I could go with a refurbishment of Fire in the Hole and the Flooded Mine. To update FITH they would probably have to demolish the ride and rebuild it, I think this needs to be done.
A brand new show in which the lumberjacks get in on the action. They dance on the "root beer barrels", throw axes, climb to the second level, and do other lumberjack stunts.
I'd think it'd be pretty easy to theme it to the park, along the lines of crazy inventions like Wildfire and PowderKeg.
QuoteI'd think it'd be pretty easy to theme it to the park, along the lines of crazy inventions like Wildfire and PowderKeg.
For the record, PK's theme is not a crazy invention; it is based around the mining of bat guano from Marvel Cave for the purpose of manufacturing explosives for the mines.
Hillbilly Hollow. It's a place full of nothing but front porches, hound dogs, and XXX jugs. The centerpiece a moonshine still that looks like Cinderella's castle. What do you do in Hillbilly Hollow? Sit on the front porch with your hat over your eyes. (I'm hoping this is a no smoking area.)
Now to revise a previous idea:QuoteHillbilly Hollow. It's a place full of nothing but front porches, hound dogs, and XXX jugs. The centerpiece a moonshine still that looks like Cinderella's castle. What do you do in Hillbilly Hollow? Sit on the front porch with your hat over your eyes. (I'm hoping this is a no smoking area.)
How about making this a WiFi area where folks could sip coffee and bring their laptops to enjoy the internet in a nature setting. I could see myself doing some research or using the setting as the inspiration to the Great American Novel.
Would anyone else LOG on (Get it? Can't you see the logo?) at the park?
I have wanted SDC’s registers to look like that computer on the Wikipedia Steampunk page for a long time. I hate the way those huge boxy computers look in all the shops.
My idea is a rollercoaster over Lake Silver, that actually plunges under water! And I'm gonna get the CEO of Herschend to send me to school to design it!
Oh... wait... someone beat me to it?
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How about a James Gang or Jesse James ride?! Maybe a coaster like FITH where you ride through robberies and shootouts? The coaster would go right down the middle of shootouts with the James Gang on one side and law enforcement on the other. It starts with Jesse in Quantrills guerrillas and ends with his last hold-up.
Or...
maybe something like a Quantrill or Border Wars ride where you go through battles and events like Quantrill's raid on Lawrence, Kansas!
^^I see, Junior. This could be SDC's version of Soarin' at EPCOT. Steampunk the coaches and allow them to fly through the old Ozarks before flying through the west.
Now for a name...
^^I see, Junior. This could be SDC's version of Soarin' at EPCOT. Steampunk the coaches and allow them to fly through the old Ozarks before flying through the west.
Now for a name...
How about Stage-Coaster?
Duelist, pretty cool, huh? Wonder if they will somehow give you/SDCFans credit here?
If only that silly cave wouldn’t have established itself in the middle of the Ozark hills so many years ago! :D
We really thought the saw blade was going to cut our cart in half, and that the explosion would really flood us completely. It was a dark ride well done, not just a carnival amusement.
Oh come on okie! You know its much more practical to rush into a new attraction than to repair, or revamp what is already in place. ;)
I just reread this thread. I could see a rehab of Flooded Mine but with 3d effects. Same could be done with a New Diving Bell with 3d effects.
The whole splash harbor needs redone.
Why didn't they move the ferris wheel to Grand Expo from Celebration City.
Why didn't they move the ferris wheel to Grand Expo from Celebration City.
From what I've heard, we're in the midst of a 3 project boom. The first is the smallest budget of the three. The next after this might include some relocated rides along with something else. The final one is the big whopper and had been rumored for years.
From what I've heard, we're in the midst of a 3 project boom. The first is the smallest budget of the three. The next after this might include some relocated rides along with something else. The final one is the big whopper and had been rumored for years.
CHange the flooded mine by...... taking out the guns?
Us old folks on here remember what it used to be like. No guns, just different scenes that you would see as you floated through. We have talked at length on here about how the guns seem to take away from the charm of the old ride. You can't hear what the characters are saying and the constant sound of the guns is just annoying.
That said, they should at least make sure the annimatronics(sp?) are all working on a consistent basis
I wish the balloon ride would make a reappearance in Grand Expo. I think it would fit that area well.
A spinner would work well with the Icehouse theming as well. Some parts can be indoor and other outdoor, low sections hat bend and curve can be a tunnel. I like the Mack ones where you sit back to back. Would give better views.
Oh wow! That ride looks amazing! The only "theming" you get for Spinning Dragons at Worlds of Fun is some nice landscaping.
I also wish SDC had a ride like Cyclone Sam's. It's probably the best-themed ride of all of WoF's rides.
EDIT: I just realized that spinning coaster is totally different from Spinning Dragons in terms of the cars. That's awesome!
I have looked at the ozark wild cat on google earth and also taken a screen shot of the area in between wildfire and powder keg, I'd love to see them move the ozark wild cat over to SDC and I think the area would be a perfect fit! Put a 3rd coaster over, theme it up to be more of a doc-harris themed woodie. Lumber camp would be just down the hill, play into the the theme of the waterfall and put in a few new shops/attractions, and complete the already existing maintenance loop between the two big coasters and the ozark wild cat lays perfectly in there. Maybe some smaller adult thrill rides in the area between wildfire and powder keg and then you are out to the maintenance road. (http://i43.tinypic.com/10oqxyb.jpg)
I don't think you're going to make OzCat fit anywhere at SDC easily - notice how small the station buildings are in that photo compared to Wildfire's due to the difference in size of the OzCat inlay. In reality, you'd have to bulldoze most of that corner of the park to make it fit.
It's not worth it anyway, I really like what they're doing now with an original design that fits the terrain.
As for AP, I think I'm more and more becoming OK with the idea of it getting completely taken down and replaced with a new water ride with a similar theme. There's no way the ride is going to be restored to it's former glory at this point, and it kind of need to just be put out of it's misery. The new Mack superflume/water coaster things are interesting, but really not that great. They do make some more traditional flumes that could be utilized creatively though.
If the powers that be put a ferris wheel at Grand Exposition, it would lift up passengers above the tree height, and right there in your 1880's experience you would get a clear view of the intersection of Indian Point Road and Highway 76 and all that traffic. A ferris wheel is fine, but maybe they could place it somewhere on park so we don't have to see traffic going by. Some people would not care...after all you get a wonderful view of condos on Table Rock at Wilderness Church and the viewing platform at Wildfire...plus from the cars on the track at Wildfire and Powder Keg. It's just the way it is...well, EXCEPT back in Miss Mary's time...but we are NOT in her time anymore as we have discussed here many times before. ;)
I think its kinda tacky....I would not want that to reside at the city...
I think its kinda tacky....I would not want that to reside at the city...
I agree with Trams. It looks a bit tacky to me. Besides, wagons are sooo impractical in these hills! ;D
Let's just bring back our old balloons. That would make me a happy camper :)
Maybe they'll have somewhere near the new coaster for the balloons.
NO FERRIS WHEEL!!! ICK!!! GAG!!! I am serious. I hate those things.
NO FERRIS WHEEL!!! ICK!!! GAG!!! I am serious. I hate those things.
NO FERRIS WHEEL!!! ICK!!! GAG!!! I am serious. I hate those things.
I hate them too! I'm afraid of heights, so that's why I hate them. As long as I keep moving, like rollercoasters and stuff I'm fine, but as soon as I get stopped at the top, that's it for me!! No thank you!
Thanks chittlins. I got a good chuckle outta that ;D. Ferris wheels are just plumb unsafe. I am with Tiff. I am scared to death of them and elevators. But that is another issue. I dont mind roller coasters in fact love them but I do not like ferris wheels
I think they should get the blue prints out for the original Float Trip and bring it back to it's original glory. Then for a twist leave the plunge part in, and then at the end let each boat have a choice to take the plunge or just go back to the dock. In other words get wet or stay dry.I love that idea Pintrader!
Buzz Saw Falls Part II? Hmmm...not really, just no half coaster/ half flume. I got a kick that pics of Buzzsaw Falls is still on the manufacturers web page.
