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General Category => Other Parks => Topic started by: shavethewhales on September 11, 2007, 03:41:36 PM
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Screamscape seems to think that SFStL is confirmed for a new GCII woodie in 2008. Naturally, there are no sources, no clues, or any info to give us incite onto why this is so, seeing as they just got a new coaster last year, among other things.
Screamscape does have a few good sources here and there though, so at this point, who knows. I'm hoping for another Renegade, but this time with more filling.
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The rumors on this have been all over the place. A CGI would be my Second choice for the park, just after a B&M hyper. Only time will tell.
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Don't they have a ride called The Boss? I know it's a woodie but it might be a different park.
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Yeah, they have the Boss and the Screamin' Eagle, both of which are great woodies. Thus, there's even less probability that this rumor is true, but still..
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I didn't think The Boss was that great. I'm not one of the people that like to get my head banged around.
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I'm starting to think it really will be a GCI. This makes me super happy. The 4 GCI coasters I've ridden are some of my favorites.
The park's PR manager has agreed to send me all the details on Oct. 1
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I hate to be a skeptic, but why is everyone so sure this is going to be a woodie? It could be another family play area for all I've seen.
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Six Flags doesn't always focus on the families.
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They might not, but seeing as that's pretty much all Snyder want's to do right now, I'd expect something more along those lines than two new coasters in a row. After all, what was that about getting out of the sporadic coaster-building game? I guess this wouldn't be so sporadic, and it would be a good move all around, and I do want to see it happen, I just don't see why everyone's so sure it is happening already. After all, we haven't seen any piles of wood or footers yet, have we?
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They opened a huge new kids area last year. It was 10 rides and a gigantic play structure and water fountains to splash in.
Wood is Good and is most likely on the way.
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I've been to SFSL once and I did not enjoy myself. Just doesn't have the charm of SDC/Disney. I did like the Batman ride though.
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GCI all the way! Here's the deal: Outlaw and Ozark Wildcat are great examples of smallslower coasters can pack all of the punch of a mega coaster if they are designed correctly. A coaster of about 70 feet would contrast the boss very well. Personally, I don't think they're building more coasters this year. They just built Tony Hawk and I am in agreement with the earlier post that SF is tryng to go with families.
A couple of years ago, everyone was just posiive that SF was building a stand up. . . never happened.
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So apparently the announcement will be on Thursday, and it's pretty well confirmed to be a GCII, according to the MiG editor.
I'm hoping for something like Troy, but given that SFStL already has 2 big woodies, I'm thinking this will probably be a mid-sized coaster with some crazy twists. Maybe we'll see and expansion on what they did with Renagade, but with even more radical curves and such. Wouldn't it be cool if they went for an over-bank? TGG has been really impressing everyone with their 90* turns, so you'd expect GCII to fight back...
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http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/FA207BDCCCDD1D9C862573620074A6E6?OpenDocument
It's out, and it's officially a GCII woodie with Millenium flyer trains. It sounds like it will be a clone of Thunderbird in Finland, which I have always thought looked exceptionally good. The only downside to all of this is that it will be themed to Evil Kineval - lame. I don't want to know what name they've come up with for this.
I guess it's different at least, even original.
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SFSTL has a history of lame theming so the EK theme comes as little surprise, but I wish it weren't so.
Name aside, I'm a huge GCI fan and it sounds like my 1-2 visits to SFSTL per week will be increased to 2-3 per week next season.
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Two coasters in two years?!?!? WOW!!!!!!! I am happy for the park and shocked all at once. I am especially happy about a small twister. Does this guarentee Screaming Eagle's demise over the next 3-5 years though? Orrrr- they couldn't possibly be thinking of making STL the next mega park? Surely not.
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Why would they even consider taking out SE?
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I've read other people talking about that possibility. I personally hope they don't remove Screaming Eagle. I only love the coaster more every time I ride it. I was hoping that if I mentioned it, someone would either fan the flame with confirmation or knock the rumor down. I think that the possibility has to be looked at. Three woodies?
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Trust me, the Eagle is there to stay! ;)
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Do they have any pictures of the new woodie out?
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I think that the possibility has to be looked at. Three woodies?
Meh, if any woodie is to go, my bet would be on the Boss. Although that would seemingly be a bad business decision based on the fame Boss brings to the park, maitainence and the fact that no one likes the ride would make it much more likely to get taken out over most everyone's favorite ride at SFStL, nostalgically speaking.
Screamscape has some pictures, but they don't do the ride justice. This should give you a better idea -> http://rcdb.com/ig2955.htm?picture=34
If it turns out like Thunderbird did, it'll be an easy winner.
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Man, if it's anything like that, it'll be very compact. I sure hope SDC's will be bigger than that. If we get one.
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If we get one, it'll be a custom, conformed-to-the-terrain beast. Just as with most things at the park, if SDC gets a woodie, it'll be planned out carefully to be the absolute greatest ride it could be. I'm pretty sure the Herschends have been planning on a woodie for some time now, so they'll really be ready to work their magic on this beast.
Anyway, I'm still having trouble seeing why specifically a woodie like this was chosen for SFStL this year. I mean, it's nice and all, but wouldn't a large new looping coaster or a hyper make more marketing sense?
