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Silver Dollar City & Celebration City Discussion => Construction/Rumors => Topic started by: DocSpeleo on January 05, 2009, 10:03:13 PM

Title: Train Tracks...
Post by: DocSpeleo on January 05, 2009, 10:03:13 PM
I was walking through the Park today... in the very merry month of... well January..

anyway.. I saw this...
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w175/mrsumner/sdc015a.jpg)

anyone know why the tracks were missing?
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: sdcforever on January 05, 2009, 10:10:36 PM
That's interesting.  I wonder what's up?
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: SteamFreak on January 05, 2009, 10:28:05 PM
They've been doing some re-routing to make room for the new ride I'd guess, also, train tracks and ties have to be changed out periodically, I'm sure SDC doesn't keep the kind of heavy equipment to change out the ties with, so it must be done by hand, the old fashioned way.
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: Coaster on January 06, 2009, 05:46:45 PM
Maintenance work most likely?
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: KBCraig on January 06, 2009, 08:33:10 PM
That's about the amount of track you'd remove to install a switch. Is there room to put in a branch at that location?

Rails aren't removed to replace crossties.

(I used to work a section gang on the KCS.)
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: shavethewhales on January 06, 2009, 08:49:29 PM
Where exactly is this at? It looks like it may be behind either the Tree House or FITH. If it's behind the tree house, maybe they've removed the track so that they can get the demo stuff in to take the tree house down, or to put in a water main for the Splash Battle.
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: Zephon on January 06, 2009, 09:44:13 PM
I would guess that is at the crossing by the Pottery Shop/Flooded Mine looking back toward the Waterboggan.  And yes, it's probably just routine maintenance.

I spent two winters back in the early 80's running a "gandy-dancer" (track repair) crew out there.  We went around the whole circuit replacing ties and track as needed.  When the track was ok but the ties needed replaced, we used a backhoe to push/pull the old one out and put the new one in.  Then we had to tamp up the ties, forcing gravel under them to bring them up against the track, using a light jackhammer with a spade bit.  Replacing rails was tricky too because you had to get the joints to fitting smoothly and yet leave a gap to allow for expansion.  It was hard work.  Driving spikes isn't fun either.
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: dkparks on January 06, 2009, 09:47:39 PM
Actually, I have to agree with KB and shave. I have never seen any railroad remove that much rail to simply change some ties. Also, I have never seen them replace that many ties in a row, typically they replace every 4th or so, depending on the quality of the ties. They would remove those to install a switch as the ties would need to be much longer.
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: SteamFreak on January 06, 2009, 10:36:17 PM
Well I stand corrected, just seemed to me that it might have been easier for a small operation like SDC's. Yeah, looks like a switch could be the answer.
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: Coaster on January 07, 2009, 06:58:30 PM
I don't know much about trains so mine was just a guess.
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: DocSpeleo on January 08, 2009, 08:28:39 PM
This is located by the crossing gate by Waterboggan and Flooded Mine.. I can't see a switch going in there - No where for it to go...

I'm agreeing with Zephon.. He did the job once upon a time.. lol
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: History Buff on January 08, 2009, 08:33:57 PM
I have a reliable source that tells me that's where the new inversion will be - a first steam powered loop in the industry!
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: SteamFreak on January 09, 2009, 08:15:32 AM
I wouldn't want to be the engenieer to test that out. Maybe they'll use those super power logs from Back to the Future III?
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: History Buff on January 09, 2009, 04:30:58 PM
^Yup.  'Cept our "Doc" found a way to make 'em cheaper than Marty's "Doc".
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: SteamFreak on January 09, 2009, 09:21:09 PM
Wildfire Fuel maybe.....
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: Zephon on January 09, 2009, 11:54:48 PM
If Ralphie and Alphie start serving their new "Bolen Baked Beans" to their victims, that would allow just enough time to work up a grand expulsion at about that point in the track for the extra boost.

From the looks of that picture, it appears that a lot of dirt has washed down into the gravel bed.  That tends to retain water which is not good for the ties.  I suspect they have cleared enough track to facilitate scooping out the old gravel bed and laying down another.
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: rubedugans on January 30, 2009, 11:02:20 AM
Speaking of the Bolen boys, I know that Ralphie was a real person in the area, was Alfie fictitious? I have never seen any account or info on him, I assume it would have been hard for one guy to carry on a robbery, and make jokes by himself, which is most likely why they came up with Alfie. Again, I am assuming...
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: History Buff on January 30, 2009, 04:13:55 PM
Anything to do with "brothers" Ralph and Alf on Green Acres?
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: dkparks on January 31, 2009, 08:12:52 AM
Hey Doc. What happened in the area of the missing track. Can you update us?
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: Zephon on January 31, 2009, 04:49:29 PM
It is as I suspected.  They have scraped off the old bed of gravel which had a lot of dirt mixed in with it.  You can see that in the picture.  I noticed yesterday that they have made a new access hole, for a cutoff valve of some type (water or maybe gas) I assume, and then they will go back with a new bed of gravel to lay new ties on.  When too much dirt washes down into the gravel bed, it retains moisture longer which in turn causes the ties to rot out quicker. 
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: DocSpeleo on February 03, 2009, 02:32:01 PM
Thx Zephon for the update i haven't been back to the park in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: Zephon on February 24, 2009, 05:28:02 PM
Happened to go by there today, the tracks are back in place with a new bed of gravel under them.  Oh, and sorry fellas....no new loop. 
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: SteamFreak on October 12, 2009, 01:44:18 PM
Alfie is the real chacter, ralfie was made up to give the show a bigger cast. Alfie was one mean son-of-a-gun from Forsythe
Title: Re: Train Tracks...
Post by: rubedugans on October 12, 2009, 02:20:50 PM
Thanks Steam, I had wondered for some time about that, and after not finding any info on him I , as I said, assumed he was fictitious!

I did happen across this during research
http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/periodicals/bittersweet/sp83b.htm (http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/periodicals/bittersweet/sp83b.htm)

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/alf.jpg)