I like this idea more as a dark ride. I think Shave came up with a concept for a boat ride, but it could be an indoor coaster, too. "Creature on the Creek" which explores the legend of MoMo the Monster, also known as Bigfoot. Plenty of Bigfoot sightings over the years in OK, AR, and MO! So it fits right in with an Ozark theme.
Uh uh no way. That thing had an ELEVATOR!!! No way would I get on that thing. Yuck o!!!
I'm not a huge fan of the new Intamin flumes (ie, the one with the weird elevator). Seems like a lot of flash with little improvement on the ride experience, and the drops are pretty lame. Whoever built the new one at Klotten (ABC?) did a good job though - that one actually looks fun.I miss the "falling" outhouse.
I'm a much bigger fan of the old heavily themed Hopkins flumes with the upgraded boats like DW's flume. For SDC, I hope they keep it simple and just theme the heck out of it with a really imaginative theme, basically like what AP used to be like.
Uh uh no way. That thing had an ELEVATOR!!! No way would I get on that thing. Yuck o!!!
Is there anything you like?
The picture in the middle kinda reminds me of The Mystery Mine at DW.
What about like a moon car ride and throughout the ride there could be like old Moonshining Distillaries, you could pass through an old bridge that goes over a creek, then a couple cabins with animatronics pickin their banjos on the front porch.
We don't want anything by Gravity Group in our park.
We don't want anything by Gravity Group in our park.I don't know about you but that looked liked like some crazy ass fun stuff to me. Probably knocks the crap out of you but I love the premise. What is your objection Swoosh?
QuoteWe don't want anything by Gravity Group in our park.I don't know about you but that looked liked like some crazy ass fun stuff to me. Probably knocks the crap out of you but I love the premise. What is your objection Swoosh?
QuoteWe don't want anything by Gravity Group in our park.I don't know about you but that looked liked like some crazy ass fun stuff to me. Probably knocks the crap out of you but I love the premise. What is your objection Swoosh?
I agree that that looked fun. Short, and I am not a fan of out-and-back rides, but still very fun.
I don't know what was up with the wait times after the lifts. Throughput could be much better.
We don't want anything by Gravity Group in our park.
We don't want anything by Gravity Group in our park.
I think a custom themed Vekoma family inverted coaster would work for the ICE HOUSE.
WDW is currently working on one themed to Monsters Inc for their Hollywood park.
Inverted as "hanging" from the track. That's what inverted means. Looping means, well it goes upside down.
Not sure what company you are talking about that has the spinning suspended coaster. The link you had is not a spinning suspended coaster, it was the halfpipe that was Sega Joyland.
Oh you mean a POWERED turn. My mistake. I was thinking that you meant a normal spinning coaster that was under the train that spins via physics not by being turned by computer.it can be controlled or spins freely according to Mack. I think EuroMir at Europa is controlled where as Sierra Sidewinder at Knotts is free spin. Same premise, just hanging from the rails.
So here's one that could be a seasonal offering.
At Disney during the Fall, we take the old horse-drawn buggies out of storage and offer a nighttime tour of the back 40 of Fort Wilderness Campground (waaaay away from the campers) with nothing but the moonlight shining by the lake. That is until the headless horseman actually follows you and gallops right alongside your buggy!
It would be pretty awesome to crank up the old Butterfield stagecoaches once again and have a similar theme to it with maybe the exception of an old outlaw....or maybe a ghost mailman delivering a love letter and theme it to the pony express (since that started in St. Joe, Mo).
A ride like "The Haunted Mansion", featuring ghost stories from Randolph might be fun.
A ride like "The Haunted Mansion", featuring ghost stories from Randolph might be fun.
Oooo... I like that! SDC really does need some sort of PeopleMover-type ride to help ease the flow of crowds. It would also add to the very small amount of rides that people of any age can ride.
in NE Missouri, near Louisiana.
It's a similar story to the (in)famous (cue The Three Amigos) Legend of Boggy Creek in Arkansas, which also originated in the late 1960s.
in NE Missouri, near Louisiana.
Ummm... what? Did I miss a joke, or did they move Louisiana?QuoteIt's a similar story to the (in)famous (cue The Three Amigos) Legend of Boggy Creek in Arkansas, which also originated in the late 1960s.
I'm very familiar with that one, since Fouke is about 15 miles from where I sit.
http://www.louisiana-mo.com/v1/
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That was where Mark Twain was born.
I gurantee you, that the CC property will not be touched until 465 is completed.
Ummm... Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands aren't "foreign"; they're US Territories. In fact, Puerto Rico voted this election to pass a petition for statehood. If all goes well, it should be our 51st state soon.
Attraction-wise, I'll forever and always restate my opinion that SDC needs a "People Mover" ride.
Puerto Rico will not be a state anytime soon.
Puerto Rico will not be a state anytime soon.
Don't hold your breath. Sounds like it is being fast-tracked
(Puerto Rico) should be our 51st state soon.
(Puerto Rico) should be our 51st state soon.
Nope, just the 50th. "West" Virginia is not legally a state. ;)
Six Flags in St. Louis had an attraction I remember from when I was a kid that was called "Tom's Twister" that essentially was a centrifuge people stood in that whirled them around and around in. The force of being spun around pinned them to the walls. It was durn scary looking and as a kid, I refused to ride it. I was probably too little to do so anyway. Anyone remember that one?
^ I agree!
I wish they would just take a year and fix/update/re-new some of the classic attractions.
I don't care to see a new attraction, but I wish they would bring back the Plunge to it's earlier glory, and spruce up Fire In The Hole and Flooded Mine.
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I think we all agree with that.... just imaginw what a million or 2 million dollars worth of repairs and revamping would do... ;D
YES. I want something more exciting at the bridge again. I miss having the falling bridge ceiling.
When you said vertical drop, in my mind I was seeing one of those drops where you tilt over, like this coaster -- http://rcdb.com/1357.htm?p=0 -- and was wondering how exactly FITH could be altered for something like that.
But that drop on Verbolten seems like something that could actually be put on FITH. And ha! The look on that guy's face when it drops! LOL!
The only thing I'm not big on of renovating Fire in the Hole is the fact that some of the classic figures of it would be taken away and replaced with spangled new stuff. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but one factor I love about that ride is the outdated animatronics that make it cheesy, but very "SDC-esque".
I think FITH and Flooded Mine are two attractions that you just don't touch. You can "refresh" but the suggestions on how to "fix it" are out of line. If you want something like what you are suggesting, then build a new attraction all together.
Also I don't care if your kids are bored with it or not. Kids are into instant gratification nowadays and no matter what changes you make they'll get bored with it. Shoot they'll probably get bored with OR too after a few circuits.
\I think FITH and Flooded Mine are two attractions that you just don't touch. You can "refresh" but the suggestions on how to "fix it" are out of line. If you want something like what you are suggesting, then build a new attraction all together.
Also I don't care if your kids are bored with it or not. Kids are into instant gratification nowadays and no matter what changes you make they'll get bored with it. Shoot they'll probably get bored with OR too after a few circuits.
I absolutely agree! I don't want modern technology - I want it the way it used to be or better. It can't be that tough to spruce it up and fix broken parts.
Null and Void? Are you always an ass or are you just on your monthly cycle... You must be one of those people that has all the good ideas and no one else's would ever work. Remind you that BF is 35 years old... The CONCEPT of BF's moving parts is what puts it above FITH... The fact that the Yetti malfunctions on Expidition Everest at least 50% of the time does not stop Disney from putting animatronics like it in their rides, it just means that they do in better next time.
The story on FITH is great, The ride needs updating. Waxing Nostalgic isn't going to help. I fear in a few years, we'll be dicussing FITH in the same terms of the Diving Bell. But like I said, we need more enclosed attractions/rides at SDC due to it's extended operating season in a vert fickle climate.
;DOh, and Frank Haith......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
The story on FITH is great, The ride needs updating. Waxing Nostalgic isn't going to help. I fear in a few years, we'll be dicussing FITH in the same terms of the Diving Bell. But like I said, we need more enclosed attractions/rides at SDC due to it's extended operating season in a vert fickle climate.
