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Title: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 10, 2009, 06:18:19 PM
Here is a photo that was in with several Branson and Forsyth Photos
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/fishingtrip.jpg)
Do you notice any familiar faces?
Try this detail...
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/RoyRogers.jpg)
Look familiar?Maybe like this?(this one below is NOT from my collection just a stock photo)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/WillRogers.jpg)
Title: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 10, 2009, 06:29:11 PM
Same group of photos...My educated guess is that this might be Forsyth...Let me know what you think

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/ForsythorBranson.jpg)
Title: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 10, 2009, 06:35:16 PM
How about this then-now photo grouping? This is the reason why I bought these framed photos! I took one from nearly the same vantage point (as the statuon has been added on to) However you can still see all of the windows, bays etc in the original positions
The b/w is from the same collection as the previous posting of the White River (good guess right?)

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/BransonStation-Then.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/BransonStation-Now.jpg)
And a Detail from the Building/Crowd
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/BransonStationdetail.jpg)
Title: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sdcforever on July 11, 2009, 09:24:35 AM
Cool!  Thanks for posting these! :)
Title: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 11, 2009, 11:06:05 AM
Back to the fishing trip...
Does #2 Gentleman
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/man2.jpg)
Look like this gentleman...(old Matt-J.K. Ross of HBW novel SOTH)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/matt_mollie1204-1.jpg)
I am not a forensicologist, but I think I might be onto something here, the mouth, nose, eyes, and well a lack of beard, the gentleman holding this man up/supporting him for a photo...Will Rogers and now this man on a boat trip on the White River...I think it is definitely a possibility.
Will Rogers traveled the country from 1922-1935, Old Matt died in 1923...hmm
Title: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on July 11, 2009, 01:14:01 PM
Those are fun to look at.  I can see the possible WR connection.  I'm not sure about the OM comparison.  The fellow in the small picture has more "squared" eyes.  The tops of his eyes are flat while the fellow in the top picture has rounder tops to his eyes.  I'm not saying it can't be him though - it would certainly be a great find on your part to locate actual photos of well-known people.
Title: The Wayback Machine
Post by: KBCraig on July 11, 2009, 11:08:50 PM
Since both individuals are numbered, presumably there's a numbered list on either the margin or the back of the photo.
Title: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 14, 2009, 07:32:19 AM
Negative on that one KB, they were glued to board at some point. I am going to keep looking though, I don't believe I would have the ONLY copies of these photos IF in fact they ARE famous people. It HAS to be Will Rogers...or else a dang good look alike.
Title: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 14, 2009, 11:36:52 AM
I have identified this building from the signage on the window (yes it took some magnification, and a few misspelled names before I found anything!), as well as the hanging sign as the law offices of Charles H Groom in Forsyth MO. Groom served one term as county treasurer and was the youngest man who ever held office in the county. He was also an abstractor (one who collects info from multiple sources and condenses them) Not sure the reason this photo was taken but at least I have the location pegged!

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/firedeptforsyth.jpg)
Title: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 14, 2009, 11:48:35 AM
Maybe Doc can tell me who is in the picture since this fella by the phonograph seems to somewhat resemble him...
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/phonograph.jpg)
Title: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on July 14, 2009, 11:55:41 AM
Could the man third from right on the top row be your HBW?

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If you want to do some research, you can look up MWA, which is the acronym being spelled by the axes.  A quick search pulls up lots of MWA acronyms.

Could it be the Mystery Writers of America?  They don't look like authors.
Might they be the Missouri Whitewater Association?  It didn't exist until 1970.
The Millennium Wrestling Association?  Don't mess with an ax-wielding wrestler!
How about the Married Women's Association?  I don't think so.
Are they the Michigan Wolfdog Association?  Touring Forsyth?

The United States Department of Agriculture's Natural Resources Conservation Service - http://www.mo.nrcs.usda.gov/partnerships/mwa.html (http://www.mo.nrcs.usda.gov/partnerships/mwa.html) - says the Missouri Watershed Association (MWA) is an organization that was formed as a Missouri Nonprofit Corporation to support watershed projects.  Might this get you closer to an answer?  I'm not sure of the history of this MWA, but their description sounds like it might apply:

Quote
The purpose of the Association is to promote all reasonable measures to conserve soil and water; to educate, encourage and carry out watershed protection programs for the prevention of floodwater and sediment damage; and to further the conservation, development of agricultural water management, irrigation and drainage.

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Of course, those guys might just be throwing everyone a big kiss:  mwa!


Title: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on July 14, 2009, 11:57:56 AM
Maybe Doc can tell me who is in the picture since this fella by the phonograph seems to somewhat resemble him...

That's no phonograph - it's part of Timothy Turnbuckle's Time Machine!!!  Doc...is that you?  I now have some major concerns about the space-time continuum!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on July 14, 2009, 12:10:14 PM
Since both individuals are numbered, presumably there's a numbered list on either the margin or the back of the photo.

Any ideas as to who #3 might be?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 14, 2009, 01:18:01 PM
Man #3
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/man3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Coaster on July 14, 2009, 08:07:57 PM
Wow! That has to be Doc! Ha.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on July 16, 2009, 01:41:33 AM
#3 might just be Jeff Foxworthy's grandpa.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 03, 2009, 11:42:30 AM
Wayback machine set for the 1979! Get your Blondie and Pink Floyd LP's Out, and get ready to journey back 30 years! Here are a few images scanned from 35mm photos. The quality of the scans are not the greatest I just need to go back to the old scanner...
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture041.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture042.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture043.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture044.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture045.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture046.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture047.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture048.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sdcforever on September 03, 2009, 02:25:06 PM
Wonderful, as always, Rube! :)

Especially enjoy seeing the Rainmaker, The Vineyard, and the entrance.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: shavethewhales on September 03, 2009, 05:25:49 PM
Interesting. Where was Welch's Vineyard?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 03, 2009, 07:46:12 PM
If I can commandeer a better scanner I will get some more on here. I just wanna put them all on! They are great to look at! I have a few large format ones to share soon...Stay Tuned!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sdcforever on September 03, 2009, 08:06:10 PM
Interesting. Where was Welch's Vineyard?

Old Guy has all of the answers!  Here's his explanation from an earlier post.  A corporate sponsorship was forged with Welch's in the early 70's, and they opened the Vineyard Restaurant, which also featured a puppet show.
SDC's first puppet show was in the early 70's in what was then the Vineyard Restrant on the corner of Main and Hill street. A corprate sponsership was forged with Welch's Grape Juice to launch there new white and red grape juices. They wanted entertainment with a plug for them, so was born the "Wally Welch Revew", featuring an all grape cast of singing and talking grape puppets. The show went away with the sponsership  around 1978 or so the story says.....but after all the years the gristly truth can be told. One day while dining there I accidentally sat on Wally Welch and mashed him flat. He said nothing from that day forward...but he did let out a little wine. (Pause 2,3......)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Copper on September 03, 2009, 09:44:40 PM
Nice!!! The Vineyard is now the Wagon Works Grill.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: KBCraig on September 04, 2009, 08:46:30 PM
Thanks for the photos!

I miss the shot tower and the rainmaker.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: marolinesdad on September 05, 2009, 06:45:54 AM
There is a Shot tower at the entrance to Powder Keg...   My kids love to watch the bb's fall.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: betamike on September 05, 2009, 10:13:32 PM
The puppet show at The Vineyard is one of my most vivid memories as a kid, coming to SDC. 
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: docspeleo on September 13, 2009, 09:42:49 PM
okay.. so that picture is really really not me.. lol
but there is a resemblance  i didn't think so at first.. but the longer i stared at it the more i thought that it looked like me.  haha fun...
wasn't the guy in Back to the Future named doc? lol hahhaha

love the old pics by the way i could look at old pics like these all day
it's one of my favorite flickr searches
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 14, 2009, 10:38:22 AM
Honestly I spend so much time just remeniscing, and looking at childhood pictures, and I love looking for the older ones from pre-me times. Just to see the growth, and evolution of SDC is great in most cases, and in others it is a bit sad to miss the old attractions, or to have missed them altogether!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 15, 2009, 01:27:17 PM
Old Polaroids. Taken with a 1967-1969 Polaroid Land Camera

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/church3.jpg)

Damaged polaroid (overexposed) of the SDC Jail
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/church4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sdcforever on September 15, 2009, 07:03:48 PM
^Thanks for the pics!  It's nice to see a pic of the Wilderness Church actually in the wilderness! :)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Firstvisit1967 on September 15, 2009, 09:18:55 PM
Wow I had forgotten that it was once in the trees.  I do remember the view from the picture window being really special. 
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 28, 2009, 03:12:52 PM
Check out the unpaved path out here by where the entrance to Wilson's Farm is now!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/popcorn003.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 28, 2009, 05:18:21 PM
Notice that it is the "crossroads" pottery shop in the heart of midtown. This is the location presently of I believe a drawing/painting store, previously it was a jewelry store, and before that, cut glass, and before that I believe a tinsmith/pewter craftsmen, and then the pottery shop. I love that memories of this place. Including the old kiln chimney that is still outside of the store!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/popcorn004.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: KBCraig on September 29, 2009, 03:22:15 AM
I love this thread.  :)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 29, 2009, 01:11:26 PM
Me Too!!! I would like to add a photo every day, or average about 5 per week...so Stay Tuned! Wayback machine today is set for Marvel Cave Park!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 29, 2009, 01:20:36 PM
The Entrance to Marvel Cave Park. The Office can be seen in the background behind the covered wagon.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/wagon.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sdcforever on September 29, 2009, 04:23:36 PM
^Cool!  I also love this thread!  Who's the couple in the foreground?  Do you know?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 30, 2009, 08:14:16 AM
No, Unfortunately I do not know who the couple is. I could make up a nice story kind of like "You add the caption!" contests, but I will not subject you all to that here on Rube's Wayback Machine because we have more stops to make! Moving onward, or should I say backwards to the mid eighties...
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 30, 2009, 08:23:53 AM
Me, StlPhotogal, and Shad Heller. Unfortunately many visitors to the park have either never known, or have forgotten who Shad Heller is. If you get a chance pick up a copy of "SHAD" a biography of Lloyd "Shad" Heller. It is a good read for the SDC fan.
Not advertising certain websites, but Amazon has many used books...Here is a link if you are interested:
http://www.amazon.com/Shad-biography-Lloyd-Heller/dp/0910157006/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1254316732&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Shad-biography-Lloyd-Heller/dp/0910157006/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1254316732&sr=8-1)
 Having met and talked with Shad on several occasions as a child, it was like meeting a movie star.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/wagon-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: KBCraig on October 01, 2009, 03:40:50 AM
Wow, Rube... that's special!

