Well at this point in the game--anything--can be possible. So I will throw in my pennys worth.
I know a real popular ride at other parks right now is an "elevator" type ride. You know, you go up a couple hundred feet (straight up a pole basically) then go freefalling down at a rate that could bust concrete, before screeching to a halt just mere feet before impact.
Since (probably) none of us really have an idea what will be next project will be (except possibly Swoosh) I will guess this type of ride. (Swoosh is good at his job. If he does know, it will be kept secret---as it should).
Take a look at this.
http://web.archive.org/web/20120725061424/http://www.primeplay.com/splash_track.html
The website is now behind a login wall; and judging from the lack of other times available, making it public was probably a mistake.
As always, HFEC and SDC continue to impress with a commitment to park growth and entertainment value. Really excited to hear that another possible major addition could be just around the corner. However, in fairness, would a steeplechase type coaster or interactive water coaster really qualify as a major project? Neither of those scenarios seem overly significant in comparison to the likes of OR. And in terms of the fiscal investment, one could argue that even OR wasn't very major. All that said, let me be clear that I am thrilled with the addition of OR, and would welcome another coaster of any kind.
Really hard to gauge any speculation or rumors at this point, but if we're talking about something new for 2015, and it's going to be big, I would hope we would be getting some more concrete clues be the end of this year.
My dream scenario would be upgrades to MM, FITH and AP for 2014. Then, one of two things for 2015:
1) Another major addition near OR, plus new demo/retail spaces to create an entirely new park area
2) Another major addition near the old WB site, with a new path connecting GG to Wilson's Farm, opening a full loop around Silver Lake.
The 2015 addition will be a MAJOR addition.
I've not heard a dollar figure yet.
A 4D does not seem right to me. It's a huge coaster that would be very difficult to theme. The thing would stand out like a sore thumb and tear the landscape up. With every project in the past being hidden in the trees and complimenting the terrain I cannot see SDC installing one of these. Yes DW built wild eagle, but it has nothing to do with Dollywood. Do we really want a random bird flying through the city? Lest think about the park with our answers, not our "coaster" organ!''
Did anyone see Dolly Parton on the news this morning promoting her new attraction? It looked like a water coaster water ride?yeah, that's the big new thing at Dollywood's waterpark. Hopefully that's what lands at Whitewater next season. I'd just soon they started over with a waterpark closer to the city and a better surrounding environment.
As I mentioned in my earlier post, while Outlaw Run can be considered a major attraction, the investment for it's construction ($10 million) wasn't much above that of River Blast ($7 million).That's something to ponder. I think if you look at the Running of the bulls at opening you will see how well spent the OR funds were when juxtaposing this attraction against the RB. I have never been on RB and I have never seen a line for it. On the busiest days I have never noted a line. Interesting how close to the same amount of money used differently can have a real impact on the park.
QuoteAs I mentioned in my earlier post, while Outlaw Run can be considered a major attraction, the investment for it's construction ($10 million) wasn't much above that of River Blast ($7 million).That's something to ponder. I think if you look at the Running of the bulls at opening you will see how well spent the OR funds were when juxtaposing this attraction against the RB. I have never been on RB and I have never seen a line for it. On the busiest days I have never noted a line. Interesting how close to the same amount of money used differently can have a real impact on the park.
I would be ok with a 4th dimension coaster. But not a clone, or a copy. Or at the expense of anything currently in the park.
Coasters are fun but seeing SDC become Six Flags isn't something I enjoy. Theming with the coasters is limited. I think WF has used theming the best out of all the coasters at SDC. How about the Ice House idea? this could include dark ride elements that's something we all enjoy.
The budget for River Blast also included a lot of demo work, excavation and as mentioned above, plumbing. The filled a void that was needed at the park and I feel they did an amazing job with that project.
This next project (2015) will fill another "void," so to speak, and it is about time.
I do know the Mystery Mine ride at Dollywood cost 17.5 million in 2007 I think it was...
I don't think we'll ever see a Mystery Mine ride at SDC. Apparently the PTB are not overly satisfied with how it is aged. It is rather rough in several places. I honestly think if it went to a lapbar only it would be more comfortable, but that's just me.
QuoteAs I mentioned in my earlier post, while Outlaw Run can be considered a major attraction, the investment for it's construction ($10 million) wasn't much above that of River Blast ($7 million).That's something to ponder. I think if you look at the Running of the bulls at opening you will see how well spent the OR funds were when juxtaposing this attraction against the RB. I have never been on RB and I have never seen a line for it. On the busiest days I have never noted a line. Interesting how close to the same amount of money used differently can have a real impact on the park.
I would be ok with a 4th dimension coaster. But not a clone, or a copy. Or at the expense of anything currently in the park.
Coasters are fun but seeing SDC become Six Flags isn't something I enjoy. Theming with the coasters is limited. I think WF has used theming the best out of all the coasters at SDC. How about the Ice House idea? this could include dark ride elements that's something we all enjoy.
Plumbing and excavation ain't cheap. River Blast was a fine addition, on a somewhat slow day when there's just enough folks to keep folks in the boats and the stationary cannons not too crowded and you can spend lots of time there getting drenched. It they had ever really considered that ride concept we posted from whitewater, it would have been very neat to see it mixed in with River Blast to make it a four way battle between boat to boat, stationary cannons and flyin' contraption.
Something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue?
River Blast has so few riders because it is geared for around the 8 to 12 year old range. Adults mostly do not want to get wet. Teenagers don't find it to be very much of a thrill and young riders don't want to be shot in the face, get wet or are too cold. It fills a small void but leaves a lot of voids open.
QuoteRiver Blast has so few riders because it is geared for around the 8 to 12 year old range. Adults mostly do not want to get wet. Teenagers don't find it to be very much of a thrill and young riders don't want to be shot in the face, get wet or are too cold. It fills a small void but leaves a lot of voids open.
Well put. I agree 100% They exclude many more than they invite for a rather high dollar well themed experience.
QuoteRiver Blast has so few riders because it is geared for around the 8 to 12 year old range. Adults mostly do not want to get wet. Teenagers don't find it to be very much of a thrill and young riders don't want to be shot in the face, get wet or are too cold. It fills a small void but leaves a lot of voids open.
Well put. I agree 100% They exclude many more than they invite for a rather high dollar well themed experience.
The problem with the statement is that it is inaccurate. River Blast has no problem getting and keeping a long line during the summer months - as is the same with the other two water rides. IF you were to apply the same logic that you are using on judging River Blast's lines to the other water rides - one would conclude that ALL water rides are not popular at SDC.
It has been chilly thus far and the lines for all 3 water rides have been non existent. There will be lines come June - July - August
Unless you are actually queuing for RB, you will not actually see the line.
The PPH for it is also higher for RB
Something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue?Something Old= Balloon Ride???
I don't mind getting soaked. Just don't shoot me in the face.
Swoosh who's your contact? Do we know the same person? ;)
IF you were to apply the same logic that you are using on judging River Blast's lines to the other water rides - one would conclude that ALL water rides are not popular at SDC.
QuoteIF you were to apply the same logic that you are using on judging River Blast's lines to the other water rides - one would conclude that ALL water rides are not popular at SDC.
I would think that is an unfair judgment to make. I do have the luxury of living close and going on slow days with low attendance. I feel on these days you see what rides have the most demand. No doubt RB has many fans but you will see many empty boats traveling along the trough on light attendance days. I have never seen a line that parallels the larger coasters even though the cost of RB was 70% of the latest coaster. Its interesting what return and response SDC gets for the money.
RB capacity is amazing- you would need to see the numbers to make an accurate assessment. Also, RB doesn't remove boats so they are always at maximize capacity; you must take several factors in consideration. I think it meets a need- parents with small kids can ride a water ride together, it's another water ride with great theme and it's an interactive ride.
Im going to go back to subject here. I originally guessed the 2015 "new" ride would be a "terror tower" of sorts.
OK I still guess this will be the ride, but with a twist maybe. A series of rides "stacked". Like the tower ride will be in the center. Maybe an observation deck on top. Possibly a roller coaster and/or a water boggin/flume type ride circling around the outside.
Of course the 2015 project might not be at SDC at all. It might be a brand new "hydro-magnetic" powered water coaster at White Water. Or a tornado at WW.
Now I have 3 guesses. Is this legal?
Either of my 3 guesses would be great rides
Im going to go back to subject here. I originally guessed the 2015 "new" ride would be a "terror tower" of sorts.
OK I still guess this will be the ride, but with a twist maybe. A series of rides "stacked". Like the tower ride will be in the center. Maybe an observation deck on top. Possibly a roller coaster and/or a water boggin/flume type ride circling around the outside.
Of course the 2015 project might not be at SDC at all. It might be a brand new "hydro-magnetic" powered water coaster at White Water. Or a tornado at WW.
Now I have 3 guesses. Is this legal?
Either of my 3 guesses would be great rides
The lockers actually were put in to cut down on the wait time. We found out they cut down the wait time by 20% and are great for busy days.
The lockers actually were put in to cut down on the wait time. We found out they cut down the wait time by 20% and are great for busy days.They are a great way to squeeze another dollar out of our wallets! Its a tough " $ " day at SDC now with Skillet Meals costing 8.99 and soft drinks costing what they would in the normal world ONLY if you pony up $20.00 for 2 refillable mugs. It feels like they have got you coming and going. I don't feel they are delivering something tangible and unique that you don't mind separating with your money for here. They need to concentrate on making us happy to separate with our money for what they are offering, right now it just feels like a money grab. Times are tough for the Midwest middle class and I think this leaves a bad taste in some folks mouths that can hardly afford to go to the park and eat let alone rent a locker to put there stuff in so they can ride a ride.
The lockers actually were put in to cut down on the wait time. We found out they cut down the wait time by 20% and are great for busy days.
Those Walks Of Shame really slow things downAlong with being terribly embarrassing for everyone involved.
the other inverted woodies are open
Here's the redone Hades at Mt. Olympus with Gravity Groups Timberliners
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s2KmjufJPc
heres the Iron Rattler that RMC redid using it's other I box track like Texas Giant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNG32im6vJE
Water effects and cave make me want to get to San Antonio very soon.
I was really surprised that SDC did not put in the free, timed lockers like Universal Orlando has. I had recently visited Universal and found it to be very convenient.
