PROJECT 2026 TRACKER
Purpose: This thread was created to track the progress of the new attraction being added to Silver Dollar City for the 2026 season.
CONFIRMED NEWS
1. Dalton Fischer from Silver Dollar City confirmed at ACE's NoCoasterCon on January 18, 2025 that SDC was adding an "additional family attraction besides the new resort for the 2026 season"
2. Numerous park guests have stated seeing officials conducting land surveys on and around the land between PowderKeg and Wildfire.
3. Markings related to land surveys, including paint marks and flags, were viewed in the area noted in point 2.
4. Large amounts of tree removal and earth moving has already begun on and around American Plunge
5. Lots of site clearing has already occurred around American Plunge and beyond PowderKeg and Wildfire
6. Flags have been spotted on the construction site
7. New BOH Road has been built to get equipment in and out [COMPLETED]
8. Unused portions of the old Jim Owen's ride flume will be removed
9. First two large footers have been installed near Wildfire
RUMORS (Will be updated as information presents itself)
1. Mack is the front runner for design firm
2. The attraction is being described as a major thrill ride that most of the family can enjoy
3. American Plunge, Wildfire and PowderKeg will coexist with the new attraction.
4. The exit for the ride will go through the cabin next to PowderKeg
5. Entrance to the ride will be on the Lumbercamp Falls side of American Plunge
6. The ride will extend into the woods past the two current rollercoasters but unsure how far.
7. There will be a new pathway connecting the American Plunge path to the Powder Keg path and will connect next to current PowderKeg photo stand
This is awesome - thank you, Swoosh.
WOW! Exciting news! Thanks for sharing the information! Look forward to the speculation, future photos and updates!!
So it sounds like a coaster. Now if you look at the current line up and break it down they have three thrill coasters, Outlaw run, Wild fire and Time Traveler and three family rides Thunderation, Powder Keg and Fire in the Hole. With last entry the New Fire in the Hole which leads me to beleive it is a thrill coaster. You also say they are looking at "several companies" which would cancel out types that only one manufacturer builds like a tilt coaster. My guess its a wooden coaster with GCI or Gravity Group. A wooden coaster that interacts with Powder keg, Wildfire and American Plunge.
Mack or B&M hyper/giga lol
Might it "interact with AP" until AP is eventually removed, as in it's going to ultimately replace the old flume ride with something better?
Please note, I've only just compiled the rumors going around. They'll only be moved to the confirmed list if there's hard to debunk evidence.
I'll continue to add to the rumor list as I hear or read things around the internet.
Quote from: Jesus4me on February 10, 2025, 10:05:57 AMYou also say they are looking at "several companies" which would cancel out types that only one manufacturer builds like a tilt coaster. My guess its a wooden coaster with GCI or Gravity Group. A wooden coaster that interacts with Powder keg, Wildfire and American Plunge.
I don't have anything to prove this but I'm pretty certain it won't be a wooden coaster, in fact I'd say 98.99% certain.
My suggestion is to look what Dollywood has added recently and maybe think of other companies that might build similar rides. Think about who HFEC has worked with over the years (and especially recently) and then start narrowing it down to which companies make similar rides... and no this is not an ego thing, I have no idea who they're using
The park currently has three coasters with inversions, two coasters with launches, three family coasters and three thrill coasters and one childrens coaster. There is already a B & M coaster trill looping coaster Wildfire in the area. My guess it the new ride would be a little more tame with a lower height requirement. By the size of the area described this will be a large spread out ride that must either go under or over multiple existing rides in the woods. Something like Big Bear at Dollywood comes to mind, but it is much like PowderKeg to a degree. Which leads to to beleive that it is a family suspended coaster like either DragonFlyer (https://www.dollywood.com/themepark/rides/dragonflier/) at Dollywood or Phoniex Rising (https://rcdb.com/21221.htm) at Busch Gardens Tampa.
I might be clowning here a bit, but I'm thinking we might see something really big to make people want to stay at the resort and spend extra money for exclusive ride time? Or just a really big attraction to help advertise SDC, the resort, and the coaster beyond our local area? SFOT is opening a 300+ foot coaster in 2026 - so could SDC do something just as big?
Jay
Quote from: cowboy on February 11, 2025, 09:33:30 AMI might be clowning here a bit, but I'm thinking we might see something really big to make people want to stay at the resort and spend extra money for exclusive ride time? Or just a really big attraction to help advertise SDC, the resort, and the coaster beyond our local area? SFOT is opening a 300+ foot coaster in 2026 - so could SDC do something just as big?
Jay
I makes sense what you are saying and it just comes down to money. They are already using alot of money building the resort so I don't know if they have the budget to go really big. If they did I would like to see something not in the states yet. Time Traveler is a one of a kind coaster in North America. It should be something of that nature but for a wider audience. Something for everyone with heavy themeing, that goes thru tunnels, wraps around Wildfire and Powderkeg and over American Plunge.
^ I think you're forgetting the budget for the expansions is a total of $500 million.
Quote from: Swoosh on February 11, 2025, 11:23:50 PM^ I think you're forgetting the budget for the expansions is a total of $500 million.
Did not know that. Great, lets go shopping. :)
I could see them wanting to add something similar to Firechaser Express at DW. Then eventually with the idea they would replace Thunderation. Seems like they're removing a lot of the older rides and replacing with new and updated versions. The general public has been complaining about how rough TNT has gotten and they may not want to spend the capital to refurb.
Just my speculation.
Quote from: Coaster on February 15, 2025, 09:39:24 AMI could see them wanting to add something similar to Firechaser Express at DW. Then eventually with the idea they would replace Thunderation. Seems like they're removing a lot of the older rides and replacing with new and updated versions. The general public has been complaining about how rough TNT has gotten and they may not want to spend the capital to refurb.
Didn't the park say at the FITH media event that they were trying to keep thunderation open? I feel like a retracking + support work would keep the ride open longer and be cheaper than replacing it.
Plus, I don't think that we're getting something like firechaser express since we just got a family coaster. The last thrill coaster was time traveler in 2018, and the last extreme thrill coaster was outlaw run in 2013.
Just my speculation.
^ It was my belief as well that they will refresh and keep Thunderation open. I wish the new attraction would be completely indoors so it would be open during inclement weather but with the ride extending into the woods it doesn't sound like that's the case.
I rode TNT at the end of the 24 season and it rode a lot better than it has in awhile. I didn't even feel the pothole going into the tunnel either. They have been redoing small segments of the ride over the past few years (photos were posted on older construction threads here) replacing bits of the track and support structure. This was probably another reason all the shrubbery was removed around the ride so they could have easier access with heavy equipment. SDC knows its a very unique coaster that's part of a dying breed of Arrow built attractions plus it just fits the general atmosphere of the park so well. I think it's safe to say it will be with us into the 2030's at least. The other train has been out for most of the season for an overhaul. Definitely not a sign the ride is going away if they are investing in it like that.
My selfish hope is that the next major coaster is an Intamin LSM multi-launch in the style of velocicoaster. No reason for them to as they already have 2 launch coaster but dang it I can dream!
Although, if we're being realistic, a terrain-based hyper/giga coaster makes sense for the plot of land and park needs. Plus a giga in the woods is the stuff of dreams.
I'd sure love for the rumor about the society of Ozarkan daredevilry coming back to be true. That was a great theme. At this point, there's barely any of it left. I haven't ridden AP in ages, but I assume the guy caught in the whirlpool is still there. That little scene has actually been around since the Jim Owen days if I'm not mistaken.
Quote from: shavethewhales on March 03, 2025, 01:39:43 PMI'd sure love for the rumor about the society of Ozarkan daredevilry coming back to be true. That was a great theme. At this point, there's barely any of it left. I haven't ridden AP in ages, but I assume the guy caught in the whirlpool is still there. That little scene has actually been around since the Jim Owen days if I'm not mistaken.
If the daredevil theme is true, I wonder if an s&s axis coaster could work. First of its kind in america, and the ride vehicles could be themed to some obscure stunt. Maybe connect to dr. horatio again? it would be hard to fit one into SDC's "old-fashioned" theme, but if Time Traveler can work, an axis coaster could too.
https://www.s-s.com/ride-pages/axis-coaster
I can see it being a B&M Dive coaster if it's themed after the Ozarkian Society of Daredevils.
Added to the tracker:
Major land clearing has already begun between PK, WF and around AP.
Photos will be provided once park is open for the season
Quote from: Swoosh on March 11, 2025, 08:50:58 PMAdded to the tracker:
Major land clearing has already begun between PK, WF and around AP.
Photos will be provided once park is open for the season
Excited! Will photos be posted tomorrow, or a couple days afterwards?
I have to lead a tour group Friday-Sunday so it might not be on here until Monday (via my blog) if you follow my X account @Midwest_Info or me on Reddit on r/rollercoaster I will be posting photos on there the day I take them.
Quote from: Swoosh on March 12, 2025, 11:41:48 PMI have to lead a tour group Friday-Sunday so it might not be on here until Monday (via my blog) if you follow my X account @Midwest_Info or me on Reddit on r/rollercoaster I will be posting photos on there the day I take them.
two things:
1. Thanks for the information!
2. You're Midwest Infoguide?!?! I love your blog! I remember seeing the FITH 2.0 construction photos from you!
Lots of photos are flooding into the various SDC FB groups, especially from mg. Looks like the whole area behind the waterfall has been wiped out. The AP tunnel is exposed. Wonder if this project will involve any big changes to the plunge?
Quote from: shavethewhales on March 13, 2025, 10:07:46 AMLots of photos are flooding into the various SDC FB groups, especially from mg. Looks like the whole area behind the waterfall has been wiped out. The AP tunnel is exposed. Wonder if this project will involve any big changes to the plunge?
I can't imagine anything big will happen to AP, the park would have to announce the ride temporarily closing/major changes made. Some removed scenery, but I imagine the props/setpieces stay the same. Only thing I can think of is the new ride interacting with AP, but I dont see that happening.
@TPF just posted this video with some info. I'm perplexed about the Thunderation clue.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pfzH9qvHb74
Quote from: jericho on March 13, 2025, 09:27:36 PM@TPF just posted this video with some info. I'm perplexed about the Thunderation clue.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pfzH9qvHb74
Rumor around the park today was that this may be Thunderation's last year.
