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Silver Dollar City & Celebration City Discussion => General Silver Dollar City Talk => Topic started by: Coaster on September 01, 2007, 10:19:09 AM

Title: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 01, 2007, 10:19:09 AM
Welcome to the overly anticpated (by me) debate thread!! This is the place where you get to argue with fellow members! (Don't get too testy!) Follow all basic forum rules, and don't bring this conversation into any thread. If you must take it to the OOTT. (Official Off Topic Thread). All debates will be Silver Dollar City, Celebration City, OR White Water related.

You probably skimmed through the above paragraph because you just want to see the first debate. The first debate is.....

(Drum roll please)

Debates to Date
Sep. 1-Sep. 15:    Where is your favorite place to relax at Silver Dollar City? Debate Closed. Debate ended on Page 4.
Sep. 15-Sep. 30:   What is your favorite smell at SDC? Debate Closed. Debate ended on Page 4.
Oct. 1-Oct. 16:  What will we really see at Silver Dollar City in 2008? Debate Closed. Debate ended on Page 6.

Debate Number Four:

Should Celebration City stay open for the Christmas season?


You debate....You decide.

This debate will end on October 31. A new debate will be posted on November 1.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on September 01, 2007, 06:52:58 PM
The replica cabin at the edge of the main square behind the basket shop -easily. Hardly any SDC patrons ever find that place, even after years of visits. It's not necessarily secluded, but it's very out-of-the-way. You pretty much have to be wandering purposelessly to find it. The cabin is a mock-up of what a real frontier cabin would have been like in the 1880's, and has been at the park since the 60's. Inside are various amenities from the time period, including a bed and stove. Being right at the edge of the woods and in a quite part of the park makes it a great place to just sit and think.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 02, 2007, 10:40:11 AM
I know exactly where that is Whales. We always have to make a trip to the basket shop because of my mom. My favorite places to relax are the Saloon Show and the train ride. I love the saloon show it's a hilarious show. You've also got food, drinks, laughs, and saloon girls. (No offense to the women here). I like the train ride because it was my favorite ride when I was a baby, on my first trip to the park, on up til like ten years old. Then I got into the roller coasters. It's also just a relaxing journey through the woods surrounding SDC. Very beautiful place.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Joy on September 02, 2007, 11:39:07 AM
I really can't decide on a single place in SDC that I can relax at because SDC as a whole is a place I go to to relax and get away from real life.

I enjoy the view and quietness in the Wilderness Church. I like the loud splashing of the waterfall behind the Lumberjack Camp. I love the endearing sounds of children squealing as they play at Geyser Gulch.

With the murmur of the crowds, the screams of coaster riders, and the general buzz of the atmospheric noises, it all adds up into a nice lulling sound that makes me feel peaceful no matter where I sit in the park to relax.

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 02, 2007, 01:12:57 PM
Geyser Gulch is like the least relaxing place in the park for me. All those little kids running around being noisy and yelling. Gives ya a headache almost. Sometimes while in line for the Lost River you can hear them across the lake. It's nuts!
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on September 02, 2007, 07:18:45 PM
I used to like just hanging out around the waterfall, but then they took out the pathway that went right under it. Anyone know why they did this?
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 02, 2007, 07:24:07 PM
I hate it that they took out the path behind the waterfall. It was a very relaxing place to go. I have no idea why they took out the path.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: sdcfan17 on September 02, 2007, 07:39:18 PM
no its been closed foe ever
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 02, 2007, 07:40:12 PM
We never said it was going to come back. We were all wondering why it was closed.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Joy on September 02, 2007, 09:34:26 PM
I have no idea why it closed, but from the last time I was on it (I think it was '02 or '03), it did seem like it'd become a bit rundown. I imagine it was probably a structural issue, as SDC doesn't typically take down things unless it's a safety problem or something.

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on September 02, 2007, 10:44:20 PM
I'm sure it had something to do with kids loitering, or someone doing something dangerous to get at the water. Or maybe insurance struck again like with the cave/slides.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 03, 2007, 11:44:00 AM
It makes me mad that people can be so stupid and ruin other people's property. Like the Wildfire queue line, have you guys seen how much grafiti (sp?) is on the walls?? Grrr! It makes me want to scream. I've never seen anyone actually write on the walls, but if I do I'll tell them to quit. Of course, I don't know if they'd listen to a teenager.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on September 03, 2007, 11:49:51 AM
^That's not even close to the amount of graffiti in TGS's line. Last I was there, a kid decided to scrawl his name all over the wall, and a ride attendant told him he'd be escorted out of the park. Well, then mommy and daddy came to the rescue and started a fight with the ride op., rather than notice what their son was doing, much less be bothered to punish him. It's like they had their family honor trodden on, the way they fought. They said they'd sue because there were no 'don't grafitti' signs, therefore the punishment was unreasonable.