It seems like a number of people expect SDC to get a Wing Rider for the next coaster, but it doesn't seem like the direction SDC would want to keep heading. Then again, I said the same thing about OR, but now that they have OR, aren't they expected to focus more on other areas of their clientele interest pool? Perhaps they are in an arms race for coasters to build themselves up against SFSTL and WOF. It does seem like they have changed the overall product so much now that their draw now depends largely on their coasters. I guess basketweaving and kid's playhouses just don't get as many news articles written about them.
... but that's the same old conversation we keep having. Getting back to my point, I expect them to build a family coaster next. Intamin, Zierer, and Mack all build some great family coasters that appeal to wide audiences, and we know HFEC just started a relationship with Mack. Dollywood is rumored to get a Mack coaster for 2014. If they do, then it's probably a sure thing that we'll get one next. Actually, no matter what DW gets in 2014, we'll probably get it next. ::)
OK.. here is my "hope" for the new "coaster ;)".... I dont remember names, But you all know what i am talking about.. I have been hoping that it would be designed after the design that the kid on the tv show Undercover Boss.. You know the one that Mamby was talking to, and he had a coaster design on his laptop.. Part of the ride went under water. how cool would that be, down and around GG, through/under lake silver and then back.. Yea i know.. Probably not feasable.... BUT what if it could be done.!?!?!?!?!?!?
Examples
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I don't see AP going anywhere, it's a popular attraction. Besides EVERY theme park has to have flume ride, right?
Agreed junior, i dont see anything ha[ppening there unless they were to modify/improve/repair the AP.
The waterboggan area seems to be the logical choice..
BUT as Swoosh would say................... we will see! ???
I think we will see something to replace the american plunge and fill the spot behind the waterfall. That looks like the most likely spot to me.
The 2015 addition has been set in stone for awhile and all signs are pointing to "old and reliable"
I said "reliable"
I wonder what the likelihood of this being a inverted coaster is. Honestly it's something they don't have. Although we do already have two in the state so I sort of doubt it. However I dream of a B&M hyper coaster! Airtime through the hills baby! :-P
After looking at close up of SDC, pic must have been taken after mid march (becasue the park is open and BUSY)
But before worldfest. (no banners, booths that I can see)
Love the zoom capability..
An in theme turn table for the train? They need to theme behind the multi-purpose building (blue metal building) you see on Thunderation, plus the back of FITH, the Opera House, and a few other locations on the edge of the park that are viewable from rides/train. I'm still a stickler for that stuff, but likely my ongoing minor gripes about it won't be listened to. But you are right, that turn table should be in theme, and I hope they get to moving or theming physical plant locations so expansion can continue.
There is a reason that there are not many coasters with water features left. You introduce another element to the mix (H2O) and you are asking for trouble. Ever wonder why WOF is having so much problems with their Thunderhawk HUSS Topspin? Water. It was not designed for the beating the water elements gave the ride.
There has been talks about moving the round house. I don't know how serious they are / the time table it is on IF it does indeed get moved. I think the big chore right now is moving the BOH buildings to open up more land.
In the conventional sense, yes they do not have a "round" round house, but that is what they call their "round house" even though it is not "round"
You need to check out Kracke
Let me preface my comments by stating that I fall into the unique category of a 50/50 enthusiast. While I welcome and advocate the addition of major coasters, I also appreciate the park's continued attention to detail, and would also love to see those efforts put forth with improvements to some SDC staples (e.g., TNT, FITH, FM & AP).
It's already been touched on numerous times in various threads, but the unfortunate truth is SDC simply cannot remain profitable without engaging itself in the ongoing large, thrill-ride race. They are competing for tourism dollars against other major amusement parks that already have an edge based on demographics, brand awareness and geography (proximity to major metro areas).
I firmly believe SDC will always have the charm others in the industry cannot come close to matching, but if you want to see the park carry on, it's going to require the continued addition of new major attractions.
I think you also have to consider that while SDC owns a considerably larger parcel of land than the park's current footprint consumes, there isn't a terribly obvious and convenient place for major park expansion. SDC's major coasters already skirt it's western perimeter, so I think any fear of pulling into SDC's main lot 20 years from now and seeing nothing but towering hyper coasters framing the horizon is unwarranted and unrealistic in my view.
In short, a whole lot would need to happen, before that ever happens at SDC.
Swoosh, i think your right about that.... EXCEPT for the new bathrooms, when was the pizza joint mentioned? or the other mods made this winter..
The PTB did a great job this year, everything is themed 99.9% accurate, and really helped the park.
hopefully 14 will bring mods,upgrades needed around the park as we have discussed, then of course 2015 with the NEW thrillcoasterride and everything will accompany it..///(( Swoosh said it first) LOL!!
I think a lot of you are being very unfair to the park.
"old and reliable" screams B & M to me.
"Old and reliable" an S&S drop tower?
Drop Tower rides are rather faux passé anymore. For what it is worth.
Well, I guess there is no chance it will be a simulator attraction like a return of the diving bell? No, I didn't think so.
You know when the park was started 1860 was only about 100 years in the past, so it could have been in-theme at one point. Weird to think about.
As for 2015 developments in general, don't expect to hear many concrete details until next summer. As we've discussed before, big projects often tend to be delayed or have their development schedules moved around. It doesn't appear that the park is getting huge crowds this summer, even with OR having made national headlines all over the place. That factor alone could spell a delay so that the park can recoup more of it's capital expenditures on OR before starting the next project.
Might as well focus on what the park could bring out for 2014 for now, not to mention the likely major addition to WW.
I know a fellow coaster enthusiast that has talked to the park president, who confirmed to him that the ride will be built by Bolliger & Mabillard and will be the most expensive ride to date for the park.
I really think this is a wing coaster. Or, Bolliger & Mabillard has been working on a 4D coaster, which is a wing coaster that has spinning seats.
Also, an inverted coaster would be a nice addition to the park.
Am I the only one that wants a dark ride?
Yeah I would love a good family coaster. I think the next addition needs to be family-oriented.
They really do not do much for me, but I'm just one person.
Now the restraints on the new junior Vekoma inverts are awesome. Steel Lasso has these over at Frontier City.
What I am talking about is basically an elongated Rollerskate like what is at Legoland. It has a dark ride section before going outside and getting crazy
I know a fellow coaster enthusiast that has talked to the park president, who confirmed to him that the ride will be built by Bolliger & Mabillard and will be the most expensive ride to date for the park.
I really think this is a wing coaster. Or, Bolliger & Mabillard has been working on a 4D coaster, which is a wing coaster that has spinning seats.
Also, an inverted coaster would be a nice addition to the park.
Am I the only one that wants a dark ride?
Chittlins, what is why your school girl crush on Vekoma?
Hollywood, I don't want a kiddie coaster. I want a B&M, because I know it'll actually be running most of the time.
And yet they are everywhere and usually running when I'm there. It's not like it's S&S. The suspended coasters of theirs would be a family crowd pleaser although not much flash and a people eater. I'd love a Mack bobsled just the same or anyone's suspended coaster where most kids not have to decide on going upside down or not. I'd rather see a radical, free spin spinner that has indoor and outdoor elements. Tilt a Whirl on rails.
Chittlins, what is why your school girl crush on Vekoma?
Hollywood, I don't want a kiddie coaster. I want a B&M, because I know it'll actually be running most of the time.
And yet they are everywhere and usually running when I'm there. It's not like it's S&S. The suspended coasters of theirs would be a family crowd pleaser although not much flash and a people eater. I'd love a Mack bobsled just the same or anyone's suspended coaster where most kids not have to decide on going upside down or not. I'd rather see a radical, free spin spinner that has indoor and outdoor elements. Tilt a Whirl on rails.
^They're easier to market. Just saying
Vekoma makes Disney's coasters don't they? I know they are working on the new Seven Dwarves Mine Train.
I liked the idea that someone had a while back to do the ice-house theme using a spinner coaster (I don't know the proper terminology for it... whatever it is that Worlds of Fun has in the Asia area).
Vekoma makes OK coasters these days. It wouldn't fry my brain to see SDC get one, especially if it's a junior invert. The only thing that would bother me is if they made it cookie-cutter and just plopped it in somewhere.
I don't know exactly what I want to see SDC get right now, but I just hope it turns out to be unique and quality. I've still got good feelings about the management team and planning people though, they've stayed pretty true to the park foir the challenges they face.
The only thing that keeps coming to mind for me is a heavily themed indoor/outdoor intamin/mack/zierer family coaster with a drop track. Something like Verbolten or even better: Polar X-plorer (http://rcdb.com/10214.htm?p=37279). I just love the idea of having a coaster swoop in and out of a huge mineshaft/mountain/whatever.
I've committed blasphemy on this site by suggesting to remake FITH with a drop element at the burning bridge and launch into the finale in the dark alongside with new animatronics and special effects while keeping true to the story line.
As stated earlier, I'd really like for SDC to update what they have (FM, AP and FITH really could use some TLC). Put in a little extra effort and make these rides signature rides. But I also know it's hard to market that to people....so we probably will never see that happen.
As stated earlier, I'd really like for SDC to update what they have (FM, AP and FITH really could use some TLC). Put in a little extra effort and make these rides signature rides. But I also know it's hard to market that to people....so we probably will never see that happen.
We still have 2014 that needs something. I do know that PTB have been watching how well KBF's remake of the log flume has gone over with the public. Just saying.
As stated earlier, I'd really like for SDC to update what they have (FM, AP and FITH really could use some TLC). Put in a little extra effort and make these rides signature rides. But I also know it's hard to market that to people....so we probably will never see that happen.
We still have 2014 that needs something. I do know that PTB have been watching how well KBF's remake of the log flume has gone over with the public. Just saying.
White Water needs some major love.
Gerstlauer -- oh you mean the company that designed the trains for NTG and the Smiler that just happened to have its track buck a bolt and then two track segments seperated? Yeah, that sounds like a great idea.
Gerstlauer -- oh you mean the company that designed the trains for NTG and the Smiler that just happened to have its track buck a bolt and then two track segments seperated? Yeah, that sounds like a great idea.
Wow, it must be that time of the month. Someone could use some bandcamp.
From the looks of it the lady was way top heavy and had no arse and the attendant didn't make sure the bar wasn't against her theighs. It seems it's going to fall on six flags head. I'd ride it tommorrow and as someone who works with metal every single day, bolts break. I have to catch hairline fractures in turned cast iron parts for the oil fields all the time. Without using x ray, its impossible to catch them all. I've seen plenty of stainless snap out of the blue. It was likey a void or silica in the bar stock they used to turn the parts.
Well, its almost time for us to start spying survey markers and such around lakefront.
