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Silver Dollar City & Celebration City Discussion => White Water Discussion => Topic started by: ttroyer210 on November 15, 2012, 03:02:03 PM
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Since its obvious that White Water isn't getting anything new for the 2013 season I was wondering that if anyone in the know here of heard about anything that the park could get for the 2014 season?
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I have not heard any new rumors, but with SDC getting a major ride this year the trend would favor WW getting something big next year. DW's water park is getting a proslide water coaster... but I wouldn't hold my breath to see on in Branson just yet since they are so expensive. I could see them updating a slide tower or putting in a new major slide where the Bermuda Triangle slide ends.
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That would be great i am anxious to see what they would do theming wise for the slide because if it's anything like what they have been doing with themes for WW it would be great
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Living in Fayetteville, I got a choice to make to take my kids to a summertime water park.
1)Magic Springs/Cyrstal Springs- Cheap plus daddy gets some coaster time at a reasonable price
2)Shlitterbahn in KC. Growing before my eyes, other attractions around
3)Whitewater
Now, #1 is getting some new stuff for 2013
and Then there's this for Sclitterbahn:
Suzanna Stagemeye
rAssociate Editor- Kansas City Business Journal
Email | @sstagemeyerKCBJ | Facebook
Schlitterbahn Kansas City Waterpark plans to open what it describes as “the world’s tallest, fastest and most extreme waterslide ever built” in the summer.
The Meg-a-Blaster speed slide, for four-person rafts, will “tower over” current record holder Insano at Beach Park, which is in Fortaleza, Brazil, according to a Wednesday release. That slide is 134.5 feet high and hits speeds of 65.2 miles per hour. The KCK slide will combine speed-slide drops with Schlitterbahn’s Master Blaster technology, which offers a coaster-like attraction.
A Schlitterbahn spokesperson said no cost projection will be released now.
“To ensure the record-holding statistics of this new extreme attraction, we are not going to release final height and scope of the project until we are ready to welcome our first guests,” Jeff Henry, Schlitterbahn co-owner, said in the release. “This new Meg-a-Blaster speed-slide is going to wow our guests and is going to be a game-changer for our industry. Our greatest challenge will be to find thrill seekers brave enough to ride.”
The release said more information would come closer to the unveiling of the new slide.
Schlitterbahn’s Kansas City, Kan., waterpark opens for the 2013 season on May 25. Discount season passes are on sale online; parking, tubes and lifejackets are free to use, and visitors can bring picnic baskets and coolers into the park.
For the upcoming season, the waterpark also plans to expand the number of shade structures in the park, add more changing and bathroom facilities, and add a food location in the newer section of the park.
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So has anyone heard anything else about a new project for WW?
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There will be a new attraction in 2014.
That's all the details available at this time
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Alright, thanks Swoosh
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It's no secret Whitewater hopes to draw customers from NWA, I know Fayetteville wants something like this for a new park in the south part of town and Rogers Parks Dept is opening this up this summer and is surely to compete with someone debating to drive to Branson for a water park:
(http://www.rogersarkansas.com/administration/aquaticCenter/Lazy%20River%20and%20all%20Slides.jpg)
(http://www.rogersarkansas.com/administration/aquaticCenter/Leizure%20Pool%20with%20Play%20Structure.jpg)
Fort Smith is building one as grand as Rogers also.
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Whitewater is going to have to really differentiate from the rise of these new municipal water parks that are offering the basic building blocks of for profit parks.
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I heard it was $15 bucks to get into the water park at Rogers, AR. My daughter has six kids, think they are going anytime soon? NO!
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I heard it was $15 bucks to get into the water park at Rogers, AR. My daughter has six kids, think they are going anytime soon? NO!
Related to the Duggars ;D
Here are admission prices
http://rogersarkansas.com/parks/aquaticsCenter.asp
They have been running a half price sale the punch passes and that ends today. That would have made admission for each punch around 4 bucks for Rogers resident and 6.50 fro non residents over 48inches, Admission is cheaper for those under that and free for those under 36inches. Lots of folks like to complain without knowing. Iwould also follow their Facebook.