;DOh, and Frank Haith......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I agree FITH and The Flooded mine need to be updated in a bad way. Keep the basic storyline but spruce it up. Someone mentioned older Disney attractions that have been kept. You have to also remember Disney keeps some current also. The upgrades to Pirates of the Caribbean for example brought the attraction new life. They are currently working to upgrade and refurbish Splash Mountain. The Snow White attraction was closed and a new Snow White themed coaster was recently opened. Mr. Toad was closed to make way for Winny the Pooh ride. The haunted Mansion has upgrades in the finale and scenes have been upgraded.
Take for instance poor old grandfathers mansion. This is just plain ugly and a worn out 1970's gravity house. It has to many coats of paint and just reeks of ugly. The moat in front of FM is overrun with Algee .
Point is you have to move ahead or die. I remember these attractions in their prime. Would I miss them if they were replaced with something more appealing and modern? Nope not a bit.
;DOh, and Frank Haith......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
;DOh, and Frank Haith......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
What does this even mean?
Move ahead of die?? What do you think WF, PK and OR is? What do you think GE is? They dont need to ax classics. Hell I could say my dear grams has too many coats of paint. Does that mean I want to get rid of her? No. She is a classic and fun ta boot. I dont think the point of an attraction should be what does it do? How many bells and whistles does it have? It is about what kind of memories does this make? Does this add to valuable time I can spend with my kid? Thinking back now I dont remember the suped up awesome roller coasters. I dont remember the latest and greatest technology this or that had. I remember the fun I had with my family. Going through GM actin a fool. Riding FM a bajillion times. Going down some corrogated metal pipes (Which I think Junior placed as leftovers from the DB.)^what she says!
;DOh, and Frank Haith......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
What does this even mean?
Appears your coach is headed for a Show Cause penalty from the NCAA.
Maybe we can get SDC to hire him as a real, in the flesh, Baldknobber with a bag over his head.
;DOh, and Frank Haith......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
What does this even mean?
Appears your coach is headed for a Show Cause penalty from the NCAA.
Maybe we can get SDC to hire him as a real, in the flesh, Baldknobber with a bag over his head.
I'm failing to see how this adds to the discussion. It appears like a desperate grasping of straws to solicit a response from me... and if that is the case, that is pretty pathetic and very unbecoming of you.
Can't help it when I see that avatar of yours.
I have an on topic response!
I know everybody (including myself) has had many memories of Tom and Hucks Hideaway (the treehouse) but lets face it, with todays's ADA laws, and the fact that it would not be a huge marketing hook, it will never be brought back to life... I think it would be neat to continue in the Mid Town tradition and add a demonstrating craft shop.... With an indoor flat ride! I know... It's hard to imagine, but let me paint you a picture. You take the wooden tops that the street performers sell and turn it into a hands on, decorate your own, hand spun wooden top. In the middle of theis Merch/Craft shop you have a custom themed, park model, Chance Wipeout.
http://www.wildadventures.com/RidesAttractions/Rides/tabid/406/Ride/42/sidewinder/Default.aspx
Interactive crafts, demonstrating craftsmen, and a thrill ride all in a beautiful SDC Building!
I have an on topic response!
I know everybody (including myself) has had many memories of Tom and Hucks Hideaway (the treehouse) but lets face it, with todays's ADA laws, and the fact that it would not be a huge marketing hook, it will never be brought back to life... I think it would be neat to continue in the Mid Town tradition and add a demonstrating craft shop.... With an indoor flat ride! I know... It's hard to imagine, but let me paint you a picture. You take the wooden tops that the street performers sell and turn it into a hands on, decorate your own, hand spun wooden top. In the middle of theis Merch/Craft shop you have a custom themed, park model, Chance Wipeout.
http://www.wildadventures.com/RidesAttractions/Rides/tabid/406/Ride/42/sidewinder/Default.aspx
Interactive crafts, demonstrating craftsmen, and a thrill ride all in a beautiful SDC Building!
I think if they put a diving bell simulator building on the site of the old Waterboggin, and built a fake "tunnel" with a water feature that allowed for a fake diving bell top like there used to be at the old attraction to pass back and forth in the tunnel, it could be believable enough and would link the new building to the lake. Build the fake tunnel so it appeared that a capsule passed from the building, under the current kiddie playground area, to the lake. Another way to do this could be with the film shown in the simulator. The diving bell could be at the top of a flooded sinkhole, and just sink into a passage that gos to the lake. They could still put a fake diving bell top on the lake edge to make it appear the capusles were in the lake.
I think if they do the Diving Bell it needs to be where Splash Harbor was. That way it has good visibility across the lake. You'll have to go through Geyser Gulch to get to it... Geyser Gulch should probably be in the name somehow.
With todays technology a new diving bell attraction at SDC would be G-R-E-A-T!!! I bet it would cost ten times what the original attraction cost to build! (About $1.5 million.)
Oh, I dunno. The refurb of Star Tours is AMAZING. Every ride is different. So much so that my friend and I rode it *8* times in one day, and we still have not seen all of the combos. Also, the 3D in it is magnificent; the glasses they use a wonderful, and the 3D is SO clear.
I think a new Diving Bell with 3D and maybe a randomized mix of elements like the new Star Tours could be something incredible.
I think this would be the ultimate solution to the abandoned waterfall/CC ride situation. I know some of you don't want RF to come to the city, but if they do it right, it could look something like this. Think of the classic float trip on top of the hill with a surprise ending down the waterfall behind Lumbercamp. The queue line could take the classic route under the waterfall and up the hill behind the jerky shop. The station could be up there as well with the lift hill being at the end of the ride... Lumbercamp Falls!
This isn't an attraction idea but the leftover concrete trenches from Buzzsaw falls need to be filled in with dirt an maybe plant some flowers on top. It looks really ugly from the queue and on the ride.
I'd like another roller coaster "The Western Shot"
Starts out going up a 150 foot lift hill, then a turn right, then straight down. After that, you go through a series of fast turns and inversions.
My family had a lot of fun on the waterboggin'. We hated to see it go, especially if it wasn't going to be replaced with something right away. I would have like to have tried the Diving Bell and the Jim Owen's Float Trip before it was taken out.
Riverfront Playhouse experiences its most dramatic transformation yet. We're not utilizing the space as a theater any more, so let's think creatively:
1. Strip the interior and start laying the track for Silver Dollar City's newest dark ride.
2. Make this into the new 4D theater. Go West!: the Incredible True Story of Lewis and Clark.
I don't know how the queue would work, but there is a little space there with which to work.
^I've always noticed that space, but it's been a long time since we talked about it on here. It's a perfect space for a ride because it's a great amount of space tucked away behind things.
Just throwing this out there: I'd personally look into putting something like a HUSS Top Spin there (or rather, one of the Zamperla/KMG variants that might be more reliable). It could be oriented so that the back is facing the train depot so that side isn't disruptive to the depot atmosphere, and themed to a sawmill. Here's Talocan at Phantasialand, which we've brought up a few times before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEmHHqBrnQM
^I've always noticed that space, but it's been a long time since we talked about it on here. It's a perfect space for a ride because it's a great amount of space tucked away behind things.
Just throwing this out there: I'd personally look into putting something like a HUSS Top Spin there (or rather, one of the Zamperla/KMG variants that might be more reliable). It could be oriented so that the back is facing the train depot so that side isn't disruptive to the depot atmosphere, and themed to a sawmill. Here's Talocan at Phantasialand, which we've brought up a few times before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEmHHqBrnQM
Heve you seen the Zamperla Air Race concept that rises up high. It was shown at a presentation that they gave to try and manage that place up in New York.
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Anyways, IAPPA starts soon, i'll go cooky over the new ideas, like to attend that one of these days.
Wow!
It sounds like you have your themes confused. SDC is not about the oldies or 50s. It's not a park about Christian rock bands. It's not about contortion shows, stunt shows, etc. SDC is a romanticized version of the 1880s. Some of the things you tout are the very things that most of us cringe at - the loss of the true theme. Bluegrass music would be the heart of the type of music that would have been played in the hills - certainly not Skillet. The part is and should be about history, heritage, and faith. While pushing the limits on presentation, those things constitute the soul of Silver Dollar City. All of your carnival rides will make SDC like every traveling street carnival in the world and divert the attention from the beauty and the rustic charm of Silver Dollar City. The theme has not been controverted, but we can agree that it has been expanded and in some cases diluted to include the time period but not necessarily the location.