Yeah, don't put to much faith in humanity.

Anyway, back onto the topic at hand, there's a nice place to sit and eat near ThuNderaTion, behind the food skillet stands. It's very wooded and has a nice view over the valley where the ampitheatre is, although there are usually plenty of people around.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 03, 2007, 11:54:47 AM
Yeah, I remember you talking about that family on the pictures page on the site. If my parents caught me writing on anything of someone else's property I'd be in soooo much trouble. If I wrote on a wall at SDC I bet they'd make us go straight on home and leave the park immediately.

Anyways, I'm trying to think of the place your talkin about Steve...I think it's right next to some restaurant and there's a bunch of picnic tables around. Am I right?
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on September 03, 2007, 11:59:32 AM
Yes, directly behind the magic shop and the big skillet place.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 03, 2007, 12:03:40 PM
Okay, I know what your talking about then. I like the smells of that area!
 
Another cool place to relax for me, is the Wildfire overlook. The screams of roller coaster riders relax me for some reason. But as I said earlier, not the screams of kids at Geyser Gulch.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Joy on September 03, 2007, 07:07:10 PM
Anyway, back onto the topic at hand, there's a nice place to sit and eat near ThuNderaTion, behind the food skillet stands. It's very wooded and has a nice view over the valley where the ampitheatre is, although there are usually plenty of people around.

I ate in that area last year. Yeah, it was really nice and peaceful in that area.

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 06, 2007, 06:41:23 PM
I also like to relax at the American Plunge splash zone. Of course if I'm not in the mood to get wet I back up. Anybody else like this spot?
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Joy on September 06, 2007, 06:59:47 PM
Speaking of the American Plunge splash zone, I swear I remember there being an observation bridge over the splashdown that was close enough for people to get wet from the splash.... But the bridge that is there isn't remotely close enough to get wet from...

Did they change the bridge or something?

I've never really thought about relaxing by the splash zone, but then again, we don't usually spend much time in that area.

I do like to stand alongside Lost River and watch people go by. For me, one of the more relaxing eating experiences is sitting at the Riverside Ribhouse and watching people go by on the ride.

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on September 06, 2007, 07:59:30 PM
^Especially in the very back of that pavilion attached to the rib house, there's hardly ever anyone there, and it's a great place just to gorge yourself with BBQ in peace. Of course, now that the path to Wilson's farm is next to it, it's a little more exposed, but it's still nice, and the trees growing up through the roof are a nice touch.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: sdcfan17 on September 07, 2007, 07:55:51 AM
well I used to (not any more) go up top of the lumberjack camp restraunt and watch the waterfall but not anymore because they took it away.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on September 07, 2007, 03:44:15 PM
^I think you can still eat up there, it's just closed off irregularly for cleaning and other things.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: sdcfan17 on September 08, 2007, 09:46:57 AM
yeah i know you can still eat up there but without the waterfall it takes the effect away.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Joy on September 08, 2007, 10:17:45 AM
The waterfall is still there. You can't walk behind it anymore, but the waterfall is definitely still there.

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 08, 2007, 10:57:18 AM
I thought you went to SDC a lot Sdcfan. The path behind the waterfall used to be one of the top places in SDC to rest your feet. Not anymore though....
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: sdcfan17 on September 08, 2007, 09:31:17 PM
it is never on when i'm there and i do go there alot I live in springfield and I my grand parents work down in branson I could tell you alot about that park
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 08, 2007, 09:38:01 PM
I think most of us here know a lot about the park. Most of us have been going for years. I've been going for 14 goin on 15 years.

They can turn the waterfall on and off?

Dumb question probably....
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on September 08, 2007, 10:20:20 PM
^Yeah, now that I think about it, I have seen the entire waterfall off before. In fact, don't they turn it off in the winter?
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 08, 2007, 10:21:28 PM
I've never seen it turned off before but it would make sense to turn it off in the winter. But doesn't that look weird??
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Joy on September 09, 2007, 10:02:23 AM
Yeah, they turn the waterfall off for the Christmas season and string lights down it to look like a waterfall of Christmas lights.