They did not want to sell season passes yet because they do not know how the crowds are going to be. They plan to adjust after this year when they get a better feel for the operation.
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So the topic on WW attendance got me thinking more about this. I could see HFEC investing heavily in WW in 2014. I'm going to bet that they're looking into adding a water coaster of some sort based on the (assumed) success of RiverRush at DWSC. That's a high-profile attraction that you can't get at smaller water parks, and we're seeing a number of established water parks buying them up. The other option is a "spectacle" type slide such as the aqualoops or a funnel/bowl slide. I really wouldn't mind one of the new proslides with multiple bowls and funnels.
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Since the company is in the aquarium business, why not integrate some freshwater aquariums into the queues or along the rides. I just got back from Orlando, where we swam alongside aquariums with tropical fish and dolphins at their SeaWorld's Aquatica waterpark. It was an interesting concept. Doing something like this would be like sliding through Bass Pro. Make it a true Ozarkian waterpark, complete with Ozarkian critters, maybe even some snake and turtle displays.
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Since the company is in the aquarium business, why not integrate some freshwater aquariums into the queues or along the rides. I just got back from Orlando, where we swam alongside aquariums with tropical fish and dolphins at their SeaWorld's Aquatica waterpark. It was an interesting concept. Doing something like this would be like sliding through Bass Pro. Make it a true Ozarkian waterpark, complete with Ozarkian critters, maybe even some snake and turtle displays.
We are doing Discovery Cove next year with the kids. Can't wait for it and the new Snow White coaster at Disney, I'm sure it'll be a disappointment, it's a vekoma. Staying at Animal Kingdom.
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A new addition to WWB is up in the air now. FYI
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The Dwarfs coaster was under construction and looked to be the largest part of the landscape in the new area.
Discovery Cove should be a terrific experience (I don't recommend the Florida SeaWorld, though.).
Imagine, if you will, the potential of a White Water which includes The Catfish Experience and The Paddlefish Plunge. Enough of this Tropics in the Ozarks spiel; let's embrace our heritage!
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A new addition to WWB is up in the air now. FYI
Possibly no addition to White Water, yep blame it on the weather and fall further behind the region competition.
What they need in Branson is something like Kalahari's indoor park complete with an indoor water coaster to go along with White Water outside with a lodge attached. Take weather out of it. With the crowds of OTC and them opening earlier for spring break, seems this would appeal to those crowds as well as the summer crowds. SDC should do this.
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There was a FB post today saying "something has to come down before something else goes up". comments suggest that BT is coming out. It says it is happening tomorrow.
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I find it humorous that there is nothing on website about upcoming announcement or new attractions..
guess we will find out later today..
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Just saw it on FB. Bermuda Triangle is coming down... but no info on new project... ???
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Here's hoping that old Proslide tower rumor comes true.
At this point, anything new from Proslide would be tremendous for the park.
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Here's more on the removal including pictures and video:
From Branson Tri-Lakes News
http://bransontrilakesnews.com/news_free/article_fd75211e-27a5-11e3-a4ef-0019bb2963f4.html
From Hometown Daily News Radio
http://www.hometowndailynews.com/17077/white_water_says_goodbye_to_slide_to_make_room_for_new_attraction.html
From KY3
http://www.ky3.com/news/ky3-white-water-removing-popular-bermuda-triangle-water-slide-20130927,0,854001.story
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While looking at HFEC website about the harlem globetrotters, I find it funny.... NO word about white water addition or mods.. ???
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Well, give 'em some time. The Globetrotters thing is a new, big deal. We will hear more about WW as the project continues, and plenty next spring just prior to the park opening.
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http://www.ky3.com/news/local/white-water-unveils-drawing-for-new-water-slide-to-open-in-2014/-/21048998/22612418/-/1ab1mu/-/index.html
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Meh
Doesn't do much to catch up with it's competitors in the region.
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Unfortunately unless white water dumps a lot of money into the park they won't ever catch up with the competitor's. We happily drive 3hrs to Kansas city 5-6 times a year over driving 30min to white water even once. The other parks are far bigger and have many more options for the whole family. Hopefully this is only a drop in the bucket of improvements to come.