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Well put, thanks HB!!
7. Chinese shows are always good and very interesting.
13. A scary, sideshow, freak show. Where people do weird tricks with their body.
Ok ok.... I hopefully just thought of a show that we would all like to see just now. There used to be a small stage in midtown that now has a wagon on it. Back in the 1800s and 1900s there were a lot of traveling salesmen. Some selling tonic, the were called Medicine Men, and some were more like Rainmakers. I looked this up. I heard there used to be something like this in SDC a long time ago. The medicine man usually said, "Come one, come all! I have just invented a magic tonic that can cure any ailment and it will make you live longer." This sounds like a really good character and show i want to see. It would be very short. He isnt really selling anything and its just a small, brown bottle of water.
They can also do a Rainmaker like show where he has 1 kid put 1 foot in a round metal pan on the ground and a stick in her hand. He tells her to hold it high and say a chant like, Ooya Ooya Rain come here today! Then he flips a switch behind a curtain in the wagon and water comes out of 2 sprinklers on top of the wagon.
There should be a halloween festival with a scary ride or haunted house. During this festival, there should be a casket in place of the wagon. He says there is a 6 bedroom, 3 bath house underground and the casket is the elevator. He chooses a man to go inside and he closes the door. Once he does a hooded figure opens the back door and taps him on the shoulder to switch places. He then asks are you done looking yet and tells everyone to come up close. He opens the door and the hooded figure jumps out, scaring everyone. Then he goes back inside, closes the door, switches places with the man, the man comes back out, and the hooded figure stays behind the casket where he cant be seen.
I know not all of you will agree with the halloween part but the Rainmaker and medicine man show are very good ideas because they were very popular back then. Btw, i do TRY to stick with the theme all the time but i want to see the things come back that i grew up with. I also think they can add stuff to the park that would make it a lot better, and im tired of them trying to change the theme to a cowboy theme. The old theme is not bad but if you want to change it, dont change it to a cowboy theme.
Doing halloween is a terrible idea. Number one, part of the allure of SDC is the Christian atmosphere and emphasis. Halloween does not fit in to this at all. Many Christians do not celebrate Halloween and this will certainly hurt them. Number two, look at the customer they target. While it is always a family park, you see so many older people there during the fall. You take away the fall fest, you take away all of that money. And those people spend money and lots of it. How would you market a Halloween festival to a bus full of seventy year olds?
Laroy, you are cracking me up. You're all over the place. Hey, the restrooms aren't in theme. They should only have outhouses with leaves and corncobs to wipe with. And maybe there should be a ride based on it, because they had poop in the 1880s!
You keep talking about what SDC is supposed to have, as if there are laws about these things. The bottom line is SDC is supposed to have whatever their owners and directors decide they will have. I know they want to appeal to the masses, but SDC is also a labor of love, and they want it to exude a particular mood and feel. I've never seen electric guitars in any of the photos from the 19th Century.
Now, to be clear, this thread needs to get back on topic. If you wish to discuss these peripheral topics, you need to find another thread. There is no reason to hijack threads for redundant conversations.
Now back on topic.
What about a Renaissance themed area? Everybody loves knights, swords, and all that cool stuff. Kids would love getting knighted with the sword, or whatever you call it when they put the sword on your shoulder to make you an official knight. Jousting would also be nice....but some people would call it unsafe, even if they have professionals doing it. It doesnt have to be real, it just has to look real.
OMFG Swoosh! I do to!! Have you ever been? Branson is my 2nd home. Like I said before, I go almost every week.
As for crafts, I would like to see a salon and a shirt printing press.
Back to rides again: maybe some Tin Lizzy's cars or instead of cars, maybe plastic rocking horses. Also maybe some real horse rides.
Yes, but rebuilding the old rides or retheming, probably wont happen. Most of us want most of that, but we all know, it would be a miracle.
There are about 10 types of coasters, not including backwards/forwards: steel, wood, indoor, inverted, looping, wild mine, launched, dive, reinforced (i think they call a triangular track, a reinforced coaster), and i think thats it, maybe others but i cant remember the rest.
Welcome to the forum, Swoosh! If you have any questions about Branson and Silver Dollar City, please feel free to ask.
I was looking at lake silver yesterday and thinking that they really need to do something with it, of coarse thinking diving bell, or an underwater coaster like was suggested on Undercover Boss.
I was looking at lake silver yesterday and thinking that they really need to do something with it, of coarse thinking diving bell, or an underwater coaster like was suggested on Undercover Boss.
Can't do much there as the Lake is very close to the cave. Not much "cushion" between the two in that area. I would, however, like for the entrance to Lost River to be moved to inside Fireman's Landing. The entrance/exit boardwalk could go along the faux rock wall. That would really clean up the look of the Lake and open up the views from the dinning area by the Toy Store.
I was looking at lake silver yesterday and thinking that they really need to do something with it, of coarse thinking diving bell, or an underwater coaster like was suggested on Undercover Boss.
Can't do much there as the Lake is very close to the cave. Not much "cushion" between the two in that area. I would, however, like for the entrance to Lost River to be moved to inside Fireman's Landing. The entrance/exit boardwalk could go along the faux rock wall. That would really clean up the look of the Lake and open up the views from the dinning area by the Toy Store.
cacophony .
Can't do much there as the Lake is very close to the cave. Not much "cushion" between the two in that area. I would, however, like for the entrance to Lost River to be moved to inside Fireman's Landing. The entrance/exit boardwalk could go along the faux rock wall.I am not sure if I understand your idea. Do you mean to run the walkway around the back of the lake?
QuoteCan't do much there as the Lake is very close to the cave. Not much "cushion" between the two in that area. I would, however, like for the entrance to Lost River to be moved to inside Fireman's Landing. The entrance/exit boardwalk could go along the faux rock wall.I am not sure if I understand your idea. Do you mean to run the walkway around the back of the lake?
It could be a duck, dog, cowboy, water buffalo theme, or some other theme like that.
Again, if we are calling this Fireman's Landing, there should be a boat aspect to the area. I know it would take license with Ozarks history, but some sort of fire boat sitting in the lake, with fountains spraying from it might be an interesting addition. I don't know that it needs to be a ride, but it could be a cool fountain feature. Maybe it could even do a dancing fountain show at set times throughout the day. Light it up at night for a light and water show.
With enough viewing area, something like this could create a "mist-curtain" for a nightly projection presentation of the Bald Knobber history and tie the firefighter theme to FitH.
It could be a duck, dog, cowboy, water buffalo theme, or some other theme like that.
...or renaissance themed. ::)
It could be a duck, dog, cowboy, water buffalo theme, or some other theme like that.
...or renaissance themed. ::)
😂😂😂😂 stop it, you're making my sides hurt from laughing so hard
It could be a duck, dog, cowboy, water buffalo theme, or some other theme like that.
...or renaissance themed. ::)
😂😂😂😂 stop it, you're making my sides hurt from laughing so hard
Swoosh why are you laughing? Are you being sarcastic?
Thank you Hollywood for that Veggie Tales video! It really brought out the kid in me. I miss watching Veggie Tales. They are a great, christian show for kids. Now that Im thinking about them, I want them back in SDC.
Swoosh why are you laughing?
Tmboote, he's right...the Veggies were at SDC several years ago.
Ummm why was a Hound Dog thing posted? You all say that you dont want to hear Elvis songs in the park.
I never said Elvis was 1880 ozarks.
What? Ok, now you are just putting words in my mouth. I never took a picture of anything or put "Swoosh" on anything!
Ummm no swoosh. It looked like you were laughing at me. Buff commented after you quoted mine and DollarCityBoy's posts.So I said the wrong person - point still stands that the poster that I quoted (DollarCityBoy) said something humorous.... and you might want to check the emoticon that DollarCityBoy posted after his message. That would be an "eye roll"
Swoosh, if loving you is wrong, I don't want to be right. :D
How about we delete those posts between us and act like it never happened?