I find Swoosh's Gerstlauer trashing funny considering Firechaser Express at DW.
With all the work in the old Waterboggen area it looks like that might be where the 2015 project goes. I myself would love to see something like a 3D/4D attraction. Along the lines of Toy Story mania at Disney or Spider man at Universal. This way it could be a indoor attraction and the designers would not have to worry about guests seeing the backstage area's. So, What would be a good themed attraction like this to go in this space, and does HFE have the experience and cash to build something of this magnitude?
Cant help but wonder the "All American" theme this year is a kick off for a big "fireworks" doings next year...
2016 would be 240 years,,,,, so maybe the fireworks concept is not so far out of reach?
Posters on Negative-G have posted some new photos of the clearing: http://www.negative-g.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4964
Looks like it's shaping up to be quite a project with them starting this early and clearing so much space.
Posters on Negative-G have posted some new photos of the clearing: http://www.negative-g.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4964
Looks like it's shaping up to be quite a project with them starting this early and clearing so much space.
1. There has been talk about moving the round house. Idk if they're still considering that or not.
2. Visible through summer.
The shot tower is almost a definite, considering they had it in every single concept pitch. What surprised me is that there was no mention of the supersplash. It was rumored that they were looking at the possibility of adding it to this area some years ago, so I wonder if that's still on the drawing boards somewhere.
Until I see something substantial that tells us otherwise though, I'm going to assume that this clearing is for the shot tower and a few Zamperla rides. The theme is really what's going to be interesting here, and we probably won't be able to figure that out for sure until they finally make the announcement.
One of the posters on the negative-g forum claims an employee said GG will be torn down in August.
Sounds like the Grand Expo 2. " lakeside"
One of the posters on the negative-g forum claims an employee said GG will be torn down in August.
Swoosh gave you this that seems to back that up considering most of the pics are coming from GG:
2. Visible through summer
Seems like a waste to me to tear down GG. I've been assuming that something major will happen to it, but I wouldn't expect it to just be torn all the way down. It seems like such a major and somewhat unique attraction, I'd hate to see it make way for just a bunch of cookie cutter Zamperla rides.
I just went back to take a look at the concept pitches, and each one of them mentions an interactive climb/play structure. Sounds and looks like they are just going to gut GG and rebuild it. The Fire Station pitch actually directly mentions that they would just put a new facade on GG.
One of the posters on the negative-g forum claims an employee said GG will be torn down in August.
Swoosh gave you this that seems to back that up considering most of the pics are coming from GG:
2. Visible through summer
Swoosh gave me what? I followed the link to negative-g and read the posts. If at some point Swoosh said GG was getting torn down in August I missed that. Not sure what you mean here.
FTR: I never said that GG was being torn down in August.
^^^
I'm thinking everything we know about the 2015 concept is about to change. That could be a good thing.
^^^
I'm thinking everything we know about the 2015 concept is about to change. That could be a good thing.
I sure hope so. The things I here are just not that exciting to me. IE, shot tower , off the shelf flat rides just do not have much appeal. Hope we really get something that is a game changer.
^^^
I'm thinking everything we know about the 2015 concept is about to change. That could be a good thing.
I sure hope so. The things I here are just not that exciting to me. IE, shot tower , off the shelf flat rides just do not have much appeal. Hope we really get something that is a game changer.
The shot tower is a theme park staple and is needed. There's a couple of flats that if themed would add to the park. Like Swoosh has said in the past, they're are people eaters and shorten lines the main attractions. Like at it this way, if dad and teen Jr are in line for outlaw run and it's an hour wait and mom and the 8yr old aren't into it, why not have a kiddie ride or two real close so that the mom and the little one can stay close by without separating. Outlaw Run is the perfect example with the rather extreme giant swing. If two out of four want to ride those two on a busier day that will take at least an 11/2hrs yet all there is for the other two in the immediate area is high/low silo and a couple of things that take just a couple of minutes to tire of. (Hand crank frog race, milk the fake cow. The original concept art called a mini swing along with Hi/low but that became part of Half Dollar Holler. Maybe this time they are getting it set for the big thrill. I just wish that had the disco with a hill out when GE got its version. I have seen that themed very well. It's up to SDC to pay to theme a flat, it can be done.
^^^
I'm thinking everything we know about the 2015 concept is about to change. That could be a good thing."
I sure hope so. The things I here are just not that exciting to me. IE, shot tower , off the shelf flat rides just do not have much appeal. Hope we really get something that is a game changer.
The shot tower is a theme park staple and is needed. There's a couple of flats that if themed would add to the park. Like Swoosh has said in the past, they're are people eaters and shorten lines the main attractions. Like at it this way, if dad and teen Jr are in line for outlaw run and it's an hour wait and mom and the 8yr old aren't into it, why not have a kiddie ride or two real close so that the mom and the little one can stay close by without separating. Outlaw Run is the perfect example with the rather extreme giant swing. If two out of four want to ride those two on a busier day that will take at least an 11/2hrs yet all there is for the other two in the immediate area is high/low silo and a couple of things that take just a couple of minutes to tire of. (Hand crank frog race, milk the fake cow. The original concept art called a mini swing along with Hi/low but that became part of Half Dollar Holler. Maybe this time they are getting it set for the big thrill. I just wish that had the disco with a hill out when GE got its version. I have seen that themed very well. It's up to SDC to pay to theme a flat, it can be done.
Well for me it is a waste of resources. It might work and be needed, but if I want to go to a traveling carnival I will just stay close to home.
FTR: I never said that GG was being torn down in August.
Never said you did, just that work would be visible through August. Since most of the pics are coming from the GG area, one could assume you mean GG being closed.
If the "visable through summer" comment doesn't imply to GG maybe you could be more clear in thought.
No. The Grand Expo was designed to have ONE entrance and ONE exit as a way to safely allow younger guests to explore the area. This was one of the key components that was stressed in the original press release.I get what your saying, but I know thoughts change over time and it's been nearly a decade since GE opened up. Maybe a new loop could be created with a new track crossing and crosses over to the new project area. Even with them taking out that backstage area and parking lot, they'll still need an entrance area for the parade and such. I can see that still being there at the back of the GE. I know my city has or still are installing several trail tunnels under roads and I can see SDC doing that under 76 to the lots across the highway for employee parking/physical plant.
So, do you ever see Roaring Falls from Celebration City coming over to SDC?
So, do you ever see Roaring Falls from Celebration City coming over to SDC?
I would hope not. I would rather see an entirely new flume (think splash mountain) or a complete rebuild of AP before another kiddie ride.
Move it to White Water...several water parks have that kind of ride as part of their ride selections.
Jay
I think the chute the chute rides originated at places like Coney Island way back in the 1910's or 1920's when there was no air conditioning. It was a pretty big thrill to get out of the concrete jungle down to the beach and get wet on a chute the chute ride. Fun way of staying cool in the hot summer time.
PHOTOS FROM THIS WEEKEND OF PROJECT 2015
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Thanks for the report, Swoosh. I do pine for the days when construction was done completely in winter months and the public never saw it. However, impossible to do today with the expanded season.
As far as a "clear cut" ... how does that song go? "We've only just begun...."
but the back midway along the ElectroSpin is very well grown in.This ride was built in and along the tree line. I think you might refer to old trip report photos to refresh yourself. This was not because of tree growth. This was however done the correct way.
Well,to be fair, they never really came out and said how large the project was going to be in the concept art/surveys -- with that being said, I was surprised to learn just how big it was going to be. That area is really going to look different when it is all said and done.
The game is a distraction to the shows in the nearby theater
9. Aliens are real
10. Santa Claus is not real
Swoosh, since you know the most about the new area.....but really can't tell, could you help us shuffle through the internet rumors? Maybe with a hot or cold kind of response....or maybe a "you got ?? of the 8 correct".
These are the things I've been hearing from Citizens and around the net:
1. Geyser Gulch will close in August and will be raised for a complete new play structure.
2. The train tracks will be rerouted.
3. This will be a complete new area, not just one ride.
4. A B&M wing rider is coming to the park.
5. The employee parking lot will also be utilized for the area.
6. GG will not be removed, it will just be renovated to be used for new area.
7. A new dark ride will be part of the experience.
8. The shot tower from CC will be utilized in new area.
Are there any other rumors floating around that are not included in this list?
Jay
9. Aliens are real
10. Santa Claus is not real
I'm not one to jump to conclusions, but I think we can
safely assume that whatever appears here will be a blast.
We asked about the theme. He said that he has not heard a definite on that yet.
We asked about the theme. He said that he has not heard a definite on that yet.
Five rides?
The shot tower has gotten more attention than a new coaster on this board. At 16 riders per whack this is not going to service a whole lot of guests per day. I predict this to be a very anti-climactic addition to the park. Lets hope there is something more exciting besides this and the balloons.
The shot tower has gotten more attention than a new coaster on this board. At 16 riders per whack this is not going to service a whole lot of guests per day. I predict this to be a very anti-climactic addition to the park. Lets hope there is something more exciting besides this and the balloons.
When we were there last time I saw it and wondered if anyone ever ride it. My 2 year old would love it but she won't be tall enough until next year to ride it. It would be better utilized if it was in the expo toddler area and if they were able to lower the height requirement a bit. I also noticed that hdh wasn't really busy when we were there but every place else was packed.
Uh oh. That doesn't sound good.
Uh oh. That doesn't sound good.
If I ran a popular(?) Disneyfreak website I would put it under a "declining by degrees" heading. I am just not a fan of making SDC feel more like an "amusement park" and this would definitely do it. You think the carny game was bad over by GG? That would be NOTHING if the rumor is true.
What is that reason?
Another thing I noticed is in the 4 times we have been this year I have never once seen the new game by GG open.
The lack of "World Fest"-ive decorations is due to the park-wide theme for this year. Believe me, World Fest isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Sorry, but let's squish that rumor right now.
*chop chop*
So if the park goes with the Dugan theme, as a promotional device, how many are in favor of a Junior Dugan reunion, say for 2015 media day, to promote the new area...and yes, I am shamelessly planting this in a vain attempt to put this in the minds of the PTB. I'd love to see some of the old crew together for a reunion! Fun times, ya had to be there...oh yeah, some of you were!
Sounds like the game by GG will be moved to GE this coming week. The giant GE map has been removed to make room for it.
My eyes could have been playing tricks on me, but there appears to be several rides backstage getting worked on. You can see them in certain lift hills. Just keep your eyes open
Yes, but that doesn't mean that they will plant the trees here or even in the park.