I met and talked with Shad, but I never had my picture made with him. I admit being a little snobbish, because the "blacksmith shop" was cranking out aluminum castings, rather than real iron works. (Still does, from what I could tell on our June visit.)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 01, 2009, 08:46:12 AM
Rube's Wayback Machine Destination... 1977, the year of the blockbuster movies Star Wars, Saturday Night Fever, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Smokey and the Bandit. I miss these photos, but not the clothing! My parents always would tell me that they would take these photos to know who they were looking for in the cave if someone got lost (I am unsure if this is true or not to this day!). I had no clue they were also trying to find out the number of people able to fit in the train to exit the cave. I especially like the barefoot kid in the front row...so many steps to take in a cave without shoes on!

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/wagon-2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sdcforever on October 01, 2009, 09:31:04 AM
^I miss those photos too!  It's great to look back and see who toured the cave with you so many years ago.  Sometimes I find myself wondering what those people are doing now...
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on October 03, 2009, 11:06:45 AM
Quote
I could make up a nice story kind of like "You add the caption!" contests...

I love this idea!  It would be a lot of fun.

BTW, who's the happy guy in the front carrying a purse?  Is he with you?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 03, 2009, 03:17:40 PM
the Murse? (Man-Purse)- nope don't know him! I do think however, that the man in the exact center is the one who wins the award for the Best Polyester Or Cotton Navajo Tribe Print Shirt Of The Day (The BPOCNTPSOTD Award for those of you not on the Polyester shirt circuit or the "shirtcuit")
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on October 06, 2009, 04:58:21 PM
Anyone recognize the tour guide with the fro?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 08, 2009, 05:35:56 PM
Yes I know I talked about a photo/ item per day, during the week, but I have been on  a break for a week now, and I nearly got everything done I wanted (except a visit to the city) Here is an item to make up for my absence of posting! Wayback Machine set for pre 1960. If you have been on the lantern tour then you definitely have heard this name... I purchased this at auction for just a few bucks from what I remember a few years back.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/jar.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 08, 2009, 05:44:55 PM
Alright, I got in the posting mood, and could not stop! Wayback Machine set for Mar. 1, 1967

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/poffice-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: stlphotogal on October 09, 2009, 12:33:11 PM
LOL, Rube - - check out the matching socks/wristband combo on me in that picture with Shad. Wow. I remember him well, he was so nice - I think this was before he got really sick, if I remember right.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 09, 2009, 01:34:15 PM
Even better...here is the same hat from that photo! I think we need to go and reenact all our family photos of 20+ yrd of SDC!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/hat.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 09, 2009, 01:45:17 PM
Wayback Machine set for Feb 4, 1893. YES 1893!!! The original Scientific American on "Marble Cave of Missouri". If you want a good read, this is a great one. I can honestly say I have only seen 2 of these come up, and I was able to get mine for a steal >$20.00. This issue would have cost $0.25 in 1893=$5.92 present day. (Cover price in 1893 was $3.00 year for the subscription, with inflation that would amount to $71.00+!!! a year)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/scamer1893.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sdcforever on October 09, 2009, 03:07:36 PM
^That's awesome.  Very interesting, indeed, and exactly 90 years and 1 day before I was born! 8)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 11, 2009, 11:13:03 AM
Wayback Machine set for May 25, 1965...Amusement Business Weekly "Silver Dollar City aims for 1 million visitors"

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/photos024.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on October 11, 2009, 04:11:16 PM
^That's awesome.  Very interesting, indeed, and exactly 90 years and 1 day before I was born! 8)

Happy birthday, Whippersnapper!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 12, 2009, 08:41:03 AM
Wayback Machine set for Oct 1974, 35 years ago almost to the day. It is good to see that not much has changed in these photos...Well other than the awning, the dirt road, the signage...You get the point though...
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/form002.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 14, 2009, 12:44:57 PM
Wayback Machine set for January 7, 1958. Letter from Mary Herschend mentioning the new cave railroad that will soon be opening, and the new rooms recently expanded on tours of the cave.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/form009.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 20, 2009, 09:37:51 AM
Thought I'd put in an "old" looking photo of SteamFreak taken by TinMann on here. I took a few minutes to age this photo just for fun! I do this as a project with my social studies students using Civil War re-enactment photos every year. Enjoy!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/steam3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 20, 2009, 09:43:12 AM
Now for a real flashback... A Good Time Meal Adventure Kid's Meal box!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/photos022.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: SteamFreak on October 21, 2009, 07:34:17 PM
HAHA neato...don't exactly know why I'm in this stance...but still looks cool
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on October 22, 2009, 07:32:14 PM
That is clearly a supervisor stance.  You must be da man in charge.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 26, 2009, 09:01:07 PM
Flooded Mine
Using a 1964 Polaroid 180 Land Camera (with a slight light leak in the bottom left corner!)

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/floodedmine.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on November 02, 2009, 08:13:04 AM
1974
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/form007.jpg)

2009
(With the 1964 Polaroid camera)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/hermits.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on November 05, 2009, 04:45:47 PM
Here's another 8"x10" from 1974...Butterfield StagCoach Depot
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/form003.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on November 09, 2009, 11:43:15 AM
And another...I tried to do a then..and now, but the photo now would have had a large donation/spare change box attached on the front, and there was a show going on  at the porch, so I left it for another time.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/form004.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Coaster on December 20, 2009, 02:51:42 PM
I love this thread! Thanks for all the pictures Rube and keep em coming.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Twinsmom98 on December 21, 2009, 08:09:07 AM
I love seeing all the old pictures... I am justing waiting to see me in one of them.. I can't remember off the top of my head what year you might said these were but I have been coming to SDC since 1972.  I never grow tired of the place!!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: oldsdcer on January 07, 2010, 08:12:29 AM
Does anyone have pictures of when Bush the Elder gave his first post nomination speech for President on the parking lot?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: slow_walker on February 23, 2010, 07:44:09 AM
We need more old pictures here.  ;D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on February 23, 2010, 08:05:31 AM
ask, and you shall receive.........

that is if I have it, and I usually do!
"Snapshots of Marvel Cave Notch Missouri"
Leather bound photo album
-pre Marvel Cave Park-pre SDC-
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/notchphotos.jpg)

Heres a peek inside!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/CathedralRoomNotch.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/maHowardsMasterpiece.jpg)
"Mad Howard's Lost Masterpiece" this will resonante with any SOTH fan as to how rare this photo is!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sdcforever on February 23, 2010, 08:49:18 AM
^All I can say is WOW. :D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on February 23, 2010, 04:30:49 PM
More, more, more Rube! Nothing I have predates the 1960's, and I love seeing this really old stuff. Never knew the "snapshots" postcard book existed.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on February 23, 2010, 04:50:00 PM
Wait till the book is done Junior, Just wait!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on February 24, 2010, 05:06:54 PM
Yer killin' me, Rube! :(  (But,soon...have I gotta book for you!)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on February 25, 2010, 10:01:28 AM
Opening day at the Station of the Frisco Silver Dollar Line.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/photos015copy.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: SteamFreak on February 25, 2010, 10:13:11 AM
Now that's a great picture!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on February 25, 2010, 10:22:23 AM
 ;D Thanks
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on February 25, 2010, 02:37:51 PM
Ditto! :)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on February 25, 2010, 06:50:53 PM
So that's the original station location, atop the current site of the RiverBlast, right?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on February 26, 2010, 09:36:33 AM
RiverBlast is just across the tracks from this location in the picture...that depot was behind what was the old basket weaving shop...the building adjacent to the corkscrew that goes through the RiverBlast location (formerly Tom Sawyer's Landing) and into the Riverfront.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on February 26, 2010, 09:58:24 AM
Staying with the older items...
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/EarlyCathedralRoom.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on February 26, 2010, 10:42:26 AM
Oh, YEAH! ;D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Zephon on February 26, 2010, 10:05:28 PM
oldsdcer asked for some photos of Bush 1 visiting the park.  I have some that I scanned just for him.

The helicopter arrives (there were actually 3 of them)

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll238/Zephon907/SDC%20Stuff/Scan.jpg)

Mr. and Mrs. Bush

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll238/Zephon907/SDC%20Stuff/Scan8.jpg)

Another of the Bushes

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll238/Zephon907/SDC%20Stuff/Scan7.jpg)

George 1 with Glen Campbell, Jim Stafford, Boxcar Willie

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll238/Zephon907/SDC%20Stuff/Scan6.jpg)

Loretta Lynn (w/Mitch Kearsey & Rick McKuen, I think, on drums & bass)

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll238/Zephon907/SDC%20Stuff/Scan4.jpg)

Jim Stafford in front of a cool backdrop

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll238/Zephon907/SDC%20Stuff/Scan3.jpg)

Gov. Ashcroft and family

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll238/Zephon907/SDC%20Stuff/Scan1.jpg)



Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: oldsdcer on February 26, 2010, 11:01:20 PM
That Gov Ashcroft
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sdcforever on February 27, 2010, 09:31:39 AM
Yep, definitely Ashcroft.

