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Silver Dollar City & Celebration City Discussion => General Silver Dollar City Talk => Topic started by: History Buff on March 31, 2008, 06:50:18 PM

Title: Theming
Post by: History Buff on March 31, 2008, 06:50:18 PM
Theming elements are usually the little "tweaks".  The tongue-in-cheek.  They invite slaps to the forehead and comments like "I can't believe it actually says that," or "somebody actually had that idea and they did it!"  Theming elements are the inexpensive additions to an area that amusement parks don't have.  They may include things like trash can covers and line railing, but they also include creative signage (like a creative poem telling you not to look over a rail when the train is passing underneath the bridge you're standing on), sidewalk prints (like the original haybale design inside the Giant Swing), and other items that the average visitor might walk right on by without noticing.  Many times the theme sets the stage for the ride you're standing in line for - like all the inventor's sketches and the small laboratory in the corner of the queue for Wildfire (It's almost disappointing when the line moves too fast for you to read all there is - and there's even more upstairs when the line gets really long!).  Oft times, the theming is actually educational (like in the lines at ThuNderaTion, Fire-in-the-Hole, and the Lost River).

Silver Dollar City is at its best when it floods areas with the 1880s Ozarkian themes - I think we can all agree on this point.  The talk in one of the coaster threads, however, has inspired me to move the discussion here.

So, what are your favorite theme elements?

Where do the themes work and where do they fall flat?

Are there theming elements that most people miss if they're not looking for them?

Do you have any ideas for new items that could be added?

I consider the every trip to SDC worth my time as long as I can spot at least one theme element I haven't noticed before, and I've been successful almost every visit.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: shavethewhales on March 31, 2008, 08:50:39 PM
I think Wildfire was an outstanding show of the creative ability of the park. It has a fun, completely original theme combined with excellent theming such as the flying contraption above the gift shop, the sweet scenes with effects in the station, and the various novelties outside the building. What's also great about it is that the ride is positioned within the park so that it pokes out of the trees and commands the skyline around the park, yet isn't right up in the park where it takes away from the atmosphere of the city.

The Grand Expo is an example of an area where I wish SDC had used more of said creative ability. The area is also fun and well positioned within the park so that it can be a part of the park without making the rest of the city feel to much like an amusement park, but it kinda lacks some of the usual special effects that we're used to. I mean, the area is nicely laid out, but it doesn't feel all that much like a grand expo. It could do well  if they added some kind of 'exhibits' or cool randomness to the area to make it feel like you're really in a some kind of odd fair. As it is though, I'm just glad they found a way to add in the family rides some many guests were dying for in a  way that didn't hurt the atmosphere of the park as a whole too badly. I just hope the area doesn't get out of hand with them throwing rides in there. I'd like to see a midway develop there, with one of those ornate shoot-D'-chutes that you see in vintage postcards from past world's fairs.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Copper on March 31, 2008, 10:54:58 PM
I agree that the family rides of the Expo were much needed. I love taking my nephew and niece to the area and able to ride the rides with them. Over time the trees will fill in and help the space out. The area was a parking lot at one time. Jack Herschend brought in a lot of different trees into the area and he even planted some red woods.

The appearance of the rides is lacking. I would have preferred some old time rides like the Whip and Chute the Chutes. It wouldn’t have been hard to order the rides to fit a special SDC theme either. (I applaud the Electro Spin the large paintings in front of the queue line explain what they are doing with electricity) I love Holiday Worlds wave carousel, if you haven’t seen it check it out. I just hate seeing the flying elephants and a swinging ship that is duplicated everywhere else. I would have liked if they stretched their imaginations when it came to the Expo.

I enjoy the Andyisms of the park: Bubbling water bucket on Main Street, water flowing from a tree.

I also enjoy the details in the buildings: Not many strait lines, the wear and tare in corners and cracks...

I could go on and on about the little things that make the park special. What I should do is go all over the park and take pictures and post them on this site, which would be fun!
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: History Buff on April 01, 2008, 05:55:20 PM
I'd like that - everyone with pictures should stick them here.  See if we can tell where in the park the pictures were taken.  Here's an easy one, but it's all I have right now.  My daughter loves this location, and I take her to it when my wife is shopping in the quilt shop.  She always answers the bucket.

Bucket:  Hey Steve!
Daughter:  Steve's not here!