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Maybe they should sell it off and repurpose Celebration City as a new Whitewater park.
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Sounds like a neat pair of slides, but honestly I was surprised that they went with such a short model. It's design and marketing intend for it to be a thrill ride, but then they seem to have gone and tried to make it "family-friendly" by making it shorter that typical slides of this type. I'm not sure that's how it works with this type of slide, but we'll see.
It is a drop in the bucket for what they really need to do for the park to be seriously alluring. They're taking a slide out for this, so it's not even a huge net increase in their offerings. I was really hoping for a new combo slide tower. The sad thing is that this will be considered a "big" project for them, and I wouldn't expect to see another new slide addition again for at least a few years.
Someday though the economics will be just right to where they see value in putting some serious investment in the place. I think they need SDC to keep being built up at the moment though.
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Maybe they should sell it off and repurpose Celebration City as a new Whitewater park.
I think they only lease the land that whitewater sits on. Not sure how many years is left on the lease though. But I agree start new at the old CC site where you have the room to expand. Maybe include a aquarium and a area for a winter ice skating rink to make it more of a year round attraction.
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IF you are going to build a new waterpark - build it out by SDC and be done with it.
While you're at it, move the SBB's landing out to Indian Point too so that it is all HFEC properties.
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article from Tri-Lakes.:
http://bransontrilakesnews.com/news_free/article_d3f0454a-3da2-11e3-815a-0019bb2963f4.html
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That's a good PR Dept. sell job. Families ask for thrill and we get an average staple of WhiteWater's catalog. It would have been nice if it was part of a new six or seven slide tower This would have been a nice addition but not a main attraction.
What about something like this
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(http://www.blooloop.com/pt/uploads/image/MACH%20Custom%20Complexes.jpg)
Or
(http://www.themeparkpost.com/resources/whitewater.jpg)
Or do what Swoosh sez and build just half of this out by SDC
(http://www.2luxury2.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/yas_waterworld_abu_dhabi.jpg.jpg)
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That's a good PR Dept. sell job. Families ask for thrill and we get an average staple of WhiteWater's catalog.
It will be a Proslide version, and WW is getting a new water slide, so let's be gratetful.
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I'm feeling sassy, so I'll say it! We are grateful, but it never hurts to wish for more and hope for bigger.
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GOOD NEWS: the new addition sets the park up for future expansion in the area
BAD NEWS: these will be the shortest slides of this type (both height and length) in the state/area
A quality addition to the park, no doubt -- just curious why they didn't go for longer/higher slides if they were wanting thrills.
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GOOD NEWS: the new addition sets the park up for future expansion in the area
BAD NEWS: these will be the shortest slides of this type (both height and length) in the state/area
A quality addition to the park, no doubt -- just curious why they didn't go for longer/higher slides if they were wanting thrills.
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I don't do the white water thing, or any other water parks either.. but do lsten to you all when discussing it.. I am a little surprised at the "size" of the new ride,? With only an investment of 1.7 mill.... for a ltiile more they could have added a "real" ride.. ???
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I will confess that I was wrong with the manufacturer... I did not think that HFE and White Water West were doing business anymore. The last several HFE water park additions have been proslide. $1.7 does not buy you a lot in today's amusement industry. I think this will be a great addition.
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I guess my point was..... for a little more money they could have gone taller and made the ride more of a thrill for the public.....
(I read my previous comment and it didn't sound right.)
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in case you don't have this link, link to webcam that you can see WW in...
http://www.bransontravelandvacation.com/webcams/4
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I know I'm late to the party. Glad to see they are at least trying, even though it's going to take a lot more. But...
I'm very sad to see the Bermuda Triangle go. Perhaps I'm in the minority. But when my family used to go to WW we always enjoyed the bermuda triangle.
But we haven't gone in ten years or more, so I guess I can't complain that one of my favorites is going away.
Should try to make it back, but from what I hear on this board it just might not be worth it and my memories are probably better than the reality.