Thanks for posting those Zephon! 8)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Zephon on February 27, 2010, 11:28:08 AM
Whoops...you're right.  Duh!  Editing now.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on February 27, 2010, 01:35:23 PM
Here is a goodie that I have held onto since about age 4-sometime
between deputy badges I guess
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Badges.jpg)
And another from the kid days-a wallett
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/OldKidsWallett.jpg)

Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 01, 2010, 10:50:38 AM
Maybe Steam or someone can help me out with this one...Is this the caboose that now is part of the scenery for the Hobos?-Regardless this is from the 1970's
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/WomensCrew1976.jpg)

Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: marolinesdad on March 01, 2010, 11:20:46 AM
The Caboose that is for the Hobos is not a real caboose.  The old one rotted down and the current one is just a fake.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 01, 2010, 11:42:05 AM
And you learn something new everyday!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/caboose.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: slow_walker on March 01, 2010, 11:43:42 AM
Pardon my ignorance, but what's the story behind the 1970's women's crew photo posted by Rube? The caboose itself was a restaurant? Where was it located? etc.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 01, 2010, 11:48:20 AM
No ignorance...I am trying to figure out the details myself! I notice the windmill, but the background buildings appear to be "back stage" somewhere...I dunno, I do know it is SDC-Branson staff...just no clue where it was taken!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Joy on March 01, 2010, 01:57:06 PM
You can barely see it, but on the sign, under "Restaurant" is a line of arrows pointing to the left... So I don't think the caboose itself was a restaurant....
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 01, 2010, 02:21:24 PM
WOW I never noticed that!  :D
I was envisioning what they used to have here at the McDonald's for kids birthdays inside a caboose ...Thanks for finding that..2 things I have learned today, watch out , my brain is gettin' full!!!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Joy on March 01, 2010, 03:52:38 PM
I remember eating in the McDonald's caboose they had/have in Barstow, CA. That was a pretty fun way to eat. I think it'd be pretty cool if they built a caboose restaurant at SDC!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on March 01, 2010, 04:09:20 PM
The ladies in front of the caboose are a mystery to me. Never heard of such a thing on park. Could this be a publicity shot taken somewhere else? What is the origin of your photo? I think I see light poles on a parking lot in the background on the right. It appears photo was taken in the 60s or early 70s.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 04, 2010, 10:22:13 AM
I must have sat in front of that photo for 15 minutes yesterday wondering where it could be...I am plumb out of ideas other than a PR event like you said, well moving on !!!

If only things were this cheap to get in now...
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/reciept1972.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 04, 2010, 10:27:10 AM
Here is oneof my favorite photos from around 82'
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/wheels.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 04, 2010, 10:34:58 AM
1964 I LOVE this one, it is taken right outside of the Blacksmith shop, the cars are parked where the candy store now is (The reverse of the sign says "Silver Dollar City Pop: 27 26 Subject to Change by the Marshall"
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Yaallcomeback.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sdcforever on March 04, 2010, 01:28:22 PM
Wow!  All three of those photos are amazing.  Your collection continues to impress me! :)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on March 04, 2010, 04:07:38 PM
NEVER have I seen what that area of the city looked like that far back! So who are the folks in the photo? It that your grandparents, Rube? Don't tell me this snapshot is something purchased of ebay or found in a flea market in Springfield! Keep 'em coming, Rube! Everytime you post something like this my jaw drops.  ;)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 05, 2010, 12:54:04 PM
Angle #2 looking up at the previous photo location from Flossie's Fried Fancies (Funnel Cakes). This is how I knew what appeared on the back of that sign!
My favorite part is the car parked RIGHT IN FRONT of the blacksmith shop!!!!! If only I could have that spot on my visits :D
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/blacksmith64.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on March 05, 2010, 05:29:13 PM
Rube! Can you tell us who the people are in the photo at the sign?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 05, 2010, 05:36:47 PM
Distant Relatives, no one too close (not close enough to remember anything other than great aunt... or great uncle...) :) 2 photos that I would never sell though, they show a part of the park that is not like that anymore. I hope you all have enjoyed them as much as I have-I believe they are from 1964.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Coaster on March 05, 2010, 10:12:37 PM
Wow, those are some great pictures. What great parking spots!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on March 06, 2010, 08:37:48 AM
Yeah, I tell you, one of the cool things I was able to do at the end of the 1981 season is drive around the park the day after it closed in my dad's pick-up truck picking up the "atmosphering" pieces scattered at the attractions around the park and putting them into storage for the winter at the train depot...which is now a gift shop. The pathways in the old part of town were narrow enough I had to go slow. Cardiac Hill was tough for the truck to make it up, just like for people. If you want to see some choice parking from days gone by, look at the 50th anniversary site at the photo taken from the air of the town square area...it was initially used as a parking lot.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: SteamFreak on March 08, 2010, 09:36:35 AM
I don't think the caboose pic was taken at SDC the huge brick building in the background looks nothing like anything at SDC one, I think this caboose is now sitting in the Branson yard just up from the Depot.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 08, 2010, 10:08:13 AM
As I have been able to deduce from the names and context clues, this was in fact a PR scheme to publicize SDC in, and around the area. What lot this was in is nothing that I will be able to deduce from the photo, but it is NOT @ SDC
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 08, 2010, 10:23:42 AM
Sticking with the train theme from a few posts ago -here is a track view of the old station
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/train-3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: SteamFreak on March 09, 2010, 07:54:33 AM
ANY pictures you have of this locomotive would be coveted by me, this is the origional engine 76 the davenport bought from Henry Ford. Pic's of it running are very, very rare.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 09, 2010, 09:09:02 AM
You are awesome Steam! To me it looks like a train, albeit a bit smaller than the ones that are used today, but pretty much the same -to me that is. I will see what I have I think I might have 1 MAYBE 2 more somewhere, but this is one of the clearest with no motion blurs etc.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: stlphotogal on March 09, 2010, 09:29:19 AM
Staying with the older items...
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/EarlyCathedralRoom.jpg)

I have a "now" version of this one (I took this in 2007)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2759/4419444205_8f01901104.jpg)

Must run in the family right Rube? :)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on March 09, 2010, 09:42:50 AM
Wow! love the pic of the old train coming into that old, old, depot. great shot. Looks like it was taken yesterday, except yesterday was probably 45 years ago!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 09, 2010, 11:48:17 AM
It must!

This train also belonged with the older photo of the couple next to the sign. It is from between 62-64 I believe (I'll double check on that tonight).

Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sdcforever on March 09, 2010, 12:15:36 PM
You are awesome Steam! To me it looks like a train, albeit a bit smaller than the ones that are used today, but pretty much the same -to me that is. I will see what I have I think I might have 1 MAYBE 2 more somewhere, but this is one of the clearest with no motion blurs etc.

It just looks like a slightly smaller version of the train to me as well.  Thanks for pointing out the significance of the photo, Steam! :)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 10, 2010, 08:10:24 AM
This is the one we are looking for right?
This is a mini-p/c folder from the mid-late 60's

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/minipostcardfolder2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: SteamFreak on March 10, 2010, 08:40:53 AM
Yep, that's the one! I've been in the cab of this engine, it's in storage right now....it's sooooo tiny...would have been a challenge to drive.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: mhguy77 on April 11, 2010, 09:56:26 PM
Am I crazy or did they move teh holdup location on the train.  It seems to me that it was in another location a few years back.
I do wonder what will come of the train ride in years to come as it is being swallowed by the town
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on April 11, 2010, 10:13:09 PM
Am I crazy or did they move teh holdup location on the train.  It seems to me that it was in another location a few years back.
I do wonder what will come of the train ride in years to come as it is being swallowed by the town

It has been a few of years since I visited Silver Dollar City, however, it seems like someone mentioned the reason the hold up location was moved was because you could see the Giant Swing from the original location which spoiled the skit.

Although I am sure someone will gladly correct me if I am wrong.  :)

Speaking of trains, I absolutely love the historic pictures of the original Silver Dollar City Frisco Train! Thank you so much for sharing this treasures with us.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: mhguy77 on April 13, 2010, 08:52:44 AM
What about this....
My brothers Mother in Law was an antique dealer adn had this on her shop wall.
I made comment as they know I love going to SDC and before she passed she gave this to me.
I do notice it has no mention on SDC although there is no date.
It is a 3D releif on the cave with the train and stlagtites being 3D.

THis is about 7 inches acress maybe 5 down.
It reminds me of her and it may be a common thing but I really like it.
Anyone know anything about these?

Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: mhguy77 on April 13, 2010, 08:55:25 AM
What about this....
My brothers Mother in Law was an antique dealer adn had this on her shop wall.
I made comment as they know I love going to SDC and before she passed she gave this to me.
I do notice it has no mention on SDC although there is no date.
It is a 3D releif on the cave with the train and stlagtites being 3D.

THis is about 7 inches acress maybe 5 down.
It reminds me of her and it may be a common thing but I really like it.
Anyone know anything about these?


Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on April 13, 2010, 10:59:34 AM
This appears to be a Lugenes wall plaque from the mid-late 60's. The Cave train was opened on May 11, 1958 so we know it is after that date, and in 1968 They first charged admission to the park. I say this last part because Many items before 1968 say Silver Dollar City in Marvel Cave Park but most of the cave items simply say Marvel Cave. I have a plate similar to this by Lugenes and with a search on Google you can find many ceramic, and resin plates and hangings referring to Missouri, Ozarks, and SDC/Marvel Cave (along with many other things not Ozarkian!). Just my opinion though.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on April 13, 2010, 11:04:16 AM
Ohh By The Way... I believe the plaque is misleading in that the cave is not America's Third Largest, but Marvel Cave boasts it has the 3rd largest entrance room in North America, 5th in the world. It is the deepest cave in Missouri at 505 ft. No small feat, however I think the hanging i misleading FWIW (For What It's Worth).
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on April 13, 2010, 11:45:49 AM
Here is one of my tickets from back when the Train cost an additional fee to ride. This is not too old (about 40 yrs.), from around 1970, but in great condition for its use. Not a huge amount of these are out there  in this condition since most people would use them for their purpose, and  stuff them into a pocket, or throw them out. These are not small, they are 12 " long without the 2" ticket portion that was removed from the bottom=14 " total. (This one is even more rare since the buyer never took thier ride.)
                                            -From the ticket-
"This ticket entitles bearer to ride from issuing Silver Dollar City and guarantees him return passage to the issuing depot (Indian attacks void this guarantee)"Enjoy!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Trainticket.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on April 13, 2010, 12:19:40 PM
Wow, what a magnificent, and rare artifact you have there! I love all of the tidbits, and old fashioned rules that are listed on the ticket. Is that the 1970ís way of saying donít sue us?  :P

Could you imagine the expression of the conductors face if you were to hand him this ticket these days?  :D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on April 13, 2010, 12:51:59 PM
A running joke I had once was that I would bring my admission coupon for $1.00 to the front gate to try and gain entry with that! If it were SteamFreak, he would take the ticket andrun with it!-that is if he already doesn't have one.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: SteamFreak on April 14, 2010, 07:20:12 AM
I don't, so you're right I would run and frame it. haha
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on April 14, 2010, 08:04:19 AM
You do not have one AT ALL? or you simply do not have one in general steam?