I've seen it turned off other times, too, usually due to cold temperatures. I do believe it was off when I was there in April; that weekend was EXTREMELY cold.

But I was there last summer, and it was definitely on.

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 09, 2007, 02:44:14 PM
Yeah, they have no reason to turn off the waterfall in the summertime. I hope the path behind the waterfall is brought back someday.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on September 09, 2007, 02:48:20 PM
Hmmm, wouldn't it be nice if they re-did some of the old Jim Owen's canal and put a garden/rest area in next to it? That could be a really nice area for when they connect the loop from PK to Wildfire. I know for a fact that many people end up sitting around on Wildfire's deck or around PK's launch section for hours at a time waiting for their kids/loved ones to get done riding - they'd be appreciative of a nicer place to sit.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 09, 2007, 02:52:02 PM
I agree. The launch area around PK and the observation deck at Wildfire offer no shade at all.  I think it'd be a good idea to put in a rest area in that spot. Where is the canal located though?? I don't know if I've ever seen it.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on September 09, 2007, 02:54:29 PM
It winds around and under the Wildfire overflow queue. I believe they still pump water through it, but I don't know how. I mean, the canal originally went past the whirlpool scene on AP. It must go pretty far back there, I've never been able to see exactly where it starts from Wildfire's lift.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 09, 2007, 03:00:20 PM
That's interesting. So is there even enough room for a rest area??
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: sdcfan17 on September 10, 2007, 04:01:20 PM
yeah they would have the room for it it would be a very nice touch to the new pathway, I don'nt know if you guys smoke or not this is kind of random but do you guys think that the smoking areas take away the effect of the old days and i hate the smell of smoke!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on September 10, 2007, 04:04:21 PM
I hate the smell of smoke too, which is why I'm glad they keep the smokers in small areas. I'd like to see them do away with it completely (no offense to smokers, but you wouldn't like it if I went around setting stink bombs off around you), but that kind of thing can drastically hurt attendance. Smokers have a hard enough time coping with 'being unreasonably forced away from society' as if smoking is a part of their humanity and they have to do it around other people.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 10, 2007, 07:44:55 PM
I was going to post that earlier but I was afraid someone here smoked so I didn't. I absolutely HATE the smell of smoke. And it's not good for my sister, because if she's around too much she'll get asthma. So we walk by really fast through the smoking areas.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Joy on September 10, 2007, 08:50:48 PM
I have a very strong negative physical reaction to cigarette smoke. I mean, I can be sitting in my room, and my stepdad can be outside a story down from my closed window, and I can still physically pick up on the smoke. My chest tightens, my breathing gets shallow, etc.

So, I like that SDC has created designated areas. As much as I'd love to see them go completely smoke-free, I have a stepmom who smokes a lot, and if they had no areas to smoke in, she just wouldn't be able to go to SDC at all. I WOULD like to see them perhaps move a couple of the areas where they're a bit farther from the main areas of traffic 'cause sometimes the smoke wafts over and it feels like there's no use even having designated areas.

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 10, 2007, 08:52:25 PM
Yeah, it'd be more respectful of others.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: sdcfan17 on September 12, 2007, 09:50:12 AM
in my opinion they should just do away with the smoking I mean if someone can't go without somking for 5 or 6 hours then they got some issues. Anyway do you guys know anything about seeing paint on the ground by wildfire for the new loop. I heard that from a friend but I don't know if its true or not, have you guys heard about it??
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on September 12, 2007, 03:48:53 PM
^No. I was under the impression that the loop completion wouldn't be for another few years.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 12, 2007, 07:30:06 PM
Yeah, I hope the loop gets done soon though. Save a lot of walking.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on September 12, 2007, 07:33:39 PM
Of course, the loop also means more crowds for both PK and Wildfire. It's hard to explain, but the closer two large attractions are, the more people congregate around them. The new woodie on the other side of the park will help some of that though.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 12, 2007, 07:41:27 PM
I understand completely. That's why in some other thread (I don't remember which) I posted that I don't want everything to be placed over on the left side of the park. You need some things over on the other side, so people aren't congested in one area. Right now the top two coasters (and FITH) are all pretty close together. The woodie on the right side would help a bunch.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 15, 2007, 10:38:27 AM
Here ye! Here ye! Today is the last day to debate about this topic! This topic will probably be closed around 10:00 tonight sometime. A new debate will be posted in the morning tomorrow.

