I was looking at the map this morning at the SDC website. Interesting to note.
1. Strawberrys and Cream (in the path next to the saloon) and the island behind it containing plants is missing. There is a clear pathway from the saloon to FITH (chip stand is still there)
2. The Opera house is depicted to be painted very bright colors, I am hopping that they don't change the color palate Or if they do its not this selection, I know that artists take liberties when painting these maps and I hope the color chosen was part of the artistic liberty and not a planned change.
Anything you see that I have missed?
I looked at the website map MH, and I looked at the map from my OTC pathfinder.. they are the same, in the area.. I don't see any variances anywhere, (yet).
I find it hard to beieve that the PTB would have the updated map for the new season already.. But I would not speculate to when they would change it.... IF they change it at all..
Small changes to look for-
The Strawberries and Cream building has been completely rebuilt and upgraded.
There is no change in the color scheme of the Opera House that I'm aware of.
The porch of the Playhouse behind the hotdog stand is being revamped.
Some of the old decrepit towers on top of the Flooded Mine have been removed before they fall down.
The tower entrance to the Lumbercamp restaurant has been rebuilt.
No ride upgrades or work inside attractions?
Quote from: Zephon on February 24, 2016, 08:41:20 PM
Some of the old decrepit towers on top of the Flooded Mine have been removed before they fall down.
So it begins....
It's fading away before our eyes.
Well, I don't really see this as a bad thing. I mean, apparently the towers were about ready to fall, so taking them down before they do seems like the smart thing to do, since they could potentially hurt someone if they just stayed until they fell down on their own.
Quote from: Zephon on February 24, 2016, 08:41:20 PM
Small changes to look for-
The Strawberries and Cream building has been completely rebuilt and upgraded.
There is no change in the color scheme of the Opera House that I'm aware of.
The porch of the Playhouse behind the hotdog stand is being revamped.
Some of the old decrepit towers on top of the Flooded Mine have been removed before they fall down.
The tower entrance to the Lumbercamp restaurant has been rebuilt.
I'm intrigued by several of these. The Riverfront Playhouse for one, several people thought its days were numbered, but with them putting $$ into a porch revamp, that seems highly doubtful.
I was worried about the possibility of the Opera House getting the same color-scheme as Geyser Gulch, glad that's not happened.
Curious to see the new Lumbercamp tower, I wonder if it's a better version, a lesser version, or an exact replica.
As for the Flooded Mine, I agree wit Shave. It seems once they start taking things out and not replacing or repairing them, its days are numbered. :(
If they considered FM a vital asset and wanted to keep it in the park for a generation to come, they wouldn't be slowly dismantling it. Not long ago I thought it was sacrosanct, but once you start paying attention it's easy to see how degraded it's become on the park's priorities list. Obviously the towers were an issue that needed to be taken care of, but simply taking them away instead of fixing or rebuilding the facade shows that they are done with this ride and are waiting on the right opportunity to get rid of it. My fingers are still crossed for a rebuild that doesn't destroy all the charm and originality, but we know what the chances of that are.
As for the playhouse, they've needed to fix that porch for a long time. Maybe this is just to get them through a couple more years of use before they gut the building or whatever. Still hard to say how they view the long term viability of that building.
I'm glad the lumbercamp entrance got love instead of simply getting removed.
You all are right. The writing is on the wall for the FM. Its days are numbered. Better ride it as much as possible this season because who knows how much longer it'll be there for us. I just hope this never happens to FITH. :'(
As sad as it makes me its understandable. FM and FITH are beloved rides. Iconic even. However, look at everything that has been removed thus far. Its just one more thing. It will always be just one more. I will miss the nice float through a cool tunnel on a hot day. Heck ya. This mommas feet get tired from all that walking!! It was a nice feature to be able to plop my kid on a safe ride where I could have a moments rest without being tugged onto yet something else. He is occupied and eventhough its noisy from the guns, its still a calming peace. Like coming back home. Its a lovely ride. I hope to see a retheme and rebuild if they decide to take it out.
On another thought will our children have the same conversation about outlaw run thirty years from now?
Quote from: Coaster on February 25, 2016, 02:15:20 PM
You all are right. The writing is on the wall for the FM. Its days are numbered. Better ride it as much as possible this season because who knows how much longer it'll be there for us. I just hope this never happens to FITH. :'(
It (FM) has at minimum 2 seasons left (counting this year)
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It (FM) has at minimum 2 seasons left (counting this year)
That's good news. If and when it does get replaced, I really hope for a world-class indoor attraction. SDC is really lacking in indoor attractions in my opinion. You've got FITH, FM, shows, and shops. I think we need something else and I have been saying this for years.