As I said, this is an easy one, but do you know where this is?  There are clues in the background.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/MrHoggatt/Silver%20Dollar%20City/100_2839.jpg)

They repainted this last year, thankfully not relegating it to rot and despair.  And it's one example of an educational element to the theming.  I like to plop myself on the fence across from it and watch people react to it talking to them.  It would be cool to have a live person talking and listening to the people as they stroll by, hasseling them and freaking them out with all kinds of railroad requests.  Kind of a Candid Camera type thing in good taste.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Joy on April 01, 2008, 08:48:02 PM
LOL... Yeah, that'd be awesome. It'd be kinda like Push the Trash Can at the Disney parks...

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Old Guy on April 02, 2008, 12:17:54 PM
Somehow the bucket dosn't make sense anymore. There used to be a maniquin on the other side of the tracks with another bucket and a string pulled between the two. He went away when the currlycue bridge went in. We should organise a huge write in campaign to bring him back, a rally, a sit in...... oh fine I'll sit down.   ;)
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Coaster on April 02, 2008, 06:27:36 PM
One of my favorite theming elements at SDC would have to be in the Grandfather's Mansion with all it's little details. The bathroom door is one of my favorites. If I remember correct it says, Johnny's Room and when you knock on it you hear flushing.

Oh and the new pool table felt there is just so exciting!  ;D

That should be like our site slogan or something:

SDCFans.com! "We're so obsessed, we notice new pool table felt!"
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: History Buff on April 03, 2008, 12:06:31 PM
Remember to look in the mirror in GM.  Wait for it.  Wait.  There!

You'll never look at your reflection in quite the same way again.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: sdcforever on April 03, 2008, 04:47:40 PM
First of all thanks, Coaster, for welcoming me to the forums!  8)

One of my favorite themes is the random signs throughout the park that remind me, at least, that I'm in the 1880s.  Such as the Nott and Shott sign (a poem that ends with "So Nott was shot and Shott was not, so in this case it was better to be Shott than Nott") and the ghost horse toll bridge with the signs tallying who has crossed the bridge.  Also the thief lineup/suspect sign with the mirror (that reveals you as the culprit!) which I believe is on the side of the saloon by the water fountain.  Correct me if I'm wrong on this.

I also love the daredevil signs in the queue leading up to the American Plunge (the pole sitting record, etc).  I do wish more theming was restored to the ride that extends the daredevil aspect, though.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: History Buff on April 03, 2008, 06:06:33 PM
You are correct.  The culprit mirror is on the side of the restrooms at the tintype/portrait place (the old bookstore and print shop).

How about the picture at Fire-in-the-Hole that looks like an advertisement with a lady taking a bath.  The guest is invited to pull down a panel to reveal the full picture inside the tub, only to discover that what you thought was something else is really the bald heads of two men, and the picture is no longer a bath scene.

I think Powder Keg needs more theming.  The storyline is lost on a lot of people, and it's just a rollercoaster to a lot of people.  It should do more to teach the cave-guano-gun powder connection.  I know there's a big area in the queue, but it needs to be more explicit.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Coaster on April 03, 2008, 08:41:55 PM
Thunderation also has some great theming but people don't take the time to notice because the line is never that long for the ride anymore.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Joy on April 03, 2008, 11:04:07 PM
I always want to stop and enjoy (and videotape) the theming on Thunderation, but I'm always with friends or family who are eager to get to the ride...

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: sdcforever on April 04, 2008, 10:27:35 AM
Thunderation also has some great theming but people don't take the time to notice because the line is never that long for the ride anymore.

Ahhh...those were the days.  I remember when Thunderation first opened and the queue stretched all the way outside of the loading station.  It does have great theming; so do the queues for Wildfire, Powder Keg, and the Lost River too, actually.  Now when you ride Thunderation you practically sprint inside the loading station and it's rare when the line is so long that you have to wait somewhere besides for a specific car.  I love riding backwards, and I've ridden it so many times that I have the turns, stops, and sudden drops memorized.  My favorite thing to do is point out Inspiration Tower on the lift hill!  Maybe SDC should consider shortening the queue area for Thunderation.  Honestly, the long zigzag sidewalk isn't really necessary anymore.  They could take that out, push the entrance back, and put something else there.

Another favorite theme aspect of SDC for me is the Fireman's Cemetery next to the queue for FITH.  The epitaphs are so quirky and entertaining!  :P
 
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Old Guy on April 04, 2008, 02:34:01 PM
the Fireman's Cemetery is the old cue line for FITH, but hasen't been used as such after the first two years.
Is the Buggywheel of fortune still around?
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: History Buff on April 04, 2008, 05:46:13 PM
The thing about Thunderation is that you're in line while making your walk - you just don't realize it.  That makes the actual standing time less, so maybe that's a good thing.  It does cut down on the theming elements, though.  I love the lines being so short, but they also make us miss much of that theming that everybody's talking about.  Even in FitH, we now wait outside the building and don't snake inside at all, where the explanation of the Baldknobbers is located.  (While on FitH, it's a great feature to actually have the live dalmation, don't you think?).

