size fits all." However they could design at least one row to fit larger folks. I believe Wildfire has a couple of seats that are designed to give a bit more room in the restraints.
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The update on screamscape sure sounds bad saying men being turned away in droves and not fat ones but farmer/athletic builds. Size 36 waists a tight fit. Aback overreaction and I'll voice my displeasure loudly.
YES! I seen this one guy walking away saying "sucks to be fat" he was probably 6ft and 38" waist at most my brother is short (5'8" ish) and a 36 waist and he was still ok but barely.... and its not SDC who changed it, it was the manufacturer of the seats/restraints
And yet I remember Rocky Mountain boasting about testing a 300lb woman and it was just fine. Ithink redesinged trains may be in order. The problem is that Americans are larger and it not just one factor but many I struggled to find AZ 13 shoes as a teen, now it's common place. The issue arises when companies want to sell globally, The Chinese are just smaller than what the melting pot of American genetics produce.
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As our society in general becomes a bit larger - both in size and height, it would beg to reason why the coaster manufactures don't design the seats, and restraints to accommodate a larger range of individuals. Sure, it is very difficult to do a "one size fits all." However they could design at least one row to fit larger folks. I believe Wildfire has a couple of seats that are designed to give a bit more room in the restraints.
It's not nearly that simple. It's always a massive pain in the ass coordinating larger riders around on Wildfire, and that's with four seat rows. You'd have to have a separate row for each body type on OR to accommodate everybody.
It's certainly disappointing that these changes are necessary, but you really can't give them any grief about it. If someone gets thrown out through a freak set of circumstances it will have a massive impact on the park for way into the future. Outlaw Run is simply a much wilder ride than anything that exists at most parks, so there's little room for error. We'll see what happens down the line as they do more research on the seat design and operating procedures.
And chittlins, RMC did do extensive testing with a number of riders. What they couldn't take into account for was that at some point an operator would get tired and not check the restraints carefully enough, and someone who looked like they might have been seated correctly really wasn't. All this hubub comes down to the PTB trying to make sure that their risk is as close to zero as possible. I wouldn't go out on a limb and say they need to redesign the trains - RMC's trains have been a clean operating record so far. They might add seatbelts, but who really knows, none of us are in a position to say what they should or shouldn't do.
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As our society in general becomes a bit larger - both in size and height, it would beg to reason why the coaster manufactures don't design the seats, and restraints to accommodate a larger range of individuals. Sure, it is very difficult to do a "one size fits all." However they could design at least one row to fit larger folks. I believe Wildfire has a couple of seats that are designed to give a bit more room in the restraints.
It's not nearly that simple. It's always a massive pain in the ass coordinating larger riders around on Wildfire, and that's with four seat rows. You'd have to have a separate row for each body type on OR to accommodate everybody.
It's certainly disappointing that these changes are necessary, but you really can't give them any grief about it. If someone gets thrown out through a freak set of circumstances it will have a massive impact on the park for way into the future. Outlaw Run is simply a much wilder ride than anything that exists at most parks, so there's little room for error. We'll see what happens down the line as they do more research on the seat design and operating procedures.
And chittlins, RMC did do extensive testing with a number of riders. What they couldn't take into account for was that at some point an operator would get tired and not check the restraints carefully enough, and someone who looked like they might have been seated correctly really wasn't. All this hubub comes down to the PTB trying to make sure that their risk is as close to zero as possible. I wouldn't go out on a limb and say they need to redesign the trains - RMC's trains have been a clean operating record so far. They might add seatbelts, but who really knows, none of us are in a position to say what they should or shouldn't do.
If it was OK for me to ride until Sat, what changed. I'm to fault for your attendants not checking the restraints properly? If it's so important now, why did you place me in danger previously? I can give them plenty of grief, it's now not what they sold me which was the belief that I as someone that's 6'2 could ride. Maybe if it wasn't down so much on my visits and got more rides in before the change I'd be a little less hacked.
