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Branson Talk / Re: baldknobbers vs presley's
« on: January 16, 2015, 07:30:41 AM »
If I am correct the Plummers still do some shows around the Farmington, Mo area. What is left of them at least. Another one was the Bob O Links. He was one of the original Baldknobber brothers who split off.

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Branson Talk / Re: Branson Belle announces New 2015 shows.
« on: January 15, 2015, 10:10:40 PM »
Please tell me they are not going to wear those suits!!! Looks like a cross between a bad southern gospel quartet and the Mr. Roboto video from Styx.

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Branson Talk / Re: baldknobbers vs presley's
« on: January 14, 2015, 08:38:38 AM »
To answer the original question i would choose Baldknobbers over Presleys.

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Branson Talk / Re: Baldknobbers: Reality TV??
« on: January 13, 2015, 03:56:43 PM »
If it says buffet to me it is bad. Ate at the baldknobbers for breakfast one time. Ordered off the menu and the waitress went and got my food from the food bar. I left and will never go back.

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Branson Talk / Re: Baldknobbers: Reality TV??
« on: January 12, 2015, 10:09:55 PM »
They own it but lease it out to the giant chicken all you can eat crap guy. In my opinion you should only associate your name with quality products and the restaurant is defiantly not that. Maybe when the agreement with foogle expires they can get a more upscale better operator.

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This is one problem with all the entertainment complexes cropping up everywhere. You basically get a cookie cutter they all look alike complex and none of them really differentiates themselves from another. Kind of like driving down a interstate and all the exits for every town looks the same. It is also why I have been critical of Fireman's Landing. A bunch of off the shelf stuff you can get at any traveling carnival. Same with flat rides for me. Boring to the max whatever kind of plastic facade you throw on them. At one time SDC was trying to be innovative and with Outlaw Run I was optimistic they were getting back in that thinking mode. To really get attendance back or increase they are going to need to get more creative again.

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I have always said that a Aquarium with a mixed use development surrounding it, ice skating in the winter and maybe some bunny slope skiing for the winter months would be a great use for that area. The sad fact is HFEC will sit on it before they let anyone come in and develop it.

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Getting SDC to build it's own resort+moving WW would actually be beneficial for traffic. A number of people would just stay within the resort instead of driving in and out at opening and closing time each day. White Water doesn't exactly attract huge crowds, and most of them overlap with SDC crowds anyway. They would need more parking, or even a parking garage though.

Honestly, a resort is ultimately going to be the main solution to some of their growth problems. You can't do too much to increase traffic capacity through a single intersection unless you just turn it into a highway. Having a single place people could arrive at and just stay put would make a lot of people much happier and more likely to visit routinely. Having to go into Branson itself is a drag for people many families who don't want to deal with the traffic and sprawl.

I don't know if a resort would lessen traffic it would just split it into different times of the day, making it less of a problem. You would get the people who still want to stay in Branson coming in at SDC opening and leaving at closing. Then, you would have the people staying at the resort who would be coming and going at hotel check-in and check-out times.

If they do build a resort and move White Water someday, they would definitely need to get more trams/buses to handle all the people wanting to go to SDC, then White Water, then back to the hotel. Another thing they could do if they built a resort would be to have the parks open earlier and later just for resort guests. Then more people would stay at the resort so they can be at the parks longer. They would bring in more money by having more people at the resort, and if people are at the parks longer they're more likely to buy more food, merchandise, etc.

It would take a ton of hotel rooms to affect traffic patterns either way. This aint no Disney we are talking about here. If a water park was to be built on a top tier level they would need a lot more than daily hotel stays to  keep it feasible. And then you have the possibility of another company building back in town and taking that market.

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SDC Memories/ Park History / Re: Gaslight Square
« on: January 06, 2015, 10:11:25 PM »
And now 25 years later they are touting the balloons as a new attraction. Creative advertising at its best.

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Moving  out to SDC is a bad idea as things stand now. The biggest thing is that the current roads will not handle the additional traffic. 76 is overloaded now and adding the additional traffic out there in the summer would only add to the chaos. Could you imagine Indian point road handling both SDC traffic and Whitewater at the same time. When they constructed this it was a good idea but they must have hired a low budget engineering firm because the layout is awful. Not sure if MoDot or Herschend did the design. I also do not see the state outplaying any money right now for any major road improvement in that area. It would basically be a revenue wash for the state as far as tax income goes and MODOT is hurting for revenue right now. Just not a good time to ask taxpayers to subsidise a private company.  I agree though that it should all be moved to the old CC site. Lots of opportunity there.

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So I want to ask the question because I am curious.

Is 1.9 Million a good number? I believe I remember they were topping 2 million back in the late 80's. Maybe my rememberer is broke.
It really does not seem like a lot when you consider the St. Louis cardinals do 3.5 Million on only 81 dates. And I think the Royals did close to 1.9 this year.

Also, Is this a paid attendance or a total? BAF's , comps and employee give away tickets might be included.

Here is the MLB chart for you. And yes the Cardinals sell out almost every game.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

No offense, but I don't really see the comparison between two MLB teams and a regional theme park. Would you happen to know what Six Flags, WOF, or Dollywood does in a year? That seems like it might be a bit fairer. Secondly, I'm not disputing your figures, but if the Cardinals are doing 3.5milion per season, that would mean they are filling Busch almost 76 out of 81 dates. IIRC it seats around 46000.

The question of paid attendance is a valid one also. I'd like to know the answer to this also. I assume they are strictly counting bodies through the turnstiles but would like to know for certain.

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So I want to ask the question because I am curious.

Is 1.9 Million a good number? I believe I remember they were topping 2 million back in the late 80's. Maybe my rememberer is broke.
It really does not seem like a lot when you consider the St. Louis cardinals do 3.5 Million on only 81 dates. And I think the Royals did close to 1.9 this year.

Also, Is this a paid attendance or a total? BAF's , comps and employee give away tickets might be included.

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Other Parks / Re: dogpatch usa
« on: January 03, 2015, 02:20:07 PM »
I am 55 and the only reason I know about Lil Abner is we always had a Sadie Hawkins dance in High School. Apparently the idea for that came from Lil Abner. The girls asked the guys I think.

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As you read this article it is really depressing how many taxes are levied on the tourist. I know all tourist areas are bad about this , but Branson seems over the top . Glad my visits have decreased over the years to 1 or 2 at the most.

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Other Parks / Re: dogpatch usa
« on: January 03, 2015, 09:12:10 AM »
To make it a viable attraction it would need to be called something else. The younger generation has no clue what Dogpatch or Lil Abner is. It is good to see they had a good day. A lot of curiosity seekers I bet.

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