Speaking of trains...Here is my 18x24" tintype (on tin) of the train. Auction buy so I am unsure of when/where it came from.

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/FriscoTinTypecopy.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on April 15, 2010, 01:40:11 PM
A very washed out leak on the Diving Bell.....Circa Early 1980's
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/interior2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on April 15, 2010, 05:07:49 PM
JUNIOR SAYS: "Hey, Uncle Rube, I think we sprang a leak!" Photo from 1984, last season of the diving bell. I cannot be for sure since I cannot see Juniors face, but I think that may be my ole buddy, Hap Prater, trying to save the ship. (He didn't, moments later the diving bell got stuck on a ledge, and all 75 passengers scurried out, thankful to be alive!) Oh, by the way...no silver was recovered. Dang, it! 
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on April 16, 2010, 11:42:32 AM
A gem in my collection that I would like to share (If I haven't already...) Pre- SDC, Jan 6, 1958 mentioning the soon to be cable railway, and the expanded tours of Marvel Cave
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/form008.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sdcforever on April 16, 2010, 12:09:44 PM
^Holy cow, Rube!  You continue to amaze me! :o
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on April 16, 2010, 12:12:46 PM
Wow! That was signed by Mrs. Mary Herschend herself? That is a rare gem. She, and her sons really worked hard on Marvel Cave, and it' something I know they were really proud of.

It is amazing how many people pass right by the cave, when it was the cave that started it all.

Thank you for sharing! :)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Coaster on April 16, 2010, 08:39:29 PM
Wow, wow, WOW. I am completely jealous of your entire collection.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: KBCraig on April 17, 2010, 06:01:19 AM
That's where the "America's third largest" theme came from.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on April 17, 2010, 08:29:52 AM
Nice letter, Rube. Great find!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on April 19, 2010, 10:13:50 AM
THANK YOU THANK YOU....for my encore I present a bag (a really nice bag though!) This is Pre SDC as a paid admission as it says Marvel Cave Park. Marvel was the drawing factor for the crowds at this point not yet the city. Again like the train ticket, a bit rare  because face it who (other than me) would save a bag! Enjoy.

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/marvelcaveparkbag.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Hatfield McCoy on April 20, 2010, 11:37:46 AM
Wow!  That is great Rube.  I would definitely have that under glass or something.  Silver Dollar City maybe contacting you to build the "Rubedugans Museum."  Located just before you enter the cave.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on April 20, 2010, 12:23:54 PM
Thanks. It is in a box. about 1/2 way down below all the other coveted items. All behind doors, and gates like the introduction scene to the TV show Get Smart.  Eventually they will all be in the collection publication....hopefully sooner than later I will get it all finished...
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: ghosthost on April 21, 2010, 09:43:14 PM
I remember when I was 5 or 6 playing marbles with Tom and Huck finn in the main street area........God Im OLD!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on April 22, 2010, 10:36:02 AM
Anyone want to ride the Flooded ? Well I will need to see your Inspection Permit....What you don't have one? Good thing you're with me, In case they check us, I have it covered ...LETS GO!!!!
Yes, this is also from the same time (1971') that tickets were needed to gain entrance to various rides in the park. I also have a Jim Owen's Float Trip ticket just like this one to be posted at a later date.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/photos017copy4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on April 22, 2010, 11:26:12 AM
My goodness rube! Your house must literally be a Silver Dollar City vault! :)


I am sure glad you are around to help. Otherwise none of us would be able to ride the Flooded Mine, Jim Owen's Float Trip, or the Frisco Train.  :P


Thanks for sharing more of your rare collection.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on April 22, 2010, 11:41:32 AM
Vault, pile, stack, etc. whatever you may want to call it....My wife calls it crap, but she understands my connection to it all. If there is a fire she knows she is on her own cause I am grabbing my stuff! Not Really calm down, I am proud of my "stuff" and at times it takes alot of room, but it is worth it.

Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on May 11, 2010, 01:47:53 PM
Firing up the machine, clearing out the cobwebs...off we go!!! Wait but what time is the feud? the train? the rainmaker, Stick with me I have a schedule. Hopefully things are the same, It has only been 30 or so years since this one was printed...Shoot it took us to SDC Tennessee instead blasted machine...-the tip off is that we have FITH not BLAZING FURY...AND our feud is on the square NOT by the saloon!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/DailySchedule.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on May 11, 2010, 02:18:19 PM
Blazing Fury came about in 1978...is that when this schedule for SDC, TN is from?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on May 11, 2010, 04:45:26 PM
It was never dated, however looking at the other items that were saved with this, I can say with almost 100% certainty that it is from 1979
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on May 18, 2010, 09:22:53 AM
I ain't got no pants no more!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/photos019copy2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on May 18, 2010, 10:04:28 AM
Open up that postcard folder, and show us a few shots of the park from the early 70s, Rube!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on May 24, 2010, 01:11:21 PM
Oops already entered my destination, I'll have to back it up and revisit the postcard folder....while I am here though I'll bring this one out, it might bring more details to this thread :
http://sdcfans.com/forums/index.php?topic=725.0 (http://sdcfans.com/forums/index.php?topic=725.0)

This p/c is from the early -mid 70s
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/shottower.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 11, 2010, 07:27:46 PM
December 16, 1974
My newest favorite stop on the Wayback Express....really I love this one so much!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/sdce007.jpg)
Okay not impressed, try the reverse...maybe that'll do it!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/sdce009.jpg)
"Dear Aunties
ON holiday in America traveling from East to West be car, and hope to sell the car in Los Angeles so we can afford a Christmas dinner (hamburger) on the beach, in the sunshine. Merry Christmas Love Richard"

Priceless-I bought it sight unseen from the United Kingdom...JACKPOT!!!!
Stay tuned for our next destination I hope to make it as good as this journey.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on June 11, 2010, 07:38:44 PM
Pretty cool, Rube! Have never seen this postcard before. Old jailhouse with "Marshall Hooker" sign, and looks like a blocked off pathway this side of the mill...I think at one time in the early to mid 60's there was a building there that burned down. I cannot remember what was in it...might have been the early print shop.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 11, 2010, 07:42:24 PM
Neither had I which is why I bought it, and got a two-fer=two neat items in one
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 11, 2010, 10:09:23 PM
I guess I wasted $2 by not spending this...Sometime I'll use the machine to go back and spend this in 1992
front
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/sdce003.jpg)
reverse
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/sdce002.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: mhguy77 on June 11, 2010, 10:38:11 PM
Intertesting that I find no mention of a flooded mine in the Dollywood history ( maybe I am missing it)
Why is it in the schedule?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on June 11, 2010, 11:55:43 PM
I remember when they tried this "Disney Bucks" idea.  My family never considered it, since we could just as easily use American dollars to make our purchases.

Does it say it had to be spent in '92?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 11, 2010, 11:57:58 PM
The ride through the Flooded Mine -dark ride @ DW was demolished in Oct 1997, It was the same premise as SDC Flooded Mine, it wasdded to the park in 1977 as part of the Craftmen's Valley expansion (the same year SDC bought the park). The ride was closed and demolished in October of 1997 to make room for Daredevil Falls. A few of the animatronics and props were relocated into Blazing Fury (DW's version of Fire in the Hole).

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/mine1.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/mine.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 12, 2010, 06:26:40 PM
Destination.....1950s Ozark family trip. No SDC is not showcased in the photos, but SOTH , Ike's Post Office and Fairy Cave are though!!!

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/sdce011-3.jpg)

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/sdce011-2.jpg)

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/sdce011-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on June 13, 2010, 07:57:37 AM
Great shots, Rube! Really enjoyed the Fairy Cave building. Never have seen that one before.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: betamike on June 13, 2010, 09:14:24 AM
Intertesting that I find no mention of a flooded mine in the Dollywood history ( maybe I am missing it)
Why is it in the schedule?

I remember riding Silver Dollar City's (Dollywood) Flooded Mine back in the 80's about the time SDC went to the shooting concept, which I personally didn't like even then.  Dollywood's had a few different things that made it stand out, in particular, an entire room, or set, that moved back and forth as if it were about to collapse.  Very cool stuff.  You can see it here on a portion of the large pull out map that I got as a souvenir at that time.  The full size is on my Flickr page.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skinnytie/4485413099/in/set-72157601729928940/
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 13, 2010, 11:22:23 AM
Thanks for the map BetaMike. That helps explain fully the former location of the ride.

Since were already in the 50's I thought we'd stay a few more days....
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/sdce006.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on June 13, 2010, 04:51:11 PM
I'm not positive on this...but I think that the cabin in this shot may be what was called "Shad's" cabin, and this may be the back end of the Grand Exposition area. I could be wrong, though. Love the picture, though. You'll see that "Old West" thing going here with the covered wagon.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 13, 2010, 08:57:11 PM
I am unsure if it is the same cabin/ area... I know the nursing station/ Shad's cabin only utilizes the Fireplace/ rock work, it is a replica of one built feet from the spot that Lloyd and Molly made their home.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 13, 2010, 10:56:13 PM
Gasoline cost $0.10, bread $0.08, and FDR was in office.
Destination is set for 1935....Lets go on a cave tour guys!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/sdce013.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Copper on June 14, 2010, 12:20:18 AM
Was the DW Flooded Mine a float through or a train such as FITH & BF?  The boat that the family is sitting in looks different than SDCís FM. 