It is basically the area behind the waterfall, all the way along the path to WildFire, and to PowderKeg that is cleared. American Plunge and its lift sit in the middle of it with clearing all around it. It does look like the new construction is meant to coexist with American Plunge because they are extending the tunnel at the beginning of American Plunge. I will pictures here tomorrow.
I could see a Vekoma tilt coaster going there. It would be only the 2nd one in North America and they could make it taller/longer than Siren's Curse for better marketability
Quote from: mg on March 13, 2025, 09:55:01 PMQuote from: jericho on March 13, 2025, 09:27:36 PM@TPF just posted this video with some info. I'm perplexed about the Thunderation clue.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pfzH9qvHb74
Rumor around the park today was that this may be Thunderation's last year.
Part of me can see the validility to that rumor, but I also remember last year duirng FiTH's grand opening they talked about doing multi-year refurb to keep it around. I would imagine this is its "last year" being open before being closed for a season for the refurb.
Quote from: mg on March 13, 2025, 09:55:01 PMQuote from: jericho on March 13, 2025, 09:27:36 PM@TPF just posted this video with some info. I'm perplexed about the Thunderation clue.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pfzH9qvHb74
Rumor around the park today was that this may be Thunderation's last year.
We thought TNT was a goner a couple years ago too, but the thing is TNT is the one ride they can basically rebuild continuously themselves. It's a maintenance pain sometimes, but when the track is in decent shape it is a work horse and a crowd pleaser. It seems like a waste for them to replace it.
Quote from: Wildfire on March 14, 2025, 07:14:31 AMI could see a Vekoma tilt coaster going there. It would be only the 2nd one in North America and they could make it taller/longer than Siren's Curse for better marketability
There are two tilt coasters opening soon: one at Cedar Point and one at COTAland in Austin. COTAland takes forever to build stuff, so it probably won't open this year, but they are at least making progress. I don't think HFEC would spring for one at this point since they've been beaten to the punch with the marketing aspect. The tilt coasters are more gimmick than anything, and they aren't worth the maintenance headache if you don't get to market it as something unique.
If they do close T-N-T after this year then I've got to think the new ride will be Thunderation 2.0
The problem with Silver Dollar City is they are replacing rides and not adding rides. Mystic Riverfalls was a replacement, Fire in the Hole was a replacement of the same ride. They need to expand the numbers also. And the "NEW" Plaza Area is just a glorified parking lot. All the structues there will be trailers. How come dollywood is expanding and Silver Dollar City is replacing?
Quote from: shavethewhales on March 14, 2025, 08:04:32 AMQuote from: mg on March 13, 2025, 09:55:01 PMQuote from: jericho on March 13, 2025, 09:27:36 PM@TPF just posted this video with some info. I'm perplexed about the Thunderation clue.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pfzH9qvHb74
Rumor around the park today was that this may be Thunderation's last year.
We thought TNT was a goner a couple years ago too, but the thing is TNT is the one ride they can basically rebuild continuously themselves. It's a maintenance pain sometimes, but when the track is in decent shape it is a work horse and a crowd pleaser. It seems like a waste for them to replace it.
Quote from: Wildfire on March 14, 2025, 07:14:31 AMI could see a Vekoma tilt coaster going there. It would be only the 2nd one in North America and they could make it taller/longer than Siren's Curse for better marketability
There are two tilt coasters opening soon: one at Cedar Point and one at COTAland in Austin. COTAland takes forever to build stuff, so it probably won't open this year, but they are at least making progress. I don't think HFEC would spring for one at this point since they've been beaten to the punch with the marketing aspect. The tilt coasters are more gimmick than anything, and they aren't worth the maintenance headache if you don't get to market it as something unique.
I would personally prefer a giga or even just an airtime filled hyper over a tilt coaster. I just know they seem to have a good relationship with Vekoma and they like to add unique attractions
Just a reminder this thread is for actual tracking on the project. Let's keep the speculation in the correct other thread.
I know I'm not a mod but we created this thread for a reason - not having to search through a thread of off topic posts to find real info
Here are some pictures from opening day. (Click on them to see them larger.)
The area being cleared is from PowderKeg, to the Lumbercamp waterfall, and then follows the path back to WildFire and includes the area around the American Plunge lift and channel.
These are from the area by PowderKeg.
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These show the area near WildFire.
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This is a view showing that they are extending the beginning of the tunnel on American Plunge.
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The waterfall is still standing.
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There is a new railroad crossing near Outlaw Run too. There are marking down through the woods and up to the maintenance area like there is going to be a new access road built through the woods somewhat along the parameter fence of OutlawRun.
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Great photos! Any speculation on what type of coaster will be built?
Did those posts with the pink flags on them have COASTER written on them? Those are just like the ones used when Time Traveler was being built confirming that it was in fact a coaster going in there. Something to look out for on the next visit to the park. Id snoop around to see for myself but I'm not sure how much I will be able to visit this season.
Quote from: Swoosh on March 15, 2025, 12:26:15 AMJust a reminder this thread is for actual tracking on the project. Let's keep the speculation in the correct other thread.
I know I'm not a mod but we created this thread for a reason - not having to search through a thread of off topic posts to find real info
It's kind of hard to keep speculation separate from updates. The natural thing to do when you see dirt moving at the park is to take a guess at what they are doing. Most of this board is basically just speculation between scattered updates from our trips to the park.
Quote from: mg on March 15, 2025, 08:52:05 PMHere are some pictures from opening day. (Click on them to see them larger.)
The area being cleared is from PowderKeg, to the Lumbercamp waterfall, and then follows the path back to WildFire and includes the area around the American Plunge lift and channel.
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Thanks for the photos mg! That is a big area they are clearing. Looks like more than just a pathway connection...
I'm not saying it's not, But I was wondering if were sure this project is for 2026? Lately a lot of their projects have taken a good 2 years to build so is it possible this is for 2027?
Quote from: Grapeslie on March 18, 2025, 04:45:53 AMI'm not saying it's not, But I was wondering if were sure this project is for 2026? Lately a lot of their projects have taken a good 2 years to build so is it possible this is for 2027?
This started in 2024
New photos from today on my X account
@Midwest_Info
Will try to have on the MIG blog by tomorrow
Swoosh, why so many trees cleared out from around Outlaw run? Is this project that massive or that part of a different maintenance project?
Jay
Quote from: cowboy on March 29, 2025, 08:19:46 PMSwoosh, why so many trees cleared out from around Outlaw run? Is this project that massive or that part of a different maintenance project?
Jay
I just saw those photos and that makes me sad. I really hope between that and project 2026 that half of the park doesn't lose the feeling of being "tucked away in the Ozark Mountains".
I can't make heads or tails of what is going on over there. What is going on with the AP tunnel? Are they rebuilding a portion, or extending it? Really wish the scenes or something cool would come to the tunnel, but I'm curious how long AP even has left, so may not be much ROI in it.
The clearing beyond PK must have something to do with the resort. Curious if there is going to be some kind of tram/train/whatever to the resort from that area with a second entrance. I always assumed there would be a second entrance, I just thought it would be in the current maintenance area closer to FITH.
1. See my latest blog update and I explain what's going on with AP
2. The clearing beyond WF/PK have nothing to do with the resort, it's in the wrong direction of the resort. It's MILES from the resort. It's for the 2026 project
Quote from: cowboy on March 29, 2025, 08:19:46 PMSwoosh, why so many trees cleared out from around Outlaw run? Is this project that massive or that part of a different maintenance project?
Jay
This came down from corporate.
The options were remove the trees or the rides cannot operate in weather. This came about from the tree falling on the track of TNT last season. EVERY HFEC coaster has received this treatment. Even at Dollywood.
RIP to the trees around Boulder Dash in the near future
Yup the worst offender was the clear cutting around TN Tornado at Dollywood. All the trees next to LR that were near the station area are gone too. The days of "Flying thru the Trees" are over.
Quote from: Swoosh on April 01, 2025, 10:39:18 PM1. See my latest blog update and I explain what's going on with AP
2. The clearing beyond WF/PK have nothing to do with the resort, it's in the wrong direction of the resort. It's MILES from the resort. It's for the 2026 project
Great pictures and info as always on your MIG site, Swoosh! Thanks!
I do wonder if it will be a wood or steel coaster as its pretty obvious to be another coaster just from looking at the clearing there. I'm thinking likely the latter as HFEC doesn't seem to like wood coasters in their parks (scrapped Wildcat and Cheetah) and/or have issues with them. (Lightning Rod)
Quote from: sdcfan88 on April 02, 2025, 03:40:36 PMI do wonder if it will be a wood or steel coaster as it's pretty obvious to be another coaster just from looking at the clearing there. I'm thinking likely the latter as HFEC doesn't seem to like wood coasters in their parks (scrapped Wildcat and Cheetah) and/or have issues with them. (Lightning Rod)
It will be Steel.
I'm not sure who started the family wooden coaster rumor but they were incorrect.
No I do not know what the final model and manufacturer will be (wish I did)
A pipedream that I have for this area that they are doing is that they tear out current waterfall structure and replace it with an actual waterfall created by an artificial stream they make that interacts with the cleared area. I'm sure that won't happen, but I love the little areas of the park that has the small streams
when do we expect footers to be put in and track to show up?
They're still in the excavation phase so it's hard to gauge at this point. Depending on the company, track could arrive long before they are ready to go vertical. I would imagine they'll store them where they always do
so we wont see track till it goes vertical, or can we catch a glimpse of it before it is tucked away?
If it's who I think it may be we might not see components and track staged until July maybe August. Reason we saw stuff so quick with Time Traveler is due to the logistics of the terrain and the fact that parts were being shipped in all the way from Germany.
Quote from: sdcfan88 on April 09, 2025, 06:37:57 PMIf it's who I think it may be we might not see components and track staged until July maybe August. Reason we saw stuff so quick with Time Traveler is due to the logistics of the terrain and the fact that parts were being shipped in all the way from Germany.
What if... it's the same company?
First ever Mack giga?