Now it looks like they are clear-cutting and adding a few trees back in as landscaping. That is a huge difference for the feel and layout of the park
QuoteNow it looks like they are clear-cutting and adding a few trees back in as landscaping. That is a huge difference for the feel and layout of the park
This procedure is what robs the authenticity in the very base of the theme.
Marking trees and working around them to retain was the "hard" way to do the job. The end results however were without argument, warm and inviting. Now they are clear cutting and inserting non forest native trees. It shows.
Juxtapose / compare walking in nicely planned yard or gardens and walking in the woods. Both are lovely but one feels much more adventurous and consuming. Gardens come and go with the seasons but the woods stay wild and mysterious. This creates a natural theme, I insist its the very basis of the theme that made us all fans of the park.
Although I keep hearing the GE mentioned I have yet to here anything other than the job they did is growing in well. I don't hear much "connection" to this area. Its great for the kids but there is little character. Theme and character have little to do with each other.
Possibly you have heard the story about Miss Mary and workers fired because of a cut tree. She did not deem this necessary, the end result was a peace treaty lasagna dinner that she herself supplied to smooth things over and get those boys back to work. This reaffirms and supports the fact that the founders of the park knew the importance of the trees and wooded feel that their soon to blossom park naturally contained.
One more thought, If it were possible how many of you would like trees inserted to block the view of the row of resorts down from Wildfire? Does this disturbance of the natural view set the theme on its side a little? It does for me.
I am not a tree hugger, but I am in awe of their natural beauty and hate to see them removed.
QuoteNow it looks like they are clear-cutting and adding a few trees back in as landscaping. That is a huge difference for the feel and layout of the park
This procedure is what robs the authenticity in the very base of the theme.
Marking trees and working around them to retain was the "hard" way to do the job. The end results however were without argument, warm and inviting. Now they are clear cutting and inserting non forest native trees. It shows.
Juxtapose / compare walking in nicely planned yard or gardens and walking in the woods. Both are lovely but one feels much more adventurous and consuming. Gardens come and go with the seasons but the woods stay wild and mysterious. This creates a natural theme, I insist its the very basis of the theme that made us all fans of the park.
Although I keep hearing the GE mentioned I have yet to here anything other than the job they did is growing in well. I don't hear much "connection" to this area. Its great for the kids but there is little character. Theme and character have little to do with each other.
Possibly you have heard the story about Miss Mary and workers fired because of a cut tree. She did not deem this necessary, the end result was a peace treaty lasagna dinner that she herself supplied to smooth things over and get those boys back to work. This reaffirms and supports the fact that the founders of the park knew the importance of the trees and wooded feel that their soon to blossom park naturally contained.
One more thought, If it were possible how many of you would like trees inserted to block the view of the row of resorts down from Wildfire? Does this disturbance of the natural view set the theme on its side a little? It does for me.
I am not a tree hugger, but I am in awe of their natural beauty and hate to see them removed.
I agree with you on every level. Hubs and I were just talking about this last week after our very short visit to the park. If the integrity, feel, and culture of the park continues to gradually change, when do we quit attending? I hope it doesn't get to the point that we no longer want to attend in order to remember the "feel" of it before the recent changes of the last few years. And, I don't mean additional rides, such as Outlaw Run, but the overall look and feel of the park. I want to walk in feeling immersed in an 1880's mining town - not an amusement park! We could go to several parks close to home if we wanted, but we don't! We have little interest in visiting any other amusement park. But, this one is special....when the special is no longer there, we won't be there. It's not just my generation that feels this way. My twenty something and thirty something kids feel the same way and commented on it after our last visit to the park together just a couple of years ago.
BTW: Mods let's split this current strand of discussion into a new post as it has nothing to do (really) with 2015 construction
Other than the retreads, Zamperla flats?
Still theming the area or are they just going to stick in random rides? This doesn't seem to go along very well with the concepts that were floated.
I would love to have an Air Race at the park. I think it would almost need a Steam Punk theme for it to "work" but it would be awesome. They could also utilize a raised ride platform to save space (as in put the queue underneath).
We'll just have to wait and see.
Oh and Hollywood, that's as good a guess as I have heard. Would make sense to honor another public service branch and even if that is not the theme of the area, could see them adding another monument over by FITH for them.
I would love to have an Air Race at the park. I think it would almost need a Steam Punk theme for it to "work" but it would be awesome.
I an curious if they are removing GG where will the playground be? SDC has always had a playground area for the kids to burn off steam. Do the kids of today not want an area like GG? I seem to notice there are always plenty of kids in the area taking advantage of the activities. Half Dollar does not compare as it is geared to little ones. Any ideas?
I've checking out some of the new Whitewater West play structures with ropes and even integrated zip line, interesting stuff.These folks may have been the Adventure Mountain builders at Dollywood, looks similar.
QuoteI've checking out some of the new Whitewater West play structures with ropes and even integrated zip line, interesting stuff.These folks may have been the Adventure Mountain builders at Dollywood, looks similar.
It may be a thought, even for the existing tower.
Toy store got a new roof -- not sure how that is not keeping it up.
I would hate to see the wisteria canopy disappear but progress marches on.
I miss the days when the only talk of a "shot tower", was the wooden tower on Main Street where molten lead was dropped into water to form shot for a shotgun.
The return of the ballons?
Zamperla Crazy Bus transformed into a classic fire truck?
How big are these foundations?
One is a catapult launch site; the larger one is for the catch net.
Getting the swings out of there would make sense if people didn't use them. The swings are a problem, though, just like the Ladybugs - they are rides for preschoolers that can't be ridden with their parents - not exactly family friendly.
A ball pit or splash pad in the Li'l Swings area would make sense.
Hint 3: Who owns the name?
Hints? LOL. This coming from the guy who runs "Where in the City?"
Moreover from the fact that some people don't like to have the surprise spoiled from them, I'm not a huge fan of spoiling announcements for the park either. Now, obviously I like to engage in a lot of pointed speculation and we often pretty much figure things out before the announcements, but there's a fine line between solving the puzzle and just exploiting misplaced files or legal filings. I still feel bad about the fact that the Outlaw Run announcement was leaked early on this site. I know it ticked off the park and made us look really bad.
I will clarify in our "rules" later tonight about what not to post in these situations. I'm on the fence about a lot of it myself.
Moreover from the fact that some people don't like to have the surprise spoiled from them, I'm not a huge fan of spoiling announcements for the park either. Now, obviously I like to engage in a lot of pointed speculation and we often pretty much figure things out before the announcements, but there's a fine line between solving the puzzle and just exploiting misplaced files or legal filings. I still feel bad about the fact that the Outlaw Run announcement was leaked early on this site. I know it ticked off the park and made us look really bad.
I will clarify in our "rules" later tonight about what not to post in these situations. I'm on the fence about a lot of it myself.
when it came to those images, they had no one to blame but themselves.
:-X
Hint 3: Who owns the name?
Herschend Family Entertainment Corporation CORPORATION MISSOURI 399 Indian Point Road Branson MISSOURI 65616
:-X
Hint 3: Who owns the name?
Herschend Family Entertainment Corporation CORPORATION MISSOURI 399 Indian Point Road Branson MISSOURI 65616
Actually in this case it is: Silver Dollar City, LLC LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY MISSOURI Suite 200 5445 Triangle Parkway Norcross GEORGIA 30092
I don't think the current structure will be completely dismantled though. It should only get a facelift. It will be nice to have a new, more appropriate, color scheme. Many of the current features will be simple to retool into a new theme, as well.
I don't think the current structure will be completely dismantled though. It should only get a facelift. It will be nice to have a new, more appropriate, color scheme. Many of the current features will be simple to retool into a new theme, as well.
I would hope they wouldn't try to remove too much of the current structure. I attended the park before the days of GG, as much as I miss the days before GG, the Town Hall structure has become an iconic building for the park IMO.
At least we don't have to worry about any airplanes in the park.
Now that the story has been broken by others, I think we can go ahead and discuss it. No reason to pretend it's not already out there for another month. I've thought it over some more, and I decided that it's OK to talk about trademark filings as long as it doesn't disrupt an on-going or planned teaser campaign or publicity effort. Really I just want to avoid the Outlaw Run situation in the future, but that's a discussion for later.
The Fireman's theme has apparently been selected with the area more than likely being dubbed "Fireman's Landing". Still comes down to implementation, and I've heard both encouraging and discouraging things about the rumored plans. The only thing that sticks in my mind with this theme is the question of whether it was chosen in order to continue HFEC's recent trend of building monuments and pandering to various services. One one hand, it's pretty cool for them as a large public space to acknowledge the services, but on the other hand it comes off as pandering at some point. We'll see how it turns out.
At least we don't have to worry about any airplanes in the park. ::)
This sounds like it is a lazy, unimaginative addition to the park. Use recycled rides, fail to keep it in 1880's theme, etc. I don't think we're going to be very impressed. I hope I'm wrong but I won't hold my breath.
It's sad this is where SDC is going.
Whoa there, let's try not to get ahead of ourselves here. Nothing has been announced yet. We know nothing for certain about this development other than the fact that a trademark has been file and there are pieces of an old double shot on site. Most of what SDC has done in the past decade has turned out pretty great, even if there are tiny aspects here and there that diverge from the old ways. They still display a tremendous amount of imagination and effort. We don't need to dog the park before we even know what they're doing.
If they do indeed put something in the new area that actually puts a damper on the SDC experience, it will be worth pointing out, but we have to avoid nitpicking.
Whoa there, let's try not to get ahead of ourselves here. Nothing has been announced yet. We know nothing for certain about this development other than the fact that a trademark has been file and there are pieces of an old double shot on site. Most of what SDC has done in the past decade has turned out pretty great, even if there are tiny aspects here and there that diverge from the old ways. They still display a tremendous amount of imagination and effort. We don't need to dog the park before we even know what they're doing.
If they do indeed put something in the new area that actually puts a damper on the SDC experience, it will be worth pointing out, but we have to avoid nitpicking.
I think the fear here is that Silver Dollar City will undergo a Dollywoodization without the name change. That’s basically losing the period theming while keeping SDC name all in an attempt to.recreate the success of Dollywood while not allowing SDC to grow on it's own merits.
Also be taking as many photos of the GG buildings and stuff as you can -- it sounds like it is ALL coming down. AND with that in mind, throw that concept art out that you have posted, it won't look anything like that other than theme.
I only wish we could see what they were going to do before buying a seasons pass.