Also the Fairy Cave building is still standing; it is just inside of the Talking Rocks building.  The tours still start on that porch.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Zephon on June 14, 2010, 12:38:13 AM
You could be right about the location of that cabin, Junior.  It kinda looks like Shad's old place, but the color was red later on.  Security had their offices there for a long time.  You all might remember that 76 hiway used to run right through where the Red Gold sits now.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on June 14, 2010, 08:06:46 AM
Yeah, I remember when the timeclock and security office was at Shad's. I was surprised to see how they developed that area in the last 15 years!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Andymeets1880s on June 22, 2010, 12:29:24 AM
THIS thread was a jawdropper! I am sitting here at 12:28am just fixed on the screen and thoroughly enjoying this history trip! Great, great thread!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 22, 2010, 12:57:04 PM
Glad you all are enjoying my collection....more to come! Stay tuned!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on June 22, 2010, 04:35:37 PM
Yeah Rube, keep it coming...I seldom get blown away by anything anymore...but the really old stuff you post are things I never have seen, or sometimes, have even heard about before. So I really like it when you can floor me with something new. I love it, dig deep and be generous with us!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 22, 2010, 05:47:42 PM
Being the 50th anniversary, Wayback machine set for 1960-
This is my Family Tree souvenir SDC Frame. This is from the 1960 season, and one cool thing about it is that it still has the "stock photos" in the frame. So someone bought a small cedar family tree, and never used it! What is funny is that the bottom 4 photos as you can see-fit together in one way or another like a puzzle.

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/FamilyTreeFrame.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on June 23, 2010, 07:45:28 AM
All that cedar stuff, and most of the hillbilly themed stuff was being slowly phased out and was available on clearance racks in the Ozark Marketplace toward the end of my time at SDC (mid 80s) You don't see much of it in the flea markets or on ebay anymore, either. It's great to take a look back at things like that. My grandparents had a cedar matchstick holder from SDC that graced the wall of their kitchen for decades.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on June 23, 2010, 10:25:58 AM
I think you can still get it at the woodcarvers.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 23, 2010, 11:37:25 PM
Wayback Machine set for 1960's
Did you forget to sign your Season Pass? Good thing I am here with a pen

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/SDCPen-1970s.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 23, 2010, 11:43:14 PM
Wayback Machine set for 1968
Man it is gettin' hot out, good thing I picked up this collapsible souvenir fan!
Showcased are The Wilderness Church, the train, Sullivan's Mill, the General Store , The Hotel, The Swinging Bridge, Lucky Silver Mine, and The Floodeed Mine
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/photos030.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on June 24, 2010, 11:06:32 AM
Ah, the swingin' '60s! Mighty fancy pen and fan, huh? Thanks for the photos.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 24, 2010, 11:18:33 PM
Wayback Machine set for It is 14,270 days ago.....
Or 39 years, 25 days ago
(May 31, 1971)
My ticket from Jim Owens Float Trip...
Thankfully the trip went alright, and we stayed dry from the water splash and stream!
Enjoy the coveted ephemera-Once again paper items were some of the first to go after the visit was over, I have only come across a few of these in my collecting days. Thanfully I got this one by accident.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/photos017copy3.jpg)
It was in a scrapbook I bought for the Disney postcards (I know it is a 4 letter word here)  in a scrapbook. It was full of Six flags StL California, Arkansas, and MO maps, ephemera, ticket stubs etc. Best of all the original owners made a stop at SDC on May 31, 1971, which included the cave tour, 3 brochures, a corn shuck doll insruction, reciepts for all purchases, hotel receipts, bald knobber tickets and brochures, COTO newspapers....FULL OF STUFF!!!!!!

Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on June 25, 2010, 09:12:39 AM
AH...you gotta post all that stuff...love the float trip ticket, again, never have seen that before. Here is something you can look for if you don't have it,  Rube: On the first day the float trip was open, the park issued certificates that were suitable for framing that had a blank for your name, and said that you were among the first to ride the float trip. I have seen only one in my life, and I tried to buy it on the spot. The owners would not part with it.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 25, 2010, 10:21:00 AM
I knew of the certificates, and never have seen one in person. At least now I know what I need to ask Santa for at Christmas time!

These tickets were used the same way that the previously posted tickets were for entry into the Flooded Mine, The Train etc. Great to have seeing that the ride does not exist in present day!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: betamike on June 26, 2010, 03:44:17 PM
This one comes from one of my trips as a kid back in the early 80's possibly?  It's a nice tin box that is themed to the famous "newsprint" bags that we all know and appreciate.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on June 26, 2010, 04:07:04 PM
That's nice, too. Ya know, I might have some of those old paper bags in a box in a closet somewhere.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 26, 2010, 10:42:41 PM
That's awesome I have a few of the old bags, as well as a few of the new ones, and even a marvel cave park bag, but nothing that is "bag themed". I have not seen those before, but if I did I would snatch it up right away!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 03, 2010, 01:26:47 AM
Wayback year set for mid 1960's SDC/ Marvel cave Park

I have several of these laying around. I am unsure of exactly when they were used...
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/WildernessChurchProgram.jpg)

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/WildernessChurchProgram-Back.jpg)

Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on July 03, 2010, 08:49:42 AM
Looks like the card with the church photo is from the 60s. Probably was left at the entry and was a freebie visitors could pick up at the door as they left the church. Interesting to see the guy working away at making the big pulpit in front of the church. That would have to be an early photo from spring of 1960 I guess. Cannot remember the name of the "citizen" who built the pulpit. It may be listed on a sign inside the church today, as I know it was there at some time in the past.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: marolinesdad on July 03, 2010, 02:29:15 PM
Do you have much from the Lynch sisters time?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 03, 2010, 09:40:45 PM
I have 2 or 3 items from their time period at the cave, a brochure, and a few post cards....But I am always looking for more!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 03, 2010, 09:45:01 PM
Wayback machine set for early 1960's
Hand painting souvenir tray still in box.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/SouvenirTray.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: marolinesdad on July 04, 2010, 06:59:52 AM
Love the tray...   
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 09, 2010, 10:41:40 PM
Wayback machine set for the Lynch sister Days...
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/MarvelCaveBrochure-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on July 10, 2010, 12:53:23 AM
Here is a world of glamour and romance?  Ah, Ok. Pretty cool piece, though. Ya got me again, never seen this one! You're gonna have to tell us how much each piece cost you on Ebay. My guess is, since most people don't know what something like this is, your getting it fairly cheap...probably under $15 to $20 bucks. Ah, come on, give us a hint...
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 10, 2010, 11:00:20 AM
Mine was less that $10. One online went to someone (probably someone on here!) for around $20 recently
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Pintrader on July 17, 2010, 12:17:25 PM
This is my first post of a picture.  I hope it turns out ok!
This is a group cave photo circa 1964-1965.  I am the little guy in the front row staring at my brother and not looking at the camera.  Fact is I am the only person in the photo not looking at the camera (Imagine that).  My parents are on the top row 4th and 5th from the right.  Sad thing is I remember nothing of this day.     

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/tomncyndi/Flatbed.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Coaster on July 17, 2010, 05:32:17 PM
^I love the old cave group pictures!!! I really wish they still did that.

What does America's 3rd largest mean? 3rd largest cave?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on July 17, 2010, 05:40:12 PM
More likely 3rd largest show cave.  Let's see, there's Mammoth, Carlsbad...
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Coaster on July 17, 2010, 05:41:06 PM
^Yeah, that's why I'm confused. I know Marvel isn't close to being the third largest.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on July 17, 2010, 09:20:14 PM
SDC billed Marvel Cave as America's Third Largest for years. During the period I worked there (78-84) I remember we got a weekly company newsletter that said they were dropping the claim...and said it was just too detailed to get into as to why. My guess is, somebody in the know called them on it, so they just dropped it rather than get into a big hassle over it. It was pretty common for roadside attractions (Which Marvel Cave and SDC was in the early days) in the 50s and 60s to claim to be the largest, and so on, and perhaps time had passed on this issue, and they dropped it.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: betamike on July 17, 2010, 09:26:43 PM
I could see that.  The cave business in the Ozarks during that time was sort of like the lawless old west with people staking claims all the time.  Of course, they probably were backing the fact that much of Marvel Cave is technically still undiscovered and therefore is purportedly still a very large cave.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 17, 2010, 09:51:39 PM
I cleared this up on another thread, but Marvel Cave boasts it has the 3rd largest entrance room in North America, 5th in the world. It is the deepest cave in Missouri at 505 ft.

Kinda like when I would tell my girlfriend in high school I was going by the library...I did go by the library... but I was only driving by it on my way to the movie theater with my buddies!!! It wasn't necessarily a lie, but it was only a half truth in that it didn't specify what part was large about it.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: betamike on July 18, 2010, 04:03:57 PM
This was a great eBay find a few years ago and I had it stashed away so it wouldn't become threadbare.  I wish they had more retro shirts like this at the City now-a-days

Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 18, 2010, 04:44:49 PM
A few weeks ago I took a trip to Branson, with my 1963 Polaroid Land Camera and my Polaroid 1969 Colorpack II. Not quite Wayback, but hey it's my thread I will do what I want! The photos have the vintage feel since I used the same Polaroid Peel apart film produced by Fuji. Same process as the old ones, shoot, pull out of camera, wait specified time for the outside temp, peel apart negative and photo.WA-LA!