So if you have some things you haven't said yet about your relaxing spots please tell! Let's have an interesting day on the forums!
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 15, 2007, 08:51:04 PM
Debate number 2 is now up! Check first post.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on September 16, 2007, 01:48:09 PM
Heh, favorite smell? The hell if I know: the apple butter store, the skillets, the BBQ pits, the taffy shop, the wood cutter's hut, and the sweet shop all rank pretty high in terms of smell.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Joy on September 16, 2007, 04:15:27 PM
Ah. One of my favorite smells of SDC is a very weird one, but it's a smell that whenever I smell it elsewhere, my mind is immediately transported to SDC.

That smell would hot black asphalt. There's something about the wafts of steaming tar from the walkways in the dead of summer that just becomes an immediate memory maker. Now every time I get out of the car at a store or something and it's hot out and the ground is hot, I can smell that smell and SDC always comes into my mind. It's become a comfort smell.

I also love the smell of the leather shop, the giant skillets, the woodchips on the ground in various areas, sawdust in the homestead area, and the watery smell that wafts off of Lost River and Lake Silver with a nice cool mist.

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on September 16, 2007, 08:09:21 PM
That's pretty funny. I never expected the asphalt to be mentioned here. But it's kind of weird, I always remember that smell too. My favorite smell is in the candy factory. YUM! And then you turn the corner and go buy some. Great stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on October 01, 2007, 04:23:27 PM
Debate 2 is closed. Debate 3 is now here!! Check first post..
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on October 01, 2007, 04:28:50 PM
Well, at this point, it's just about confirmed that Grandpa's mansion will get a make-over. As far as anything else goes though, everything is up in the air. I'm sure a number of possible options have been laid out as usual, and the upper management are waiting to choose. I do think though, that the city will try to appeal to the older, more mature crowd this year rather than younger families or thrill seekers. Young families have gotten the spotlight for the last several years, and thrill seekers will eat their hearts out next year - besides, old fogies are still one of SDC's largest attending groups.

I'm pretty much standing by what I said before about the Landing Midtown being revamped to hold more shops, but they may hold out on that area and add new shops elsewhere, like near the old Shanty Town area.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on October 01, 2007, 10:12:55 PM
Hmmmm, the old crowd. Interesting. So a new show?? I don't know what else they could do. More shops I guess.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: sdcfan17 on October 02, 2007, 07:53:37 AM
they should jjust build a whole new area for the older folks that has shops shows and places to eat.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on October 02, 2007, 11:05:04 AM
^Sounds a bit like what the entire park is already. Although, a new shopping hollow would be nice.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on October 02, 2007, 06:55:07 PM
We don't need a whole new shopping hollow. I think if they're going to be building some new shops they just need to build around the places where there is some space. The park needs to spread out some more. I was thinking this while I was at the park on Sunday, What would you guys think of a cheese shop? I think it'd be pretty cool. We could go in and get free samples. It'd be like Osceola Cheese. (if any of you know what that is).
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on October 02, 2007, 08:18:51 PM
^A cheese shop would work well in Wilson's farm. Hell, an entire dairy store with ice cream bar would work well in the farm.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on October 02, 2007, 08:38:00 PM
That is a really good idea!! Hmm, they could build on it.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Copper on October 03, 2007, 01:06:13 AM
That is a great idea and it would work with the parks theme as well. I agree Wilson’s farm would be a perfect location. I think is about time to connect Powder Keg and Wildfire. That would be a great location for a ride and shop mix. There would be some great views of the Ozarks in that space as well. I think a drop tower would be cool here in theme of a shot tower. (molten lead was dropped from a tall tower to make bullets)  I also think they need to repair the buildings they have right now. I think it is embarrassing to have several buckets to catch the rain throughout the hospitality house, pottery shop, candy shop... Great ideas!
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on October 03, 2007, 07:28:34 PM
The drop tower would look great on the path connecting Powderkeg and Wildfire.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on October 03, 2007, 07:33:39 PM
^Especially seeing as it would fit in so well with Powderkeg, as PK is themed to a mine more-or-less. Hell, PK even has its own shot tower already.