Swoosh, if loving you is wrong, I don't want to be right. :D
Let's be BFFs. No really, when are we going to finally meet up at the park?
And just so everyone knows, (in case my sarcasm didn't show), I really don't care about you talking about shows on this thread. I'm terrible at staying on topic on threads.
Elvis isn't exactly "1880s Ozarks," so I'm glad you cleared that up History Buff.
How about we delete those posts between us and act like it never happened?
Swoosh, if loving you is wrong, I don't want to be right. :D
Let's be BFFs. No really, when are we going to finally meet up at the park?
I believe that discussion belong in the 2015 Park Meet-Ups thread...... (Still kidding)
How about we delete those posts between us and act like it never happened?
Once it is on the internet - it can never be completely deleted.Swoosh, if loving you is wrong, I don't want to be right. :D
Let's be BFFs. No really, when are we going to finally meet up at the park?
I believe that discussion belong in the 2015 Park Meet-Ups thread...... (Still kidding)
Careful or we won't invite you. (I'm also still kidding)
And just so everyone knows, (in case my sarcasm didn't show), I really don't care about you talking about shows on this thread. I'm terrible at staying on topic on threads.
Elvis isn't exactly "1880s Ozarks," so I'm glad you cleared that up History Buff.
Man, this thread is lit up tonight! I can't even keep up with who's talking when. Sorry I didn't pick up on the sarcasm, Tmboote. Too many of us are employing that tool, this evening.
Imagine how confused I was when my iPad was messed up and showed Swoosh's profile picture on Laroy.
Swoosh: We met a couple of years ago, but just briefly. I think you were on a tour. I will be there, Wednesday or Thursday with the family.
I'll be there Sunday too.... This week can't go fast enough.Swoosh: We met a couple of years ago, but just briefly. I think you were on a tour. I will be there, Wednesday or Thursday with the family.
Did we? Sorry. I meet so many people during the summer/season from online that I don't always remember screen names with the people IRL. Let's plan on doing it again this summer. (I won't be back to the park until Sunday -- and then after that, not until 4/11)
My group will probably be decked out in Mizzou gear and I'm sure I'll have my camera tied to my face (especially in FL). If you see me, say hello (but make sure you ID yourself as being from SDCfans).
Tmboote: You'll have to look up to find Swoosh; he's got some height on him.
I'm 6'4" - yeah, that's probably in the realm of "tall"
Wait. There's was a topic?
Wait. There's was a topic?
Yeah, the Renaissance, remember?
You know. I think it would make a good theme for Silver Dollar City.
Nothing says Ozarks like knights running around in armor.
I like this already.
I plan on being there most of the day on Saturday and on Sunday morning. I will be on the train on saturday first, then FL almost all day after that. FL first on Sunday, then i dont know where i will go.
Look for a 5 foot, 11 inch red haired man in a "I Take Song Requests" shirt. I am the Good Music Man. Come up, say hi, mention SDCfans, and maybe we can hang out.
http://youtu.be/ltG37Bbx1qk
Awesome! Maybe they can do that. All they need to pay for is the buttons, pictures, shovels to make the pathway, wood chips, and the work. It wouldnt take more than a month.
Do you work in the park?
Awesome! Maybe they can do that. All they need to pay for is the buttons, pictures, shovels to make the pathway, wood chips, and the work. It wouldnt take more than a month.
Do you work in the park?
I wish the waterfall trail was still open.
No need for a new attraction then - NEW for 2016: Slide the Sinkhole has a nice ring to it.
Adding some stuff to ThuNderaTion would be easy, and would make that ride really pop.
QuoteAdding some stuff to ThuNderaTion would be easy, and would make that ride really pop.
I agree with you but have never considered what could be done to Thunderation. What ideas do you have?
QuoteAdding some stuff to ThuNderaTion would be easy, and would make that ride really pop.
I agree with you but have never considered what could be done to Thunderation. What ideas do you have?
I'm just going to throw this out there without any explanation as to why this happened (and no I will not explain why so don't ask)
The theming on ThuNderaTion (the camp scene) has been removed and will not be coming back. There were some other theming elements during the course of the ride that have been removed as well, but unless you're very familiar with the ride they won't be as obvious as the removal of the camp. Its removal basically eliminates the entire backstory of the ride.
That is all, carry on
I guess chittlins is mocking those of us who thought the camp thing was a big deal, and that's fine.(https://38.media.tumblr.com/72206080d678ae035bc637c37042ba42/tumblr_n3u2bjw8U01tul3z0o2_500.gif)
It has a steep learning curve on how to get it to flip. Not overly fun unless you figure it outE
I guess chittlins is mocking those of us who thought the camp thing was a big deal, and that's fine.(https://38.media.tumblr.com/72206080d678ae035bc637c37042ba42/tumblr_n3u2bjw8U01tul3z0o2_500.gif)
do me a favor, keep me out of your posts mmmmkay.
I guess chittlins is mocking those of us who thought the camp thing was a big deal, and that's fine.(https://38.media.tumblr.com/72206080d678ae035bc637c37042ba42/tumblr_n3u2bjw8U01tul3z0o2_500.gif)
do me a favor, keep me out of your posts mmmmkay.
I understand what you were getting at, chittlins; you were expressing shock at the camp being taken out, and then relief when we learned it was just moved. Of course, I spend most of my time on Tumblr these days, so I've learned how to read people's expressing emotions via gifs. :D
PS: Great use of gifs, by the way. :)
The picture you posted is old. The back lot has been cleaned off and is now host to hundreds of employees cars. fyi.
I think I've brought up the idea - in this thread - of weaving indigenous animals into the park - but strictly limited to those local animals. Bass Pro could even sponsor a couple of small aquaria in strategic locations. A lot of education could be included in the queue of a ride about bats.
I do a unit at school that focuses on the cave ecosystem. Our room becomes a tourist cave, and students take other classes on tours, so this would interest me. Of course, as we have discussed, it expands SDC to include yet another theme - zoology.
A new area called the "Beverly Hillbilly Experience". There could be a ride that is like the famous truck, American Plunge could be rethemed as Texas Tea, ...
Black Bear habitat at the Lumbercamp Waterfall. :)
[The trouble is no one under 60 would know who or what it was referencing.
A new area called the "Beverly Hillbilly Experience". There could be a ride that is like the famous truck, American Plunge could be rethemed as Texas Tea, ...
A new area called the "Beverly Hillbilly Experience". There could be a ride that is like the famous truck, American Plunge could be rethemed as Texas Tea, ...
The trouble is no one under 60 would know who or what it was referencing.
Black Bear habitat at the Lumbercamp Waterfall. :)
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
YES! ^^^ That sounds great! I do wish they would have an area that is older, like Renaissance era, or newer like 1950s though....
The Renaissance started in the 15th century.
They have Crossroads Pizza. Where was pizza first made?
Exactly, it doesnt clash right with the theme. Thats why im saying I wish it was a good theme. Not some kind of a confusing, boring era/year
I went last weekend. Best park in the world BY FAR. Dont matter if they have no rides. The way they talk, all the costume characters (its like a Comic Con), all the great shows, the cheap food and drinks, the atmosphere, and everything they have, its just all better than any park, even without rides.
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Yeah. The successful park should take advice from the substandard and amateur. That's how I've always lived my life.Yes and the castle and Frontier City are the successful parks.
No. its that SDC could be so much better and im putting my 2 cents and ideas in just like everyone else can. You all should be more open minded and look at everything in different ways and with different themes, like me. Dont look at every ride with the 1 theme that everybody says on here.
I agree that the American Plunge needs attention. I think I have a pretty good plan for a refresh.
1. The current flume layout will go away
2. All new animatronics will be provided by the same company that redid the Log Flume at KBF
3. The old troughs from the Float Trip will now be be integrated into the layout of the flume ride.
4. The finale splash down will be removed from its current location.
5. New station for the log flume will be located in the Wildfire plaza area.
6. Current station, splash down pool, queue line area will go away.
7. New queue entrance will be located where the unused extended queue for WildFire is currently.
8. New theme for the flume ride will be the Inventor's League. Along the route you will go through different labs (shacks) of Inventors in this league and will experience their latest inventions (all of which are just as successful as Doc Harris (who happens to be the leader of this League).