Old Matt's Cabin-SOTH
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/mattscabin.jpg)

Molly's Mill-SDC
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/mill-1.jpg)

Hotel-SDC
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/hotel-1.jpg)

I also have the train, the waterfall, the jail, the Wilderness Church, and a few others...
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: betamike on July 18, 2010, 05:03:12 PM
That's awesome!  I'd love to have some functional old polaroid cameras like that.  The iPhone has an app that works AMAZINGLY as well to create a pretty close effect.  I'll have to try that when I go in August.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on July 18, 2010, 05:29:11 PM
I have always been a photography buff. I love the results you get with the old equipment. I'm actually very surprised you can purchase film for them. I had Kodak camera from the 70s that took film cartridges. Then I had a 35mm. I gave up on 'em in the last few years, and just went cheapo and used the disposable cameras...usually with marginal results. I recently purchased a Kodak Easyshare digital camera with 12 megapixels, and even though it is a very basic camera with only 3x zoom, it gets great results. I'm new to taking a memory card and plugging it into the computer, but I love the red eye feature, and the cropping abilities. It's very simple for an old school guy like me to operate/understand. I've even entered a photo contest recently...Arkansas Democrat Gazette is sponsoring a "Capture Arkansas" contest, and they will produce a book and a cd of all pictures submitted that fit their guidelines. I hope a few of my pictures will make the book, but as I have learned, there are many great photographers out there, and they apparently have bought these cameras that cost $1,000 to $2,000 that do all sorts of tricks and make fab pictures that look like pros took em.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on July 18, 2010, 08:53:32 PM
Fuji makes the pack film with 10 photos in each for about $10
FP 100C=Color
FP 100B=B/W
Cameras can run anywhere from $0.99 (the price I spent on my Colorpack II that I took those photos with)-$50 for the cadillac of cameras.

I have never spent more than $10.00 on a camera. Most of my cameras came from family/friends as gifts, or just to get rid of them. I try to use all the ones that I can, The others I am still trying to find cost effective ways to convert the large format camera to something more cost effective although 35mm is beginning to become pricey due to its scarcity.

Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on August 31, 2010, 08:37:39 AM
With my busy summer off from school, I didn't have much time to take you all on a journey back to simpler times. hopefully I will be able to get some time to show you all some of the things I was able to pick up this summer...On to Sept. 29, 1990 to when toys were made out of wood...WOOD I TELL YOU ...BELIEVE IT!!!!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/ToyStore-1.jpg)
"An endless variety of colorful wooden toys are churned out every day at Ezra's Toy Factory...where kids and adults share in the fun and games of yester-year."
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on August 31, 2010, 08:59:10 AM
Toys made out of wood? But, but where do I stick the batteries?  ???

Actually when I was a child I had a wooden train. Each car was roughly ten inches long, and there were about seven cars total. Ah, the memories when I would wrap that train from the hallway, and into the living room. ;D

Children have much more vivid imaginations then most electronic toy companies give them credit for these days.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on August 31, 2010, 10:35:58 AM
So true...As a teacher, we have a blast on our no technology day when I have kids give up all modern luxuries, and they seem to have no issues...But then again when I was a kid I had a walkman, and an Atari! .BTW many ask these things, this postcard cost me $1.00. which is the same as the store price when offered in the General Store 20 yrs ago!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on August 31, 2010, 11:52:08 AM
BTW many ask these things, this postcard cost me $1.00. which is the same as the store price when offered in the General Store 20 yrs ago!

Really? That's interesting! One would imagine that the price would have gone up (because it is an antique), or down (because it is old). Either way that was a dollar well spent in my opinion!  :)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on August 31, 2010, 12:19:00 PM
One would assume the price would go up with age, and traditionally that is true, however the quality is also a factor. Another large factor in postcard value is the fact if it is postally used or not. This one is used, and many collectors do not like that. I prefer the used p/c's since they literally tell stories, and are more of a snapshot as to the spirit, and feel of SDC. Kind of like the reverse on this p/c of Ezra's Toy Store!

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/ToyStorereverse.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on August 31, 2010, 05:31:26 PM
Thanks, Rube, for this glance back at the toy shop! I remember it well. Kids loved the place. It shows not everything need be high tech. Simple things can be fun, too.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 01, 2010, 10:22:16 AM
A very coveted item of mine, that has been reproduced several times, however I have the original copy...

ARE YOU READY??? okay, Wayback Machine set to Feb, 28 1907-Marvel Cave (though it was not called that at the time) in the Register Room (you all know which one that is right???)  "My name is carved on this large rock ~Frank" is written in at the bottom. We see the Sphinx nose, which is still a prominent feature, haven't looked for it, but maybe Frank's name is still there. I know they went in and cleared a bunch out of the register room, but you can still see some remnants of old carvings on the walls in some spots.

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/scan-1.jpg)

Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on September 01, 2010, 03:42:30 PM
Another great find! 1907...whew!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on September 01, 2010, 11:06:18 PM
Wow, that is very interesting! If someone has the chance to examine that rock, I would love to know if Frank's name is still there somewhere.

Very cool find!  ;D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 02, 2010, 08:32:02 AM
On a lantern tour we were able to spend some time in a less crowded setting and find a few carvings, nothing too deep because, again, during renovations the walls were cleaned/ and more than likely sanded to remove some of the graffiti and have a more pleasing and natural looking cave.Also. seeing the names more than likely would cause a tourist in the modern day to begin carving into the walls of the room as well. I guess the best way to avoid new graffiti is to remove the old stuff even if it is historical.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on September 02, 2010, 09:14:31 AM
I've visited some of the show caves in Arkansas, and many of them have "tags" on the walls. War Eagle Cave near Rogers had several. The current owners even put a "War Eagle Cave" logo into one wall...looks like a professional, probably a guy who makes monuments or headstones, came in and carved the logo. I'm glad not too much of that stuff is visible on the Marvel Cave tour. The natural beauty of the cave is enough for me.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 02, 2010, 12:21:19 PM
I am not sure about any of those, but I know the only graffiti I am okay with are the Pictographs and Petroglyphs left by early inhabitants of our region. I have not been to it, but I have seen photos of several areas around Petit Jean State Park in N/W ARK. have painted glyphs. The only ones I have seen  in person were at Thousand Hills State Park in Kirksville MO (N/E MO) when my wife attended school up there. It does bring up the question as a history teacher, are these art or grafitti? (BTW-I think they are both).
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on September 02, 2010, 01:00:32 PM
It's very interesting to consider the balance between what is considered art, or graffiti. If someone were to paint a drawing on the cave walls today, that would most certainly be considered graffiti. However, if someone painted the same drawing on the cave walls say a hundred years ago, it would be considered art, and historic.

A balancing act it is indeed! :D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: betamike on September 02, 2010, 08:04:21 PM
Such has been the argument of Art Historians for ages!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 03, 2010, 09:29:44 AM
Wayback set for sometime in 1951...not really sure when!

The Entrance to Marvel Cave

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/scancopy-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on September 03, 2010, 11:55:43 AM
Yet another great photo!

Perhaps my eyes are playing games with me, but what is that exactly at the bottom of the picture that has a tent, or pyramid shape? Is it just a mound of dirt, or what? :o :P
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on September 03, 2010, 12:18:48 PM
Not sure myself but it looks like an uncompleted wooden roof, perhaps covering the wooden tower that was there before the steel tower was put up by the Herschends. Anybody in the know about that?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 03, 2010, 12:39:57 PM
It is simply a covering over the walkway leading into the cave entrance. Similar to what is there now while walking down the steps after you get your photograph taken. Several p/c's are out there of a non-covered walkway, but this is the first that I have found with the entrance platform/path with a "roof" over it.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 07, 2010, 07:38:23 PM
Wayback to 1965. Rare Postcard that not only shows Old Matt's cabin, but it has a decorative "Ozark" themed border illustrated to show various area activities. I am not sure what the high rise buildings represent!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/scan010.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: betamike on September 07, 2010, 07:50:55 PM
It must represent one of those high-class concrete jungles those "city dwellers" are all yappin' about!  :P

Oh my....and is that....a guy sneaking up on a deer with a RIFLE!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Zephon on September 07, 2010, 09:04:42 PM
How old can that postcard be?  It has a representation of the Branson Belle in the lower right corner. ;)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on September 07, 2010, 11:09:32 PM
I am not sure what the donkey is looking at, but he sure looks happy, and excited about something! ;D

Another classic gem from the endless collection of rube. Thanks!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 08, 2010, 08:33:09 AM
I wish they still made postcards like this! Notice the lady water skiing IS sporting a bikini, however it isn't one of them new-fangled skimpy kinda garments. Something is lost to the newer ones that don't have a donkey OR a hunter in them. It just gives them a whole new feel...Here is a sample-made from the SOTH P/C I was envisioning....
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture19.jpg)
Now I know this is not real...but doesn't it give St. Louis Missouri that inviting warm feeling?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: KBCraig on September 11, 2010, 04:33:37 AM
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture19.jpg)
Now I know this is not real...but doesn't it give St. Louis Missouri that inviting warm feeling?

Looks more like ESL.  ;D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 11, 2010, 04:01:34 PM
Amazingly enough you are right! but it is only a mile or so from StL so I thought it would count. I looked and looked for pics like this in my StL photos, couldn't find one even on a good search engine...ESL gave the right image I was envisioning (sorry ILLINOIS!)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 14, 2010, 08:45:05 AM
SO were stuck in 1951...Might as well make the best of it right?

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/scan009copy4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on September 14, 2010, 09:54:42 AM
1951 is as good of a years as any! :)

The Liberty Bell looks dazzling in that picture. This is also a good illustration of the wooden handrails. Rube, where do you find this stuff? I have never seen such an endless collection!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Pintrader on September 14, 2010, 10:38:30 AM
It sure does look great!  And if I remember my cave tour information correctly, it grows 1 inch per 100 years.  You know it does look a little shorter in that picture.  I mean it is a half inch taller today  :).
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on September 14, 2010, 04:54:33 PM
Intersting to see how the tour paths have changed over the years. that old path going down has not been used in decades.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Copper on September 14, 2010, 09:54:08 PM
In fact the stairs around the Liberty Bell donít even exist any longer.  This also predates the cable train, so people had to retrace their steps to get out.  Also, the roof on the old wooden tower in the 50s was a gable roof and the tower looked a lot like a fire tower.  Jack Herschend said towards the end of the towerís life it would move in circles as the tour would descend it, which would have created some interesting tours.  Nice photos!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: KBCraig on September 14, 2010, 10:23:00 PM
It sure does look great!  And if I remember my cave tour information correctly, it grows 1 inch per 100 years.  You know it does look a little shorter in that picture.  I mean it is a half inch taller today  :).