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Chitlins-I understand why the disgust in your posts, but you have no reason to complain at all. You at least did get the chance to ride.
This year has been meyham for me. I have only been to SDC one time this spring (and it snowed that day-OR was closed). We are planning (what may be our final trip to SDC in 2013) in 2 weeks.
I am not quite 6' tall and about a 38" waist. Some jeans I need to buy 40".
I guess if they are turning away 36" waists. I will NEVER be able to ride OR.
Only way to know is to try sitting in the test seat. I guess. -- I have a friend with a 44" waist. He can just barely fit on Batman at SFSL. He can get to one click. I (on the other hand) can ride Batman, but I cant make the first click. The only thing holding the restraint is the seatbelt for me.
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Chitlins-I understand why the disgust in your posts, but you have no reason to complain at all. You at least did get the chance to ride.
This year has been meyham for me. I have only been to SDC one time this spring (and it snowed that day-OR was closed). We are planning (what may be our final trip to SDC in 2013) in 2 weeks.
I am not quite 6' tall and about a 38" waist. Some jeans I need to buy 40".
I guess if they are turning away 36" waists. I will NEVER be able to ride OR.
Only way to know is to try sitting in the test seat. I guess. -- I have a friend with a 44" waist. He can just barely fit on Batman at SFSL. He ;Dcan get to one click. I (on the other hand) can ride Batman, but I cant make the first click. The only thing holding the restraint is the seatbelt for me.
I'm currently in 38/40jeans depending on who makes them. I am very broad shouldered and coming out of high school I wore 34s I had a 52 inch chest. B&Ms like Wildfire are a no go for me because I had the audacity to do power clings. :)
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Does anyone think we'll see different trains next year with over the shoulder restraints?
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Does anyone think we'll see different trains next year with over the shoulder restraints?
Some think seatbeats would fix it.
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I would hope for all you riders that this "concern" will go by the wayside and be back to normal in a month or so.. With the Texas accident and the "lady" crying "wolf", everyone in the trade is on overtime looking for problems and ways to "fix" them before they happen.
No need for new cars, there have been no problems. From what I hear the ride just would not be the same with shoulder restraints..
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I'm pretty sure the goal was not to limit their rider audience. This can't be anything but frustrating for HFE. For a park that boasts "family-friendly" rides, this effectively limits the riders to kids and teenagers. A redesign must be in order.
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My daughter will not ride it without her Daddy. This effects two of us. The reason we bought season tickets was for Outlaw Run this year. After it being down on multiple trips along with Powder Keg as well, maybe it's time SDC thinks about a GCI.
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Does anyone think we'll see different trains next year with over the shoulder restraints?
Some think seatbeats would fix it.
I'm definitely not a physicist, but seat belts sure would be an easy "backup" fix. I like it. :)
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I will be there tomorrow. I am 6'1" and 180 lb. I will report back on whether I was able to ride or not
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Wildfire, I would sure hope you can ride it....
because if you cant that will count out about 50% of potential riders or more...... :o :o :o :o
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I will be there tomorrow. I am 6'1" and 180 lb. I will report back on whether I was able to ride or not
I haven't been 180 since Jr high. :)
There's one poster at another that swears this was in the works for some time and it's more about comfort. If that's the case it's even more boneheaded. Got to admit I'm having a hard time forgiving and forgeting due to the pitch that this would accommodate larger people.
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When I relayed this dilema to a former coworker (who feels that everything in some percentage is a conspiracy) immediately said this. "I have heard that one of the biggest complaints about OR, is from the employees (citizens) that the lines are too long, and they are too busy trying to keep the lines flowing. I bet this new restraint procedure is really a ploy to reduce the line so the employees can twiddle their thumbs."
Of course I do really like this guy, and we spent lots of time together at SFSL. He still works at SFSL, I no longer work there. This guy lives a miles away from me, I stopped by the other day.