First, thank you for keeping us in focus. I think we should still assume good will on SDC's part. So far, they've done a really good job. :D
Honestly, I think we could still see a mashup of a few of these ideas that were tested or maybe even something totally different. Fireman could be one part of a larger idea. Personally, if they do go with a big Fireman theme, I hope to see something more complex than just SDC Fire Station #2 with a big red GG. Maybe the fireworks factory is on fire and the SDC fire crew came to save the day?
By the way: I really like idea of "Fireman's Gulch"!
Except for the fact that it has NOTHING to do with the 1880s theme.
If anything, people who call "foul" all the time on the park "breaking the theme" should be dancing around with joy
Except for the fact that it has NOTHING to do with the 1880s theme.
If anything, people who call "foul" all the time on the park "breaking the theme" should be dancing around with joy
I'm sorry I don't quite understand what you're saying here.
The facade to Geyser Gulch has nothing to do with the 1880s. Especially the garish color pallet. We constantly hear on here about "declining by degrees" of the theme at SDC. Why aren't those who carry the banner for that thought cheering that something that breaks the theme is going away?
Women (for the most part) were not Firefighters in the 1880s. Nor was that term used.
Maybe we can be rid of these strange little eggs in and on the banks of the lake.
I've not yet discovered the creature that lays these garish treasures.
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Maybe we can be rid of these strange little eggs in and on the banks of the lake.
I've not yet discovered the creature that lays these garish treasures.
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From the species with the Latin name Badaimitrons. They do not reproduce unless they are fertilized with a touch from a wax hand.
Me too!This sounds like it is a lazy, unimaginative addition to the park. Use recycled rides, fail to keep it in 1880's theme, etc. I don't think we're going to be very impressed. I hope I'm wrong but I won't hold my breath.
It's sad this is where SDC is going.
Agre, And also agree with Shave about all the pandering to special groups. I wish they had taken all this money and refurbished a few of the older attractions and saved the space for something major in the future.
Maybe we can be rid of these strange little eggs in and on the banks of the lake.
I've not yet discovered the creature that lays these garish treasures.
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From the species with the Latin name Badaimitrons. They do not reproduce unless they are fertilized with a touch from a wax hand.
Wow. This is new information to me...and it makes me wary of getting one of those wax hands!
I wonder if the Badaimitrons are endangered and nearing extinction due to the municipal encroachment that threatens the elimination of their garish habitat.
I know all this is probably old news, especially to Swoosh
I know all this is probably old news, especially to Swoosh
;D :-* lol
In other news -- can someone get out to the park soon? I hear that there are markings of some sort in the construction area that may or may not be the lines of the buildings in the area. I am tied down with Band Camp the rest of the month so cannot go do it myself.
Thanks
Great shots, cowboy. Now, what exactly are we looking at?
My guess on that foundation. It looks exactly like the old kiddie swing foundation in a new location so I am guessing the Kiddie Swing ride will be going there.
I hope so! How is it to be themed? As a fire pole?
SDC is getting a lot of backlash on their facebook page about the removal of GG. Many upset moms & dads...and oh those grandparents!
^I'm sure that's played a role in a few decisions. Splash Harbor was practically a water park, and it really contributed to a lot of people wearing overt swim wear all over the park all day long. I don't expect to see the splash pads return, but hope they keep the outward facing water cannons. Don't think they seem intent on keeping the old greedy bro's tower though...
The announcement will be designed to curtail parent's concerns about GG. SDC understands at least the basic needs of their target audience here.
Does anyone think SDC is tired of policing the swimsuit policy. Several get into that area and want to strip to their swimsuits and then walk around the park, which is against park policy. It got too hard to keep that from happening, so they allowed it for youngsters, but it's awkward to have kids changing clothes in the restrooms. I think the new area will be planned better. Really a splash pad is better reserved for places that are closer to home, where you have access to more privacy nearby.
I'm pretty sure some of the same elements will be revamped and included. The concept art that we were shown had the balls still in there (a bucket brigade thing), and I really think fire hoses will easily be a part of the area (which probably means they will just repaint the "island" in the lake - ugh). That just seems likely on all levels. The people on facebook likely do not have any idea of what is happening.
That's easy: they don't have the same standards as Silver Dollar City.
That's easy: they don't have the same standards as Silver Dollar City.
It's kinda funny coming from owners of water parks as well.
What if this is their favorite attraction at SDC? Even if they replace it with something else that is great, this particular attraction IS NOT coming back, ever. Maybe this is their first memory of the park? Maybe this is the place they always look forward to going to?
Sometimes little panics get humorous...... BUT not in this case... people of all ages are way overreacting.....
We don't say they are "way overreacting".
what are the teens, early 20's, maybe 30's supposed to do.......?? Few of them enjoy the craftsmen... too young to enjoy just walk and enjoy the scenery, the asphalt smell ( ;)) and the peace and quiet....
""[ they may be slowly drifting away from having features for their oldest guests though.""""
AND that History Buff is my concern.......
I am NOT seriously complaining here now,,, just making a "observation".....
Except for coasters...(which I don't ride)... what are the teens, early 20's, maybe 30's supposed to do.......?? Few of them enjoy the craftsmen... too young to enjoy just walk and enjoy the scenery, the asphalt smell ( ;)) and the peace and quiet....
There are/will be 3 large areas now for youngsters to play... HDH, GE, GG?
I am hoping the new "GG", is maybe pointed toward both young kids, and the teenager/20's group...
Either way wont effect me, BUT we need to keep the city alive and well.... :)
1. It really annoys me how some people post comments on facebook posts like that. It's like they don't use their brains at all. The most ANNOYING that I've read this year is when KCTV5 blew a story so out of proportion about WoF's SteelHawk eStopping 20ft in the air and "stranding" its riders. Oh my gosh the comments on there was just beyond ludicrous.
2. SDC is not abandoning the younger kids - if anything they almost cater to them solely. It is rather annoying (to me) that so many of the additions lately have been things that I have no desire to mess with because I am not the target age group (they're not the only ones. SFStL and WOF have been doing it too).
3. Fireman's Landing is not going to be catered to teens. It will have one thrill ride. The S&S tower. The rest of the area will be catered to families with younger kids. Sorry if you were hoping for more, but it's not going to be WOOHOO for anyone without a younger child. Yes it will look nice and be an improvement over what is there now, but let's call a spade a spade.
4. Regarding what each age group has to do at the park
PreK - HDH/GE
K-5 - GE/FL
6-20's - Coasters/S&S tower/GE"bigrides"/TGS/waterrides/coasters
30/40 - same as 6-20's + shows and exhibits
40+ - Some rides/shows and exhibits / scenery
5. The petting zoo that was to go by TGS was cut because they didn't want to move it from the Homestead and remove an "attraction" from that area. The swing got axed due to space limitations and other "atmosphere" additions.
6. GE is more than a county fair. While some people do not like it, it did what it was supposed to do - add ride capacity to the park. I personally feel they did a nice job implementing it. Could they have done more, of course but what they did do is pretty darn good. I love how the trees have grown in there.
Regarding 2015... should we do the big one or the little one first?
Swoosh, now that you know the ride list for the area....are you more excited for the announcement, or has your concern for the new area grown?
it is a "non" festival weekend. I expect a light crowd on sunday :)
Are you talking about X2 or Green Lantern. This will be more like Green Lantern BUT with a gentler layout. ZacSpins can be rather violent
I do not think it would be my cup of tea. Maybe one time, but not something I would line up for over and over again. Give me a true classic wooden coaster that is just flat out fast.
I do not think it would be my cup of tea. Maybe one time, but not something I would line up for over and over again. Give me a true classic wooden coaster that is just flat out fast.
Does it have to invert? All we need is a kick tail junior woodie like Wooden Warrior that folks rave about or a custom family suspended.
I definitely don't think we'll see another wooden roller coaster at SDC for awhile since they just got Outlaw Run.
Seriously guys? Let's be honest - your next coaster is either going to be a Firechaser Express semi-clone or a wingcoaster (Wild Eagle). It really isn't up for discussion, those are the two options.
I definitely don't think we'll see another wooden roller coaster at SDC for awhile since they just got Outlaw Run.
Well, If you consider Outlaw run a true wooden coaster. Some will say it is a hybrid.
Question: how many varieties of coasters can they build? Pretty soon they will have to remove some older attractions to build new coasters, won't they?
Seriously guys? Let's be honest - your next coaster is either going to be a Firechaser Express semi-clone or a wingcoaster (Wild Eagle). It really isn't up for discussion, those are the two options.
Swoosh, clearly you have insinuated that you are already well aware of what type of coaster will round out the updated GG area in 2015. For those of us who have not yet been to the park this year, it is very hard to judge the scope of the actual footprint within the area being renovated. Is there even enough room to accommodate a winged coaster in the area? As much as I would love to see that type of ride anchor that area, it seems like the entire area is already taking on a more GE.2 vibe. That leads me to believe they would opt for a more TNTish family tailored coaster. But that's just my hunch.
Question: how many varieties of coasters can they build? Pretty soon they will have to remove some older attractions to build new coasters, won't they?
Pretty soon they will have to remove some older attractions to build new coasters, won't they?
Swoosh, clearly you have insinuated that you are already well aware of what type of coaster will round out the updated GG area in 2015. For those of us who have not yet been to the park this year, it is very hard to judge the scope of the actual footprint within the area being renovated. Is there even enough room to accommodate a winged coaster in the area? As much as I would love to see that type of ride anchor that area, it seems like the entire area is already taking on a more GE.2 vibe. That leads me to believe they would opt for a more TNTish family tailored coaster. But that's just my hunch.
I definitely don't think we'll see another wooden roller coaster at SDC for awhile since they just got Outlaw Run.
Well, If you consider Outlaw run a true wooden coaster. Some will say it is a hybrid.
Pretty soon they will have to remove some older attractions to build new coasters, won't they?
Trust me when I say, SDC is not hurting for expansion pads.Swoosh, clearly you have insinuated that you are already well aware of what type of coaster will round out the updated GG area in 2015. For those of us who have not yet been to the park this year, it is very hard to judge the scope of the actual footprint within the area being renovated. Is there even enough room to accommodate a winged coaster in the area? As much as I would love to see that type of ride anchor that area, it seems like the entire area is already taking on a more GE.2 vibe. That leads me to believe they would opt for a more TNTish family tailored coaster. But that's just my hunch.