I think that's one cubic inch per century. Volume, not height.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 14, 2010, 10:50:46 PM
I believed that it was 1 cubic inch per 100 year as well...the equivalent to spreading one sugar cube over the whole bell evenly every 100 years. I also think it is pretty cool that it supposedly can hold 4-5 adults since it is hollow...
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 15, 2010, 07:13:21 PM
Alright there are a few issues, so we are stuck in 1951 still...soo here is a wider view of the liberty bell
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/scan009copy2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on September 15, 2010, 11:05:28 PM
Perhaps I am being a bit ignorant on camera technology in 1951, but the pictures of the Liberty Bell sure are crisp, and nicely lit up for such a dark cave nearly 60 years ago.  I suppose those cameras had a really bright flash on them.  :)

Thanks for another historic picture of our beloved cave!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: marolinesdad on September 16, 2010, 07:44:15 AM
Love the pics...   Hey Copper, now that you are in charge of the cave can you get the us into any places that are not on the regular tour. 
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Copper on September 16, 2010, 06:07:24 PM
I can get pictures!!! I have been back to the lakes several times and I have seen the waterfall room flood to the ceiling on several occasions. If you could go off trail where would you want to go?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 17, 2010, 11:33:22 AM
Anywhere not on a tour! I would want to see behind the tower, I think thy are the "dungeons", and being an adventurer, I would want to journey to see the lakes, as well as the flooded waterfall room.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 17, 2010, 12:42:30 PM
Shoot, The machine has started to go backwards...Now I am stuck in 1939. This is a souvenir photograph with the date "1939 M & G Lynch" in the dark area. This is also the same image that appeared in the post card from the same date showing the "Arrowhead" entrance to the Egyptian Room named as such from the "sandal" shape on the ceiling, as well as the Sphinx nose at the entrance (currently The Shoe Room)

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/scan009copy.jpg)
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Post by: okiebluegrass on September 17, 2010, 04:22:05 PM
Rube,

I'am newbie, but I've been hovering on here for the past couple weeks. Awesome pictures. Keep'em coming. Found some old postcards on ebay looking today. I'm thinking about starting a collection. My mom has a ton of the newpaper print bags over for washing machine. Mom grew up it Pittsburg,KS and has been going to SDC since before it was SDC.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on September 17, 2010, 11:09:09 PM
Along with collecting the older, and historic stuff okie, you could also start collecting current stuff too. Just think, in thirty, forty, or fifty years down the road when everyone is talking about the classic stuff from 2010!  :P
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Copper on September 19, 2010, 04:14:18 PM
The arrow head entry was also called the ďgenie.Ē  The guides back in the day would say, ďIf you can spot it on a tour without any help it will bring you good luck.Ē  I love the Genevieve and Miriam stories of the cave.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 20, 2010, 10:26:40 AM
I can see a genie in that! I am gonna look for that next time I need all the luck I can get.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 20, 2010, 10:27:48 AM
Oh bother....Now were going back even farther.....It is Marble Cave now, I am never gonna get back home, but atleast I am somewhere like SDC!

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/branso19.jpg)
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Post by: How-doFolks on September 20, 2010, 07:05:46 PM
Looks spooky..
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Post by: rubedugans on September 20, 2010, 08:31:09 PM
Kinda' like a Devil's Den huh?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on September 20, 2010, 11:17:58 PM
Kinda' like a Devil's Den huh?

Well now that you mentioned it! ;)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: okiebluegrass on September 22, 2010, 10:19:30 AM
There was a themed ride as described in the SDC book The littlest Mule about a wagon wheel on its side with seats on it pulled in a circle by a mule. I believe I remember I ride like that from when I was extremely young (like somewhere between 3 and 6 years old). Maybe the imagination of a little kid. Does anyone else remember that?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on September 22, 2010, 10:28:39 AM
Junior has told a story or two about that old ride! Here is the link to that thread, as well as my postcard of the "thrill" ride of the 1880's.

http://sdcfans.com/forums/index.php?topic=652.msg11961#msg11961 (http://sdcfans.com/forums/index.php?topic=652.msg11961#msg11961)

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/3127587650_2560b7c038_o.jpg)
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Post by: rubedugans on November 16, 2010, 11:18:13 AM
Sept 1967-the 8 yr old dam
Table Rock Dam was dedicated June 19, 1959
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture019.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on November 16, 2010, 12:42:35 PM
Nice addition rube!

That dam has stood almost as an icon of sorts of Table Rock Lake, and Branson in general. Could you imagine how many millions of gallons of water has flowed past this dam? It's a very inspiring man made object.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on November 16, 2010, 12:49:55 PM
I guess the caption should have read... "DAM!"
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: okiebluegrass on November 16, 2010, 01:08:37 PM
I took the kids to the SOTH hatchery over the summer. Every time anyone mentioned the word "dam" the response was "watch your mouth". Great memories with my teenage sons.

So.... in that vein

Rube, "Watch yer mouth"""  ;D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on November 16, 2010, 04:57:49 PM
Hard to believe that bluff across from the dam is now covered in trees and scrubby vegetation. That is the site of the little parking area to view the dam. Thanks for the shot, Rube.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: oldsdcer on November 29, 2010, 09:36:11 AM
remember when the hachery troughts were just gravel ditches?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 02, 2011, 09:05:35 PM
FUEL FOR MY MACHINE!!!!!
-over 500 family photos of SDC spanning from 1982-1998 (Thanks Dad!)
The winter should be a good time to fire up the wayback machine and experience some history of SDC!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_1774.jpg)

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Post by: How-doFolks on January 03, 2011, 05:30:06 AM
Sweet !!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 03, 2011, 08:07:24 AM
Oh, you are making my mouth water Rube! Hurry...get posting!  :)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 03, 2011, 09:40:07 AM
There are only a few exterior shots that show parts of the Diving Bell. You have seen all of the good ones already.Hopefully in an hour or so I will have the machine up and running back to 1982.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 03, 2011, 04:36:49 PM
1983
Startin' me early! I'd reenact this photo, but my wife, and HFEC might have some issues with that! Since I doubt this Saloon girl is still there , It'd be kind of akward to reenact by going into her present job almost 30 yrs later-wherever it is- and sit down on her lap...I'll pass on the reenactment for this one.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/saloon.jpg)

Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 03, 2011, 05:05:08 PM
Rube, I know for a fact that the Saloon girl is still at SDC!! She's in the Old Folks Home located behind the waterfall at the lumbercamp! (LOL! :D) Oh, I shouldn't joke. I  know you have got to feel old looking at the picture now. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 03, 2011, 05:19:48 PM
By my calculations this attractive 20 something would be a minimum of age 50 now!

This is Mom, me and StLPhotogal standing at the entrance to the park after leaving the Hospitality House. Love the lattice work arched entryway! If you look closely, you will see a few items-the large human powered spinning wheel, the large restaurant sign.
 
Different batch-this time 1986 (but if I do the math is right with the 24th crafts festival counting ahead from 1963 it would be 1987, I just don't think this was that late...)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/entrance-1.jpg)

Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on January 03, 2011, 06:58:39 PM
Wow, what an entrance! Silver Dollar City always did have a way of welcoming guest in a big way. Itís hard to imagine that I was sill in diapers in 1986, but it is good to know that Silver Dollar City still hasnít lost its true hospitality.

Thanks for sharing. :)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: How-doFolks on January 03, 2011, 09:40:58 PM
Wow, lots'a leg back in 1983 !! :o
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Pintrader on January 04, 2011, 09:57:05 AM
With that smile on your face Rube while sitting on that girl's lap, it sure looks like you are enjoying yourself too much even for SDC standards  :).
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 04, 2011, 12:56:18 PM
I was sure entertained wasn't I?

now back to 1982...outside the exit to the Flooded Mine Ride
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/icetruck1982.jpg)
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Post by: rubedugans on January 04, 2011, 12:58:58 PM
And on to my new favorite from this batch, maybe this whole box...also from 1982...
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/stagecoach1982.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 04, 2011, 05:06:23 PM
Good job on the last two shots, Rube! I remember when that Ice wagon was brought in and placed next to FM! They did a good job with that, and it was a good atmosphere piece to get a picture with family. (I was moonlighting at the FM at this time as a prisoner. That's when I was not doing my regular gig at the diving bell.) That stagecoach shot is good, too. I think about this time (82) the few remaining stagecoaches on park, maybe three or four, were either parked off park in storage or parked somewhere on park for photo ops only. I think the stagecoach ride was over by this time. I remember a stagecoach under an awning at the stage depot building. PLEASE KEEP OLD PHOTOS THEM COMING!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 04, 2011, 07:05:15 PM
Wayback set for 1984...maybe Betamike knows somebody in this one!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/candy-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Zephon on January 04, 2011, 10:37:39 PM
Great pictures, rube...as always.  The saloon gal's name is Sandy (last name withheld).  She was a good friend, a lot of fun, and that elbow could very well be mine, but I can't be sure.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on January 05, 2011, 12:55:51 AM
Yet more great additions from your endless bucket Rube! ;D

I was looking at the first picture of everyone playing in the stagecoach, and it made me wonder why Silver Dollar City doesn't have one now that allows people climb into it for photo opportunities?