It takes away from the ride, in my opinion, for there to be no wait, no set-up, no anticipation.  Waiting allows riders to get nervous and excited and then the ride provides a carthartic release.  It's part of the ride.  I know I'm weird, but the one time I had to wait for Wildfire and had to go through the overflow line upstairs.  There are more invention sketches and optical illusions up there to see, and we miss them all when the lines are too short.  (While on WF, is the big bubble "aquarium" really supposed to be fed by turning the wheels?  If not, shouldn't it be?)  I love it when the giant bubble fills the diameter of the tank.)

I think I saw the Buggywheel of Fortune.  If it's the same one, it's in the restaurant at the left corner of Main Street.  I think it's used to help make a decision about which food to order.  It's just not the same, but at least they didn't just trash it.  I may be wrong, but I don't think there's one in the old location since Wildfire was introduced.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Swoosh on April 04, 2008, 06:24:33 PM
it's a great feature to actually have the live dalmation

The dog's name is Buckets and she belongs to the ride lead.  She is only there on Saturdays.

is the big bubble "aquarium" really supposed to be fed by turning the wheels? 

No, the wheels do nothing to the aquarium.  The bubble pattern is set on a timer that loops

I may be wrong, but I don't think there's one in the old location since Wildfire was introduced.

The wagon wheel was originally located near the Ice House near American Plunge.  Last time I checked there is no longer one there.  It was a "wheel of fortune" then.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: History Buff on April 04, 2008, 06:26:56 PM
I guess that confirms the wheel was relocated to the skillet place on Main.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: shavethewhales on April 04, 2008, 06:30:01 PM

is the big bubble "aquarium" really supposed to be fed by turning the wheels? 

No, the wheels do nothing to the aquarium.  The bubble pattern is set on a timer that loops



So much wasted energy... You know, they could light half the park just by hooking up those wheel to a generator and letting the kids go at em'. As far as I've seen, the fact that the wheels have no effect on the bubbles does nothing to stop them from endlessly going at them.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: History Buff on April 04, 2008, 06:34:16 PM
It would be cool to wire the lights inside the queue building to these "generators" and have them dim and brighten depending on how hard the wheels are being turned.  It would contribute to the inventor theme.  Cool idea.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Swoosh on April 04, 2008, 09:27:12 PM
One important thing about the theme at SDC that you guys have seemed to overlook is how SDC honors long time employees and important people by naming things after them or making signs and whatnots and whathaveyas with their name on them as decorations.  Two new ones were installed this last year in the PowderKeg load station.

This is much like how Disney honors people with their "windows" on Main Street
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Copper on April 04, 2008, 11:26:52 PM
Yah, I think someone posted about that on another post. My friend Uncle Gene’s is on the well near the Homestead.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Joy on April 05, 2008, 12:12:03 AM
Yeah, aren't some of the gravestones outside FitH bearing names of longtime employees?

Terry Sanders has himself an election campaign poster outside of Mary's Springhouse, near the fountain/waterfall. It even includes his character's name as the campaign manager.

Huh... I could have sworn that I'd seen the wheel of fortune near WF... When would it have been that it was moved?

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: sdcforever on April 05, 2008, 09:49:51 AM
No, the wheels do nothing to the aquarium.  The bubble pattern is set on a timer that loops
I always wondered that.  I don't care that it does nothing, though.  Even if there's no line I still stop to spin one of the wheels.  It's fun, and I love it when the pressure reaches the max and it fills with bubbles!  ;D

The wagon wheel was originally located near the Ice House near American Plunge.  Last time I checked there is no longer one there.  It was a "wheel of fortune" then.
I miss the wheel of fortune.  :'(  We would make a point to visit it at least once a day when we came to SDC.  We would each take turns and compare fortunes.  I've been inside the Main St. Eatery where it is currently housed and it's just not the same.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: History Buff on April 05, 2008, 09:53:58 AM
Mike Hutchinson's (spelling?) "sign" is in Flooded Mine - a gravestone that spins to his name when shot.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Swoosh on April 05, 2008, 10:04:20 AM
Huh... I could have sworn that I'd seen the wheel of fortune near WF... When would it have been that it was moved?

Unless it is still there, which I cannot confirm right now, it would have been moved this past season
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: History Buff on April 05, 2008, 10:06:51 AM
I used to stand at the Waterclock for long periods of time to watch it work.  I don't think it still has all the movements that it used to.  It used to do more than just tell the current time and establish the 1880s time period.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Joy on April 05, 2008, 12:00:24 PM
Huh... I could have sworn that I'd seen the wheel of fortune near WF... When would it have been that it was moved?