There's plenty of room. You have the area where the WB tower is, the back part of FL and then the employee parking lot across the tracks. I'm not saying that is where the next coaster go - there is another area that has been fairly recently fenced off over between WF and PK as well. I'm not saying that know which coaster is coming next or even which expansion pad or that both have been mentioned.
Pretty soon they will have to remove some older attractions to build new coasters, won't they?
Trust me when I say, SDC is not hurting for expansion pads.Swoosh, clearly you have insinuated that you are already well aware of what type of coaster will round out the updated GG area in 2015. For those of us who have not yet been to the park this year, it is very hard to judge the scope of the actual footprint within the area being renovated. Is there even enough room to accommodate a winged coaster in the area? As much as I would love to see that type of ride anchor that area, it seems like the entire area is already taking on a more GE.2 vibe. That leads me to believe they would opt for a more TNTish family tailored coaster. But that's just my hunch.
There's plenty of room. You have the area where the WB tower is, the back part of FL and then the employee parking lot across the tracks. I'm not saying that is where the next coaster go - there is another area that has been fairly recently fenced off over between WF and PK as well. I'm not saying that know which coaster is coming next or even which expansion pad or that both have been mentioned.
But are you saying that a new coaster IS coming for 2015?
Remember this post by Grapeslie from the 2013 Construction thread?
"Just got home from day two of the ACE SDC Event going on right now. First of all Outlaw Run is amazing beyond expectation! Also I spoke with Pete Herschend (yes he showed up it was cool) and he told me that us coaster enthusiasts should keep our eyes open for 2015 because they are gonna make us happy again! SDC Bring it on!"
Sounds like some kind of coaster for next year unless the project has been delayed. Just saying...
I know for a fact that a lot of different attractions have been heavily considered and rumored about over the past few years, but never came to fruition for one reason or another. It's hard to predict what a business is actually going to do at the end of the day.
It's hard to predict what a business is actually going to do at the end of the day.
You'll have to wait until the 13th to find out. ;)
The S&S double shot will be worth riding on any given trip, provided that the lines are not crazy. I'm actually interested to see how they manage that one... it's going to be a pretty popular ride, but capacity isn't great with one tower.
The S&S double shot will be worth riding on any given trip, provided that the lines are not crazy. I'm actually interested to see how they manage that one... it's going to be a pretty popular ride, but capacity isn't great with one tower.
So, it only seems logical (and appropriate) that a future coaster would anchor this overhauled area.
This sounds more like Six Flags thinking than SDC thinking. Just because there's a new/revitalized area of the park doesn't mean a coaster is need to "anchor" it.
So, it only seems logical (and appropriate) that a future coaster would anchor this overhauled area.
That said though, I expect a coaster in or near this area within three years. I think it's either going to be something from B&M (more than likely a launched wing coaster), or a family launched coaster similar to Firechaser.
There will only be one S&S tower here, but you are thinking along the right lines.
The tower is now brown by the way. All I can think of when I see it is "if it's brown, it must go down". Dear Lord I need help. lol
There will only be one S&S tower here, but you are thinking along the right lines.
The tower is now brown by the way. All I can think of when I see it is "if it's brown, it must go down". Dear Lord I need help. lol
There will only be one S&S tower here, but you are thinking along the right lines.
The tower is now brown by the way. All I can think of when I see it is "if it's brown, it must go down". Dear Lord I need help. lol
Do you mean here as in the park or in the new area? Will they have the smaller tower in the new area and a bigger one somewhere else in the park?
I think you guys may be taking things too literally here. Clearly, the shot tower and the L'il Swings will be here, but outside of that we can only speculate. The Bucket Brigade in the concept art suggest a probably high chance of definitely having a "ball pit" type attraction in the area, too. Outside of that, I think the big/little discussion means that this is the little addition, and the big addition will come later in the form of a coaster.
And if you are just joining us, other than there being a firefighter theme, don't you think they will leave the Bald Knobbers to FitH? I would love it if there would be some wanted posters or something around the FL area, but I wouldn't hold out any hopes for that.
It's already been answered.
Shave, at this point are you ok with sharing of the deets of FL on this site since it is close to the announcement?
I've been having trouble coming up with a clear policy on this, but we frown on digging up exactly what the park is doing when they are setting up an announcement such as this one (which I guess is now the norm anyway). Posting "rumors" is OK, but it's always hard to draw the line. We want to be in the know while at the same time protecting the park's ability to create impactful announcements and publicity campaigns.
^That's doubtful. Models cost a lot of money, and with computer engineering and graphics, models are no longer necessary to get the images to the public. I'm not saying they never use them, but that with the cost and time involved, it doesn't happen often anymore. I did love to look at those old models though.
Regarding 2015.... What's a fire without some water?
Regarding 2015.... What's a fire without some water?
Could this be a hint of the Roaring Falls ride from Celebration City?
I say we wait for the park
I didn't get an email, and it's 11:47. What's the news?
Have no doubt they will do this up well on the theming front. And it will be a nice addition to SDC for families with younger ones. A bit of an underwhelming yawner on the ride front, but that's what you get with this type of area. Guess it leaves me wondering why in the world they invested in HDH when FL will greatly overshadow it with similar experiences.
I'm not disappointed at all. I wasn't really wowed either. That said, really tough to call until it's there to experience and judge in the flesh.
Have no doubt they will do this up well on the theming front. And it will be a nice addition to SDC for families with younger ones. A bit of an underwhelming yawner on the ride front, but that's what you get with this type of area. Guess it leaves me wondering why in the world they invested in HDH when FL will greatly overshadow it with similar experiences.
I'm not disappointed at all. I wasn't really wowed either. That said, really tough to call until it's there to experience and judge in the flesh.
The water cannons will be missed, but I'm very pleased with the look of the area. They've done a much better job of blending the rides into the area and producing a well thought-out atmosphere and experience for the whole area.
They are actually demolishing every piece of GG for this, and pushing the area back rather than building behind the old GG structure like I was assuming.
While nothing from CC is in the addition, I see at least two existing rides.
I have been reading on this forum for a long time, and just registered to add my thoughts.
I like the new concept, but why did GG have to go away for this to happen? Modern amusement park design is starting to go the way of the city park.
Now, instead of my son expressing his freedom to run around and play, he will be shoehorned into a smaller space, or have to wait in line for a ride that is a lot like the rides everywhere else.
While nothing from CC is in the addition, I see at least two existing rides.
I have been reading on this forum for a long time, and just registered to add my thoughts.
I like the new concept, but why did GG have to go away for this to happen? Modern amusement park design is starting to go the way of the city park.
Now, instead of my son expressing his freedom to run around and play, he will be shoehorned into a smaller space, or have to wait in line for a ride that is a lot like the rides everywhere else.
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Just have the repeated concern.... another? kids area?. Or am I looking at this wrong.... is the balloon ride, the "bumpy" wagon and the "firefall" all considered adult rides? Therfore making the area a "family" area.
The Baloons arent the existing ones from Tom Sawyers Landing?It's my understanding from earlier in this topic that yes, the balloons are a re-painted Balloon Chase formerly at Tom Sawyers'. And the swings were indeed taken from HDH earlier this season. And the shot tower is repaint job on the one from CC.
I call the Swings from HH existing as they have been at SDC for a while.
I wonder if the "interactive" areas will result the same as Wilsons Farm, and being more inactive.
Also, am pretty stoked about the Harlem Globetrotters. I forgot they are part of the family now so it makes sense to bring that type of family entertainment to a family friendly park. Am very much looking forward to that.
Pretty much underwhelmed as I thought I would be. We knew most of this before so I was not expecting much. I know this is replacing a kids area, but how many kids areas do they really need? If you really look at it, why would putting in used rides from a place (CC) that was a failure be considered a smart move ? hopefully better things are on the horizon.
Pretty much underwhelmed as I thought I would be. We knew most of this before so I was not expecting much. I know this is replacing a kids area, but how many kids areas do they really need? If you really look at it, why would putting in used rides from a place (CC) that was a failure be considered a smart move ? hopefully better things are on the horizon.They need several "kids" areas. In fact, they could use another one after this one on the other side of the park. It's over half their audience when you consider that most parents are there for their kids (until they realize how much else the park has in store at least). Also, the fact that CC "failed" has nothing to do with these rides, I don't understand your point at all.
The Baloons arent the existing ones from Tom Sawyers Landing?
I call the Swings from HH existing as they have been at SDC for a while.
Shave, I'm not sure why you are surprised at some of the reactions (including my own).
I don't believe you'll find anyone damning the addition. It goes without saying there is value in this update, many times over. However, from a development standpoint, you also have to weigh this at face value. While yes, this area will cater to a broad demographic, it lacks the cache many expect when the tease of any major announcement lingers with speculation for months. Regardless of the variables we are certain about going into said announcement. And that's great marketing, by the way.
Two other points. There have always been mixed reviews and complaints with how GE came to fruition. I would equate this to somewhat of a sister area to that based on the offerings and its target demographic. That by nature leaves the door wide open for constructive criticism. Secondly, while we cannot expect a coaster project or true thrill ride every season, there has been legitimate speculation around a coaster potentially gracing this area since the WB was removed a long time ago.
From a buzz perspective, this is a lot like the St. Louis Rams holding the number one pick on NFL Draft Day. Many fans are always hoping for the flashy pick. The stud QB, or WR oozing with PR value. Instead, they opt for an offensive lineman. Is it sexy? Not at all. But the intent is to fill a void that could continue to strengthen the core of the franchise.
At the end of the day, it's all subjective. I don't believe anyone doubts this will be done well, and amuse many. I just think a good number of us were hoping for that extra twist to really keep us talking for the days, weeks and months to come.
People wanted the splash pads....looks like they are staying, or possibly even making it larger.
QuotePeople wanted the splash pads....looks like they are staying, or possibly even making it larger.
Looks like it. Pay attention to all the splashing behind the entrance. The squiggles in the concept map must be the static hoses in this picture:
(http://www.weebly.com/uploads/6/0/7/6/6076564/1576532_orig.png)
That will be much more meaningful theming than a random ball toss and splash pad just for the sake of having them. The attraction is not for me, but I can certainly appreciate the look.
The artwork seems to indicate a pathway going toward the tracks on the far side of the area near the "junior fire escape". Do we have any reason to believe that at some point this path could continue around Silver Lake to hook up with Wilson's Farm?
The large foundations (near the train tracks) looks to be what will become Firestation #3.
It looks like it will have a smaller footprint than GG, but the same idea with the foam cannons.
They are actually demolishing every piece of GG for this, and pushing the area back rather than building behind the old GG structure like I was assuming.