Yeah, I could definitely see the old shot tower plans come back to life within the next few years.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on October 03, 2007, 07:44:11 PM
Haha, yes. It would be the second shot tower at SDC. Would they get a mansion rehab and a new flat ride in the same year, or would it go over their budget?
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on October 03, 2007, 07:51:41 PM
^Seeing as they have $6-8 million to work with, and a mansion re-hab would only take a few hundred thousand at most, no. I still am wary of any new flat rumors for this year though. I mean, I know the Herschend have really bought into the ride craze during this decade, but I think they're feeling the backlash now with so many older visitors screaming for something new for them. I mean, like I said before, the shoppers and general park-goers are still a much larger draw for SDC than young families or thrill seekers.

Hopefully they'll hint at or announce something this month, because I'm really clueless at this point as to what they'll end up doing, but there's so much potential...
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on October 03, 2007, 08:03:34 PM
I loved the Giant Swing. I think flat rides work really well. I like old people also though.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: sdcfan17 on October 03, 2007, 08:35:46 PM
but, my grandparents also like to ride rides they still ride everything in the park and there liek 67, 68 and my great grandma still rides them too and shes 87!!!!
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Post by: shavethewhales on October 03, 2007, 09:27:46 PM
^What a family... :D

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Post by: Joy on October 03, 2007, 11:58:04 PM
I hope I'm that resilient at 87!

I think it'd be cool if they added another attraction that can have people of any age ride it, like how the Flooded Mine is. Too bad they don't seem interested in bringing back the Diving Bell any time soon...

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on October 04, 2007, 08:43:38 PM
^That kind of attraction really is what SDC is hungry for. I mean really, you just can't go wrong with something like the Lost River, which is thrilling enough for guys like me to enjoy, let easy enough for even the fogies to ride. That's why there's a good chance we'll be getting our own Beaver Battle like DW soon, probably as soon as 2010.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on October 04, 2007, 09:23:28 PM
I don't want a freaking splash battle. I want a flat ride and a mansion rehab. Splash battle would take up way too much land if you ask me.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Joy on October 04, 2007, 10:01:45 PM
I think a haunted mine dark ride in the vein of Disney's Haunted Mansion would be cool and something that all ages could enjoy.

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Copper on October 05, 2007, 12:14:11 AM
I think one of the best things about SDC is there is so much to do. It is not just rides, not just shops, not just craftspeople, not just shows it is all this and more.

Since this is debate thread, I am not saying do this, but what if they did remodel the Flooded Mine to be a haunted mine ride. Filled with better animatronics and special effects?
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Joy on October 05, 2007, 12:52:14 AM
That'd be kinda cool, though I'd prefer they built an all-new ride that's tracked and preserve the Flooded Mine as it is now.

I think there can believably be two mine rides in that vein since the Flooded Mine's story is about a mine where prisoner's work, whereas another one could be about a different mine that's haunted. Since SDC/Marmaros is a mining town, you really can't have too many mine-themed rides.

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on October 05, 2007, 03:39:20 PM
^I agree with Tinaalsgirl, though business-wise it would make more sense to just re-make the Flooded Mine. Hey, isn't the Flooded Mine supposed to be named 'Great American Shoot-out' or something like that? I had heard that the Flooded Mine was the name of the ride before the upgrade that brought the guns and targets, but no one would accept the new name.

Quite a few parks have multiple dark ride/ ride-through attractions though, and SDC has enough themes to fit 2 dozen of them.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Joy on October 05, 2007, 05:01:20 PM
The full title of the mine ride is "The Great Shoot-out at the Flooded Mine".

I think a dark ride would be a perfect addition to bring in soon so that the older folks (and pregnant people, like my sister) can have more rides they can enjoy.

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Copper on October 05, 2007, 10:51:30 PM
Yes, SDC is a mining town, so you can never have too many mine themed rides. I just know the Flooded Mine has lower attendance then what they would like and thought this could be a way to improve it.

Oh and yes, I like the name the flooded mine. shoot-out isn't bad, but whatever.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: sdcfan17 on October 06, 2007, 08:02:24 AM
I just call it the shoot out ride ;D
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Tom on October 06, 2007, 09:50:00 AM
As I read this thread, I keep thinking of a ride like Dark Knight.  The only problem is that we've already got Fire in the Hole. The more I think about it, the combination of the Shootout and Fire in the Hole really blocks SDC from developing a new dark ride.  We've got every dark ride that I can think of.  Even a wild mouse in a dark would be dumb compared to Fire in the Hole. Out of all the ideas, I think that the Dairy store development is the most refreshing for SDC. 
An Ice Slide or something along that concept may be another smart concept for the park.  Back in the 80s, there were several tobogan coasters around.  There was one in Nashville and there is still one in Dallas.  Perhaps that could work.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on October 06, 2007, 07:35:55 PM
^Ah yes, the ice house concept was so wildly popular just a couple of years ago, espcecially when everyone thought a B&M invert was going to be part of it.