Unless it is still there, which I cannot confirm right now, it would have been moved this past season

Ah, well, then that makes sense. Last time I was at SDC was last April. So, by the time I make it back down there, it'll have been an entire year since I've been there. One can imagine just how anxious I am to be there.

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: marolinesdad on April 05, 2008, 02:51:46 PM
I saw the Wheel next to the Duplicating Lathe on opening day.   
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Coaster on April 06, 2008, 09:27:56 PM
This is also a really neat theming element that is pretty cool. I bet you guys know exacly where it is though.

EDIT: You may need to click on it. I'm just trying to figure out this Attaching Files thing.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: History Buff on April 07, 2008, 11:55:54 AM
Yes, I've been waiting for a picture of that tree - something I remember from way back.

(I found that I can post full size pics if they're on Photobucket (and probably other services).)
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: sdcforever on April 09, 2008, 04:30:25 PM
I love the Ozark Water Tree.  One of the best examples of SDC's great theming.  8)
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Joy on April 09, 2008, 05:11:40 PM
Unfortunately, for some reason I can't see your pic(s), Coaster.

I'm trying to organize a daytrip to SDC for sometime really soon. I'm thinking I might keep my camcorder at home, or I'll bring it, but not focus on videotaping this time around; I'll have plenty of opportunities this year (since I won those SDC passes, I plan on going as much as possible). So, I'm gonna try focusing on taking pictures (in between riding rides, of course, LOL) this time. Now that I have a digital camera and a 2gb memory card, I can get 630 pics at the highest size (6 megapixels). At 3mp, I can get 1100-odd pics, and at 1mp I can get 4400-odd pics.

So, I'm gonna be snappin' like crazy the next time I go, so I'm hoping to capture as many theming elements as possible.

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Coaster on April 09, 2008, 05:33:52 PM
^Don't worry about it Joy. It's probably my fault you can't view the photos. I'm going to start putting it on the site like other people do, by uploading it onto Photobucket and then putting it on here.

I hope you have fun on your trip. All your photos and videos come out great so it will be exciting to see it.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: shavethewhales on April 09, 2008, 07:09:20 PM
Yeah, sorry about the forum photo issue, this forum system just isn't made for photo TR's or anything, which is why I wanted to get PHPBB, but this was a lot easier in the long run.

Eventually you'll all be able to just upload them to the main site yourselves though, so that will be much easier.

Can't wait to see your photos Joy.
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Joy on April 09, 2008, 10:12:18 PM
Yeah, I'd definitely go with Photobucket for now. I have three accounts on there. The first two were because at the beginning, PB didn't have a lot of space or bandwidth for a single account, so I made a second one when my first filled up. But now they've been adding space and bandwidth like crazy, even for the free members, so it's pretty great. My third account is dedicated solely to SDC so that I can keep things all in one place.

I can't wait to get down to SDC. I've been getting really antsy recently. I need a vacation, badly. And it's been an entire year since the last time I was at SDC, so it feels like I'm going through a kind of withdrawal. LOL

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: sdcforever on April 11, 2008, 04:16:20 PM
^I know what you mean about SDC withdrawal, and it's only been 5 months for me! :)  I can't wait to see your photos!  Have a great time, and stay cool!  8)
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Swoosh on April 19, 2008, 11:03:10 PM
Huh... I could have sworn that I'd seen the wheel of fortune near WF... When would it have been that it was moved?

Unless it is still there, which I cannot confirm right now, it would have been moved this past season

Ah, well, then that makes sense. Last time I was at SDC was last April. So, by the time I make it back down there, it'll have been an entire year since I've been there. One can imagine just how anxious I am to be there.


I can confirm that the wheel is still there or has returned.  Made a special trip over to that area of the park just so I could see if it was there -- took a picture for you Joy and I will try to get it online tomorrow (SUN) for you. :D
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: Joy on April 20, 2008, 12:26:27 AM
:D Aw, thanks! I'm so glad it's still there. It's not exactly the most significant thing in the park, but it's just one of those things that makes your trip all the more fun.

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: Theming
Post by: sdcforever on April 20, 2008, 05:44:07 PM
I can confirm that the wheel is still there or has returned.  Made a special trip over to that area of the park just so I could see if it was there -- took a picture for you Joy and I will try to get it online tomorrow (SUN) for you. :D

That's great news for me too!  ;D  I love the wheel of fortune and was sad to hear that it might be gone for good.  We make special visits to it every time we're at SDC, so when we visit soon we can continue that tradition.  Can't wait to see the picture!  :)