Flooded mine ceased to exist for me when it was switched to the shootout format. All the noise and whirlygigs took the charm and story away. I miss the charm of it before but will not miss the current format.
Quote from: Coaster on February 25, 2016, 08:24:41 PM
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It (FM) has at minimum 2 seasons left (counting this year)
That's good news. If and when it does get replaced, I really hope for a world-class indoor attraction. SDC is really lacking in indoor attractions in my opinion. You've got FITH, FM, shows, and shops. I think we need something else and I have been saying this for years.
Couldn't agree more. I know many here are wishing for another coaster, but they really need to concentrate on what you stated....a world-class indoor attraction. Coasters are a dime a dozen. You can ride one anywhere. The charm that SDC once had is quickly fading away...and that charm came from the one of a kind rides that were unique to SDC. From Jim Owen's Float Trip, to Rube's Diving Bell....Fire in the Hole to the Flooded Mine......THOSE were the staples that made me want to come back again and again as a kid. It's getting hard to make "Memories Worth Repeating" if it becomes a state fair atmosphere in our beloved city. :-\
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Quote from: Coaster on February 25, 2016, 08:24:41 PM
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It (FM) has at minimum 2 seasons left (counting this year)
That's good news. If and when it does get replaced, I really hope for a world-class indoor attraction. SDC is really lacking in indoor attractions in my opinion. You've got FITH, FM, shows, and shops. I think we need something else and I have been saying this for years.
Couldn't agree more. I know many here are wishing for another coaster, but they really need to concentrate on what you stated....a world-class indoor attraction. Coasters are a dime a dozen. You can ride one anywhere. The charm that SDC once had is quickly fading away...and that charm came from the one of a kind rides that were unique to SDC. From Jim Owen's Float Trip, to Rube's Diving Bell....Fire in the Hole to the Flooded Mine......THOSE were the staples that made me want to come back again and again as a kid. It's getting hard to make "Memories Worth Repeating" if it becomes a state fair atmosphere in our beloved city. :-\
Stop taking everything to a hyperbolic level.
Yes things have changed. So have things at every park. SDC was not created to be a museum. Calling the current condition of the park a state fair environment is beyond ridiculous.
Hyperbolic = beyond ridiculous :o
Why the hostility Swoosh? I'm stating the obvious. SDC already has 5....count them 5 roller coasters. Why are you so hell-bent on adding another at the expense of losing a cool, indoor, family ride?
Please show me where I said that. Go ahead and quote it.
As far as FM is concerned - it's on it's last leg. It's going to receive minimal fixes and fade off into the sunset. The ROI to fix it is not there. I had to come terms with that and so will the rest of you.
As for the hostility, I just get annoyed really easy when people start over exaggerating how "bad" things are at SDC. They're not.
I agree with Swoosh. Things aren't that bad at SDC. Their additions have kept with the theme of the park and frankly the park has done a great job sticking to its roots while also growing and adapting to the times. Yes we can look at things at a micro level and nit-pick, I do it with certain things as well, but when you look at the grand scheme of things SDC is a still top-notch theme park.
Yes, it will hurt to lose part of the history of SDC but seeing it die a slow and painful death is almost as bad. I think replacing FM with a world-class dark ride attraction, fit to theme with nods to the FM would be a great addition to the park, and one that will help the park evolve even further.
I'm not going to argue, but since you threw the glove down...
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Re: SDC's 2017 Project(s) and Park Developments
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2015, 03:54:45 PM »
I wonder if they'd ever consider putting a coaster on the hill between PowderKeg and Wildfire. That area seems perfect and hidden enough for another big ride.
Who knows. I just want another big ride.
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I never said things were "bad" at SDC. I just don't want to see SDC turn into another WOF or SF. That's all I'm saying. What is really sad is they failed to maintain FM and now it has gotten to this point where it would be expensive to refurbish.
Coaster-You and I are in agreement. If they would replace it with something as impressive as it was in it's day then it's all good!
Ok so you posted where I said I wanted another coaster - no where does it mention at the expense of a indoor dark ride as you accused me - so again where did I say that?
I hate that the strategy of letting awesome, unique, storied attractions fade away through purposefully poor management always works on people. What ends up replacing FM will pale in comparison, that's all I know for sure. However, we're gearing off track here and this thread has served it's purpose, so let's keep it in the other FM/future speculation threads.