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Silver Dollar City & Celebration City Discussion => General Silver Dollar City Talk => Topic started by: cocodane3 on October 13, 2011, 11:32:13 PM

Title: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: cocodane3 on October 13, 2011, 11:32:13 PM
Ok so I know this topic sounds furmiliar but I couldn't find the old thread. The new train car is out of the sdc rebuilding shop. Sorry I didn't get this out sooner but the car was put on the tracks Tues oct 11. My guess is that it will be operating in the next couple of weeks. This is great news however the car looks so out on place it's not even funny. It has a black rounded roof the white war replaced with cream and there is not ne'er as much frisco red. I myself eil not ride in this new car. Please submit ur photos of the car and ur opinions.
Stepping off my lye soap box now.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: shavethewhales on October 14, 2011, 12:27:00 AM
Wow, I can't even imagine what that looks like from that description. SDC's rail cars have such classic shapes that it's hard to believe they would throw it all away like that. Hopefully they rectify this soon.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: treed on October 14, 2011, 07:54:58 AM
Anybody have a picture of the new Frisco car?
Thanks,
Tony
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: SteamFreak on October 14, 2011, 08:00:48 AM
When I worked on the railroad there were a lot of complaints about the height of the cars. I haven't seen it yet but my guess is the rounded design is to give some more head room. There was also a thought to make the cars look more light freight cars and make the train look more mixed to stay close to historical accuracy to what a train would have looked like in this area. There were many changes going on while I was there and though the classic design may be different it should be noted that they will bring about more accuracy. Something that people say is lacking at the city. The new design also will include a new braking system, something the train also needs badly.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: cocodane3 on October 14, 2011, 03:41:06 PM
When I was there last weekend the only way to get a good picture was to take a camera on the giant swing.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: sanddunerider on October 14, 2011, 04:39:21 PM
yea, i could not get a picture either,   when i saw the new car it was behind the spare train and cars,,  yes it does not match the others at all. 

I was hoping it was still in primer paint?

I did notice it did not have any lights on it yet either...
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: rubedugans on October 14, 2011, 08:41:52 PM
I am picturing a train car that looks like the new parking lot trams...am I way off with this?
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: cocodane3 on October 14, 2011, 11:08:10 PM
Uts hard to explain the best way would just be to get a picture. Ur not completely off and ur not completely right.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: sanddunerider on October 15, 2011, 04:57:34 PM
nice answer cocodane!!!  LOL..  it is hard to explain.

although i would have to say it does look like a train car.   

Nothing like the new trams!! 

thank goodness.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: Duelist on October 15, 2011, 07:27:40 PM
Quote from: SteamFreak on October 14, 2011, 08:00:48 AM
When I worked on the railroad there were a lot of complaints about the height of the cars. I haven't seen it yet but my guess is the rounded design is to give some more head room. There was also a thought to make the cars look more light freight cars and make the train look more mixed to stay close to historical accuracy to what a train would have looked like in this area. There were many changes going on while I was there and though the classic design may be different it should be noted that they will bring about more accuracy. Something that people say is lacking at the city. The new design also will include a new braking system, something the train also needs badly.