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I have fond memories of the bermuda triangle to, but it was obviously time for it to go. Slides seem to have a more obvious shelf life than conventional rides.
As for WW itself though, I honestly think it keeps getting better, albeit slowly. The newly improved areas look good. This new slide is honestly kind of hard to get too excited over, though it will be interesting and hit a nice demographic of 8-12ish kids that are the meat of WW's crowd. As always, I'm interested to see how the area around this will be redeveloped, as it could be yet another big extension of the slow process to completely revitalize the park.
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In my old age of 39, I find that waterparks aren't as appealing to me as they once were. I'll take the area of Table Rock Rock on Indian Point any day of the week.
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I'm 40 but I enjoy the water. I love riding the raft slides with my kids and look forward to hitting up a large raft size water coaster like the one they put in at Dollywood. I'm not much on individual slide rides, but I love the wave system that schlitterbahn has on it's lazy river and the old school tube rapids section.
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well at 39 & 40, you boys are still on the bottle.
But I do think it is kinda cool that you can still hack a big dose of water across the mug at 40.
I have to agree more with OKIE in this case. Im not fond of water splashin me in the face (I didnt like it at 39 either). I really dont care much for water holes at all these days. -- I do enter Hurricane Harbor at SFSL, but only because its included with park admission. I thoroughly enjoy the wave pool, lazy river, and the big (dumping) bucket. Those 3 attractions are hardly worth a days admission though IMO.
Chitlins, stay young buddy. Its "W"ell to get old. I really do think its neat you still ride wild water slides - thats awesome.
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I do like that WW is getting improvements though. Water parks are huge these days. I do kinda wish we could get a good "extreme" ride, like so many other water parks have these days.
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I am in my 50's and still enjoy the water parks more than regular theme parks. Cannot wait to make my first trip to Schlitterbahn this year.
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My Dad was a hell of a waterskier. He turned down job offers from Cypress Gardens in the late 60s. I have a photo of him on skis going down little old St. Francis River in NEA behind a flatbottom boat.
Our family set up a camp for nearly two months a year at Greers Ferry Lake back when I was young. folks came and went the whole time. There's old 8mm film of my Dad and cousins doing three man pyramids.I busted my ear drum in a nasty wipeout out cutting across the wake at 12. I was good but not close to my Dad's level of awesome. I've fallen out of practice as the world seems to move so much faster and there seems to be many more demands on time than it used to be. Things like little league last nearly all summer and so on.
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yea thats cool. I never did much care for water really. I know thats odd considering I can swim. I still wish WW was more of a "world class" or "extreme" waterpark though.
My family has always had dirt track cars. Our weekends were always consumed at the local track. We never had the money or sponsers to make it pro. We have many many "1st in points" trophys though
Now my Son has the drag racing bug. Until about 8 years ago. I knew very little about drag. His Trans Am blew up about 4 years ago, and money is just not there to rebuild (and oddly enough-he is an ASE certified mechanic, and service adviser at a local shop). But drag engines require lots of machine work, and lots of $$$
I do think it is neat that you guys still like waterslides though. Runner. Im pushin 50 now I dont know how you do it, but keep it up.
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This posted today on FB,,,,
http://www.silverdollarcity.com/bransonwaterpark?sd=1&cid=smc_000031
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Water parks don't hold any attraction for me at all, but water…ah, water. I love any sport that takes place on the water. It's always a conundrum coming to Branson. Do we head for the lake or head for SDC? There are many trips that we don't spend anytime in Branson, and always put off SDC until tomorrow. But tomorrow never comes because either Taneycomo or Table Rock are calling to us. BullShoals is awfully nice, too.
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anyway,,,,
UPDATE
http://midwestinfoguide.com/whitewater/2014/04.27/
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Here's a link to the video on KY3 of Brandon Beck riding the new ride:
http://www.ky3.com/news/local/video-brandon-beck-takes-trip-on-new-white-water-park-thrill-ride/21048998_26099132
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Ka Pow a Ka Pow Pow marketing blitz is on in NWA. I'm underwhelmed.
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It seemed a little sophomoric to me when it played on the Mid-MO stations.