In all seriousness, has SDC confirmed (not publicly) that the contractor is Mack Rides? That would be an interesting choice.
No.
But not sure why it would be an interesting choice. They are linked to Dollywood's 2026 attraction. They've built multi launched coasters before.
Quote from: ColaSDC on April 10, 2025, 07:44:20 AMIn all seriousness, has SDC confirmed (not publicly) that the contractor is Mack Rides? That would be an interesting choice.
Why would you say that's an interesting choice? They have the most comfortable seats by far, and they have put out some incredible coasters in the past few years. They would be my first choice for the new SDC coaster, hopefully a long hyper or giga
1. I meant interesting in a positive way.
2. Their last major thrill coaster was manufactured by Mack Rides so its just kinda weird to have them again.
3. I agree mack would make an outstanding hyper/giga coaster, but honestly B&M makes more sense because they need another very reliable ride with lots of capacity like WildFire.
I find it hard not to believe that this could be a Vekoma with all of its New-Gen coasters that look amazing and the work they have done with Herschend recently. Also, with the rave reviews at Dollywood, I could see this being a big bear type of ride with a little more intensity. Just my thoughts.
Thinking from the marketing standpoint with the upcoming resort, its likely gonna be a big crazy coaster that will be a standout design in the region to entice people to come to the park and stay at the resort. A Mack Hyper/Giga would be the logical choice as a standout. However, they may consider B&M for overall reliability so they won't repeat the downtime issues with some of their new rides in recent years (looking at you Mystic River) and of course B&M has better PPH capacity overall if they are looking at increasing the crowd draw to the park. While Dollywood does have something unique from Vekoma with Dragonflier and Big Bear they may be seen as being too similar to Patriot and Mamba up at Worlds Of Fun. (not that those are bad coasters by any means) What the region lacks is a B&M Hyper/Giga, Dive, and Wing Coaster which the latter does exist at Dollywood and could be worked into the Ozarkian Daredevil-y and/or the Inventors theme at SDC as a flying machine. They could also give it a 200+ foot drop to dethrone Mamba as tallest drop in the region or something to that extent. (use your imagination here)
I think if it is indeed Mack then the pattern for our last few coasters is funny. RMC/Mack/RMC/Mack
Question is, will we get a Mack hypercoaster, and if we do, will it have inversions or be airtime focused?
I just hope it doesn't spin or go upside down. They already have that covered.
IF this ends up being a Giga or Hyper Coaster, it will be the first in history to be labeled a "family attraction"
Dang, it's another family coaster?
Quote from: Swoosh on April 11, 2025, 08:39:56 PMIF this ends up being a Giga or Hyper Coaster, it will be the first in history to be labeled a "family attraction"
That is very disappointing. The most obvious need it a long giga or hyper coaster. They already have several family rides. And I am speaking as a father with 2 kids still living at home
I may in the minority, but I think SDC does need a true family coaster like Big Bear at Dollywood.
There is a hole between Grand Expo Coaster and PowderKeg/Thunderation. If Thunderation wasn't so rough it would help fill the gap. But having a true coaster (not super short like Grand Expo) with a low (39") height requirement would be huge for families.
It's one of the big differences between SDC and DW since they have 3 full coasters (Big Bear, Fire Chaser, and Dragonflier) that have a 39" minimum height and are coasters that are great for families.
Does mack even make family coasters besides the wild mouse? No way SDC is building a wild mouse or a spinner.
Quote from: Swoosh on April 11, 2025, 08:39:56 PMIF this ends up being a Giga or Hyper Coaster, it will be the first in history to be labeled a "family attraction"
Did I miss something? Is it confirmed to be a "family attraction"?
Quote from: jericho on April 12, 2025, 11:50:12 AMQuote from: Swoosh on April 11, 2025, 08:39:56 PMIF this ends up being a Giga or Hyper Coaster, it will be the first in history to be labeled a "family attraction"
Did I miss something? Is it confirmed to be a "family attraction"?
See the original post which has the tracker that's updated as needed
Quote from: ColaSDC on April 12, 2025, 08:41:57 AMDoes mack even make family coasters besides the wild mouse? No way SDC is building a wild mouse or a spinner.
Several. You should check out their website or RCDB and search.
Dollywood is getting an Indoor one next season
I didn't know that, I'll go look.
If mack is doing the indoor dollywood coaster does that eliminate a blazing fury remake?
So on the tracker it has been updated in the rumor section to say "family thrill" attraction. If I remember correctly, Time Traveler was also described as "family thrill," despite the 52" height requirement. Theoretically, if mack made a 200~ ft hyper coaster without inversions and used the terrain to make it look smaller like Outlaw Run, I could see SDC justifying it as a "family thrill" coaster, as hypercoasters generally are not super intense. However, if it is purely a "family" attraction, then that's a no go.
Also, I've been looking for the source where Dalton Fischer said "family attraction" at NoCoastercon. Is there an article I can read, or a video I'm missing?
It's going to be a vekoma or B&M feet dangler.
Quote from: ColaSDC on April 12, 2025, 10:15:20 PMIf mack is doing the indoor dollywood coaster does that eliminate a blazing fury remake?
The press event that stated the theme of the new ride (even had a video) eliminated that. Thoosies were the ones thinking because it was indoors it was going to be a New FITH clone
Quote from: chittlins on April 13, 2025, 02:12:02 AMIt's going to be a vekoma or B&M feet dangler.
Problem is, how would they theme it? Wildfire took the "flying machine" theme and I can't see them pulling a Dollywood with the wildwood grove being more "magical" I'd love a family suspended coaster, but I can't imagine a theme.
Honestly if they go with a "feet dangler" I'd hope its finally gonna be our version of Wild Eagle. For a long time their business model seemed to be when one of the two big Herschend Parks adds something, the other does a similar version sometime later. We are due. Plus it would be a standout over Patriot up the road at WOF.
Though it would be cool if Wildfire got a refresh with a Wing Coaster configuration but that would probably be too costly (and impractical) to do without rebuilding it because the station and track would have to be re-engineered.
Overall I still feel like the layout of Apollos Chariot should be a reference of what we might expect based on the land that's been cleared. https://rcdb.com/531.htm#p=81430
If it's a Mack it might be something like Alpina Blitz but slightly larger. https://youtu.be/FcvSZwQfFB8?si=W-OFp4sOabYvwFuh
It's not going to be a hyper. Sorry
Construction update from 4.12
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2025/04/silver-dollar-city-project-2026.html
If this really is a coaster project, then I'm expecting something more along the lines of Big Bear, but maybe a bit smaller since Powderkeg is right there. Hopefully it doesn't end up being a replacement for Powderkeg... PK is 20 years old now, and has always been a bit of a maintenance headache. It's still a solid ride though and is very popular.
Hmm, I'm still imagining an airtime based layout considering the large land clearing, so maybe a mega coaster like Alpina Blitz? it's around 100ft tall and has a layout very similar to a hyper, but in a smaller package. Would be more family friendly and they wouldn't worry about a large lift hill sticking out like a sore thumb.
https://rcdb.com/11056.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxTYMeT9TEw&t=11s
Makes way too much sense because I can't imagine another launch coaster, let alone a Mack launcher.
they could also use the terrain to make the drop larger and have a more out-and-back layout.
edit: did not realize sdcfan88 already mentioned Aplina Blitz lol. sorry 'bout that.
Quote from: shavethewhales on April 14, 2025, 09:38:47 AMIf this really is a coaster project, then I'm expecting something more along the lines of Big Bear, but maybe a bit smaller since Powderkeg is right there. Hopefully it doesn't end up being a replacement for Powderkeg... PK is 20 years old now, and has always been a bit of a maintenance headache. It's still a solid ride though and is very popular.
If it's a replacement for anything it will be for ThuNderaTion. But yes I'm
fully expecting a ground hugging Big Bear Mountain type of coaster that the whole family can ride
Maybe I'm in denial but I just cannot see a world where Thunderation closes anytime soon. Fits really well into the lineup and is a crowd pleaser, as well as acting as most kid's first "big" coaster. I'm betting that the hints and rumors of TNT being removed are leading to the ride closing all season for a year-long refurb, with the new family coaster picking up the slack for a year. If SDC can completely rebuild it (maybe with new vekoma track,) it should run great for another 20ish years. It might take away some charm if they use steel supports in a lattice pattern, but if the ride is more durable than so be it.
Quote from: Swoosh on April 14, 2025, 05:16:58 PMQuote from: shavethewhales on April 14, 2025, 09:38:47 AMIf this really is a coaster project, then I'm expecting something more along the lines of Big Bear, but maybe a bit smaller since Powderkeg is right there. Hopefully it doesn't end up being a replacement for Powderkeg... PK is 20 years old now, and has always been a bit of a maintenance headache. It's still a solid ride though and is very popular.
If it's a replacement for anything it will be for ThuNderaTion. But yes I'm
fully expecting a ground hugging Big Bear Mountain type of coaster that the whole family can ride
Could the ride be a big bear type ride but with a chain/tire life instead so that the park doesnt get yet another launch coaster? I love launches but we are due for another lift coaster. Again I point to the Mack Mega coaster!
Quote from: Swoosh on April 14, 2025, 05:16:58 PMQuote from: shavethewhales on April 14, 2025, 09:38:47 AMIf this really is a coaster project, then I'm expecting something more along the lines of Big Bear, but maybe a bit smaller since Powderkeg is right there. Hopefully it doesn't end up being a replacement for Powderkeg... PK is 20 years old now, and has always been a bit of a maintenance headache. It's still a solid ride though and is very popular.
If it's a replacement for anything it will be for ThuNderaTion. But yes I'm
fully expecting a ground hugging Big Bear Mountain type of coaster that the whole family can ride
Swoosh, you obviously have more info than I do, but I find it far fetched that they would want half of their coasters to be launched.
I mean I agree on the launch thing too - but each would serve a different purpose and a different rider group.
I mean DW have two launched as well and before the retrofit of LR they had 3
I have some pictures of the clearing beyond WildFire and PowderKeg that were taken with RayBan Meta sunglasses on PowderKeg. I know that the forum doesn't allow photos from on rides, but wasn't sure about if they were taken with sunglasses, which are allowed on rides.
