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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2018 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: August 17, 2017, 10:54:38 PM »
Thanks all for posting updates. I personally have mixed feelings about this.
1. I thought I would be okay with the spinning, until i watched the pov video. Amyone saying it isnt a lot of spinning is fooling themselves. (10,000 is still a lot, even if it isnt 20,000.) I think i will be ok, but I totally agree with those concerned and dont blame anyone for being bummed they wont be able to ride. Going backward can be fun at times, though.
2. I am totaly unimpressed with this theme. I have no idea why steampunk is so big but it is repulsive to me. This theme is not 1880s Ozarks, late 1880s Chicago or new york maybe. As swoosh said everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if people like this theme im happy for them, but I do not feel like it is anything like SDC. Being set in history alone doesnt make it SDC. It is not appealing or enduring. Just throw a bunch of clocks together. Wildfire is steampunk enough for me...ugh.
3. Combine 2 with what others fear is a lack of themeing leads me to believe the PTB just dont care or dont get it. Seems haphazardly thrown together and unimpressive. I will wait for my final analysis on #3 until I see it, but I will never like time traveler as a concept or this steampunk route. Just like grand exposition,  not for me.

Because of the above I really dont think I will care much for this ride or become attached to it. I will spend most of my riding time on FITH, Flooded Mine, Thunderation, Powderkeg, Lost River, the Train, and OR to a lesser extent while wondering why they wont fix up or redo AP or fix up FItH or make Thunderation smoother.
I will spend more time in the shops or saloon show, grandfathers mansion or a theatre. If this ride takes up some crowd then great. If it makes the SP price go up ill probably scale back to one visit a year, if the route they wanna go is away from die hard loyalists like me and toward coaster chasers with no soul invovled that is entirely up to them and my visists will reflect that. (Not saying its what they are doing for sure, just speaking generally and in 'what ifs').
I will ride it next year and give it a chance, but aint gettin my hopes up. Im more excited that they fixed up FM.

1. Brad really hit the point of it being a controlled spinning Hard yesterday.  He even went as far as saying that the magnets would clamp hard if the sensors detect the carts spinning too much.  He personally thought the test car on Collossus was too much and that's why Mack developed this particular set up. 

2. Believe it or not, the theme is NOT steampunk.  The character is actually a clock connoisseur and has stumbled on a way to bend time.  I guess years of studying and measuring time came to this break through.  So basically he's a clock maker and historian. 

3.  The station is going to be very impressive.  BUT I'll let the park reveal those details as they're the ones paying for it - not my place.
While I am VERY glad to hear the things I read about Steampunk are false, Im still underwhelmed with the theme, but at least am willing to give it a chance. That building and overall entrance does look massive and could lead to some good themeing. Hope there is some unepected theming on the ride.
My spin comments were based on that video i watched. At times there was some serious spinning. Just a video I realize, but just because its less spin than others doesnt mean it wont still be too much for a lot of people.
I guess we will just have to wait til it opens. Will be here before we know it.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2018 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: August 17, 2017, 09:03:27 PM »
Thanks all for posting updates. I personally have mixed feelings about this.
1. I thought I would be okay with the spinning, until i watched the pov video. Amyone saying it isnt a lot of spinning is fooling themselves. (10,000 is still a lot, even if it isnt 20,000.) I think i will be ok, but I totally agree with those concerned and dont blame anyone for being bummed they wont be able to ride. Going backward can be fun at times, though.
2. I am totaly unimpressed with this theme. I have no idea why steampunk is so big but it is repulsive to me. This theme is not 1880s Ozarks, late 1880s Chicago or new york maybe. As swoosh said everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if people like this theme im happy for them, but I do not feel like it is anything like SDC. Being set in history alone doesnt make it SDC. It is not appealing or enduring. Just throw a bunch of clocks together. Wildfire is steampunk enough for me...ugh.
3. Combine 2 with what others fear is a lack of themeing leads me to believe the PTB just dont care or dont get it. Seems haphazardly thrown together and unimpressive. I will wait for my final analysis on #3 until I see it, but I will never like time traveler as a concept or this steampunk route. Just like grand exposition,  not for me.