Just have the repeated concern.... another? kids area?. Or am I looking at this wrong.... is the balloon ride, the "bumpy" wagon and the "firefall" all considered adult rides? Therfore making the area a "family" area.
While nothing from CC is in the addition, I see at least two existing rides.
I like the new concept, but why did GG have to go away for this to happen? Modern amusement park design is starting to go the way of the city park.
Need a train depot there.
I seriously had not been in Geyser Gulch since the late 00's (when Splash Harbor was still back there), but my memory tells me there was a bathroom building in the back corner?
The Balloons aren't the existing ones from Tom Sawyers Landing?
This area should have lots of water shooting out. Not just a small splash pad area.
And speaking of Dalmatians, when it said meet resident Dalmatian I was thinking of the real dog from Fire in the Hole, but if you look at the renderings, there is a costumed character.....
It will look great. I notice all of the lines for the rides appear to be lakeside. The general appearance looks great, but needs to be "weathered". The Greedy structure looks to be gone from the lake, but there is a big FL badge in that location in case it is to stay and be repainted. Then there is that romantic gazebo structure to sit under for some shade, which will be needed greatly with there being no career trees left in the area. What do you think the backside will look like from the train - steel building showing through with ladders and hoses hanging on the outside wall.
Perhaps the toy store will partially be incorporated with the firefighting merchandise.
BackInTime9 & t-n-t: Nope, sorry, but your whole thought processes here just comes off as whiny and complaining, which is something I try to steer this site away from.
To those complaining about riding dalmatians... how is this any different than riding frogs and insects in the Grand Expo?
Is it #3 because this is the 3rd retheme of that area of the park?
Here's my thought though. Will it add or take away interest in FITH. Since there is a new Fireman theme going on will they put any of that love into Fire station No.1
No one has talked about the impact it may or may not have on FITH.
SWOOSH: The water splash area will be very similar in design to what is in Flik's Fun Fair at Disney California Adventure. There will be "hoses" that go overhead that squirt and many other activities. While there will not be water cannons to shoot targets, there might be interactive elements that you can squirt people with.
To those complaining about riding dalmatians... how is this any different than riding frogs and insects in the Grand Expo?
I think this works much better....I mean, when you were a kid who didn't try to ride on the back of the family dog?
Jay
Isn't the smaller drop tower just the same ride rethemed that was at CC as well.
^What? I don't even...
This is an incredibly original and thoughtful addition. Few other parks on this planet outside of Orlando and Hollywood do this kind of thing, most just plop down a few cookie-cutter rides. What 'last expansion' are you referring to? Outlaw Run, the massive wooden coaster from last year? HDH, the toddler area that was added before that? Riverblast? The Giant Swing? Grand Expo was added back in 2006 and was the last addition to feature a collection of rides. I'll grant that the two smaller kiddie rides are similar to some in GE, but there's not a lot of variance with kiddie rides. SDC does not have any tower rides until this addition, and the Zamperla Crazy Bus is an entirely new motion. The Balloons are also a unique experience that you have to try out to appreciate. The theming, atmosphere, and total area experience being created here is phenomenal and unheard of for most parks this size.
Honestly, when stuff like this gets posted I feel like pulling a Robb Alvey and just banning people. I finally understand where his attitude comes from. After almost a decade of following this park through this site and outlining our hopes and wishes for how the park should be developed, here is a development that responds to a lot of that while also meeting the park's need to appeal to a broad range of visitors. I'm not asking anyone to "love" the addition, or even be happy about it, but if you are going to criticize it at least be constructive and use basic common sense.
^What? I don't even...
Honestly, when stuff like this gets posted I feel like pulling a Robb Alvey and just banning people. I finally understand where his attitude comes from. After almost a decade of following this park through this site and outlining our hopes and wishes for how the park should be developed, here is a development that responds to a lot of that while also meeting the park's need to appeal to a broad range of visitors. I'm not asking anyone to "love" the addition, or even be happy about it, but if you are going to criticize it at least be constructive and use basic common sense.
Theme parks and vacation spots hold special places in our hearts. We visit, and we have experiences that stay with us all our lives. With fondness, we remember the rides, the shows, the historical significance, the beauty, and we pass the experiences generationally.
Because of this, we often take ownership of a place or a thing that does not belong to us. We come to think we can insult the true managers of a place or thing because it is ours. After all, it was our experiences that brought us to a place - and back to the same place. We see changes, and we think, I would have done it differently, or if only they had asked me for my ideas... Call it "armchair vacation design" if you will.
Sitting back, however, we must realize that the property, the investment in capital and the employment of personnel is not really ours. Thus, the decisions made are not ours. We were not privy to the process of deciding to change this or add that. We were not in the conversation of deciding to solve a problem or issue in a particular manner. We might want to be, but most of us would not have the skills or the know-how to make such choices, weighing the opportunity cost, designing the marketing, meeting the needs and demands of management, increasing public attraction, all while balancing the checkbook.
We own it solely in our imaginations, and in our imaginations there is no criticism - just our own vision, just our own desires, just our own experiences...and an unlimited budget without risk of failure. In our imaginations, we see only happy faces; we fail so see the physics, the economics, and the rule of law. But that's OK because we do own our imaginations.
We make the same harsh criticism on highway design, restaurants, and television programs. We question the store that puts display in the aisle. We wonder why a car does not have certain amenities. But that's different. Those things are not like our childhood memories of a vacation getaway. Those things do not hold the same level of nostalgia for us. We don't "own" those things like we do our experiences.
So the next time we visit a national park, state-of-the-art museum, or theme park, we must remind ourselves that we have purchased a ticket to someone else's imagination. We have crossed the turnstile to someone else's pocketbook. We have visited someone else's property. But that does not remove our ability to experience it and pass it to the next generation. If we still enjoy the rides, the shows, the historical significance, and the beauty that is there - and not worry about what it looks like in our own imaginary worlds - then we will have something worth keeping and a memory worth repeating.
^^I've been one of HFEC's most vocal and persistent critics online for the past decade. I definitely don't "buy into everything HFE throws out there".
My whole point is, we've been vocal about so much over the past years, and when the park finally seems to start responding to that as best they can and our boards are STILL full of bitching and complaining, then what's the point? They might as well cheap out on us if we're going to be "disappointed" and "let down" no matter what. Seriously, we've been watching this for a year now, we knew almost exactly what was going to be announced, the hope was that the area would still look good and contribute to the park's fabric and excellent atmosphere. And we got that.
Sure, there's still some constructive criticism to be made even on this addition, and I'm fine with that, but just throwing the park under the bus when they are going way beyond the standard of any other park within a 1000 mile radius is just bonkers, and it makes this site useless as a fan medium.
SO, if you're going to complain - do it constructively and make sure it makes sense!!!
^^I've been one of HFEC's most vocal and persistent critics online for the past decade. I definitely don't "buy into everything HFE throws out there".
My whole point is, we've been vocal about so much over the past years, and when the park finally seems to start responding to that as best they can and our boards are STILL full of bitching and complaining, then what's the point? They might as well cheap out on us if we're going to be "disappointed" and "let down" no matter what. Seriously, we've been watching this for a year now, we knew almost exactly what was going to be announced, the hope was that the area would still look good and contribute to the park's fabric and excellent atmosphere. And we got that.
Sure, there's still some constructive criticism to be made even on this addition, and I'm fine with that, but just throwing the park under the bus when they are going way beyond the standard of any other park within a 1000 mile radius is just bonkers, and it makes this site useless as a fan medium.
SO, if you're going to complain - do it constructively and make sure it makes sense!!!
I'm simply stating that I believe the park could of done better on this new addition. Its nothing new as stated before. It's just an opinion and if opinions can not be said than what is the point of a discussion. I have opinions as you do. I'm not saying anything bad about what you have said. I respect your comments. That said, I do not have to agree with them. As many of the people I have talked to and work there express my thoughts. I'm sure it will be nice and our kids will enjoy going to see it. But are we overly excited about it and can't wait for next year? No. Its not something that has us counting down the day's. I hope their vision in the future will expand past the norm and blow us away as most of their new attractions have. We are looking forward to what comes in 2017 maybe it will be something new.
I'm simply stating that I believe the park could of done better on this new addition. Its nothing new as stated before. It's just an opinion and if opinions can not be said than what is the point of a discussion. I have opinions as you do. I'm not saying anything bad about what you have said. I respect your comments. That said, I do not have to agree with them. As many of the people I have talked to and work there express my thoughts. I'm sure it will be nice and our kids will enjoy going to see it. But are we overly excited about it and can't wait for next year? No. Its not something that has us counting down the day's. I hope their vision in the future will expand past the norm and blow us away as most of their new attractions have. We are looking forward to what comes in 2017 maybe it will be something new.
What is the fire wagon that is parked in front of the new building? Will it be the same one that is currently on the main square? What will happen to the classic fire station structure that has been on the main square for so long? I'm hoping they keep it in place, it's a classic piece of old Herschend charm in the heart of the city. They can build a new fire wagon for FL.
It looks like the same type of vehicle. The one on the square is No. 1, as is FitH. This is a mystery.No one ever said hillbillies were the best at counting ;)
it is the third Firehouse/Firefighting structure with FITH sporting the Number 1 above its entrance
The fact that there's more to do than coasters is usually the only way I can convince people to even take a look at going to SDC. People my age group don't necessarily like the Six Flags experience any more than you. SDC has done virtually nothing but focus on rides since 2001, so there's plenty for everyone to do.
SDC has marketed this new area for "ages 3-93." once again with the #3 being used. hmmm ???
If it truly is for all ages, what will the grandparents be doing here? The concept art doesn't show any shops, restaurant or crafts.
That's my constructive criticism. Only because they are using the age range as wide as they are.
I love the thematics of the area, and once again, I think it is a major improvement over GG.
What is the fire wagon that is parked in front of the new building? Will it be the same one that is currently on the main square? What will happen to the classic fire station structure that has been on the main square for so long? I'm hoping they keep it in place, it's a classic piece of old Herschend charm in the heart of the city. They can build a new fire wagon for FL.
QuoteThe fact that there's more to do than coasters is usually the only way I can convince people to even take a look at going to SDC. People my age group don't necessarily like the Six Flags experience any more than you. SDC has done virtually nothing but focus on rides since 2001, so there's plenty for everyone to do.
Shave, the above comment reminded me of the very first time I visited SDC. We brought our church youth group thinking that they would really go for the thrill rides like Wildfire which had just opened at the time. The funny thing was that they spent most of their time (especially a couple of the boys) visiting the shops. It's a good reminder that it's not a good idea to pigeonhole demographic groups.