Delete if not allowed...
These were taken about a week ago with RayBan Meta Sunglasses.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Vd1vMMM1/IMG-3643.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Vd1vMMM1)
(https://i.postimg.cc/nCkz1zYm/IMG-3644.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nCkz1zYm)
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1FmiAa3huv/
Area of the photo makes me think they're already teasing the 2026 project. But I can also see them teasing lift hill walks, I believe Dollywood started offering them this year.
From the official SDC Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1075465731274846&set=a.695023275985762
SILVER DOLLAR CITY
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
OZARK MOUNTAINS, Mo. (April 2025)
IT'S TIME TO UNLEASH THE LEGEND OF OZARK HOLLOW
A new chapter is beginning in the heart of the Ozark Mountains.
Silver Dollar City is proud to unveil its largest expansion in park history: Ozark Hollow — an immersive new land filled with thrills, storytelling, and heart-pounding adventure. The centerpiece: Fire in the Ozarks, a record-breaking family coaster that takes guests deep into the untamed wilds.
And that's just the beginning.
"We are writing a bold new future for Silver Dollar City," said Brad Thomas, President of Silver Dollar City Attractions. "This land connects to the spirit of adventure that runs deep in this region, in this park, and in the hearts of our guests. From the soaring heights of the mountains to the mystery of underground caves, the Ozarks come alive in Ozark Hollow — plus handcrafted dining, frontier shopping, and never-before-seen shows."
This long-awaited addition has been carefully crafted to honor the heritage of the Ozarks while offering new experiences to all ages. The new coaster features multiple launches and indoor-outdoor thrills through mountain caverns and misty valleys.
Along with the opening of Ozark Hollow, Silver Dollar City is enhancing guest areas throughout the park, increasing shade, updating pathways, and expanding dining. All of this is just the beginning — the future is blazing bright for Silver Dollar City and generations to come.
Whoa, that's a lot more than what I was expecting. I'm trying to process this. So we're getting a new land, new updates throughout the park, and a massive new coaster with indoor/outdoor sections? So like an improved Big Bear (or what Big Bear was supposed to be)? That's incredible.
Quote from: shavethewhales on April 30, 2025, 08:37:00 AMWhoa, that's a lot more than what I was expecting. I'm trying to process this. So we're getting a new land, new updates throughout the park, and a massive new coaster with indoor/outdoor sections? So like an improved Big Bear (or what Big Bear was supposed to be)? That's incredible.
That's what I'm seeing. And with Terry Wayne Sanders wearing aviator gear, Im hoping for a flying coaster. The only negative thing I'll say is the ride name is too close to Fire In the Hole.
Wait, how do we know this is true? They censored the announcement to get people guessing, and I'm not seeing any confirmation on the SDC website.
The comment was correct! I stand corrected! This is so cool!
Now I'm wondering how the commenter knew lol
Quote from: ColaSDC on April 30, 2025, 09:49:29 AMWait, how do we know this is true? They censored the announcement to get people guessing, and I'm not seeing any confirmation on the SDC website.
It's one of the comments, JonnyAmusement wrote it. He is a very big Dollywood poster. They responded that he "won" the season passes they offered if somebody guessed it word for word. I don't actually think that he got it word for word, but he may be close to the real thing. Unless they gave him the press release and he spoiled it too early.
Seems very ChatGPT though. I'd wait until 11 to see what is announced.
11 is when it's announced? alright. Fire in the m Ozark is a crappy coaster name with FITH already, so I hope the real name is different.
I think people are jumping to conclusions and mixing different things to make what they want. That is not a real press release... the comment about him winning was a joke.
I am fairly confident that the press release and announcement today is actually the results of the Best Theme Park voting and not a ride announcement.
This is NOT a real press release. It sounds like he uploaded the redacted teaser to chatgpt and had it fill in the gaps to create this.
Quote from: jericho on April 30, 2025, 08:13:29 AMFrom the official SDC Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1075465731274846&set=a.695023275985762
SILVER DOLLAR CITY
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
OZARK MOUNTAINS, Mo. (April 2025)
IT'S TIME TO UNLEASH THE LEGEND OF OZARK HOLLOW
A new chapter is beginning in the heart of the Ozark Mountains.
Silver Dollar City is proud to unveil its largest expansion in park history: Ozark Hollow — an immersive new land filled with thrills, storytelling, and heart-pounding adventure. The centerpiece: Fire in the Ozarks, a record-breaking family coaster that takes guests deep into the untamed wilds.
And that's just the beginning.
"We are writing a bold new future for Silver Dollar City," said Brad Thomas, President of Silver Dollar City Attractions. "This land connects to the spirit of adventure that runs deep in this region, in this park, and in the hearts of our guests. From the soaring heights of the mountains to the mystery of underground caves, the Ozarks come alive in Ozark Hollow — plus handcrafted dining, frontier shopping, and never-before-seen shows."
This long-awaited addition has been carefully crafted to honor the heritage of the Ozarks while offering new experiences to all ages. The new coaster features multiple launches and indoor-outdoor thrills through mountain caverns and misty valleys.
Along with the opening of Ozark Hollow, Silver Dollar City is enhancing guest areas throughout the park, increasing shade, updating pathways, and expanding dining. All of this is just the beginning — the future is blazing bright for Silver Dollar City and generations to come.
Gonna be extra disappointing now when today's announcement is just them winning that #1 theme park award again
Quote from: The Outlaw on April 30, 2025, 10:15:06 AMGonna be extra disappointing now when today's announcement is just them winning that #1 theme park award again
Well...
Quote from: The Outlaw on April 30, 2025, 11:01:58 AMQuote from: The Outlaw on April 30, 2025, 10:15:06 AMGonna be extra disappointing now when today's announcement is just them winning that #1 theme park award again
Well...
Yep. Extra disappointing.
Lol, lmao even
Lol, I should have known. I guess I'm too busy these days to where I only take a glance at things anymore. The coaster name itself should have been a clue that it wasn't legit. Pretty funny though.
Epic troll job ngl. I got so excited
Wait. You mean there were people who actually thought that this was going to be anything other than the results of the 10 best voting? Their announcement time coincided exactly with the release time of the results by USA Today.
They won't start the teaser campaign until August
lol, it would have been odd for sure, but they did hype this announcement up with a video of two characters on a roller coaster after all. With the construction already being so visible, it seemed plausible for a moment. Of course if you think about it, it's hard to imagine why they would cannibalize the current season by getting people excited about the next one until most people have bought tickets/passes for this year. It was a pretty well written joke for the situation - I'm guessing he had a little AI help ;)
I guess I let my pessimism control my excitement for announcements that only have a day or two notice. Usually when it's a big announcement they hype it up for a bit leading up to the announcement day. I wouldn't be surprised if the final announcement isn't something similar to what was generated, but hoping for nothing themed to a meadow, or holler, or discovery, or...
Jay
I'm wondering if we will see the waterfall removed from behind lumber camp and replaced with a new bigger one that has a coaster fly through like Big Bear at Dollywood.
I know that initially a lot of people won't be happy about it, but I think it could actually be good. Yes, it won't be quite as quiet and secluded as it is now, but the water noise will help cover some of the coaster noise and sitting by the one at Dollywood, there isn't a ton of screaming or anything. It is mainly the whoosh of the coaster going by that you hear.
Has there been any more major construction spotted? I'll be going to SDC soon and I'll try to get some photos in the area.
I'm headed there on the 17th so I can finally see for myself. I've heard the area past Powderkeg is pretty substantial. I know the post about "Fire in the Ozarks" were a joke, but one has to wonder how accurate that will end up being. It seems like they are preparing quite a bit of area. I don't think there will be a new land, but I can see a coaster going off into that area pretty easily. Their land on that side of the park goes on till the lake pretty much.
Quote from: shavethewhales on May 07, 2025, 11:20:03 AMI've heard the area past Powderkeg is pretty substantial.
Just to clarify, are photos taken on rides with sunglasses not allowed to be posted on here? I had asked before posting and never heard back and now the photos have been deleted. Just want to make sure to not post more in the future if that is the case.
^Sorry, I forgot to respond to that. Since the park explicitly forbids photos taken on rides, we try not to encourage that, even if they are technically taken in a "safe" manner. Theoretically you aren't supposed to wear glasses on rides either, although that is somewhat nebulous and isn't usually enforced.
Quote from: shavethewhales on May 07, 2025, 01:27:36 PM^Sorry, I forgot to respond to that. Since the park explicitly forbids photos taken on rides, we try not to encourage that, even if they are technically taken in a "safe" manner. Theoretically you aren't supposed to wear glasses on rides either, although that is somewhat nebulous and isn't usually enforced.
Got it.
On the glasses... according to the ride guidelines booklet you just have to "take necessary precautions" on most rides. The PowderKeg sign says that glasses/sunglasses should have a strap.
Quote from: shavethewhales on May 07, 2025, 01:27:36 PM^Sorry, I forgot to respond to that. Since the park explicitly forbids photos taken on rides, we try not to encourage that, even if they are technically taken in a "safe" manner. Theoretically you aren't supposed to wear glasses on rides either, although that is somewhat nebulous and isn't usually enforced.
Shave, where are you seeing that glasses aren't allowed on rides? I've never been on a ride where glasses weren't allowed. Even Steel Vengeance's very strict guidelines allows for glasses or sunglasses as long as you have a strap
^They mention it over the speakers pretty often when they say to leave things in the cubbies. I occasionally get told to leave my glasses behind, though they are usually OK on the SDC coasters. Usually I remember my strap as well.
Some construction photos I took recently.
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Apparently image insertion is broken so here is a repost. These were taken around a week ago.
They were still adding fill to that area behind Powderkeg on Saturday. Not sure why they need such a big flat space back there in such a remote location. Makes me wonder if it is just going to be a new backstage area, or if it's part of the new ride. Would love it if we did actually end up with a coaster with indoor/outdoor sections. The clearing is very odd. really makes you wonder what they are doing that necessitated extending AP's tunnel. For just a path extension, they could have just cut out the old Jim Owen's channels and extend the loop from Wildfire to Powderkeg. Perhaps it's better to have more of a straight shot by going over the tunnel area, but it sure is a lot of effort. Must be more than just a path, obviously.