All I can say is that a typical SFSL employee would feel this way, and maybe even say it in public. I have never felt like an SDC citizen shares this opinion. But if HFE had this in mind with this procedure, they deserve to lose every guest throughout the entire (remaining) 2013 season. I (and I imagine everyone here) would be simply up-haulled).
I believe this situation will be worked by 2014 if not by OTC 2013.
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I cannot imagine HFE wanting to reduce ridership on their new, $10 MIL coaster. That's plain silly. I suspect they're pulling their hair out over it. OR has had a tough year already, and, as little as I like coasters or care about coaster fandom, I really want OR to succeed because a whole bunch of SDC's future is riding on on thsoe wooden tracks.
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So what exactly has changed about the restraints? Anybody have some pictures or could explain or get some? Is it less accommodating than powder keg? Looking for more info.
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Saturday had a 6 inch difference, I couldn't ride. I was MAD. Sunday however just had a 4 inch difference and I could. The bar now goes to your thighs, not your middle. Some tall people, and bigger had to still get off. I am just glad they are trying to keep us safe. The ride operators on OR are some of the most attentive in the park. I am 5'9 1/2 and 235. Again, I stress it is ALL just for safety, no one wants a repeat of the incident at Six Flags. This was the manufacturer's decision, not SDC's. I know the ride operators are just as frustrated. They've been cussed at and spit on. I promise they are doing everything they can to fix this to everyone's liking. In the mean time, it's salads for me. I've ridden OR 80 times and I'm not about to stop now.
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They told one rider on Sun before it went down that his thighs were too large and would not allow the bar to go lower. He didn't have much a spare tire.
Another poster somewhere said from what he witnessed at least one person from every load was getting the boot. That ballparks it at least 50 people per hour.
So that is hundreds on a busy Sat that may not be vocal but unhappy patrons that may not return to the park, patrons with families in tow. That may not be the "droves" that Swoosh's favorite rollercoaster expert called idiodic while also trashing "park centric" sites like this. You certainly can't disagree there either. That "droves" account was reported at Screamscape by the way
I suppose what hacks me most is the nonresponse I've gotten from my email to HFE. They don't want to talk about or address the change publically it seems.
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So what exactly has changed about the restraints? Anybody have some pictures or could explain or get some? Is it less accommodating than powder keg? Looking for more info.
They just don't want you to blanking die. ::)
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I was able to ride fine. I saw people taller than me ride and I'm 6'1". I did witness a quy about 6'2" 275ish get turned away.
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I suppose what hacks me most is the nonresponse I've gotten from my email to HFE. They don't want to talk about or address the change publically it seems.
From emmabugsmama's report, it sounds like it's changing day to day. If they put anything out publicly, it probably wouldn't be accurate by the time it was read.
I'm 5'10", and probably pushing 270 at the moment. My belly is big, but my thighs aren't fat; they're huge in a muscular way, and always have been. I could leg press 750 pounds when I weighed 148 in high school.
My fat belly will give way for the bar, but if they're cranking it down that tight on the thighs, I might be a no-go too.
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I'll be very interested the next time I'm at the park and check out the new restraints. On opening day I was 6'8" and around 300 pound and fit just fine (except for that bar pressing against my shins). Since then I have lost 40 pounds and have fit even better. So if NOW all the sudden it's a safety concern is jus ridiculous. I'm just now returning from Cedar Point and got on both Millenium Force and Top Thrill Dragster and those coasters are notorious for having tight seatbelts. And I don't want to hear "at least you go to ride". It's worse now knowing what I may never get to ride again.
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I suppose what hacks me most is the nonresponse I've gotten from my email to HFE. They don't want to talk about or address the change publically it seems.
From emmabugsmama's report, it sounds like it's changing day to day. If they put anything out publicly, it probably wouldn't be accurate by the time it was read.