I, on the other hand, wouldn't have gotten within a mile of a ride like Wildfire at the time, but a year or two later rode TNT and that gave me the courage to try Wildfire, and I was hooked. So now, at 54, I love the thrill rides, the dark rides and the craftsmen & shops. About the only thing I miss about a park like Disneyland is the dark rides with the amazing special effects and theming like the Haunted House.
Of course I'm disappointed there's not going to be another amazing thrill ride with this addition, but I love the theming and think it's a big improvement over GG. Looking forward to being in the city tomorrow night and getting my first ride on Outlaw Run! ;D
QuotePeople wanted the splash pads....looks like they are staying, or possibly even making it larger.
Looks like it. Pay attention to all the splashing behind the entrance. The squiggles in the concept map must be the static hoses in this picture:
(http://www.weebly.com/uploads/6/0/7/6/6076564/1576532_orig.png)
That will be much more meaningful theming than a random ball toss and splash pad just for the sake of having them. The attraction is not for me, but I can certainly appreciate the look.
This probably does not belong here, but it kind of does too. With the new addition-upgrade if you would take the park and draw a straight line from HDH through main street down through the lake it seems like the west side ( thunderation side) is growing as more of the family side of the park. Where as The East side is more the thrill side. Wonder if this is intentional or just how things are progressing? Feel free to move this to a new topic if appropriate.
They're not wasting any time on the deconstruction.
http://midwestinfoguide.com/silver/2014/08.17/
Has the geyser in the lake disappeared yet? I am wondering if it will go away or be repurposed.If the geyser was left-over from the Greedy Bro.s days then I can see them leaving it in the lake.
Since this is how this is being marketed...
(http://sdc.silverdollarcity.com/sitepages/2015/global/images/hg-hero-desktop-v3.jpg)
...does that imply that this is the idea behind it...
http://www.collegebasketballexperience.com/ (http://www.collegebasketballexperience.com/)?
Have they promised actual Globetrotters, or are they just providing an "experience" with the Globetrotter name? And more stinkin' bouncing balls!
I wish there were more trees.
^Well, if you've been on any recent Vekoma's, you'd know that they are more competitive and make much better rides now. The old SLC's and boomerangs are going to stick around for a long time, but they aren't what Vekoma offers today. The family coaster they built for FC, for example, is just about perfect for what it is. That being said, it seems they are still having a few issues since the mis-hap with the signature coasters they built for Universal Singapore.
But back to the topic at hand: we'll be inundated with photos from FL this weekend. Coaster Christmas participants will be given a construction tour on Saturday I believe.
During the speaker portion Brad put some emphasis on the story behind FL. This area extends the story of Fire-in-the-Hole be creating a training grounds for future firemen and women who will ensure that Baldknobbers can never again burn the town down.
During the speaker portion Brad put some emphasis on the story behind FL. This area extends the story of Fire-in-the-Hole be creating a training grounds for future firemen and women who will ensure that Baldknobbers can never again burn the town down.
With this, can we at least have a small glimmer of hope that Fire-In-The-Hole will get a makeover/refurb at some point?
Here's my photos of the Construction Site Tour from Coaster Christmas.
http://midwestinfoguide.com/silver/2014/11.08/
A re-build of FitH is inevitable within the next decade or sooner, I think. It's not just old, it's simply not holding up and needs a lot of work. I think I heard one of the officials talking about this a little at one point, and I was glad to hear them acknowledge that it is such a special ride and they will have to do something to keep it's essence alive in the future. Hard to say how they'll do that... maybe a topic to continue in the 2016 or future speculation threads.
Here's my photos of the Construction Site Tour from Coaster Christmas.
http://midwestinfoguide.com/silver/2014/11.08/
Good Set Pinto
I can't believe they are already closed for the season. They'll be open again before we know it, though!
I can't believe they are already closed for the season. They'll be open again before we know it, though!
Yep, got Marvel Universe live in LR with the kids in a couple of weeks, the week at Disney in Feb, and tHan geared up hoping for warm temps for SDC opener. Time will fly by.
Thanks for the photos! It looks great! And the paint job on the balloons looks amazing; it really fits the park. This area is such a huge improvement, it's got to be one of the best projects the park has ever taken on. We've gone from Tom Sawyer's Landing, to Geyser Gulch, to this, and I think this is the best they've ever done with it. I wish they had put half as much effort into GE.
They keep pushing the dog character. I wonder how that will progress, because I can't really see where they're going with it. It's obviously not going to go viral or anything, but it will be cute for the kids to take pictures with.
Plus, they "have" to play that stupid, annoying horse sound every time you leave the station.
:D :D :D Haha Shave! Now you know how I feel standing in line for Outlaw Run. Finally someone understands!!! There is a loud, annoying voice that comes on the speakers every 15 minutes, on Outlaw Run, talking about what the ride does, when people either already know what it does, or dont want to know because they want to be surprized. Plus, they "have" to play that stupid, annoying horse sound every time you leave the station.
I mean, that's the safety spiel... that's kinda important and standard practice.
Safety spiel??? Standard practice? What are you talking about??
Yeah I got a bunch, but I'll probably wait till tomorrow to post them since I'm tired.
The bathrooms should also look like the fire station bathrooms in CC. They looked super cool!
Maybe they can expand FL and put fire truck bumper cars in FL! Right next to the balloons, in the tree area. Maybe even police bumper cars, in a different area.
But they said on the map, there will be a soft play area, like Mc Ds with ball pit and slide, and a jungle gym for adults featuring rock wall, tubes, slides, and mazes. They only have the soft play area. They told me they consider stuff thats in the ball factory to be the big kid obstacle course but its not. Its just some rubber stuff for stairs along with the ball factory. Nothing more. Nothing like what it said and i know what it said because I have the paper to prove it. I was pissed when they told me that because i really wanted to go on a rock wall for the first time and go on a cool obstacle course which would also be my first time. But no, they wanted to change it and do it their way, different from the map. IM PISSED!It appears the people you know and that are willing to talk led you in the wrong direction...I haven't seen the FL yet but I would love to see an obstacle course that all could enjoy as well. Didn't they do some sort of obstacle course at Dollywood a few years ago? How has that gone over? I'd like to try climbing a rock wall also.
The ropes course at DW was removed. Firechaser Express is located there nowI wondered how long it would last. Did it have to with the cost of insuring it or was it just not that popular?
No swoosh. They promised a kiddie obstacle course, an adult obstacle course, and the foam ball factory. All 3 separate from each other, but in the same building. But they didnt put the adult obstacle course in, like they were suppost to.
FireFall is a great piece of the area in theory, but the capacity issues are ridiculous. It really seems like they had the opportunity to re-engineer the tower to accommodate at least another seat on each side like the bigger S&S towers.If I am not mistaken that originally had 4 seats per side when it was at CC. Rode it a few times. Possibly they went to 3 seats per side because they are modified seats and larger than the others.
Because you can never have enough photos of Fireman's Landing here are my photos finally
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/silver/2015/03.22/
Doctor Doom Freefall at Universal's Islands of Adventure holds 16. Just off the top of my head. Double 16 person towers.
Anyway, I could have sworn I've riden some 16-passenger S&S towers, but now that I look back on them I see that I was wrong. They do have a 16 passenger model though: http://www.engineeringexcitement.com/product/double-shot-tower/
How tall is this tower at Fireman's Landing compared to Detonator at Worlds of Fun? Just wondering, 'cause I LOVE Detonator.
Where are these 16 & 20 passenger towers?
Have they built any in the US? Because I have yet to see one and it's not like parks are really building them anymore. Most that are going to have one already do.
Where are these 16 & 20 passenger towers?
Have they built any in the US? Because I have yet to see one and it's not like parks are really building them anymore. Most that are going to have one already do.
Dude, why so hostile.
Everything I posted came from their websight.
Where are these 16 & 20 passenger towers?
Have they built any in the US? Because I have yet to see one and it's not like parks are really building them anymore. Most that are going to have one already do.
Dude, why so hostile.
Everything I posted came from their websight.
It was inquisitive.
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Too all this I say.....SO WHAT, who cares, just because you don't like what he says it doesn't give some of you the right to make personal attacks on him.
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Moderators....take this however you want, I just couldn't in good conscience sit back while these "veteran" posters continued to act like elitist forum bullies. I would think that everyone would be accepting of others that are here to share their love of this park and post ideas of what they would like to see, even if you don't agree with these ideas. If I am now unwelcome here because of this post, then so-be-it, I will just say.....Enjoy the park and try to remember the Christian values that it prides itself on. Thanks for listening.
There is a ton of unsed space on the other sides of the park. Like behind wild fire and powder keg.
Take a look at this first coaster. Thats a coaster that takes up little space because the track is all above you. Plus, its very different. Which is what you want at SDC. http://youtu.be/TcJKqigC4iQ
I don't know what I'm going to have to do to keep discussions in the appropriate thread. Once again: talk about ideas in the ideas thread.
Fireman's Landing officially opened today with our very own Swoosh leading the way. That's pretty amazing, I wish I hadn't been so busy this week so I could've made a bigger deal about it. I've got to get back to making front-page updates.
You can definitely see why they went with the Fireman's theme vs. the fireworks factory or the other theme ideas. The whole patriotic/hero marketing ploy is so hot right now. Not that that's a bad thing necessarily. I think it worked out the best in any case.
I don't know what I'm going to have to do to keep discussions in the appropriate thread. Once again: talk about ideas in the ideas thread.
Fireman's Landing officially opened today with our very own Swoosh leading the way. That's pretty amazing, I wish I hadn't been so busy this week so I could've made a bigger deal about it. I've got to get back to making front-page updates.
You can definitely see why they went with the Fireman's theme vs. the fireworks factory or the other theme ideas. The whole patriotic/hero marketing ploy is so hot right now. Not that that's a bad thing necessarily. I think it worked out the best in any case.
Law enforcement? Where? Maybe the sheriff guy in the Street Shows. I hope youre not talking about Outlaw Run. Thats about Cowboys, horse riders, victims. Not law enforcement.
Just wondering if the lines have been very long for Firefall? I'm looking forward to riding it.
It is themed to law enforcement. All riders are chasing the outlaws, and there is a "monument" to law enforcement officers in front of the queue.
GG sure was pretty at Christmas though.
I'm curious to see how FL turns out, since this will be it's 1st Christmas.