Glad to see your post, Steam Freak!  We miss seeing you as conductor/train robber on the Frisco.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: Junior on October 16, 2011, 08:44:14 AM
Stemfreak: What you up to now that you are not with the train?
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: rubedugans on October 16, 2011, 11:23:48 AM
I was going to ask as well...are you still at the City?
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: Destination SDC on October 16, 2011, 07:10:27 PM
Here's a picture of the new train car.  It isn't the best picture, but it was all we were able to get.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: Destination SDC on October 16, 2011, 07:12:11 PM
By the way, the new car is the one on the left in the background in the picture.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on October 16, 2011, 07:35:36 PM
Nice catch! It appears the new cars have squared off windows. This will definitely take some getting used to.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: mhguy77 on October 16, 2011, 07:39:56 PM
If they are indeed changing up the styles so the cars will not match but will reflect theme.......?   
Thats a good idea! I just hope they do it with some effort and love instead of doing it on the cheap.
I am not a fan of fiberglass.........
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: palallin on October 17, 2011, 09:27:16 AM
FWIW, the rounded roofs are in theme--at least the time period.  The roof profile we're all familiar with was far from universal in the 1880s, especially on backwoods branchlines.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on October 17, 2011, 03:00:00 PM
I haven't seen a good enough look at the new cars to make a preference, but I do believe that their current cars do match many of the passenger cars of the 1880's. I just hope the new cars don't lose any of the nostalgic feel. :-X
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: mhguy77 on October 17, 2011, 03:42:04 PM
Upon some further thought I think they can only improve the train cars.  We love them yes but they are a little rough if you take a good look a them.  This is improvement.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on October 17, 2011, 04:16:13 PM
I have no doubt that they can improve the ride comfort, and ride quality, but can they improve the looks? Can they keep that genuine 1880's feel in the new cars, or will they end up looking too modern, or fake?
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: cocodane3 on October 18, 2011, 07:33:25 PM
The way the end of the car is constructed looks like it won't be the 4th car due to the conductor seat.Unless the other end of the car is the back. In that case they would have to turn the car around.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: SteamFreak on October 24, 2011, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: rubedugans on October 16, 2011, 11:23:48 AM
I was going to ask as well...are you still at the City?

Nope I am no longer at the city, I now work for Sight and Sound theatres in the lighting operations dept. I had been working both at SDC and S&S part time but I'm not at the theatre full time and no longer employed at the city. The stage is sure a lot better in July and December than the back of a train! lol
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: rubedugans on October 24, 2011, 09:59:39 AM
Very cool. I can only imagine how the elements wear on you out there! We as guests would always move from building to building to keep cool or warm (depending on the season). Spring and Fall would be great though! I am sure it was a great experience for you at the City.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on October 24, 2011, 12:47:44 PM
what do citizens do in extreme heat and cold?? the costumes dont help much for the heat aspect,,,,
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: Junior on October 24, 2011, 03:48:55 PM
Back in the days I worked on park, we were issued thermal underwear shirts to put under the "Junior" shirts. Also we were issued a denim jacket. It did get kind of nippy early on some mornings in April, and in September and October. I worked there before the Christmas thing started, so those three months mentioned were all we had to really worry about. (When guests were not around prior to rope drop and after park closing, some of the guys wore modern goose down jackets to keep warm.)
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on October 24, 2011, 04:05:32 PM
I would love to work at the city and I enjoy the cool/cold days but I hate the heat of summer. and with the long dresses the ladies wear seem to me unbearable!!! AHHH! I am glad there are folks les pansy than me out there!
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: Junior on October 24, 2011, 05:37:01 PM
We kind of liked the cold days, because crowds were low, and that meant more time to play pranks and jokes on each other, and it was just more mellow...breaks were leisurely, people seemed relaxed, happy...but when it was really slow, sometimes staff got sent home early, that meant a lower paycheck...no one liked that! Even on a slow day there were at least four of us at the diving bell, but that would usually mean only two or three rides all day for each of us, with half empty diving bells. We never turned anyone away. Seems like if there were seven or more we would take a ride, and that usually was not too difficult to round up at least that many.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: rubedugans on October 24, 2011, 07:20:25 PM
I couldn't handle the conductor job. As a coach in Fall, I am out side from the Heat of  summer, into cool fall, through wintery fall, and eventually winter temps... in Spring it is usually below freezing, and eventually warms up to near summer temps by the end of the season. I dread the one-two days a week in the cold when I have to coach outside all day.

I'd rather sweat than shiver any day of the week!
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: SteamFreak on October 25, 2011, 01:14:46 AM
Yup, the back of the train sure gets cold during christmas. The grandpas could go in and get warm, the conductors were so busy that we could never take a break to warm up...you've seen the crowds at the train during OTC...the hottest role is the robbers...i now have quite the hatred of overalls...
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: palallin on October 25, 2011, 08:37:29 AM
I'm smiling as I read these posts, but it's a gentle smile!