Because of the above I really dont think I will care much for this ride or become attached to it. I will spend most of my riding time on FITH, Flooded Mine, Thunderation, Powderkeg, Lost River, the Train, and OR to a lesser extent while wondering why they wont fix up or redo AP or fix up FItH or make Thunderation smoother.
I will spend more time in the shops or saloon show, grandfathers mansion or a theatre. If this ride takes up some crowd then great. If it makes the SP price go up ill probably scale back to one visit a year, if the route they wanna go is away from die hard loyalists like me and toward coaster chasers with no soul invovled that is entirely up to them and my visists will reflect that. (Not saying its what they are doing for sure, just speaking generally and in 'what ifs').
I will ride it next year and give it a chance, but aint gettin my hopes up. Im more excited that they fixed up FM.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2018 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: August 05, 2017, 12:56:38 PM »
Someone awhile ago said ot could have a spinning option...i believe this will have that. Riders decide if they can spin or not. Does this exist yet?
And could this be one big circle? That curved part of the track just seems unique for its degree and where its located. Doesnt look like a typical inversion. Does any of the track corkscrew like on OR?
I have a guess as to what this will look like but i cant explain it.
It has to be a launch...theres nothing big enough for a dive. I guess its still early. I hope its a launch I love PK.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: Christmas at Silver Dollar City
« on: August 05, 2017, 10:03:40 AM »
it would be foolish to lose the old time christmas title. The trademarked names are very bland. My 27 year old wife (at the time) went ooooo when she heard "old time" bedore the first time she went. Its what made it easy for me to talk her into going.
Im going to make an assumption, and it could be totally false, but I know the powers that be read this board from time to time. Like I said might be false now and this whole trademark might have nothing to do with a re naming, probably doesnt. Also I could be false in what im about to assume about some of the current PTB.
But I believe there is someone on the higher up, or maybe a few, who would like to get away from the old time themeing or don't think its that important, or would rather go with a cookie cutter approach to it. I believe this is a mistake or would be for a few reasons. The classic themeing has two effects on people. Either they:
1. Love it. For people like me its part of why I choose sdc and pass numerous closer parks to get there. For a lot of SDC faithful, its part of what keeps us coming back.
2. Or they are indifferent. It doesnt matter to them, might find some elements cool, but they wanna ride the new coaster. They might come back they might not. As long as there is stuff to do.
NO ONE hates it. As long as there is ac in the summer, heat and lights in the winter, people do not hate the old themeing.
I think its foolish for one to assume that more people would come if you dropped the old time, or if you got away from classic theme of sdc, or that it doesnt matter. Quite the opposite actually. I also think its very foolish to think millenials or the next generation dont care about or dont like the old time 1880s theme of the park. I think a lot DO like it, especially millenials like me with kids. Just because we have iphones doesnt mean we dont like some good 1880s ozarks hillbilly theme. Its what sets sdc apart and gets people coming back.
Now i think sdc is doin a good job had a good trip this year. Im just throwing this out there in case these felings exist within the PTB now or do at any time in the future.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: Your Attraction Ideas
« on: August 01, 2017, 04:12:58 PM »
Well here's my entire plan. 
American Plunge - removed
Falls at Lumber Camp - removed
Lumber Camp Lake - removed

The new show building will be built into the current hill at the back of the Lumber Camp Lake.  The building will more than likely stick above the current height.  The building will be disguised as a hill with faux rock work.  The ride entrance and queue building will be located pretty much where the Wildfire arch is located.  The splash down will be on the north side of the new Lake (I say new because the current one needs work as it is losing water).

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As far as what to do for a new log ride?  I have a few possible new locations. 
1. Where kiddie rides are in Grand Expo (that area could then be closed off in Winter)
2. Where Waterboggan was located - themed to Firemans Landing
3. Somewhere in the Homestead Region
So the log ride would be entirely different than the flume style ride? Would the flume ride be all indoors untill the final drop?
If they are different, couldnt you just do the log ride where AP now is?
Perhaps Im misunderstanding what youre getting at.
I do think that if they are to revamp a current area the place you are suggesting would be my choice if its within the park. Nothing in the area is iconic, especially with the waterfall being off limits. Would lose a tranquil lunch spot but oh well, burgers are better at wagonworks anyway.
My first choice would be doing things in Grand Expo, as it doesnt feel like SDC and something different could get more traffic there or help it out a little so to speak.
I think the Homestead region needs to be off limits to these types of things. Old waterboggin area jas to be used eventually for somethin.
Id be more interested in the theme.
 I also think AP is such a great theme if done right for a ride like that. Would it be impossible to redo the entire ride, keep the theme (but with different elements, etc of course) or do they feel like they have to re brand it?
Runners idea is great, but it cant be one ride. That would mean re doing the current FM, and thats a no no for me, and probably for the park logistics too as they need all indoor rides and whole family rides.
No reason you cant have two rides with central theme though.

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Branson Talk / Re: Shepherd of the Hills. Not going to Open
« on: July 12, 2017, 06:28:33 AM »
Sorry, I'm serious old school...ok, revamp the tower, please keep tours and play...but I think it is such a historical property that as much of the old as can be saved should be saved. Apparently the old campground property across the highway is part of the homestead property, so if it is, revamp the campground and add a lodge and you got your resort, but don't put the resort on the homestead side please. Add some attractions if you need to, but be selective and make it quality, not some cheap stuff. I agree to put some money into the property to freshen it up, but manage wisely, so it will be there for future generations. This property is where tourism as we know it began in Branson.
Agreed. That cabin needs to stay where it is, where it belongs. National historic landmark.
And I agree with the other idea...you should be able to go in without having to do a tram tour.