I'm 5'10", and probably pushing 270 at the moment. My belly is big, but my thighs aren't fat; they're huge in a muscular way, and always have been. I could leg press 750 pounds when I weighed 148 in high school.
My fat belly will give way for the bar, but if they're cranking it down that tight on the thighs, I might be a no-go too.
The is me, I have a Sherman Tank frame. My calves are huge and pants legs fit tight around them all supported by size 14 feet.
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I forgot to mention they had cubbys in the station. That may be old news but it had been a couple months since we had been
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Sceamscape share an official response from SDC that confirms the more restrictive restraints and places it on RMC. Screamscape says the change was just an inch which does not match what's been posted here. Maybe they changed it more during the week. It seems the big issue is the shin bar. To accommodate larger and taller legs it seems they need more space between the lap and shin bar, or another way of saying it is the shin bar needs to be lowed to accomodate knee bends better as seen in this photo
(http://www.themeparkinsider.com/photos/images/IMG_0615.JPG)
Another improvement would be to have more space under the seat.
Sadly, I have no confidence that these trains will be modified and we are stuck with this issue but future trains at other parks will be just swell. The best I could hope for is a row or two of retrofits per train in the less popular areas.
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Am I the only one who tucks my feet back so I'm on my tiptoes when riding this? It's the only way I can get my legs in with that shin bar. My feet have never been flat on the floor.
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Am I the only one who tucks my feet back so I'm on my tiptoes when riding this? It's the only way I can get my legs in with that shin bar. My feet have never been flat on the floor.
No, my heels were about an inch, inch and a half off due to the shin bar being tied into the waist. My balls of my feet were fine and it wasn't awful. A lower placement of the shin bar would go along way to remedy that. Another fix would be pads placed in the inside of the bar that runs from the shin bar and lap bar. Encapsulated memory foam would do the trick as it would compress and allow the same width but decrease bruising that some complain about.
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What is this SF incident that folks are referring to?
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What is this SF incident that folks are referring to?
A rider was ejected and fell and died from the new Texas Giant. RMC did the rebuild using their track system (but different from OR) It did not use RMC trains like those on OR but Gerstlauer trains.
I once worked in the lab of the manufacturer of the OEM wheels that were on the Ford Explorer roll off event, I know all about CYA and others looking for someone elder to blame. That was a stressful couple of months.
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In my opinion Lance at Screamscape is over-reacting. Like I've said before, there is a right and wrong way to approach this issue, and we simply must be understanding of what the park and manufacturer are going through to make sure there is no risk to anyone's safety. It sucks for everyone, but the only proper thing to do is voice your concerns civilly and let the park and manufacturer work it out as they are able to.
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Also, just a heads up: it sounds like Robb Alvey over at TPR is planning to bash this site pretty heavily in the next TPR update. The crew is at SDC this weekend doing on of the TPR-led tours of parks across the midwest. Apparently he thinks we've all been over here complaining and digging at the park over the restraint changes. Obviously that isn't true and he's trying to stir up trouble. Honestly, that man just loves his drama. He'll ban people over the slightest infraction and claim that he wants to keep TPR free of drama, but then turns around and pulls stunts like this whenever he gets the chance.
It's not worth getting into, and I certainly don't want to see anyone from SDCFans respond to it. I do plan on calling him out on it, but of course it's just going to result in me being banned and he'll keep playing his games. Please just ignore it and lets focus on promoting the park's image and leading positive discussions.
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It stinks that the park finds itself needing to make such adjustments, but I think we all appreciate their constantly looking out for the well-being of their customers. I've seen lesser parks who repair rides using duct tape.
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Also, just a heads up: it sounds like Robb Alvey over at TPR is planning to bash this site pretty heavily in the next TPR update. The crew is at SDC this weekend doing on of the TPR-led tours of parks across the midwest. Apparently he thinks we've all been over here complaining and digging at the park over the restraint changes. Obviously that isn't true and he's trying to stir up trouble. Honestly, that man just loves his drama. He'll ban people over the slightest infraction and claim that he wants to keep TPR free of drama, but then turns around and pulls stunts like this whenever he gets the chance.