9. The finale of the ride will be an elevator lift to the final drop. (another invention)
No. its that SDC could be so much better and im putting my 2 cents and ideas in just like everyone else can. You all should be more open minded and look at everything in different ways and with different themes, like me. Dont look at every ride with the 1 theme that everybody says on here.
We love SDC the way it is. And if they ever come close to your idea of the park I will burn our season passes.
I think we all agree that the Phantasialand flume is exactly the caliber of ride we want AP to be eventually turn into. I disagree about the theme though. The ozarkan daredevilry theme was such an SDC-flavored theme. It's just the right mix of unique, outlandish, and yet fitting for both the theme and ride. I'd like to see it come back. The steampunk theme is good in small doses, but it will easily get overused quick. I'd rather see them use that theme to work in another flat ride that would be hard to theme otherwise.
Why not go for multiple splash downs of varying height?
Why not a backwards section?
Would you use side by side seating for capacity?
Would we actually want a log theme? If we went with side by side why not make it flat boat themed like Jim Owens. Cave scenes include animated bear, Bald Knobbers hid out, prehistoric bones, ect.
I think we all agree that the Phantasialand flume is exactly the caliber of ride we want AP to be eventually turn into. I disagree about the theme though. The ozarkan daredevilry theme was such an SDC-flavored theme. It's just the right mix of unique, outlandish, and yet fitting for both the theme and ride. I'd like to see it come back. The steampunk theme is good in small doses, but it will easily get overused quick. I'd rather see them use that theme to work in another flat ride that would be hard to theme otherwise.
Well you'll have to excuse me if I politely disagree with you on this. The whole point (for me) on moving to an inventor theme is to make a more centralized theme for this area. The Dare-Devil theme has nothing else in the area to go along with it. WildFire is the anchor of this area and is at a dead end. To me it makes sense to centralize the theme for the area to being the head quarters for the SDC Inventor's League than to have numerous random themes in the area. I never stated that it had to be completely steam-punk - BUT if this area is where the steam punk theme is confined to, I don't have a problem with it. I agree that there could be another flat ride in this area that has a steam punk theme, but I think moving towards one unifying theme would be a definite plus for the park.Why not go for multiple splash downs of varying height?
Why not a backwards section?
Would you use side by side seating for capacity?
Would we actually want a log theme? If we went with side by side why not make it flat boat themed like Jim Owens. Cave scenes include animated bear, Bald Knobbers hid out, prehistoric bones, ect.
I seriously considered a MACK style Aquatrax ride, but I am not sure I want something to stand out as much as I think something like that would in the area. I am more for it blending in with the scenery of the park and being hidden from the midway. That's why I wanted the animatronics to be indoors and out of the elements. I guess there could be some hidden drops insides these buildings along the route. I do like the idea of having backwards sections. I don't know about the side-by-side seating as that might cause the troughs to have to be expanded. As far as logs/etc. I don't think the theme of the actual vessel will be a make/break to the ride.
I don't know about the side-by-side seating as that might cause the troughs to have to be expanded.
I would much rather see this done before another new coaster and I am a coaster lover.I myself don't like to get wet and walk around all day so I am not as much a water ride guy but I agree with Runner, I would rather see this before
O.....M.....G!!! This is exactly what we need! It sounds like a mix of several rides, with a Steampunk theme. This will solve most of my problems. I think I was the one to come up with the Steampunk theme a few months ago, by the way.
The thing that might keep steampunk out of the park is the possible attraction of hardcore steampunk cosplayers. I love the look of the stuff, but I really don't see the WF/AP area going that way. As the logo is an ax and log, the forestry theme probably should prevail in the area. Otherwise the only signs of logging will show up in a hamburger restaurant.
I love the look of the stuff, but I really don't see the WF/AP area going that way. As the logo is an ax and log, the forestry theme probably should prevail in the area. Otherwise the only signs of logging will show up in a hamburger restaurant.
I'd prefer a coaster with a higher PPH
Just to clarify - Verbolten does have outdoor sections, just the majority of the ride is indoors with lots of tightly banked curves through set pieces.
Would you replace TNT with this? By having a structure for the indoor section, the 21st Century backsides of things could be masked more than they are with the current TNT. Plus, the proximity to the mining area of the park and the cave area would still fit with the new ride.
Other than Christmas, never noticed that area as being congested. Though full disclosure, I don't spend much time on the square.
Plus thats where the stairs are to get to the old picture stands before you go into Marvel Cave. There is also the Employee walkway, and the gates and road for the employee vehicle road there.
There's a new saloon in town, one packed with action, a larger stage, and room for people to sit. Located between Wildfire and the Lumberjack Camp, the new saloon boasts a brand new show in which the lumberjacks get in on the action. They dance on the "root beer barrels", throw axes, climb to the second level, and do other lumberjack stunts. This interrupts the dancing girls.
I have to admit, being an armchair imagineer is fun.
Here is my plan for the area.
I think completing the loop and redoing the walkways near Wildfire will really help out here.
Also moving the log flume station to near the Lumbercamp area is a must and then that area can be themed to being an actual Lumbercamp. The furniture store can add a backstory to the fact that they get their wood from there. The eating places across from Lumbercamp need to be rethemed to reflect the direction that the area is going with. Also would anyone be against moving the Old Time Photos to maybe up on the square or even where the Woodworkers are near Huck's Hideout? The Woodworkers could be moved to that space then and then we have even more woodworking stuff.
Now for the ride, I want the splash down visible from the dinning patio of Lumbercamp - that should add more traffic to that area.
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Now you might notice that I added some expansion pads back by Wildfire. I think with that new loop, that opens up area for another coaster pad. Also I think a new restroom will be needed on the new loop and I think where I put it on the map is a great spot. Another grab/go food place can be put back there with a patio that dinners can sit at and watch both PowderKeg and Wildfire.
Oh and there is enough room to put in a super themed flat ride back there as well. Maybe something like the Cloudpoofer 2000 at Worlds of Fun... a themed indoor flat ride of some sort. Must be inside though.
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Again, thoughts?
Again, thoughts?Love all the idea so far and the ride idea works great with theme, full season operation, dark aspects that are unique. Its a good idea. The problem for me was
So MH, you're thinking of putting the cave themed coaster and the new log flume both in the land area between PK and WF?Yes complete the loop in 1 shot. Put in a eatery -bathrooms. I agree the rides should not have entrances near each other. I think 2 completely separate experiences but sharing some common visual passing. ( thinking the train and Splash Mountain or Pirates and the Blue Bayou restaurant., Mexican pavilion in Epcot.) All are passes inside a building and they are short and once, this seems to work. IF you intertwine too many elements is messes the thing up.
I think the cave themed coaster needs to be up by the cave -- in fact, I've been thinking of having a new entrance to the cave be in that area as well instead of inside the HH.
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I am all for having a coaster interact with the flume - BUT, I am huge on not having rides be overly visible from the midways and I think that having a coaster do that would defeat that mindset -- yeah I know I am contradicting myself with my new pathway there between PK and WF but I don't want to set a precedent that we cannot come back from.
BUT if we are dead set on having a coaster interact with flume, let's have the entrance to that ride be where I have "ride location" there by the grab/go restaurant
I may have gotten lost in the versions but I thought Swoosh was suggesting a indoor ride with heavy theming to the cave or mine.
and for the record, I'm not a huge fan of having AP and a rollercoaster sharing the same land -- I really think that would be jarring for each experience to see another ride. We're trying to be different from other parks. If you want to see another ride while riding a different ride, go to an amusement park. If you want experiences that transport you into an experience you can't get anywhere else - then go to SDC. Personal opinion though.I can see another ride on just about anything at SDC now . Any coaster not named Thunderation. I'm a bit confused how a themed up track crossing a themed up stream at a splash zone and a small side by side section, you know like what you would have seen in many instances in the Ozarks in the late 1880s. I don' see how rock tress led bride crossing a flume stream is ruining anything. If anything it makes it more unique if done right.
We don't need another low PPH ride at the park
We don't need another low PPH ride at the park
We don't need another low PPH ride at the park
What rides do we have that you count as having a low PPH?