I figured that they extended AP's tunnel to protect riders from construction happening next door with the new coaster project.
Thursday 5.22.25 Update
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2025/05/silver-dollar-city-project-2026.html
Tracker has been updated with current news and rumors. As always rumors are considered rumors until they can be substantiated
Hmmm, if Mack does end up being the manufacturer, it's hard to see which product makes the most sense in that location. If it's like Wiener Looping, then wouldn't that be odd next to Wildfire? If it's like Stardust Racers, then doesn't that look odd next to Powderkeg? Perhaps we're getting a water coaster again. ;D
Macks take on Dollywoods Mystery Mine would be a fantastic addition to the park though I had always suspected they would have used the land where Flooded Mine and the Waterboggan Tower currently sits.
Lost Gravity's layout would be a reference to how the ride would likely be designed. Hopefully it would be better themed though with multiple pass thru elements and tunnels. I also hope this isn't meant to be TNT's replacement thematically. That being said I wish the park would get away from area/ride replacements and focus on additions instead. They have the land and soon to be Resort to justify it.
I really hope it is Mack. Time Traveler has the most comfortable restraints of any coaster I've ever ridden. It's probably unlikely, but I would absolutely love to see the 1st Mack giga.
Quote from: sdcfan88 on May 27, 2025, 02:12:47 PMMacks take on Dollywoods Mystery Mine would be a fantastic addition to the park though I had always suspected they would have used the land where Flooded Mine and the Waterboggan Tower currently sits.
Could you imagine Mack's take on Mystery Mine, but as a Stryker coaster like Voltron!
Quote from: blatym on May 29, 2025, 06:22:39 PMCould you imagine Mack's take on Mystery Mine, but as a Stryker coaster like Voltron!
🫣 😏
Video dropped teasing whats coming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkG2uvGhq7Q
Call me crazy, but RMC sells their first 500 ft T-Rex to Silver Dollar City! ;D
Screamscape reports that they've heard rumors of this being a Thunderation replacement, with Mack being the manufacturer. Anything is possible I guess. TNT is still very popular though, and I was under the impression that it was both one of the easier rides to keep operating and one of the least expensive to maintain? Could be way off on that though, or perhaps that is no longer the case. They have had to rebuild sections several times due to ground shifts, and I feel that got worse when Time Traveler was built. Plus the mysterious loss of the second train does say something...
Quote from: sdcfan88 on May 27, 2025, 02:12:47 PMThat being said I wish the park would get away from area/ride replacements and focus on additions instead. They have the land and soon to be Resort to justify it.
I won't lie, I will be disappointed if its yet another ride replacement. Sadly it is looking more likely. Again it seems corporate is dead set on wanting to get rid of old parts of the park piece by piece over preserving what they have while expanding. Though I would have still logically seen Flooded Mine being the next one to go. TNT was much lower on the list.
I'm betting the worker getting killed was a factor too, possibly as part of an out of court settlement that the ride be retired.
I'm still not convinced that TNT is closing and being replaced.
SDC themselves said at the FITH media event that they were trying to keep TNT open, so why would they break their promise less then two years later? I'm betting on TNT closing next year for a full year refurbishment, with the new ride acting as the de facto "family coaster." New track, supports, a revamped queue, maybe a slight reprofiling to make it smoother, and even new trains (which would explain why they got rid of the second train.) then they could market it like a "new" ride, and it could easily operate another 30+ years. And it would be cheaper than a new coaster since they aren't designing a new one from scratch.
^ I hope you're right. T-N-T was one of our favorites until it got too rough to ride. A new track and trains would be great!
On one of the YouTube rumor videos someone said they could see track in place that "looked 90 degrees" while they were at the top of the American plunge drop and that it "looked wider than usual."
I'm pretty skeptical about that but I'll be at SDC July 18-19 and will try to scope it out and report my findings here.
Quote from: Duelist on June 11, 2025, 12:42:47 PM^ I hope you're right. T-N-T was one of our favorites until it got too rough to ride. A new track and trains would be great!
It's been a few years since we've been, but we've gone a couple of times this year. I found both T-N-T and Outlaw Run too rough to ride again. The rest were fine.
Quote from: rabidplatypus on June 11, 2025, 10:35:08 PMOn one of the YouTube rumor videos someone said they could see track in place that "looked 90 degrees" while they were at the top of the American plunge drop and that it "looked wider than usual."
I'm pretty skeptical about that but I'll be at SDC July 18-19 and will try to scope it out and report my findings here.
Unless I'm completely blind, there is no track in place. We rode PowderKeg, American Plunge, and Wild Fire on Sunday and could just see more of the same dirt work being done.
Yeah I'm skeptical of that report too. When I was there at the end of April, there wasnt even footers in place yet. If there's anything present it would have to be in a staging area first given the timeframe.
I saw on airtime thrills YouTube channel that Dennis Spiegel (who has been in the industry for years) said there is a mystery 1000ft roller coaster project in the works. Could you imagine if that is what SDC is working on! Legend of the Ozarks: The Missouri Monster. The world's tallest fastest roller coaster!
New update on screamescape.
2026/2027 - Unknown New Addition - (6/6/2025) Now that the giant clearing has been revealed at Silver Dollar City for what may be a 2026 or even 2027 project, some rumors are starting to drop about what this may be. The latest rumor sent my way claims that the park may be working on building a highly themed new large scale family mine train coaster that will have at least three lift hills, an on-board audio system and more.
While you might think that Vekoma would be a prime candidate for this, especially after how great their launched Big Bear Mountain coaster turned out at Dollywood, I'm actually hearing that Mack Rides may be involved with this project at Silver Dollar City. It's an interesting choice as most of Mack's coasters with a Mine Train themed actually were powered coasters, but it sounds as if this may be some kind of new prototype design for Mack Rides this time around if this rumor holds true.
Now some of you may be wondering why Silver Dollar City would build a mine train coaster when they already have Thunderation. Well... you may recall that Thunderation took a bit of a beating last year when bad storm blew through the area, and the aging coaster's overall ride experience isn't really that popular with guests anymore either, so the second part of this rumor is that 2026 may be the last season for Thunderation.
Again, all rumors still right now, so we'll have to wait and see how this story turns out.
Quote from: rabidplatypus on June 14, 2025, 04:39:33 PMI saw on airtime thrills YouTube channel that Dennis Spiegel (who has been in the industry for years) said there is a mystery 1000ft roller coaster project in the works. Could you imagine if that is what SDC is working on! Legend of the Ozarks: The Missouri Monster. The world's tallest fastest roller coaster!
Sorry, but I don't think SDC is building that coaster.
First, the attraction is currently being described as a "family attraction"
Second, A 1000ft coaster would stick out like a sore thumb in the park. SDC is known for hiding its rides away in the woods, and there's no way that they could hide a 1000ft coaster.
Personally I'm skeptical that a 1000ft coaster is being built at all, it's such a tall height with G forces too intense for the average person. We're just getting a 600ft coaster in the Middle East, and that coaster is built into a massive mountain!
Quote from: ColaSDC on June 15, 2025, 08:06:14 AMQuote from: rabidplatypus on June 14, 2025, 04:39:33 PMI saw on airtime thrills YouTube channel that Dennis Spiegel (who has been in the industry for years) said there is a mystery 1000ft roller coaster project in the works. Could you imagine if that is what SDC is working on! Legend of the Ozarks: The Missouri Monster. The world's tallest fastest roller coaster!
Sorry, but I don't think SDC is building that coaster.
First, the attraction is currently being described as a "family attraction"
Second, A 1000ft coaster would stick out like a sore thumb in the park. SDC is known for hiding its rides away in the woods, and there's no way that they could hide a 1000ft coaster.
Personally I'm skeptical that a 1000ft coaster is being built at all, it's such a tall height with G forces too intense for the average person. We're just getting a 600ft coaster in the Middle East, and that coaster is built into a massive mountain!
Yea as much as I would love a coaster like that, I do agree it would be a huge eyesore for the park. As for the 1k ft aspect, if it is true, I would suspect there is a big gimmick of some sort to give it its 1kft label. as you are right it would exert a lot of forces on the people trains and track. Unless it were a controlled fall, but why build something so massive for a controlled fall.
You have to remember the thing with YouTube and social media in general is many people try to make crazy outlandish posts that grab attention to drive clicks and engagement. Always ask yourself... "Does this sound realistic?"
I'll take a 100ft mega coaster though!
There's no way there will ever be a 1000ft tall roller coaster. At the speeds needed to achieve that, you'd have to enclose the car, use special wheels, and so on - and in the end it would feel stupid and not like a roller coaster anyway. Not to mention the extreme costs. It's already too expensive to even build another 400ft coaster.
I don't see SDC going taller anytime soon. We've already got a couple "big" coasters in Wildfire and Outlaw Run. Hopefully they'll focus on quality and theming and get more rides that compete with what Disney and Universal are doing rather than focusing on height and inversions.
^ Amen to that!
Quote from: shavethewhales on June 16, 2025, 08:11:14 AMThere's no way there will ever be a 1000ft tall roller coaster. At the speeds needed to achieve that, you'd have to enclose the car, use special wheels, and so on - and in the end it would feel stupid and not like a roller coaster anyway. Not to mention the extreme costs. It's already too expensive to even build another 400ft coaster.
I don't see SDC going taller anytime soon. We've already got a couple "big" coasters in Wildfire and Outlaw Run. Hopefully they'll focus on quality and theming and get more rides that compete with what Disney and Universal are doing rather than focusing on height and inversions.
I agree with no 1000 foot coaster ever being built but nobody thought there would be a 600 footer and yet there is one now. I disagree on the height comment. The most glaring need is an airtime filled giga. Fury 325 instantly transformed Carowinds into a destination park. A similar coaster would do the same for SDC, coinciding with the opening of the resort.
