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General Category => Branson Talk => Topic started by: KBCraig on January 13, 2014, 08:02:41 AM

Title: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: KBCraig on January 13, 2014, 08:02:41 AM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/grantmartin/2014/01/12/southwest-airlines-plane-lands-at-wrong-airport-almost-careens-off-cliff/

When the wheels of Scott Schieffer's airplane touched the ground at his destination, something didn't seem right.

"We landed very abruptly with the pilot applying the brakes very hard. We smelled burnt rubber from the stop," he told me privately over Twitter.

The flight, Southwest Airlines LUV +1.3% 4013, which left from Chicago's Midway airport this afternoon was originally scheduled to fly to Dallas with a stop in Branson, Missouri (BKG) but instead, the aircraft touched down at Taney County Airport (PLK), 8.6 miles away from its intermediate stop. According to airportguide.com, PLK's runway is about half the length of BKG's at 3738 feet versus 7140 feet.

Only after unloading the plane, did Mr. Scheiffer notice the gravity of the situation, noting "we have all deplaned from @SouthwestAir 4013, and the mood is somber now that we realized we were 40 feet from the edge of a cliff."
Title: Re: Whoops! Soutwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: sanddunerider on January 13, 2014, 10:51:21 AM
this could have turned out so much worse!!   

waiting for details as to WHY it happened.   
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: sanddunerider on January 13, 2014, 03:31:54 PM
AND its outta here!!!!..........

Plane took off safe and sound...
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: Injun Joe on January 13, 2014, 03:42:40 PM
Thank goodness the plane arrived and departed safely!  How in tarnation did this happen? 
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: Junior on January 13, 2014, 05:16:38 PM
Heard about this on NPR Radio today. Thought it was funny. Who knows what happened. Somebody not paying attention?
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: sanddunerider on January 13, 2014, 06:42:05 PM
I have been monitoring the branson radio and springfield TV stations...  still no statement on how/why this happend..

Just luck there were no injuries...
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: qwed94 on January 14, 2014, 12:46:06 AM
any number of things could have happened to cause this to happen. Maybe electrical, maybe mechanical, maybe human error.  As Sanddune said. Thank God no injuries

Heck, at least he was close. I mean he might have been going to Branson, and landed in Detroit (or somewhere).   Good Job Pilot, you get an "attaboy" ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: Injun Joe on January 14, 2014, 02:48:46 AM
Quote from: qwed94 on January 14, 2014, 12:46:06 AM
Heck, at least he was close. I mean he might have been going to Branson, and landed in Detroit (or somewhere).   Good Job Pilot, you get an "attaboy" ;D ;D ;D

That's right.  They could have ended up sleeping with the fishes in the bottom of Lake Taneycomo!
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: thelarsonsix on January 14, 2014, 07:16:49 PM
I saw this last night. It does happen, similar looking airports without radar. But I thought there was another thread on here a while back about Southwest pulling out of Branson airport?
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: misskim on January 14, 2014, 07:37:04 PM
Similar thing happened in Wichita in November. Pilot of the Dreamliner was talking to McConnell Air Force Base air traffic control, but landed at a much smaller private airport.  It also took off without incident. The pilots were talking to McConnell, saw the smaller airport, assumed it was the right one and landed there. I theorized at the time that probably the pilots thought, "Wichita? How many airports can there be?" and assumed there was only one. In fact, there are at least 4. Three of them are roughly along the same street, including both the intended airport and the one where they landed.

Again, I wonder if the Southwest pilots just assumed Branson only had one airport and landed at the first runway they saw. In both instances, they had to be disregarding their instruments. Just glad in both situations they were able to get the planes out without incident.
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: biscuitcreek on January 14, 2014, 10:35:46 PM
Quote from: thelarsonsix on January 14, 2014, 07:16:49 PM
I saw this last night. It does happen, similar looking airports without radar. But I thought there was another thread on here a while back about Southwest pulling out of Branson airport?

Southwest isn't pulling out of Branson until June.
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: Injun Joe on January 14, 2014, 11:53:10 PM
Quote from: misskim on January 14, 2014, 07:37:04 PM
Similar thing happened in Wichita in November. Pilot of the Dreamliner was talking to McConnell Air Force Base air traffic control, but landed at a much smaller private airport.  It also took off without incident. The pilots were talking to McConnell, saw the smaller airport, assumed it was the right one and landed there. I theorized at the time that probably the pilots thought, "Wichita? How many airports can there be?" and assumed there was only one. In fact, there are at least 4. Three of them are roughly along the same street, including both the intended airport and the one where they landed.