I wonder if we will see a B&M invert at SDC any time soon. I mean, it's kinda away from their current strategy of targeting young families, but of all the coasters I would want built at SDC, a B&M invert would be at the top, above even a wooden coaster.
Maybe someday...
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on October 07, 2007, 08:51:47 AM
If SDC were going to get an invert I would want it like Patriot at WOF. Patriot is smooth and really fun. Although a short ride, it is a blast. And we all know SDC's would turn out better.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Joy on October 07, 2007, 11:14:34 AM
I've always had this idea of an invert being themed to where the riders are going in and out of a cave/mine from the perspective of a bat. Besides the explosives theme of Powderkeg, they haven't really done anything highlighting how important bats were to Marmaros, seeing as how it was their guano that they mined for nitro.

I think a coaster with tunnels is something that would be awesome at SDC; the only outdoor coaster right now with a tunnel is Thunderation.

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Tom on October 08, 2007, 08:50:42 AM
Being that I am a coaster enthuistist, this may sound a little odd for me to be saying, but if SDC builds an inverted coaster,I hope that it is specialized over being big and thrilling.    They do such a great job.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on October 08, 2007, 09:18:55 PM
I've always had this idea of an invert being themed to where the riders are going in and out of a cave/mine from the perspective of a bat. Besides the explosives theme of Powderkeg, they haven't really done anything highlighting how important bats were to Marmaros, seeing as how it was their guano that they mined for nitro.

I think a coaster with tunnels is something that would be awesome at SDC; the only outdoor coaster right now with a tunnel is Thunderation.

~ "Becky" Joy ~

Hmm....sounds cheesy. But SDC could make it extra thrilling and interesting. And tunnels are pretty rad.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on October 08, 2007, 09:23:22 PM
^Aside from the bat theme, which would be a harder one to pull off comparatively, I don't think anything with loads of tunnels is a bad idea at all. In fact, I'm really hoping that the next coaster has a few, as SDC doesn't seem to have incorporated any other than the one on ThuNderaTion. Mmmmm, a boulder dash with tunnels...

As far as inverted coasters go, it would be interesting to see if they could build it into a hill or pit like Nemesis. It wouldn't be as environmentally friendly, but they're already filling in gorge's and everything.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Copper on October 09, 2007, 10:41:16 AM
I always pictured a cave themed coaster. An inverted would be cool. There are some great themeing opportunities with that. The trains alone would be fun to theme; beat up      back packs on the back of each seat, the seat harness would be considered a back pack. Lots of tunnels would be cool. Name could be something like Spelunk??? I know some cavers hate to be called Spelunkers, not sure if the name would work or not.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on October 16, 2007, 07:32:27 PM
Check out Debate 4.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on October 16, 2007, 07:57:29 PM
I'm really beginning to think we should just do separate threads for these. Other than having a big messy thread, it's easier to talk about multiple things at once, or come back to a previous conversation.

Anyway though, I don't think CC has anything to offer in the wintertime, especially seeing as that's SDC's prime time. CC needs to concentrate on going back to that late night summer fun fantasy it was originally planned to be.
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Joy on October 16, 2007, 11:24:34 PM
Yeah, Celebration City wouldn't have anything that SDC doesn't have; and the colder it gets, the fewer rides that will be able to run, and therefore CC just wouldn't have much of anything to offer.

So, no, I think CC's current schedule is okay (except that I still think it needs to stay open later at night).

~ "Becky" Joy ~
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: Coaster on October 17, 2007, 09:30:36 PM
But they could do all the things SDC does...so why not?
Title: Re: The Official Debate Thread! (Another official thread by Coaster)
Post by: shavethewhales on October 17, 2007, 10:34:46 PM
They couldn't do any of the things SDC does. Besides, I don't even know if any of CC's rides besides OzCat would work in the cold.

The cannibalization of SDC's gate has gone far enough, and the Herschends know it. CC has to be an entirely different animal, attraction a somewhat different kind of crowd in different ways for it to survive. Otherwise, the park won't make it past a decade - at least as a theme park.