I'm certainly not in charge, but I don't think SDC wants to be a roller coaster park. Sure, it's a far cry today from the 80's and 90's, but I still see it more akin to Disney (family focus) than Universal (teen/adult focus). Putting in a giga wouldn't be in line with the family focus, in my opinion. Right now there still exists a blend of something for everyone. As I get older (47 with 19 and 17 year old kids), I am not looking for more extreme record breaking rides, and that's not why we go specifically to SDC. But maybe I'm not the target audience anymore, and to each their own.
I really do not want to see SDC become a coaster park. So,A giga or Hyper does not interest me at all. Time Traveler was supposed to be a game changer that would bring people from all over the world. And it did but the new wears off so its on to the next thing that is the worlds somethingist. Keep expanding in a controlled way and keep the charm of the park.
Quote from: runner1960 on June 17, 2025, 02:18:49 PMI really do not want to see SDC become a coaster park. So,A giga or Hyper does not interest me at all. Time Traveler was supposed to be a game changer that would bring people from all over the world. And it did but the new wears off so its on to the next thing that is the worlds somethingist. Keep expanding in a controlled way and keep the charm of the park.
The old timers have been saying that for many years. It's a theme park, not the latest greatest biggest tallest fastest coaster park.
So I checked out the rumor list from swoosh again, and the ride is now described as "a thrill ride that the family can enjoy." So I still think a hyper could be in the works. Hypers aren't too intense, and are crowd pleasers. As much as I would love a giga, it would be too tall for the park and too intense for the average guest. A hyper could be Under 200ft tall, and use the land to have a 200ft drop.
Construction photos from Thursday 6/19
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2025/06/silver-dollar-city-project-2026.html
Google Earth satellite imagery for SDC has been updated. The imagery is from April 21 of this year. It gives a bit of perspective about this current project, even if it is from 2 months ago.
The "Giant Footers" quote is interesting. So B&M type footers similar to Wildfire? As we know with TT Mack uses the smaller and roundish footers for their support system.
Also I was poking around YouTube and people are still talking about wide track pieces being staged. Not sure on the validity of that. If thats true that sounds like a B&M Wing or even a Diver. If its the latter, hopefully its well themed and thoughtfully laid out beyond just a steep drop and some turns.
I don't think we can accurately guess what manufacturer it is based off a footer description, as Mack has also done large square footers for their Stryker coaster. Hopefully the footer garden grows within the next few weeks so we can get a better look at them.
As more details start to come out I can definitely envision a Mack Stryker coaster in this area. Maybe it'll interact with WildFire and Powder Keg and going over and below them at points and going out to the woods. I am taking the Screamscape rumor of it being a Mack mine train coaster with three lifthills with a grain of salt for right now.
I was hoping they'd do something cool with the waterfall and the path going from plunge to powder keg like a river that leads to the waterfall that you'd have to cross, but with the retaining wall that idea seems to be shot. I'd love to see more water features like the one next to Wagonworks, flowing creeks just add so much to the area.
^Those are still pretty small when you compare to the ones used for Wildfire. Unless the ride is gonna be 150+ tall or include a lot of G-forces to support such a large footer, Mack usually runs clusters of smaller footers under their track supports but I do agree and I have said from the beginning that I think the rumor of this coaster being a replacement for ThuNderaTion is a red herring tactic. Its like the "Wild Mountain" and "Lost Caverns" ride rumors used for their past projects. https://mack-rides.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/hypercoaster_gallery_1.jpg
The clearing so far also indicates a possible "out-n-back" type layout depending on whether they plan to wrap it around Outlaw and along the new maintenance road as well. Again I may be a bit bias hoping for a local wing or hyper coaster, but either way we will know soon. August is right around the corner.
after the update swoosh made to the rumor list saying its a "thrill ride that can be enjoyed by the family", I really think it will be a hypercoaster. The plot of land is too large for a compact stryker coaster (though i would love a stryker), and the footers are large enough to be a hyper. Whether its a mack or b&m is a toss up, but as sdcfan88 pointed out, the footers are a similar size for a b&m, and rumor has it the track is quite large and wide. if it is a dive, while it could be themed quite well, i would be concerned that the layout would be too generic. i would hope that sdc would pushb for a dive layout that is not "big drop + dive loop + vertical loop + mid course break run + zero g roll + helix + final break run. a wing coaster would be cool, but im struggling to think of how it would be themed. the flying machine has been taken by wildfire, and other solutions would be too fantastical/fantasy IMO.
It's probably wishful thinking by me, but I've got to think they want something to draw people in, paired with the resort, and stated $500 million investment over 10 years. What better draw than the tallest, and fastest coaster in a several state region
I can actually rule out the Dive Coaster. Why? SFOT is getting one next year: https://www.coaster101.com/2025/02/21/six-flags-over-texas-2026-dive-coaster/
Not sure if the clause is still valid or just an enthusiast rumor but IIRC B&M has a rule that no two coasters of the same type can be debuted in the same year.
With that being said, here is an article with some of their well known hypercoasters. Note the layouts and footer style: https://bm-list.oldehanhoff.nl/?page_id=45
A non launching B&M Wing Coaster would be unique to the region too. If not building off of the old flying machine theme, they could still do a wildlife theme as a counterpart to Wild Eagle at Dollywood.
However, depending on how fast they could construct it, there is a Mack hypercoaster model but only 4 examples exist from them. https://rcdb.com/r.htm?ot=2&ml=14441 None are in the USA. I am skeptical of this outcome (remember that Mack builds and ships in all their components from Germany) as I feel we should have seen things go vertical if you go by the construction timeline of Time Traveler. This would be much bigger. Even for the smaller Stryker model, we should have seen some vertical construction on site by now.
You do bring up good points with the footers, I personally haven't seen them yet so in my mind any footer can be a giant one I guess haha. However, two standard B&M's right next to each other would rather silly in my mind, especially if one of them is just a taller version of the older one right next to it. The I think there has to be some kind of gimmick with this coaster, no matter the manufacturer, because it'll be sandwiched between a WF and PK. It'll need something to stand out. Maybe Screamscape was correct with it being a new prototype?
Or maybe Buzzsaw Falls is coming back with Mack's water coaster ::)
Quote from: legoerosion on June 25, 2025, 02:07:41 PMYou do bring up good points with the footers, I personally haven't seen them yet so in my mind any footer can be a giant one I guess haha. However, two standard B&M's right next to each other would rather silly in my mind, especially if one of them is just a taller version of the older one right next to it. The I think there has to be some kind of gimmick with this coaster, no matter the manufacturer, because it'll be sandwiched between a WF and PK. It'll need something to stand out. Maybe Screamscape was correct with it being a new prototype?
Or maybe Buzzsaw Falls is coming back with Mack's water coaster ::)
Actually, a b&m hyper wouldn't be redundant to wildfire, side wildfire is focused on inversions, and a hyper would be an airtime coaster. I do agree it needs something to stand out, so maybe it's a wing hyper? That would distinguish it from both wildfire and wild eagle at Dollywood.
1. Every thrill coaster at SDC is considered a family thrill coaster
2. Interesting that some of you know the size of the footers as I couldn't even get the exact size from my viewings on the rides
3. There is no track or supports on site or back stage. Whomever is saying that is full of crap.
4. Keep an eye on the import sites
What Swoosh said. 1, there are NO track or supports on site, yet. 2, there are NO footers in place yet. Watching the speculation is quite comical though :D
Quote from: ColaSDC on June 25, 2025, 03:41:32 PMActually, a b&m hyper wouldn't be redundant to wildfire, side wildfire is focused on inversions, and a hyper would be an airtime coaster. I do agree it needs something to stand out, so maybe it's a wing hyper? That would distinguish it from both wildfire and wild eagle at Dollywood.
It wouldn't be redundant to us thoosies, but it will be to the general public. Same looking trains (in their eyes), same looking track type, the only difference that they would see at the park is that one is taller than the other (I doubt that we will see much of this ride from the path/station). I'd love a hyper as much as anyone else, but I can't see it being that with it being next to Wildfire. A wing would be sweet though.
Quote from: sdcfan88 on June 25, 2025, 10:27:01 AM^Those are still pretty small when you compare to the ones used for Wildfire. Unless the ride is gonna be 150+ tall or include a lot of G-forces to support such a large footer, Mack usually runs clusters of smaller footers under their track supports but I do agree and I have said from the beginning that I think the rumor of this coaster being a replacement for ThuNderaTion is a red herring tactic. Its like the "Wild Mountain" and "Lost Caverns" ride rumors used for their past projects. https://mack-rides.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/hypercoaster_gallery_1.jpg
The clearing so far also indicates a possible "out-n-back" type layout depending on whether they plan to wrap it around Outlaw and along the new maintenance road as well. Again I may be a bit bias hoping for a local wing or hyper coaster, but either way we will know soon. August is right around the corner.
Did the park say that's when they are revealing the ride, or is that when they traditionally do it?
^ August has been the reveal month for rides for a long time now. Right before Season Passes go on sale in October :)
Nice I'm going there July 18-19 for my birthday it will be nice to lay eyes on the construction for myself.
It will be interesting to see if they do any biggest, tallest, fastest type marketing with this. Or something to top that 95 foot tall loop from TT if it's indeed another Mack creation. Lol
Quote from: sdcfan88 on June 27, 2025, 02:04:44 PMIt will be interesting to see if they do any biggest, tallest, fastest type marketing with this. Or something to top that 95 foot tall loop from TT if it's indeed another Mack creation. Lol
yes that's what I was wondering. With the exception of fire in the hole, their last 3 rides have been "record breaking" in some category.
I posted some photos of the resort construction. It's now gone vertical.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CXK1P4nPo/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Looks like the back side of the Lumbercamp waterfall had a concrete slab poured and is covered by a tarp. I originally thought it was rock work, but looking at it more, it looks like a tarp and not what is typically used as a base for rock work.
Photos: https://www.facebook.com/share/1B2jcmZ1iE/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Sorry for the FB links, but I can't seem to find a way to post photos here without having to upload them somewhere else and then use those links to embed them here.
It has changed. The back is covered by a tarp or something now. I know it's not a major change, but it is something new.
Also, the my post before that was about the resort going vertical.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DfB70zbR/IMG-6421.jpg)
Oh. You're talking about the new facade on the back of Lumbercamp Falls. Your wording made it sound like you were talking about the cement slab which has been there for months.