We don't need another low PPH ride at the park
What rides do we have that you count as having a low PPH?
PowderKeg and it could be argued Outlaw Run with its slow ops
Why not take out the courthouse theater and put a dark ride there? They hardly seem to use that theater anymore.
Riverfront Playhouse is used during World Fest, Bluegrass and BBQ, Southern Gospel Picnic, the Harvest Festival, and Christmas. About the only time it is dark is during the summer.
QuoteRiverfront Playhouse is used during World Fest, Bluegrass and BBQ, Southern Gospel Picnic, the Harvest Festival, and Christmas. About the only time it is dark is during the summer.
The "Wacky Science" is in Riverfront This summer...,
I forget what was in it last summer, the summer before was some kind of a "Bubble" display..
and it could be argued Outlaw Run with its slow opTHat wouldnt be much of a argument. I am always astounded it takes them longer to load a car than it does for one to complete the entire circuit.
Quoteand it could be argued Outlaw Run with its slow opTHat wouldnt be much of a argument. I am always astounded it takes them longer to load a car than it does for one to complete the entire circuit.
I get that we want to do "safety theater" due to the New Texas Giant accident, but the belts are really ridiculous.Amen
This could not happen in Lake Silver, it's a natural feature to a degree. (meaning, it has been reinforced with concrete, but has always held some water and sustained aquatic life) The picture of the coaster going into the tunnel is thru a man made pool of water. Now that could be built pretty much anywhere above ground. This area is mostly bedrock riddled with sinkholes and caves.I
This could not happen in Lake Silver, it's a natural feature to a degree. (meaning, it has been reinforced with concrete, but has always held some water and sustained aquatic life) The picture of the coaster going into the tunnel is thru a man made pool of water. Now that could be built pretty much anywhere above ground. This area is mostly bedrock riddled with sinkholes and caves.
Anyway, back on topic. We all know SDC is getting a B&M coaster. No question about that. People are saying on YouTube that they think the next coaster will be a Dive Coaster. I think a Suspended coaster will fit in best and add more variety and it would go great with the terrain because not many coasters are like Suspended coasters. I would also like a flying coaster. It would fit in nicely too. Wing and floorless coasters are much like Wildfire. The only difference is on a Wing, you ride on the side of the track. Hyper would be great because Hypers are all about the air time because they mainly have hills. The only coasters that have a little bit of air time or are closest to this is Powder Keg and Outlaw Run. So a Hyper would be pretty different. Dive coaster would be nice, but it might be too much like Wildfire since Dive coasters do loops, but on the plus side, they all have a tunnel and it can go thru water. Ive always said SDC needs more rides with a tunnel. Thats all the B&M coasters I can think of right now. Here are some things I hope future SDC coasters will have. I dont expect a coaster to have all of these qualities. I just want at least 1 in every coaster coming up, if possible:[(http://cdn.newadnetwork.com/sites/prod/files/uploads/barbarap/GIF/jaws.gif)
1. A suspended or flying coaster. Something with the track over your head. These are alot different than other coasters for 1 main reason and SDC really needs one. Theyll go perfectly with the terrain. Not a suspended family coaster. We already have the kiddie ride and Thunderation, both of which are like Family Coasters.
2. A backwards coaster. I dont care what kind. I just want a coaster that goes backwards, was built to go backwards, and they wont change the cars foreward. I love not seeing where I am going. That way I can expect the unexpected.
3. A spinning coaster. One that spins the thru the entire ride so gravity can take hold of the heaviest side and make it more fun.
4. A preview/show type thing. A ride that tells you more of the story on a tv, projector, or thru an animatronic either while you are in a certain room on the ride, or before the ride as you walk into a room. I want to FEEL like Im actually in the story.
5. A ride like Mystery Mine.
6. More indoor rides. That way, nor rain, sleet, snow, heat, or heat could close the ride. Except if there is a tornado or the electricity goes off. An indoor ride can stay open during almost anything. Plus, it would be another dark ride. We need more rides where its really dark in spots.
7. A water roller coaster. Fire in the hole has the pool it goes into and they took it out of PK. I miss Buss-saw falls. We need another water coaster. Something that can go from water to dry time quickly with a great story.
8. A coaster with a maintenance platform in the middle of the ride, not including the hill or brake run. This type of ride usually means it is longer and better.
9. A motorcycle ride.
10. A ride with a tunnel. A tunnel makes any ride more fun.
the rest of your ideas sound acceptable but definitely NOT A MOTORCYCLE RIDE!I just threw it in there because I never rode 1. I think SDC might build a nice 1 someday. But I think some people here might wish for it to be a horse riding coaster, which is why I hope they dont get 1.
Do I need to even open his post? (He's on my ignore list so it doesn't show unless I open it).Really? Theres no reason to block me. My posts are just like everyone elses. What about your posts? Oh, thats right I can say whatever I want and you cant understand me! ;D
I'm guessing it's a real doozy like normal.
Maybe I'll go pop some popcorn first?
you can dress up a coaster and call it Caitlyn if you want
Laroy I agree that the Indoor/Dark ride is not just a little important its really important. WHy? because you can dress up a coaster and call it Caitlyn if you want you want but the indoor ride has to be something original to SDC and would help shore up the theme. I also agree that the preview Movie would be a good idea, it is more immersive. We are straddling the fence on theme these days. BTW maybe you want a horseback ride instead of a motorcycle ride, same ride, different theme.I agree everything needs a good theme. I dont want a ride that just goes back and forth. I want to see a story along the way. Something to look at or hear. No I dont want a horse ride. I hate horses and we already have Outlaw Run which is bad enough as it is to me.
Not sure if this is the right place to put this idea....but here it goes....
SDC needs a short-term pet boarding facility.
As I shelled out $60 to board my dog for 2 nights over the weekend....I thought about how many SDC regulars probably are in the same situation. I'm sure there are a lot of pet owners among the SDC crowd and it made me wonder how many specifically don't go or don't go as often because of pet care. The trip before this one I used a neighbor boy who forget to let her out so we came home to a mess.
I'd imagine some kind of shed/kennel to be built near one of the train stops and just have every one wanting to use it go to that stop. It would have have to be I assume same day drop off and pick up only.....no overnights. Would probably take an extra couple of employees to run and I'm guessing most people who use it wouldn't mind a small fee for the service.
Not sure if this is the right place to put this idea....but here it goes....
SDC needs a short-term pet boarding facility.
As I shelled out $60 to board my dog for 2 nights over the weekend....I thought about how many SDC regulars probably are in the same situation. I'm sure there are a lot of pet owners among the SDC crowd and it made me wonder how many specifically don't go or don't go as often because of pet care. The trip before this one I used a neighbor boy who forget to let her out so we came home to a mess.
I'd imagine some kind of shed/kennel to be built near one of the train stops and just have every one wanting to use it go to that stop. It would have have to be I assume same day drop off and pick up only.....no overnights. Would probably take an extra couple of employees to run and I'm guessing most people who use it wouldn't mind a small fee for the service.
Silver Doggy City?
I'll put this here, in an attempt to keep the 2017 thread clear for actual construction or rumors.
The new cave/bat ride could be this:
They would construct a pseudocavern above ground. The queue could be packed with interactive/educational kiosks and decoration. Spelling lighting and sound, along with dripping water and speleothems are a must. This indoor portion of the queue would be kept, of course, mostly dark.
Once secured into the vehicle, the wing coaster tunnels and climbs, still in the dark, and somewhere during the first drop, it exits the cave, bursting into the sunlight (or starlight) with the bat colony, along with some nice sound effects for unsuspecting people walking by off-ride.
Name possibilities: Batburst, Escape, Nightwing, The Echo, Microchiroptera Mayhem
I still think the Waterboggan area could be re purposed and the tower gutted and reused as a structure for a small footprint coaster like Mystery Mine to pass thru.
It's beyond rough. Great theme. Horrible execution.
It's beyond rough. Great theme. Horrible execution.This is sad but true and I don't think its something they can fix. When the 12 year old ride lovers started to complain I knew it was not just me. They did a great job with theming but the ride itself it painful.
When the slide was removed I'd had imagined the tower to be reused as a base for a zipline type of attraction. With rope course and stuff with a few other added towers. Probably an upcharge ride.