It's not worth getting into, and I certainly don't want to see anyone from SDCFans respond to it. I do plan on calling him out on it, but of course it's just going to result in me being banned and he'll keep playing his games. Please just ignore it and lets focus on promoting the park's image and leading positive discussions.
I've been critical no doubt. Only because I want the place to be as inclusive as it can be.
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Shave, don't give him the time of day, don't respond - it only inflates his ego. You do not need him, we do not need him, the industry doesn't need him.
You have the power to delete any negative comments that he my leave, or any that his minions may also place on the site. It really is sad that kind of attitude exists in a grown man.
Ignoring it will not be a problem, but Chittlins has already offered to take Rob hunting....and if that happens, I want to go too!
Jay
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Shave, don't give him the time of day, don't respond - it only inflates his ego. You do not need him, we do not need him, the industry doesn't need him.
You have the power to delete any negative comments that he my leave, or any that his minions may also place on the site. It really is sad that kind of attitude exists in a grown man.
Ignoring it will not be a problem, but Chittlins has already offered to take Rob hunting....and if that happens, I want to go too!
Jay
He'd faint or his legs would get so tired that It wouldn't make it over a submerged log and drink some swamp water. But, I'd take him, pay for his license even. Doubt he's got a hunter's safety cert though. If I was really mean, I'd hit the shallow soft bottom. You wouldn't sink to China. just above your knee cap before you hit the hard clay pan but you would think you are.
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Shave, don't give him the time of day, don't respond - it only inflates his ego. You do not need him, we do not need him, the industry doesn't need him.
You have the power to delete any negative comments that he my leave, or any that his minions may also place on the site. It really is sad that kind of attitude exists in a grown man.
Ignoring it will not be a problem, but Chittlins has already offered to take Rob hunting....and if that happens, I want to go too!
Jay
So many Dick Cheney jokes just came into my head. Anyway back on topic I don't think the new restraints will be a huge deal it will make the ride a little more uncomfortable but if it makes the ride safer then I'm all for it.
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Ah Chitlins-why be so nice to ol Rob? ;D I grew up around, and later driving dirt cars. Just let me take him for a friendly ride! I don't have my Trans Am anymore, but my Son just about has his 383 ready to drop back in to his Trans Am. Shoot that car could make OR feel like Grannys Buick. I would be more than happy to give Rob a tour of my area late at night.
You know what. I think Rob might really enjoy that hunting trip with you after I drive him to your place. ;D ;D ;D
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OK you are right. Back on subject. I don't blame anyone to make changes on the concern for safety. I am not angry that I never got the chance to ride OR. "Maybe" a little jealous of those of you that did. (And YES, you can slice it any way you want, having been able to ride it at least once is better than never being able to). Absolutely do not even try to argue that point. I am 100% accurate here and you know it!
Anyway I understand if the larger/taller riders may have been in danger before, then by all means, lets do something about it. Even if it means some of us may never ride it, I guess that is better than it being the "final ride"
I really do hope that HFE and RMC (and anyone else who can help), can come up with a plan to change/retrofit the cars so that they can accommodate various sizes of riders. I mean all the coaster cars at SFSL has had different restraint systems since their inception (except maybe batman and the mine train). My point is--its not impossible. One thing about HFE is that they are nothing like Six flags or WOF. I do believe they are discussing possibilities daily, and I think we will see a different system by opening 2014. I have confidence that this will be reconciled by then, and we can all ride again (for the first time).
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Reports from the folks on the TPR trip so far indicate that most people weren't affected. To me it sounds like a lot of the issues that some are having are stemming from being too tall for the shin guards as opposed to having guts that are too large. Again, this is probably something that could end up being adjusted again later on. We'll just have to see what happens.