Yes the backside of Lumbercamp Falls is now covered in fake rock work
Quote from: sdcfan88 on June 25, 2025, 09:01:43 AMThe "Giant Footers" quote is interesting. So B&M type footers similar to Wildfire? As we know with TT Mack uses the smaller and roundish footers for their support system.
Also I was poking around YouTube and people are still talking about wide track pieces being staged. Not sure on the validity of that. If thats true that sounds like a B&M Wing or even a Diver. If its the latter, hopefully its well themed and thoughtfully laid out beyond just a steep drop and some turns.
Would you happen to know where on YouTube people are talking about these track pieces? Like any channel in specific? I havent seen much on YouTube about the construction.
I was also wondering, has anyone got a clear shot of the footers yet?
The only one saying "B&M" is sdcfan and he's wrong more than he is right about things.
Just like he ran with "Big Footer" - no there's a big hole for footers. More than likely it's a slab with one or more. And no photo is possible unless you break the rules.
I also think you're forgetting how fast Time Traveler came together
Quote from: Swoosh on July 06, 2025, 08:05:33 PMThe only one saying "B&M" is sdcfan and he's wrong more than he is right about things.
Just like he ran with "Big Footer" - no there's a big hole for footers. More than likely it's a slab with one or more. And no photo is possible unless you break the rules.
I also think you're forgetting how fast Time Traveler came together
Lol thanks for the shoutout, yes people can speculate but the hard truth is your word isn't always the end-all be-all either. So if I'm wrong here in the end too, so what? Nobody is keeping score. Stop being a narcissist on this board. You have been this way for years and people are sick of it. Get off your high horse.
The August announcement is coming soon anyways, so to avoid stirring the pot further I will just echo what was cited in the "old" 2026 thread and leave it at that.
Quote from: tmstephe on February 09, 2025, 07:40:44 AMThat's exactly my point - we all love SDC and enjoy speculating, discussing, etc. I just get so tired of the "I know something but I'm not going to tell you" game Swoosh plays. I was simply asking him to either share what he knows or just wait to post something concrete. We all know the value he can bring (and I also enjoy his personal website), but his most recent post of "if you don't like it I'll just take my ball and go home" further proves my point. I don't want to attack anyone or inflame the situation. I just want actual news about SDC when I come here. Thanks for listening and trying to consider my perspective the same way you've asked me to understand his.
Quote from: CedarPoint2700 on July 06, 2025, 10:27:01 PMLol, Ima trust my source who works in the park. And TT was just off the path, you aint putting this coaster right off the path, you will require an area to get there. The area is not ready, and wont be till 2027, its a field of literal dirt and rocks right now. Cap, if you work at the park you can get a good photo without breaking the "rules" And Ive heard so many people say "B&M Giga for 2027"
I think I'm going to follow Swooosh's nuggets of information over a random source that's probably a ride op, mainly due to Swooosh's near perfect track record of this stuff. They hardly ever tell any employees what projects are happening, and I worked there when they were building the worst kept secret of the park. Nothing was said by anybody until the announcement date for FiTH.
I do find it weird how you're touting this source like it's gospel but you're still trying to get info that your source at OR surely has access to. Didn't you also say in a previous response that you ruled out a giga personally?
Quote from: CedarPoint2700 on July 06, 2025, 11:17:10 PMYeah except my source isnt just a ride op, hes worked at the park for over 12 years, and hes team lead\supervisor at Outlaw Run and Powder Keg. He knows more but cant say any more, he knows the manufacture and the type of ride, he just wont release it. Im sorry but youd be delusional to trust a random name on the internet over a ride op supervisor at the park. Yes you can pretty much rule out a Giga, Im sorry if your hopes were that bro, but he said "Dont get your hopes up for any high thrill attraction, dont expect anything over 200 feet" Im touting the source cause its more valuable than "swoosh" lol, the information is passed along from maintenance, there, get what you want? since you wanna doubt and throw a fit.
And why should we trust a random name on the internet who claims to have his source be a team lead of an attraction (which is a just glorified team member II) over someone who has a near-perfect track record on this forum in regards to new attractions..?
Getting pissy about me doubting you isn't helping your case either. You're merely the dipping dots guy at this point.
lol I'm not sure what we are arguing about but be chill. Speculate all you want. Believe what you want. It doesn't matter. Sometimes the people designing these projects don't even know where it's going to end up ;D
General rule though: don't drag employees into this. They can theoretically get in trouble for it. Just say you heard it from a good source. It doesn't matter if people believe you or not - all rumors on this site can be taken or left as an individual sees fit. This is just for fun.
Quote from: CedarPoint2700 on July 07, 2025, 01:47:49 AM... Lol and who are you to be talking you dont have any information, Im very sorry I heart your feelings and youre butt hurt that you just found out what you wanted the park to get isnt happening, boo hoo cry me a river. Its okay though, youre in the denial stage of grief, we all go trough it, if you need to seek help I have some great therapist I know, I can get info on which ones are great from my sources, oh let me guest youd rather trust some other guy cause why not. haha
And I'm the one with the "hurt feelings" ::) it isn't that serious broski
Just putting it out there, I only report things that can be substantiated. I'm sorry if that's boring. When I report something it's something that you can go see for yourself. Sure there's plenty of "murmurs" behind the scene, but I also know that corporate likes to play games and I have no idea at times if they're telling certain people one thing in order to find leaks (has happened before) and it's not worth the risk.
No hard feelings... all good
Going to sdc next Friday and Saturday for my birthday! It's been 5 years can't wait! SDC is my favorite place not just theme park wise but my favorite place on earth period!
Speculative musing for thought: what if they are building a GCI woodie and calling it Ozark Wildcat to pay homage to the original at celebration city?
Quote from: rabidplatypus on July 12, 2025, 01:34:13 PMGoing to sdc next Friday and Saturday for my birthday! It's been 5 years can't wait! SDC is my favorite place not just theme park wise but my favorite place on earth period!
Speculative musing for thought: what if they are building a GCI woodie and calling it Ozark Wildcat to pay homage to the original at celebration city?
If that was the case, we'd see slab footers being created as GCI almost exclusively uses this building technique now.
Oh I hadn't seen or heard anything about the footers yet.
While the past few coasters have had a "record breaking" aspect to them, I feel this one won't have any of that but will rather be a "complete ride" that will be a great experience and be able to draw enthusiasts without the "records".
Here at sdc and just got off of powder keg and on the lift hill I was able to see something that looked identical to a support beam. This was a big black one that was as big as wildfires if not bigger. I could be wrong but from what I saw in the quick few seconds looked like a support beam.
Shouldn't there be a teaser campaign out by now? Or are we the teaser campaign? :) I figured in August there would be an actual announcement.
Quote from: Duelist on July 13, 2025, 03:29:07 PMShouldn't there be a teaser campaign out by now? Or are we the teaser campaign? :) I figured in August there would be an actual announcement.
Thats what I am saying. Im starting to have serious doubts that this is a 2026 attraction. There has been no teasing which is just not how SDC does things. Hope to be wrong but seems to me this may be 2027.
Google maps has been updated with a new photo since the clearing started.
Where is the supposed footer? I thought I saw one while riding PowderKeg, but then the next time I looked, it was just gravel.
(https://i.postimg.cc/hjKjGBKY/temp-Image-TPsx-K1.avif)
Quote from: mg on July 14, 2025, 02:02:42 PMGoogle maps has been updated with a new photo since the clearing started.
Where is the supposed footer? I thought I saw one while riding PowderKeg, but then the next time I looked, it was just gravel.
Looks like that satilite imagery is from 4/21, which puts it before the rumored footers were put in
Quote from: legoerosion on July 14, 2025, 02:16:34 PMQuote from: mg on July 14, 2025, 02:02:42 PMGoogle maps has been updated with a new photo since the clearing started.
Where is the supposed footer? I thought I saw one while riding PowderKeg, but then the next time I looked, it was just gravel.
Looks like that satilite imagery is from 4/21, which puts it before the rumored footers were put in
Correct... I wasn't meaning that you could see them in the photo. But if this photo was taken after they were placed, what general area would they be in?
Looking at the google map the clearing around Outlaw Run and the backstage areas is much more impressive. Any thoughts about this area?
Quote from: cowboy on July 14, 2025, 04:36:28 PMLooking at the google map the clearing around Outlaw Run and the backstage areas is much more impressive. Any thoughts about this area?
I see this has the next big expansion. Dollywood has done so with their park and I see silver dollar city following in their footsteps. Only concern I see is moving backstage areas and the long walk it would take to get there. With employees being another thing I sort of worry about. During the slower parts of the season I tend to see rides staffed much lower than they should be. And with a whole new area they would need to move some employees or up the pay to hire some more workers.
I think that clearing is simply a backstage service road. It connects the back of the park to some of the key backstage areas and the main road. It's massive due to the amount of grading required to make it passable for large trucks. Guessing this will become a primary haul route for the park for many back of house things. I also originally thought it was too huge to just be BOH, but the satellite view makes it clearer.
I'm wondering what they needed the flat area for to the west of PK, but that is probably also a new back of house area for things like landscaping greenhouses, storage, or whatever. If this is going to be a coaster, it looks like it will be sandwiched between PK and wildfire. Since they are now clear cutting all the trees around coasters, this is probably a good thing.
I don't think they will expand the park much more beyond the area they have now. It's already as large as most parks. You can't get too big or it's burdensome on guests to get around to everything, especially with the hills.
I completely disagree about them not expanding much beyond the current area. They have announced $500 million over the next 10 years, of which only $100 million is for the resort. Also SDC is one of the smaller parks by acreage. It is roughly only 35% of the size of Dollywood, 15% the size of Cedar Point or Kings Island, and much smaller than most of the Orlando Parks
Quote from: mg on July 14, 2025, 02:32:55 PMCorrect... I wasn't meaning that you could see them in the photo. But if this photo was taken after they were placed, what general area would they be in?
I see, my bad for misunderstanding what you were asking.
I as to the speculation about the next expansion, I can see them moving M&C to the clearing near OR and using that spot next to FiTH/Mystic river as a decent expansion. But I personally think that the next project after this project will be where the original FiTH was and that back area.