I know what everyone is talkign about.  As an ACW reenactor, I wear the wool in the heat of summer and shiver under thin blankets in the freezes of late fall and early spring.  Just last weekend, we woke up to find the water frozen nearly solid in our captain's wash basin, and I went down with the heat twice in the summer (not too many trees on most battlefields).  What made me smile is that I am volunteering for it:  nobody's paying me  :D
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: SteamFreak on October 30, 2011, 01:28:42 AM
I'm an ACW reenactor as well..but I may only do that 8-9 times a year lol Are you with a local group? I need to find one...
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: Junior on October 30, 2011, 04:31:34 AM
I was so used to being outdoors working during my years at SDC, heat and cold did not bother me too much. It was a luxury to be at the diving bell because there were heavy duty blowers that kept air circulating in the tunnels leading to the capsules, and the capsules were air conditioned...but by the middle of the day the heat beating down on the metal roof/asphalt roof of the building and the crowds of 75 people jammed into capsules meant the AC ran hard all day and could not always keep up. I was outside though, at the AP, Tom Sawyer's Landing, Float Trip, Treehouse, Animal Petting Farm, One Mule Swing, and other attractions. Flooded Mine was air conditioned, but suffered like the diving bell when the lines got long and people jammed the loading area and hallway leading to it. Grandfathers Mansion also has AC, but same thing as FM and RDDB. I was young and could handle it then, but now, Forget it. Grandpa likes his AC!
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: dkparks on October 31, 2011, 03:13:32 PM
I don't usually post to here too much but I love reading the knowledge people share.

I was browsing YouTube and noticed something in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIpxFduHjz0&feature=related

Anyone see it?

How often do they do this?

I haven't seen it done before!
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: mhguy77 on October 31, 2011, 05:28:18 PM
QuoteAnyone see it?

How often do they do this?

I haven't seen it done before!

I have no freakin idea what you are talking about.   What do you see??
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: rubedugans on October 31, 2011, 05:37:10 PM
I watched it 4 times...what are we looking for?
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on October 31, 2011, 05:59:12 PM
same here. I didnt get it.....thought I was dumb. :'(
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: dkparks on October 31, 2011, 08:07:11 PM
Only 3 cars. They all look full. Is that normal? Every time I have been there, there are alway 4.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: thelarsonsix on October 31, 2011, 08:11:35 PM
They only had 3 cars a couple of weeks ago when we were there.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: pintrader on October 31, 2011, 08:12:19 PM
I think it is pretty normal!  It depends a lot on how many are expected at the park.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: cocodane3 on October 31, 2011, 10:27:00 PM
Train car restoration. Read beginning of thread for more details!
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: crsjrr on November 01, 2011, 06:13:29 PM
Any pictures of the new coach yet?  Is the new car being held until there is a complete set of new cars?  With the old coach donated to the Ichabod's train crash site, is the new car constructed of all new materials, hence a brand new car?  The car at the crash site doesn't appear to have the trucks with it, did the new car get the old car's trucks (wheel sets).  Can anyone confirm this?   
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: cocodane3 on November 01, 2011, 11:00:48 PM
Picture on pg one.  Holding the coaches till there is a set of four would require the train to sit there for three more years. This increases the wear and teAr on the old cars and makes it unable to run two train during busy times.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: crsjrr on November 02, 2011, 09:26:05 AM
Has anyone or can any one get a side view picture of the car?  I would assume they would replace more then one car a year?  As it appears to be of new construction (?), an older car could continue to run to maintain capacity until enough newer cars show up?  I suppose there would be some sort of testing period?  Maybe the newer car isn't compatible with the older cars?  Just an inquiring mind looking for details.
Title: Re: Frisco Silver Dollar Line
Post by: Avalanche04 on November 02, 2011, 10:20:13 AM
because inquiring minds want too know. lol