That seems kind of silly now with all the places around Branson that does that a lot bigger and better than they could do in the park.
Put a ferris wheel on top of it....lol
It's beyond rough. Great theme. Horrible execution.
I agree with that bit i've been on an euro fighter that offered a good ride. Wonder how Adentureland's new euro rides.
Sir willow, sorry, i've seenn too many coasters get squeezed into tight spots, especially coaster without long trains.
With a vertical lift and custom layout a number of companies can fit something there. But, there are other locations that hanging on the tree much lower to harvest first.
It's beyond rough. Great theme. Horrible execution.
I agree with that bit i've been on an euro fighter that offered a good ride. Wonder how Adentureland's new euro rides.
Sir willow, sorry, i've seenn too many coasters get squeezed into tight spots, especially coaster without long trains.
With a vertical lift and custom layout a number of companies can fit something there. But, there are other locations that hanging on the tree much lower to harvest first.
It's beyond rough. Great theme. Horrible execution.
I agree with that bit i've been on an euro fighter that offered a good ride. Wonder how Adentureland's new euro rides.
Sir willow, sorry, i've seenn too many coasters get squeezed into tight spots, especially coaster without long trains.
With a vertical lift and custom layout a number of companies can fit something there. But, there are other locations that hanging on the tree much lower to harvest first.
Adventureland's Monster is an Infinity Coaster and not a Euro Fighter. I think rides much better and it does not suffer from OTSR.
It's beyond rough. Great theme. Horrible execution.
I agree with that bit i've been on an euro fighter that offered a good ride. Wonder how Adentureland's new euro rides.
Sir willow, sorry, i've seenn too many coasters get squeezed into tight spots, especially coaster without long trains.
With a vertical lift and custom layout a number of companies can fit something there. But, there are other locations that hanging on the tree much lower to harvest first.
I have as well, but that spot is a lot tighter than most of those tight spots, and not as big as some might think it is. Along with the fact that the space around that tower really isn't available except on one side. The other space around and underneath it is already occupied. I also don't know that the tower could support the weight and motion of a coaster. Combine all that with SDC's past showing they don't like to build on top of itself... and then there is the theater that they aren't going to want to enclose, but would be made pretty much useless if they put a coaster in there.
That's why I said it's far more likely that they would put a flat ride in there.
Do we need another extreme woodie? If anything after Project 2018, I'd like a FireChaser style coaster to bridge the gap between TNT and the big 3 (soon to be 4)
Personally, I think it is an eyesore and needs to be torn down.
Personally, I think it is an eyesore and needs to be torn down.
likely the best option but the cost of bringing in a crane and crew to do just that is bottom line busting and will imply wait till they can wrap it into an addition budget.
Yes, we know you hate GG
They took it to the Dollywood water park.
When did they remove the WB? Why did they remove it? The first time I was there in the early to mid 80's we rode that thing over and over. I was not back until about 06 or so and it was gone then.
It's kind of frustrating to see the tower sit there in limbo since it kind of hurts the ambiance without any purpose, but it's another one of those things that's not worth messing with until they need to.
It would be nice if they would put the WB back in and restore it to the original. I know the space is now FL but surely they could find another direction to reroute the slides. The WB was one of our favorite rides at SDC.
Would anyone be opposed to an Escape from Pompeii themed Shoot'd Chutes coming to the park? It could be themed to a sawmill instead.
Well here's my entire plan.So the log ride would be entirely different than the flume style ride? Would the flume ride be all indoors untill the final drop?
American Plunge - removed
Falls at Lumber Camp - removed
Lumber Camp Lake - removed
The new show building will be built into the current hill at the back of the Lumber Camp Lake. The building will more than likely stick above the current height. The building will be disguised as a hill with faux rock work. The ride entrance and queue building will be located pretty much where the Wildfire arch is located. The splash down will be on the north side of the new Lake (I say new because the current one needs work as it is losing water).
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As far as what to do for a new log ride? I have a few possible new locations.
1. Where kiddie rides are in Grand Expo (that area could then be closed off in Winter)
2. Where Waterboggan was located - themed to Firemans Landing
3. Somewhere in the Homestead Region
I'd much rather have it blend into the park - not stand out like a sore thumb. My suggestion can tell a story. I'm not sure how a power surge can do that. Sorry that seems like a Six Flags addition and not a destination park addition
Nope. This would be new. Roaring Falls was sold when CC closed and has since been removed.Huh didn't realize it finally got sold. I thought it was the last thing remaining in the old park. When did it sell?
The ride I'm proposing would not be a log flume.
https://youtu.be/wS4SE0bdo9g
All right. How about an Ice House themed ride like Pompeii. Put it where the current station and queue building for American Plunge is located. New American Plunge can be like Daredevil Falls at Dollywood but themed more to a saw mill (instead of just the final lift hill like it is at DW).
All right. How about an Ice House themed ride like Pompeii. Put it where the current station and queue building for American Plunge is located. New American Plunge can be like Daredevil Falls at Dollywood but themed more to a saw mill (instead of just the final lift hill like it is at DW).
Nope. This would be new. Roaring Falls was sold when CC closed and has since been removed.Huh didn't realize it finally got sold. I thought it was the last thing remaining in the old park. When did it sell?
Nope. This would be new. Roaring Falls was sold when CC closed and has since been removed.Huh didn't realize it finally got sold. I thought it was the last thing remaining in the old park. When did it sell?
Granted, I have not paid attention for awhile while passing CC, but the last that I knew, this was still standing.
Here is my vision...
ICE HOUSE SPLASH
The new Ice House Splash would be located near the Mountain Outfitters Knife Shop - the splash down will be aimed towards where the current American Plunge is located. The show building will go behind the Knife Shop and the facade for the show building will match the other buildings in the area.
Inside you will get a "tour" of a ice block cutting factory. The first thing you will notice is an extreme change in temperature upon entering the show portion. As you meander the river in the show building, you'll have a few close calls with falling ice blocks and a falling ice cutter blade. To end the ride you will exit the show building going through the "delivery door" to a giant splash down below.
SAW MILL FALLS
This new log flume will take guests through a working saw mill and lumber gathering company. Guests will float past many scenes of the different stages of logging - even some of the wildlife is helping (eager beavers gnawing on the trees). The flume will feature 2 drops, including one in the dark.
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Now for the final touch. There will be a new lake constructed that both rides will dump into. The back of the lake will feature new rockwork that will also house much of the show buildings for the new log flume. Wildfire will now only accessed by a new pathway that goes past PowderKeg. This will also set up the new plaza for the coaster that will go in between the two current coasters that are there (more on that in a future post).
I get that rides and festivals are the big draw these days, but I would like to see a more directed effort to make the entire Park much more of the period themed location it started as. It would be difficult as the craftsman are getting harder and harder to find.
I just feel the craftsman are still there but only as theming for the overall park. There used to be much more of a focus on the life and feeling of the time period in the park. Now it seems more like a novelty rather than the purpose. I may not be making any sense. sorry--- There are so many crafts that are from that period that are no longer in the park. Basket Making, corn brooms, cooperage. the old shingle saw engine has been moved off and is now a decoration in the farm area. Quilting, printing, stained glass - all are gone.
In fact I would be willing to bet that if you polled everyone leaving the park you would be interested to find how few even know there is a homestead area with animals in the park. Even on the busiest days it would be hard find more than a handful of people in the area at any given time.
I know that these days the money and the big crowd draws are not the blacksmith shop or the duplicating lathe, but with the loss of the furniture shop and its equipment, a huge blow to the overall period atmosphere has occurred. The park began with simple ideas and over time it has slowly become less so.
I just feel if all the attention is on the newest and greatest ride system, eventually the thing that we all love about the park - its ability to transport you to a simpler time, that will be a distant memory. Its already happening , but its not too late. thanks for letting me rant.
my two cents.
Kevin
The first thing that popped up in my mind was Diving Bell 2.0
https://youtu.be/i3u04ZhalaU
The first thing that popped up in my mind was Diving Bell 2.0Would absolutely love to see something like this!!!
https://youtu.be/i3u04ZhalaU