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Silver Dollar City & Celebration City Discussion => General Silver Dollar City Talk => Topic started by: sdcforever on May 10, 2008, 09:27:34 AM

Title: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: sdcforever on May 10, 2008, 09:27:34 AM
I found this pretty cool first person video of Powder Keg's launch on YouTube.  Someone sneaked their camera on the ride to get the video.  After about 30 seconds the sheer speed of the ride was too much for the camera.  The video's still pretty cool and almost makes you feel like you're on the ride.  There's also some footage of Wildfire, Electrospin, The Giant Swing, Thunderation, and others on YouTube if you do some digging.  Here's the link to the Powder Keg launch video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bI4am0OEo2U&feature=related (http://youtube.com/watch?v=bI4am0OEo2U&feature=related)
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: Coaster on May 10, 2008, 11:52:06 AM
There aren't really that many great SDC videos on Youtube or on the internet for that matter.

Don't they have camera equipment on all parts of the track on the roller coasters? Wouldn't they find out if you snuck on a camera or something once you got back to the station?
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: shavethewhales on May 10, 2008, 05:26:05 PM
^Yes, they watch the launch and the lifthill, and they can see if you are doing anything against the rules. Oftentimes they'll confront you and escort you from the park if you do anything overtly dangerous or illegal. I guess this guy managed to fly under the radar, but he's exceptionally lucky. You saw how he couldn't control the camera - if it had flown out of his hand he, SDC, and some innocent bystander would be tangled up in a multi-million dollar legal conundrum right now.
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: Swoosh on May 10, 2008, 11:20:30 PM
Yes this video is under investigation as are a few others.  Ride & Safety does not take these things lightly
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: Coaster on May 11, 2008, 05:17:22 PM
Quote from: Swoosh on May 10, 2008, 11:20:30 PM
Yes this video is under investigation as are a few others.  Ride & Safety does not take these things lightly

I've always wanted to record a ride on Wildfire or Powderkeg but now I know it's not worth it. Although I was never seriously considering it and knowing my luck my camera or cell phone would've flew right out of my hands.
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: sdcforever on May 12, 2008, 09:14:19 AM
I've never wanted to record a ride.  I'd be too afraid of my camera flying out of my hands.  Plus, I'm just not a camera person.  I don't mind my picture being taken, but I just don't take pictures.  I don't know why, it's just not my thing.  There are some other cool ride videos on YouTube, most of them not taken on the rides themselves.
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: DocSpeleo on May 26, 2008, 05:13:38 AM
Personally I've ridden the ride with camera in hand recording it.  I've done the same thing on Wildfire and Thunderation.
I usually use the hand strap as a safety but never has my camera ever moved in my hand I hold it so tightly.  I've never been confronted and I have about 10 videos of rides at SDC. 

A few more from other parks - Six Flags St Louis & Hershey Park...
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: Swoosh on May 26, 2008, 09:45:02 AM
^Well obviously you hide your camera until you are out of the station otherwise you would have been confronted about it and told to put it in a cubby.

I take it that you think that the posted rules are for everyone BUT you?   ::)
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: DocSpeleo on May 26, 2008, 09:48:07 PM
I guess, I do think the rules don't apply.  I'm a member of ACE and it is required to get videos on the rides.  lol not really... 
I used my cell phone to record once and was watched by the employees on the way out of the station.  I guess I never really thought I was in danger of dropping it.  I've had lots of practice!
I watched the video on youtube he didn't do that great of a job.  lol i got the whole ride.
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: Swoosh on May 26, 2008, 10:54:19 PM
Oh, I'm completely sorry then... if you flashed your gACE card then you were completely in your rights  ::)

Seriously, it's gACE members like that that give all gACE members a bad name.
I belong to American Coaster Enthusiasts, but do not flaunt it or actually even let it be a known fact.  I am only a member because of ERT events and discounts at Holiday World... the magazines are nice too, even though I get them after all the "news" is way out of date.

Oh to the well.... be careful video taping though, it could get you black listed.
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: DocSpeleo on May 30, 2008, 08:11:37 PM
I meant to ask - Swoosh are you an employee? How do you know this video is under investigation?
Since you know that do you know what do they plan on doing with the culprit?

It isn't illegal just not considered "safe" so you think they'll have a wanted poster up by the turnstiles with "don't let this one in"
haha just curious... seems to me that there are a lot more important things to do than investigate the video, more likely to investigate and retrain some employees who let the camera slip by... I would imagine.
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: shavethewhales on May 30, 2008, 09:17:02 PM
^Actually it probably is illegal; I don't know for sure, but Missouri has some pretty thorough rider safety laws. If they find the person who shot the video, they'll treat him or her like they would anyone that breaks the rules, which may include not being allowed in the park.

Once again, this is one of those issues that is taken somewhat seriously because of the number of incidents that occur around it. Even if it doesn't seem important, it's a pretty big deal when some kid gets his face smashed in by a flying camera because someone just had to make a youtube video.
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: Swoosh on May 30, 2008, 11:04:39 PM
^^Contrary to popular belief there IS a black list that is shared among parks of patrons that are not allowed access to parks, so in a way, yes
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: DocSpeleo on May 31, 2008, 06:05:08 AM
Interesting. . . .
Also to note...

The cameras on Wildfire are working and Kodak is tweaking them a little bit to make sure the video made will be of a high quality.  So pretty soon you'll be able to purchase your video while riding Wildfire!
I can't wait!
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: sdcforever on May 31, 2008, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: shavethewhales on May 30, 2008, 09:17:02 PM
^Actually it probably is illegal; I don't know for sure, but Missouri has some pretty thorough rider safety laws. If they find the person who shot the video, they'll treat him or her like they would anyone that breaks the rules, which may include not being allowed in the park.