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Branson Talk / Re: Shepherd of the Hills. Not going to Open
« on: July 10, 2017, 01:33:24 PM »
Obviously they cant continue to operate it as is considering they werent making money before. But I hope they keep the cabin where it belongs and open for tours, as well as the drama in some form and then improve the area in other ways. Obviously insporation tower isnt going anywhere.

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Construction/Rumors / Re: SDC's 2018 Project(s) and Park Developments
« on: July 10, 2017, 01:30:13 PM »
Got to admit, I hate this building a ride over two seasons stuff...Riverblast, Outlaw Run, and this one...but I know the winter season ain't Nov. Thru March anymore, and the cost for a new attraction is crazy high and takes a couple of budget years to pay for it...but It does appear that this new thing is gonna be a hum dinger...if they stick with the time traveler thing I wonder if Uncle Rube Dugan makes a reappearance here and I admit I kind of hope he does...my ol' Uncle Rube is a fellow I am very much fond of. Been fun seeing all the photos being posted. I hope I can be there opening day next year to see how it all unfolds.
Great to see you post Junior!

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Dollywood Discussion / Whats Dollywood like?
« on: June 30, 2017, 08:31:57 AM »
Never been there, but from what I gather its a lot like SDC? How comparable is it?

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2017 Trip Reports
« on: June 27, 2017, 08:31:26 AM »
I agree..why build new coasters when you cant keep up your current ones. PK never opens on time, TnT is not that old, your signature indoor ride needs help...etc.
Ok go ahead and murder me but id rather see them keep the park in shape, then worry about a new coaster. Of course they could be planning to fix up TNT

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General Silver Dollar City Talk / Re: 2017 Trip Reports
« on: June 25, 2017, 12:22:05 PM »
Went to SDC three times this past week. All great trips. I will present the highs and the lows.
-Flooded mine was in great shape. I was so happy and made multiple rides. It was also quite busy thursday.
-walked right on to outlaw run a few times. Great ride.
-powder keg really doesnt get old.
-food at SDC is reasonably priced for theme park. Throw in free ice water and i have no idea why anyone complains. Ate at lumbercamp, wagon works, along with eva and deliliahs once for breakfast and grabbed some cinnamon bread. Burgers at wagonworks are superior to lumbercamp. We make our own skillets at our cabin so we dont get those at sdc. Also tried the outlaw run ice cream for the first time and WOW. Also good to see more taffy being made at phoebes.
-saloon show was very good other than one modern music number.
-firemans landing was fun for my daughter. Glad they kept a sort of splash pad...thats a hit.
-we did our first ever sing a long in the church and it was wonderful. Love that church.
-cajun connection was sounding excellent in front of a FULL dockside theatre.
-many crafstmen and shops and signs reminded me why i love SDC!

The bad....
-FITH is in rough shape
-AP still not updated ( i know we all know this )
-thunderation was rough
-powderkeg was again not ready to open after chain drop. It seems they simply refuse to start getting it ready so its ready to go by then. Why should i get there before opening if the staff doesnt care to? Whats worse is the employees working PK were looking extremely tired and LAZY. They also didnt seem to care to fill anyone standing on line in on what was going on. Very poor all around.
-saw a few citizens texting. Just wait until you are in a back room.
-good to see ghost trap there but it wasnt working that i saw.
-on FM "im gettin outta here no matter what" wasnt playing....but everything else was excellent so no big.
-a few water features werent working...

Overall it was a great trip and there were many things about the park i was glad to see. I peeked over the fence to look at the new coaster but just shrugged and continued enjoying the other aspects of the park. Aint no use doin the choppin til the dogs have treed the coon. Hope to make it back for Christmas.

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SDC Memories/ Park History / Re: What IS this song??!
« on: June 16, 2017, 09:13:07 AM »
Thanks for tracking that down...looks like my fears are realized--theres no way to get this song!

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SDC Memories/ Park History / Re: What IS this song??!
« on: June 15, 2017, 09:37:45 PM »
Can we get ahold of him?
The lady at sdc forwarded my email to three other people and nothing. She was bothered by it too.

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SDC Memories/ Park History / What IS this song??!
« on: June 15, 2017, 08:59:21 PM »
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=egNeoBBabKw&feature=related

Click on the above youtube link. This is the chain drop song, not sure if its still used. But I cannot track down its title and who sings it (though i can picture a guy who used to sing it live at the gazebo at SDC)
Fast forward to 40 seconds to get the really recognizable part.
I have even emailed SDC...they have no idea. I find that strange. :-\
Hopefully someone here knows it!

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SDC Memories/ Park History / Re: Flooded Mines 50th season, 2017
« on: June 11, 2017, 04:14:02 PM »
Great pictures sir, cant wait to ride this year!

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