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It would be interesting to see how this whole episode will effect HFE's thinking in deciding what attractions to add in the future...
I'm pretty sure the goal was not to limit their rider audience. This can't be anything but frustrating for HFE. For a park that boasts "family-friendly" rides, this effectively limits the riders to kids and teenagers. A redesign must be in order.
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When I was at the park earlier in the summer I ran into Brad Thomas on the observation deck watching people ride...he seemed to enjoy watching everybody have a blast...probably enjoyed that just about as much as he did riding it himself...I truly think he and the other PTB want their visitors to enjoy their experience to the fullest...their hands seemed to be tied to the red tape at this point but I truly think that they'll get things figured out quickly...the way I see it is they have to play the game for now and get things fixed so the ride can be enjoyed for many years down the road by it's visitors...if, not taking the necessary precautions right now, something were to happen and somebody was hurt or killed the ride would probably be closed and nobody would get to ride it ever...I'd hate to see it turn into an OzCat sitting in ruins...
OK you are right. Back on subject. I don't blame anyone to make changes on the concern for safety. I am not angry that I never got the chance to ride OR. "Maybe" a little jealous of those of you that did. (And YES, you can slice it any way you want, having been able to ride it at least once is better than never being able to). Absolutely do not even try to argue that point. I am 100% accurate here and you know it!
Anyway I understand if the larger/taller riders may have been in danger before, then by all means, lets do something about it. Even if it means some of us may never ride it, I guess that is better than it being the "final ride"
I really do hope that HFE and RMC (and anyone else who can help), can come up with a plan to change/retrofit the cars so that they can accommodate various sizes of riders. I mean all the coaster cars at SFSL has had different restraint systems since their inception (except maybe batman and the mine train). My point is--its not impossible. One thing about HFE is that they are nothing like Six flags or WOF. I do believe they are discussing possibilities daily, and I think we will see a different system by opening 2014. I have confidence that this will be reconciled by then, and we can all ride again (for the first time).
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saw this on FB about 3 this morning..... Hope it is all true..??
http://www.screamscape.com/html/silver_dollar_city.htm
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Yes, Blobb from Theme Park Revenue fit on the ride -- that is good news for all of us posters as Mr. Jabba the Hut is much bigger than all of us. (and no, I cannot stand his Royal Lardness)
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I was at the park on Friday, (was behind one of the TPR guys, noticed his backpack), I was kicked of OR because the restraint would not go down to their satisfaction,(I am 5'7"and weight around 250#). The test car out front gave me the green light too. Yes I was upset with this since I rode twice in March. But I have to also admit that I have had issues with getting into the seats on WF in the past and this time found it much more tighter it was to get the restraints and saftey bars of TGS and the Gallion to lock. I guess this is going to give me even more incentive to lose weight now because I have been looking forward to being able to ride these coasters with the grandkids now that they are getting big enough.
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WOW!! Swoosh!!. don't hold back!!. tell us what u really think..!! ;)
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That is just the tip of the iceberg. I really was holding back.
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LMAO!! DUDE!!! I know your holding back.. good job.! since this is a family site, you probably should not tell us what you really think ;)
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I was at the park on Friday, (was behind one of the TPR guys, noticed his backpack), I was kicked of OR because the restraint would not go down to their satisfaction,(I am 5'7"and weight around 250#). The test car out front gave me the green light too. Yes I was upset with this since I rode twice in March. But I have to also admit that I have had issues with getting into the seats on WF in the past and this time found it much more tighter it was to get the restraints and saftey bars of TGS and the Gallion to lock. I guess this is going to give me even more incentive to lose weight now because I have been looking forward to being able to ride these coasters with the grandkids now that they are getting big enough.
See it's not so much about weight but how that is distributed on your frame.