Again, I wonder if the Southwest pilots just assumed Branson only had one airport and landed at the first runway they saw. In both instances, they had to be disregarding their instruments. Just glad in both situations they were able to get the planes out without incident.
Absolutely.  I'd think this would be a fairly serious offense and warrant appropriate discipline.   Unless,  the instruments malfunctioned, and then this would be slightly less egregious.



Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: Junior on January 15, 2014, 05:12:30 AM
NBC took a flight with a pilot above Branson and a portion was on the evening news last night. From 10 miles out, both airports appear to be virtually side by side. At night, it is plausible that a pilot not paying attention could make the mistake. When they hit the point of no return on the C of O Airport runway, they apparently hit the brakes so hard the tires burned off tread on the pavement. Passengers reported a burning rubber smell. They came, I think, within 500 feet of plunging right onto Highway 65! This, since it has garnered national attention, will result in a few heads being chopped. Thank goodness no injuries or deaths here.
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: Injun Joe on January 15, 2014, 05:52:51 PM
Hope they get all the right heads.
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: History Buff on January 15, 2014, 06:08:21 PM
We should all know by now that using Wildfire as a fuel can cause the navigation equipment to go wacky.
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: Swoosh on January 15, 2014, 07:22:08 PM
The pilots have been grounded until further notice (basically they are laid off without pay) -- sounds like they will be terminated here soon according to some of our pilot friends.  In their defense, Branson Tower wasn't much help to them -- but to land at SofO... sorry CofO's airport which is only 1000 yard longer than our grass strip we use... yeah, it's pretty obvious even in the dark that CofO's airport is not Branson's airport which is MUCH longer.
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: sanddunerider on January 18, 2014, 09:02:50 AM
Still NO real explanation....

http://news.yahoo.com/southwest-pilots-confused-lights-wrong-u-airport-023221173--finance.html
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: qwed94 on January 18, 2014, 11:45:01 PM
Yeah they had a piece on that on our local news at 10 tonite.
Pilot "supposedly" said that the lights on that runway was way brighter, and the Branson tower said they were still a few miles off, then supposedly gave them clearance to land.  Soooo we still dont know, and never will.
All I can say is, Humans will make mistakes. and this was one of them.
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: sanddunerider on January 19, 2014, 10:04:10 AM
Right on Qwed......  We will proablay NEVER know the truth!........
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: KBCraig on January 20, 2014, 06:06:14 PM
Quote from: qwed94 on January 18, 2014, 11:45:01 PM
Pilot "supposedly" said that the lights on that runway was way brighter

Yes, lights are brighter when you're lined up with the runway... by design! When you combine the bright lights, the runway number (first two digits of the magnetic heading), and your actual heading, you have what we call a "clue".


Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: qwed94 on January 20, 2014, 09:00:36 PM
Hey, I didnt make up that line of mumble jumble.  That is what the news said.  Although you are right "KB"

There was more on our news about this tonite. But basically the same story.  Although this time "they said" that the pilot admitted to the Branson tower saying they were still a few miles from destination.

In other words the Pilot/Copilot/and crew just made a great big OOPS!
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: sanddunerider on January 21, 2014, 03:34:33 AM
I am not a pilot..... AND i dont know all the details................ 

BUT i am pretty sure when they set the computer for the airport location.. the puter reads off the GPS location... 

So in simple words....??? 

How is the world did they land 8 miles off apreset GPS coordination??  LOL..  pretty simple question/detail...... ;D...........

I guess they could have putin the "wrong" airport?...LOL
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: sanddunerider on January 21, 2014, 03:40:52 AM
Just read this...a few facts.....  Not any info as to "why" it happened.... But....


http://bransontrilakesnews.com/news_free/article_45b3e1ea-7fb2-11e3-a430-001a4bcf887a.html
Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: Witention on April 23, 2014, 08:33:03 AM
Looks like AVweb has figured out what went wrong. They posted a video showing the results of their in-depth investigation of why airplanes land at the wrong airport. Here is the video.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOu4PJW39BQ

Title: Re: Whoops! Southwest plane lands at Taney instead of Branson
Post by: sanddunerider on April 23, 2014, 12:33:50 PM
I heard the other day, that the one pilot retired, and the other one is back on duty,,,,,'


Now if they could just find the Malaysia plane,,,,,,,, ;)