Once again, this is one of those issues that is taken somewhat seriously because of the number of incidents that occur around it. Even if it doesn't seem important, it's a pretty big deal when some kid gets his face smashed in by a flying camera because someone just had to make a youtube video.

It is illegal, according to Missouri statutes.  Everyone is to obey the oral and posted safety rules of a ride for various reasons, including throwing, dropping or expelling an object from or toward a ride.  Loose objects (including cameras) are prohibited on all high-speed rides at SDC (this is posted all over the park, and repeated on the PA system and the website over and over again).  All of this is for the safety of everyone on the ride.  Anyone who violates these provisions is guilty of a class A misdemeanor.  You can check out all the details here:
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c300-399/3160000230.htm (http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c300-399/3160000230.htm)
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: haytater on May 31, 2008, 03:23:04 PM
I rode the new Tony Hawk ride at Six Flags and they had video cameras pointed at every rider in the middld of the cart. It is an awesome idea that they are incorporating video cameras now but, I wish i didn't have to pay an arm and a leg to safely get my roller coaster adventures on video.
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: DocSpeleo on May 31, 2008, 06:56:48 PM
haha, it probably will cost an arm and a leg.. it looked as if the four seats were covered by 2 cameras so if you have a group of four you would have to buy 2 videos... I am hoping that they will be able to edit them together.....
It also appeared that each row had cameras on it.

Amazing! About the Missouri statues... hmmm scary! Guess I'll quit taking my camera on the ride! lol

Also, I did call the park today and a few others.  I have friends that work at Six Flags Great Adventure and Six Flags Over Texas as well as a friend in Disney.  They had no idea about the "black list" they seem to feel the same way I do - it's an urban legend.  What park has the man power or employees with a great memory to see when those "black listed" riders are coming on park?  So it appears that there is no list for SDC or the Six Flags parks I called or Disney.
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: Swoosh on June 01, 2008, 11:15:09 AM
^Ask Robb Alvey if there is a black list.  I'm sure that will pick a nerve with him since he is not allowed in some parks because he decided to video tape on some coasters.
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: Coaster on June 02, 2008, 08:02:32 PM
^Who is Robb Alvey?
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: DocSpeleo on June 02, 2008, 11:21:28 PM
Some guy on the "black list" that doesn't exist...
hahahaha
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: shavethewhales on June 02, 2008, 11:49:48 PM
Rob Alvey runs the famous themeparkreview.com. He spends much of his time traveling the world visiting theme parks and documenting them on film and photo, along with the antics of whatever random crew is with him at the time. He would be one to know about such a black list.

Whether such a thing exists or not though is beside the point. Like I said in the other thread, the basic point was that SDC doesn't allow filming on it's rides without special set-ups and permission. As we are fans, we obey the rules and discourage breaking them. That's all that needs to be said.
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: History Buff on June 03, 2008, 11:29:53 PM
Just a side note:  I just watched the DVD that Disney sends to people planning to make a visit.  On it, a cast member gives camcorders to a bunch of kids and encourages them to record themselves at Walt Disney World.  The kids are then shown on many of the rides with camcorders in hand and scenes from the handheld cameras.  I doubt this is common practice at WDW, and figure it's against the rules there, too, but there it is - right on the DVD.  Anyway, it's against the rules and that's enough for me.  I find that the memories in my head are usually better than the video anyway.
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: Coaster on June 04, 2008, 08:43:37 AM
^I'd imagine that WDW enforces their rules a little more about that than SDC does, with good reason. WDW has a lot more bratty kids and even adults running around the place.
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: Copper on June 04, 2008, 12:40:05 PM
I know for a fact that SDC doesn't have a black list as some may say. They will however escort guests out of the park when a safety issue occurs. They will ask some not to return. The time I rremember this happening is when a young man tried to jump from a viewing area into a Lost River boat in which his family was riding. There have also been times when someone makes an obscene gesture to cameras on rides; they have escorted people out for that too. There are several other things too.
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: Coaster on June 04, 2008, 12:46:57 PM
^Jumped from the viewing area into the boat? My gosh, why do people do such stupid things? Those are all issues other parks deal with also though. So is there any park that has a real black list even though SDC doesn't?
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: betamike on June 04, 2008, 05:59:15 PM
The "Black List" you all speak of has a lot to do with whatever internal programs an area say, like Guest Relations uses to keep track of Guests electronically.  I know WDW has this but not sure if SDC does.  This isn't to say even in this case that the park has any wherewithal to keep tabs on their return.

Now, if WDW ever calls in Law Enforcement (in guest-to-guest or guest-to-employee altercations), then a BOLO will be sent across property.  This is done sometimes with those scamming tickets or carrying counterfeit money.  In this case, there IS a master list of "black listed" people. 

But as it was mentioned before, the parks themselves and the people who operate them are just that....people and cannot be everywhere at once.  If a park executive makes an official "don't come back" remark to someone though, you had better believe that this will be recorded electronically somewhere and will most likely never be expunged.
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: Coaster on June 04, 2008, 08:22:53 PM
^What does BOLO stand for?
Title: Re: Powder Keg on YouTube
Post by: betamike on June 04, 2008, 09:04:32 PM
I wasn't sure so I had to look it up.  All I know is that we have used it at Disney for forever now.  Here is what I found: 

BOLO is a term Law Enforcement Officers use to spread the word when they are out to catch the crooks and criminals running free harming our communities. The term BOLO stands for:"Be On Look Out"