What you likely will not see is Alvey post what Lance did (well he may now but that will not fit his poor narrative of this Fantastic Pro SDC site. And.... since I know they read the board, a email to your season pass holders or updates on social media like Facebook and EVEN HERE or through Swoosh's Blog during this whole thing and providing updates would have been PRO ACTIVE, instead it was reactive or just plain hushed. It's good to know that HFCs email system was down at he beginning of the week ;) ;D
Alvey must be a PETA member or touchy about man boobs cause that post got me permanently banned. I'm going to lose sleep.
Wonder if he scarfed down some fried twinkies or snickers bars at the Texas State Fair.
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I didn't fit in the left side but did on the right in the front. In the back I fit in both.
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I didn't fit in the left side but did on the right in the front. In the back I fit in both.
Was this last weekend or this weekend? We are only planning two to three more trips to SDC this year, once to take my Brother and his family on a Sun after a Razorback game and again during OTC using our BOF. My Brother is 6'3 and 270 but runs 5Ks.
We need to keep a record as to which seats settings are more forgiving than others, I love the back, so good news. Was it the very back row?
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I absolutely do not want to see any more grudges dug up against Robb on here. I'm certainly perturbed by him at this point and think he stirs up drama, but I don't want that to spread any more than it has.
Let's agree that the situation with OR's seats seems to be evolving and that the park is doing the best it can to accommodate everyone as it deals with increased (and unwarranted) scrutiny.
EDIT - Furthermore, "flaming" is not allowed on this site, even if the person being flamed isn't even a member. I'm certainly guilty of being disparaging myself from time to time, but some of these posts have crossed the line.
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When I was at the park earlier in the summer I ran into Brad Thomas on the observation deck watching people ride...he seemed to enjoy watching everybody have a blast...probably enjoyed that just about as much as he did riding it himself...I truly think he and the other PTB want their visitors to enjoy their experience to the fullest...their hands seemed to be tied to the red tape at this point but I truly think that they'll get things figured out quickly...the way I see it is they have to play the game for now and get things fixed so the ride can be enjoyed for many years down the road by it's visitors...if, not taking the necessary precautions right now, something were to happen and somebody was hurt or killed the ride would probably be closed and nobody would get to ride it ever...I'd hate to see it turn into an OzCat sitting in ruins...
OK you are right. Back on subject. I don't blame anyone to make changes on the concern for safety. I am not angry that I never got the chance to ride OR. "Maybe" a little jealous of those of you that did. (And YES, you can slice it any way you want, having been able to ride it at least once is better than never being able to). Absolutely do not even try to argue that point. I am 100% accurate here and you know it!
Anyway I understand if the larger/taller riders may have been in danger before, then by all means, lets do something about it. Even if it means some of us may never ride it, I guess that is better than it being the "final ride"
I really do hope that HFE and RMC (and anyone else who can help), can come up with a plan to change/retrofit the cars so that they can accommodate various sizes of riders. I mean all the coaster cars at SFSL has had different restraint systems since their inception (except maybe batman and the mine train). My point is--its not impossible. One thing about HFE is that they are nothing like Six flags or WOF. I do believe they are discussing possibilities daily, and I think we will see a different system by opening 2014. I have confidence that this will be reconciled by then, and we can all ride again (for the first time).
I maintain faint hope for OzCat. Kentucky Kingdom is reopening and Thunder Run that has been SBNO longer than OZCat will reopen next year after a overhaul by, wait for it, RMC. And... they apparently are going to work on Twisted Twins for 2016. That's the one rebuild to watch as it's a dueling woodie.
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I have rode OR twice. Each time my 6'5" size 15 feet hardly could get in the ride. My shins were so bruised each time, I decided not to ride it any longer. It hurts. Give me WF any time. Sorry I'm not impressed with OR.
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I have rode OR twice. Each time my 6'5" size 15 feet hardly could get in the ride. My shins were so bruised each time, I decided not to ride it any longer. It hurts. Give me WF any time. Sorry I'm not impressed with OR.