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It's never bad to pay employees more :)
It's never bad to pay employees more :)
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It may never be bad, but it doesn't happen for nothing. You either have to bring more people to the park or charge more for tickets.
True.
Also, I would worry about the social media rollout. They've been teasing something for a while, and come August I'm confident we'll know what.
I think if they were going to announce it this year, the teaser campaign would be more intense than it has been. There's been a few bits here and there since they can't hide that work is happening, but not like a big build up to a big new ride.
Most likely, we'll see the pathway connector open up next year, but the new ride is coming in 27. Unless there's more than one "thing".
Quote from: legoerosion on July 15, 2025, 09:10:13 AMI as to the speculation about the next expansion, I can see them moving M&C to the clearing near OR and using that spot next to FiTH/Mystic river as a decent expansion. But I personally think that the next project after this project will be where the original FiTH was and that back area.
With speculation surrounding the old FITH building/site, and a possible future replacement for FM, I'm wondering if there would be any possibility that they would eventually level FM and repurpose that area for expanded retail/demos, as well as a larger and improved loading station for the train? At the same time, leveling the original FITH building to build a larger and more advanced Flooded Mine replacement or indoor dark ride.
As the park seemingly stretches westward, I think it will be critical to retain an indoor ride option that offers much needed refuge from the elements on that side of the park. With the closing of the original FITH, the park is absent of that from a ride perspective right now.
Quote from: BackInTime on July 17, 2025, 03:44:46 PMQuote from: legoerosion on July 15, 2025, 09:10:13 AMI as to the speculation about the next expansion, I can see them moving M&C to the clearing near OR and using that spot next to FiTH/Mystic river as a decent expansion. But I personally think that the next project after this project will be where the original FiTH was and that back area.
With speculation surrounding the old FITH building/site, and a possible future replacement for FM, I'm wondering if there would be any possibility that they would eventually level FM and repurpose that area for expanded retail/demos, as well as a larger and improved loading station for the train? At the same time, leveling the original FITH building to build a larger and more advanced Flooded Mine replacement or indoor dark ride.
As the park seemingly stretches westward, I think it will be critical to retain an indoor ride option that offers much needed refuge from the elements on that side of the park. With the closing of the original FITH, the park is absent of that from a ride perspective right now.
What is M & C and FM???
Quote from: Jesus4me on July 17, 2025, 08:05:41 PMWhat is M & C and FM???
M&C = maintenance and construction
FM = Flooded Mine
Quote from: BackInTime on July 17, 2025, 03:44:46 PMQuote from: legoerosion on July 15, 2025, 09:10:13 AMI as to the speculation about the next expansion, I can see them moving M&C to the clearing near OR and using that spot next to FiTH/Mystic river as a decent expansion. But I personally think that the next project after this project will be where the original FiTH was and that back area.
With speculation surrounding the old FITH building/site, and a possible future replacement for FM, I'm wondering if there would be any possibility that they would eventually level FM and repurpose that area for expanded retail/demos, as well as a larger and improved loading station for the train? At the same time, leveling the original FITH building to build a larger and more advanced Flooded Mine replacement or indoor dark ride.
As the park seemingly stretches westward, I think it will be critical to retain an indoor ride option that offers much needed refuge from the elements on that side of the park. With the closing of the original FITH, the park is absent of that from a ride perspective right now.
There's been speculation about FM being leveled for a long time now. It seemed like they would retire it on it's 50th season, but that was over ten years ago. There was speculation at one point that we'd get our version of mystery mine to replace it. Then eventually we got Time Traveler instead.
I still think it's days are numbered, but there are too many higher priority things for them to do first. I think that's the only reason it has remained in place for the last decade.
^ Like you've said previously though FM is low maintenance. And since they just replaced the guns with newer better versions it shouldn't be going anywhere for awhile. And if they do replace it they need to put in a modernized version with better animatronics. It's still one of the best family rides and needs to remain that way.
Agree with all, although, my main motivation for bringing it up actually centers more on what might be planned for the old FITH site. That is valuable real estate just sitting there unused in an extremely high traffic area of the park. And as I mentioned, the absence of an indoor ride attraction on that side of the property really creates a void at the moment. With them having re-located FITH to the opposite side of its original location, it just got me to wondering and very inquisitive about whether or not a possible new FM could eventually live on the former FITH site, and what the PTB will ultimately do with that space.
Photos from today on my X account @Midwest_Info
Will get them on my blog tomorrow
New M&C is already under construction behind the hotel. Frame is already up. That whole area (where M&C and other BOH buildings are located) is (rumored) to become an expansion plot
Quote from: shavethewhales on July 18, 2025, 10:15:02 AMThere's been speculation about FM being leveled for a long time now. It seemed like they would retire it on it's 50th season, but that was over ten years ago.
You shut your lying mouth! FM won't be 50 for another 20 years or so, because I'm just...
Oh. Never mind.
Man it's been 7 years since I have been to SDC and today wasn't a good day. All coasters were down for hours today. At 1 point they were all down at the same time. Didn't get to ride outlaw run it was down 90% of the day.
Mystic River falls was elite. The drone and fireworks show was great.
Badgered everybody I could about construction and got nowhere as expected. It was just more for fun not to actually get any info.
Did ask thunderation operators if this was the last year it would be running and they all said absolutely not. Sad to see the second train missing. It ran faster than I remember. It also runs smoother than expected except for the first down helix and in the tunnel. Shooting out of that tunnel all the way to the station is smooth as butter.
Are we sure part of the construction isn't for American plunge? They have some log boats and other things above the tunnel just sitting. And some of the construction looks like boat channels.
I asked a group of AP operators if they were improving/adding on to AP with that construction and one of the ladies said "Yes we are just" until she was cut off by another that said we know nothing about the construction. I said you may have slipped up and she smiled and nodded. Obviously I am probably being trolled and don't take any stock into that interaction. But the construction still looks boat ride-ish to me there and behind the waterfall.
That doesn't explain any of the footers that have been spotted though. Anyways just making conversation.
Quote from: rabidplatypus on July 19, 2025, 12:10:58 AMDid ask thunderation operators if this was the last year it would be running and they all said absolutely not. Sad to see the second train missing. It ran faster than I remember. It also runs smoother than expected except for the first down helix and in the tunnel. Shooting out of that tunnel all the way to the station is smooth as butter.
Chance Rides builds replacement trains for Arrow coasters. The park should purchasw two new trains.
Quote from: Jesus4me on July 19, 2025, 09:29:46 PMQuote from: rabidplatypus on July 19, 2025, 12:10:58 AMDid ask thunderation operators if this was the last year it would be running and they all said absolutely not. Sad to see the second train missing. It ran faster than I remember. It also runs smoother than expected except for the first down helix and in the tunnel. Shooting out of that tunnel all the way to the station is smooth as butter.
Chance Rides builds replacement trains for Arrow coasters. The park should purchasw two new trains.
I'm still thinking that next year thunderation will close for a major refurbishment, with new track, trains, and supports. Maybe some slight reprofiling to smooth out transitions. Project 2026 will help alleviate the lost capacity from TNT next year. They could market it like new FiTH.
Yea it does have the classic jerky arrow transitions. But the layout is killer so if there is any work I hope it stays the same. And I hope the trains keep the same look too.
Quote from: rabidplatypus on July 20, 2025, 11:43:16 AMYea it does have the classic jerky arrow transitions. But the layout is killer so if there is any work I hope it stays the same. And I hope the trains keep the same look too.
Yeah, my dream is the same classic layout with smoother transitions
Quote from: rabidplatypus on July 19, 2025, 08:01:51 PMAre we sure part of the construction isn't for American plunge? They have some log boats and other things above the tunnel just sitting. And some of the construction looks like boat channels.
I asked a group of AP operators if they were improving/adding on to AP with that construction and one of the ladies said "Yes we are just" until she was cut off by another that said we know nothing about the construction. I said you may have slipped up and she smiled and nodded. Obviously I am probably being trolled and don't take any stock into that interaction. But the construction still looks boat ride-ish to me there and behind the waterfall.
That doesn't explain any of the footers that have been spotted though. Anyways just making conversation.
What you are probably seeing is the old Jim Owen's channels, which have been left there for decades. The water for AP actually circulates through these channels. Not sure why they never cut them off before now. Up until a few years ago I think some of the original props from Jim Owens were still back there along the old channel.
According to the latest MIG update, Swoosh seems to think the station will be located in the clearing right up in the middle of AP. I was hoping it would be pushed back a little more and that this area would be used for more stores/pathway connector/themeing/etc. It's going to feel odd with so many rides right on top of each other in this area all of a sudden.
For 20 years Wildfire, AP, and PK have been right next to each other and yet felt so far apart.
Yea I couldnt believe how close AP and PK are to each other. They feel like they are the length of the park apart, but seeing them next to each other with the trees cleared was quite shocking actually.
I wonder if they open a new loop to go from PK dead end/observation area to entrance area of WF. That would help relieve some of the traffic jam at the bottom of Hugo's Hill St.
Man the lack of news is bumming me out. Dollywoods new ride is getting a teaser campaign and all sorts of new interesting pictures. I know the construction there is more exposed than SDC, but still. SDC isn't even trolling at this point. Everything is sealed shut right now. :-X *Sigh* I'm just an impatient person...
That is definitely an indication that the larger part of this new expansion isn't coming until 2027. We know "something" is coming in 2026, but at this point I am guessing it is only the pathway connector and perhaps a new food stand or something else along it. If the new ride was coming, they'd be saying something by now. Announcements for next year should be coming in the next few weeks.
I'm wondering about attendance and if that could be why it now appears to be for 2027.
The calendar was adjusted last week:
Adjusted Hours on These Fridays:
The park will have slightly earlier closing times on:
• Sept 12, 19, 26
• Oct 3
• Nov 21
• Dec 5, 12
Date Changes:
The park will now be closed on Sept 8, Oct 22, Nov 25, and Dec 17.
Honestly, with the resort opening in "late" 2026 I could see them deviate from their normal "ride open on opening day" and move the opening date to coincide with the resort's grand opening.