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Maybe SFSL is trying to be the 'woodie' park....
I don't know though. If their planning on taking out any of the two existing woodies they should take out the Boss. After riding that thing you need some Aspirin. But I don't think they'll remove any of the rides. Not very much business sense.
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The Boss is a total pain. I would love it if SF swallowed their pride and burned that thing to the ground.
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So is the name of the new coaster actually Evel Keneval (sp?)? Wow, I thought that was only the theme... See, to some degree, this theme could work, but it would have done much better on a Vekoma motorbike coaster, or something similar, not a regular wooden coaster. They could have just opened a zoology book and picked a random animal to name it after rather than attempt something so... odd. The same goes for Goliath at SFFT.
Hell, Beaver: The Ride would have been much better.
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So is the name of the new coaster actually Evel Keneval (sp?)?
Appearantly so, Clicky (http://rcdb.com/id4045.htm)
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Shaver-
"The same goes for Goliath at SFFT" AMEN! What a stupid name for a Batman at only 105 feet. I wonder if everyone will call it Batman anyway. Hey- do they call the other identcal coaster in the same town only 11 miles away at SEAWORLD, Batman too. Is that insane or what? I have never heard of building twin 10 million dollar investments in the same small city. SF took a stupid pill.
http://www.rcdb.com/id278.htm
Shaver-
Sorry to mention you again, but your posting was nothing short of brilliant. You're absolutely correct that a motorcycle coaster would have been totally ground breaking. SFSTL would have put itself on the map. "You the Man" Shaver
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Suggested names for the existing coasters at Six Flags StL:
Sean Hannity's American Eagle
Bruce Springstein's Boss
Bruce Lee's Ninja
Batman (Remain the Same)
Mr. Freeze (Remain the Same)
Boss Hogg's Mine Ride ?
Tony Hawk (Remain the Same)
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Well yes the name of a stunt man probably doesn't go well with a woodie. I could see a red-white-and blue Euro fighter with multiple interversions being called this. But the track lay out is great, and it's very compact. Compact Woodies are always cool because it look like your going to hit the tracks. This happens once in The Boss.
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Sean Hannity's American Eagle
That would be enough to keep me from riding it. ::)
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So now that the man himself is dead, will the impact of the ride be affected? I would think that after a few years, the park will change the name and theme of the ride, simply because Evel will be completely lost in history soon. I mean, I barely knew who he was when they announced the ride, how will the next generations know of him? After all, the fact that this coaster type doesn't convey the theme at all isn't helping.
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It's a name for a ride. There was never going to be any real themeing to it anyways -- who cares...
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Umm isn't it little cruel to call the name of a ride lame when it's namesake just died? In case everybody didn't know, the old stunt man died. I'm sure it was heart related since the guy has a bad health history, and he was that age where heart attack is common. Besides the name being a little strange for a natural colored, compact coaster, the ride will be great, since SF is good at planning with GCI. Also, whoever it was that said they might loose a woodie there, you guys are WAY off. Especially thinking that the Boss woul go. Six Flags spent a TON of money on that, and there are some people who enjoy it, after all, the line can get pretty long. Screaming Eagle won;t go either because it's a classic woodie with lot's of good airtime, and a ex record braker. Six Flags is a company with hitory of bankruptcy etc. After all, theres alot of parks for them to worry about.
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Umm isn't it little cruel to call the name of a ride lame when it's namesake just died?
No, not really. I still think it's a terrible choice of a theme, though it has so many possibilites elsewhere. It's bad because it feels like they just took a stock wooden coaster and cheap americana theme and slapped them together old SF style.
Also, whoever it was that said they might loose a woodie there, you guys are WAY off. Especially thinking that the Boss woul go. Six Flags spent a TON of money on that, and there are some people who enjoy it, after all, the line can get pretty long. Screaming Eagle won;t go either because it's a classic woodie with lot's of good airtime, and a ex record braker. Six Flags is a company with hitory of bankruptcy etc. After all, theres alot of parks for them to worry about.
Hey, that was just loose talk. All I'm saying is that the Screaming Eagle commands more importance than most people will give it credit. The rumors of it being phased out surely can't be true.
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"Knievel's death was confirmed by his granddaughter, Krysten Knievel. He had been in failing health for years, suffering from diabetes and pulmonary fibrosis, an incurable condition that scarred his lungs."
-ESPN Website
I am so torn on this subject. I am absolutely excited about the design of the coaster. I'm surprised about discontent with the coaster itself. The name . . .surely SF knew that they were building a coaster in the name of a dying man. He was going down hill for a while. I am assuming that SF has talked to the family.
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All I'm saying is that the Screaming Eagle commands more importance than most people will give it credit. The rumors of it being phased out surely can't be true.
You're right about the Eagle deserving more respect. Plenty of enthusiasts love it, but for others it's an overlooked gem. I can assure you that the Eagle will be part of the park for years to come, if not forever. My talks with the park's GM have confirmed that the Eagle is staying!
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The only thing with the boss is that its a really good coaster that has alot of bad days.
It just depends on the sortof coaster you enjoy.
Personaly, i think theres nothing wrong with the Screamin Eagle, and the boss is getting retracked a little last I heard, that might fix some of the insane rattleyness