This is what most complain about and the lack of padding on the sides of the restraint. This should be viewed as nothing but constructive criticism. On a sidenote, has anyone out there heard about the ride quality of the non OTSRs on the newer Gerstlauer Eurofighters trains like that one down at Galveston. Mystery Mine has OTSR and I've seen some banging complaints common place across the industry. I remember my rides on the Revolution at Liberty Land and the double corkscrew on that Arrow was like being in a boxing match with George Frazier. So much so I don't whine about Vekomas.
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I didn't fit in the left side but did on the right in the front. In the back I fit in both.
Was this last weekend or this weekend? We are only planning two to three more trips to SDC this year, once to take my Brother and his family on a Sun after a Razorback game and again during OTC using our BOF. My Brother is 6'3 and 270 but runs 5Ks.
We need to keep a record as to which seats settings are more forgiving than others, I love the back, so good news. Was it the very back row?
it was the weekend of the 26th when they made the changes
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Well I think it is the lenght of your legs, and the size of your thighs that basically determine whether or not you ride OR now.
I did fit in the restraints with room to spare. I am about 5-10 with a 38"-40" waist. However my thighs are not very big around, and my legs are not real long. A lady sat in the test seat before me. She was shorter. Probably weighed about what I weigh. Her legs was not long either, but her thighs were real big around. She did NOT get the green light.
It really is hard to determine who will/wont fit. Just go up and sit in the test seat.
Having rode it now. I certainly understand WHY the new regulations. I agree with others now. I "believe" seat belts would eliminate any future problems. Either full belts around the waist, OR (like "Freeze" at SFSL) just a seat belt (per say) attched to the restraint (lap bar) itself. That would prevent the bar from raising up at all.
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Well I think it is the lenght of your legs, and the size of your thighs that basically determine whether or not you ride OR now.
I did fit in the restraints with room to spare. I am about 5-10 with a 38"-40" waist. However my thighs are not very big around, and my legs are not real long. A lady sat in the test seat before me. She was shorter. Probably weighed about what I weigh. Her legs was not long either, but her thighs were real big around. She did NOT get the green light.
It really is hard to determine who will/wont fit. Just go up and sit in the test seat.
Having rode it now. I certainly understand WHY the new regulations. I agree with others now. I "believe" seat belts would eliminate any future problems. Either full belts around the waist, OR (like "Freeze" at SFSL) just a seat belt (per say) attched to the restraint (lap bar) itself. That would prevent the bar from raising up at all.
At this point I would be surprised if they didn't make the necessary changes for next year. Has to be a lot of grumbling, not only from those who "can't" ride, but also those who can and get bruised up. This is a great ride and I wouldn't think adding seat belts, etc, would be too difficult. Of course, though, what do I know about roller coasters?
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Well I think it is the lenght of your legs, and the size of your thighs that basically determine whether or not you ride OR now.
I did fit in the restraints with room to spare. I am about 5-10 with a 38"-40" waist. However my thighs are not very big around, and my legs are not real long. A lady sat in the test seat before me. She was shorter. Probably weighed about what I weigh. Her legs was not long either, but her thighs were real big around. She did NOT get the green light.
It really is hard to determine who will/wont fit. Just go up and sit in the test seat.
Having rode it now. I certainly understand WHY the new regulations. I agree with others now. I "believe" seat belts would eliminate any future problems. Either full belts around the waist, OR (like "Freeze" at SFSL) just a seat belt (per say) attched to the restraint (lap bar) itself. That would prevent the bar from raising up at all.
This sounds troubling for those that could leg press 650+lbs. :-[
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cheapest and easiest fix would be to add seatbelts
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Got to the park today and wasn't able to ride since it was just me and my 6 year old (we did ride TNT 11 times though). I was able to get up to the test seat to see what the verdict was. As long as the test seat matches the actual trains, the tall guys should still be ok. Like I've said earlier, I go 6'8" and have always had the shin bar pressing into me. I got the green light with a few extra inches to spare.