The other picture in the Candy Shop is a classic. However, I often wonder just how many batches of peanut brittle have been made on that table over the decades? :)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 05, 2011, 09:49:33 AM
I hope, Zephon, Copper, or one of the other current "Citizens" can answer the question above about why SDC didn't keep on park at least one of the stagecoaches for photo ops. I know one is at College of the Ozarks at Ralph Foster Museum, but, it's just not the same.
'
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 05, 2011, 12:55:56 PM
I think I can find some photos for each of you...
This is the only Saloon shot from the interior that doesn't show only a dancing gurl (I guess pa really liked the costumes..or something!)
Well Zephon, lets see if you were working that day...
Either of these you?
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/saloonbar1985.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 05, 2011, 12:58:40 PM
Junior...I haven't forgotten you...
here is the Rube Dugans Playground 1982
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/boatplayground1982.jpg)
Lake Silver 1982-with a hint of the entrance queue
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/lakesilver1982.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 05, 2011, 01:14:33 PM
And if it is wagons that you want Ozark BBQ...how about a Paddy Wagon? I have a couple other carriages as well...
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/paddywagon1982.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: DollarCityBoy on January 05, 2011, 02:21:24 PM
Love the view of Lake Silver, with all the lush trees over the water. Never seen what the Diving Bell playground looked like before!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 05, 2011, 06:15:11 PM
One correction...the boat in the playground was originally, in 1980, located in Tom Sawyer's Landing. It was moved to the play area next to Lake Silver sometime between 82-84. The Rube Dugan's playground NEVER had the boat in it. The Dugan's playground had crawling tunnels, a slide, a little building at the top of the slide that kids could look out a window, and a wooden and net climbing obsticle. Also, in the 1977 and part of the 78 seasons, a water trough dividing the playground and the area where people lined up in front of the ride was used for the "panning for silver" activities, in which kids were given a little foil coated plastic medallion that had a picture on the back side of it of an open treasure chest and the words "Rube Dugan's Lost Treasure." Great to see all these old shots...bring back memories. Thanks, Rube!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 05, 2011, 07:33:58 PM
My mistake..I was 2! I stand corrected, I saw with the foliage, and the lakeside location that it was part of Rube's playground. PLENTY more to come!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on January 05, 2011, 11:10:37 PM
Don't stand corrected Rube, you can sit. ;)

You both blow me away with the knowledge you have about Silver Dollar City! Another great selection of photographs Rube. I especially like the patty wagon. ;D

It looks a lot bigger than Silver Dollar City's current patty wagon over by the Lumberjack Camp. Unfortunately, Silver Dollar City doesn't allow access into that wagon now either. Since when did Silver Dollar City become a look, and stare park, instead of an interactive park?  :P
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 06, 2011, 07:26:41 AM
The only reason I can think of regarding why you can't climb on the wagon is insurance liability. That apparently is the reason you don't see mules and horses pulling wagons on the streets anymore. Sad fact.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 06, 2011, 08:49:58 AM
I am unsure if the wagon is the wagon is the same one... Here is another view, from thinking abut the current one, I believe there is a seat in front, and the paint scheme is definately different
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/paddywagon21982.jpg)

Here's how they USED to solve the animal issues in the City!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_1812.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on January 06, 2011, 10:34:39 AM
Yeah, the patty wagon in your pictures is definitely not the same patty wagon they have now which is much smaller, and is all closed up unfortunately.

I love that last picture! The sign on the horse just makes me chuckle for some reason. ;D

Any idea who those two citizens are with the horse?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on January 06, 2011, 11:14:34 AM
tha picture is cute.... A lot of lost "kodak moments".. :-\
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 06, 2011, 02:06:10 PM
It's hard for me to tell (and remember) from the picture of the "don't touch" mule, but the guy with red suspenders might be named Noah Fredricks. He worked for a year or two with the city. I'm not 100 percent positive. Seems like Noah worked about 81 or 82 or 83. Did various street activities and was involved in entertainment if I remember.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Zephon on January 06, 2011, 09:24:46 PM
Nope, not Noah.  I remember the guy but can't call his name.  And...I could be way off base, but that might be me standing behind Sarie Ellen.  When I was the Marshal, I wore a hat and blue shirt just like that.  BTW, that's the rainmaker wagon that the mule is hitched to. 

And no, rube, neither of those guys is me.  I think that picture is from after my time in the Saloon.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 06, 2011, 09:34:27 PM
Zephon, since  you remember Noah, can you remember what years he worked there and what specific jobs he did? I seem to recall Noah and a partner had a big mobile "freak show" van that allegedly held the remains of "Bigfoot." They would take the van and park it in front of Wal-Marts during that time period of the mid-late '80's and charge an admission for people to tour it. Seems like that Noah stopped in Kennett, MO at the Wal-Mart there in that period of time. If I recall, Noah also worked at Shepherd of the Hills in the play. My memory is fuzzy about him, though.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 06, 2011, 09:46:27 PM
I have many views of the park in the 80's (hundreds), are there any requests for our next stop, I'd be happy to oblige if I can! No need to just have me lead this trip., Speak up, and I'll see if I got one!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 07, 2011, 05:51:57 AM
I'd love to see those spots where I used to work. Vineyard Restaurant on Main Street, Jim Owens' Float Trip Ride, Flooded Mine, One Mule Swing, Diving Bell. More shots of the remote controlled boats in Lake Silver, the kids playground adjacent to the lake, and the Paid Games area of 1980-1983. Also shots of the River Rat Rowdies Ragtime Show at the Dockside Theater, Courthouse Theater. That should keep you busy for a while. More later!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 07, 2011, 11:08:34 AM
Alright I will look for a few days on some of those, I know I have a few...you have seen several of them, but I can post some for others enjoyment. Any othe requests are welcomed!

While we are waiting we will look at Lake Silver the first year that Lost River was in place, notice the slight differences on the queue.

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/lostriver1985.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 07, 2011, 11:10:44 AM
Oh By The Way it was 1985...
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/logo1985.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: DollarCityBoy on January 07, 2011, 11:14:15 AM
Where is that picture being taken from? (the one of Lake Silver)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 07, 2011, 11:20:28 AM
Choo choo. About A-5 on the current SDC map
http://hfeimages.aristotle.net/General/SDC%20Map1221.pdf (http://hfeimages.aristotle.net/General/SDC%20Map1221.pdf)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on January 07, 2011, 11:26:38 AM
love them.  keep them coming when u have time rube.  thanks\
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 07, 2011, 11:28:38 AM
Well I've got time right now!!!
Still the old paddy wagon...either we got bigger...or the window got smaller! It was a difference of 5 yrs between the 2 photos!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/paddywagon1982.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_1818.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Andymeets1880s on January 07, 2011, 11:31:58 AM
I'm with Junior regarding the Float Trip. I would love to see some of the different things you passed as you went through it. That is...if you have such pics.

Also, maybe some shots of the FM interior.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 07, 2011, 11:57:41 AM
Since I have a few handy I will pull some of the Float up today.
Here is a version of the float trip...after the waterfall... that I have also another of the same angle from 1982...I will find that one and post it next.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/floattrip-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Andymeets1880s on January 07, 2011, 12:00:33 PM
^^^ That's a great one, Rube! That's what I'm talkin' about!
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Post by: rubedugans on January 07, 2011, 12:01:47 PM
FOUND IT!!! Thought it would take longer than that! All of the rocks/ water features are the same, and the track even extends across the path...it is just a bit overgrown.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/FloatTrip1982.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Andymeets1880s on January 07, 2011, 12:07:40 PM
Shots like that make you remember why SDC is such a calm and relaxing place! Heck, SDC could make a yearly calendar with just shots like that! They wouldnt need to throw in pictures of rides and places, just nature type scenery like that!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: okiebluegrass on January 07, 2011, 12:15:54 PM
SDCfans.com could sell the calendar and use the proceeds for site maintenance.

Probably some legal reason we couldn't, but it's a great idea IMHO
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 07, 2011, 12:59:01 PM
One more for this series...This might be a stretch, BUt I think I have this one correct...When the plunge was converted, some of the passages were altered. I believe this to be the same passage from the old ride-Today. I did an overlay, and the concrete/ rocks matched very well, and the tracks ran paralell. The water level would need to be raised in the present photo... Notice the tracks spanning across the gap, the rock shelf on the right, as well as the left...Different, yet some large similarities. Again I could be out on a limb, I could be way off!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/johnscabin260.jpg)(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/floattrip-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 07, 2011, 06:15:51 PM
About the float trip shots...you are right...view from American Plunge recently is same section as the older shot of the float trip. When the old cave had to be replaced, they did it the cheap way without all the attention to detail the old ride had. If you have some pictures of the float trip scenes along the route I'd love to see them. Thanks for what you have posted...actually, maybe we should thank your dad for taking all those shots long long ago when you were wearing diapers! (LOL)  ;D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on January 07, 2011, 07:21:42 PM
those are some great shots..  I like the comparison photos.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: DollarCityBoy on January 07, 2011, 07:49:56 PM
That really makes me sad, to see that beautiful waterfall, rocks, and foliage, just removed/covered up with wood.  :(
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Zephon on January 07, 2011, 11:07:49 PM
Zephon, since  you remember Noah, can you remember what years he worked there and what specific jobs he did? I seem to recall Noah and a partner had a big mobile "freak show" van that allegedly held the remains of "Bigfoot." They would take the van and park it in front of Wal-Marts during that time period of the mid-late '80's and charge an admission for people to tour it. Seems like that Noah stopped in Kennett, MO at the Wal-Mart there in that period of time. If I recall, Noah also worked at Shepherd of the Hills in the play. My memory is fuzzy about him, though.
Noah worked at the park in the early 80's for one, maybe two seasons.  He was in the Musical Feud show in the Courthouse Theater and also an atmosphere character.  And he did play Old Matt at the farm during that period as well as having a bit part in the miniseries "The Blue and the Gray".  I rode down to Fayetteville for it's premier with him and his wife, Sybil.  They were involved in some strange stuff, so the "freak show" van wouldn't surprise me.  He was a former mercenary, and supposedly had ties to the CSA, a Christian militia group prominent at the time.  He was a likable fellow, but kinda scary considering his past and what he was into.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 07, 2011, 11:33:19 PM
Zephon, BINGO! You nailed it. He was one of the most "unique" individuals to pass through SDC during my time there.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 07, 2011, 11:50:23 PM
I did a quick search and this is the first that came up on Noah...same guy?
" A backwoods preacher, Noah Fredericks, wrote a book titled, Pilgrim Ships, in which he claimed the people of the Old Testament came from outer space,etc etc etc..."(much more there if you would like to know more...search the name and the title)

That is a different perspective for sure! and not where I want to take the machine sooooo BACK TO THE PAST!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 07, 2011, 11:52:34 PM
Not much has changed in a little over 30 yrs! I haven't had a chance to search for others, these are what were already scanned!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/float.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Andymeets1880s on January 07, 2011, 11:58:37 PM
Man, Rube...you're just on fire today! Those are great pics!

Float trip...Float trip...Float trip! (Cheering!)  :D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on January 08, 2011, 12:58:50 AM
Rube, I get a kick out of pictures that were taken ten, twenty, or even thirty years ago, and yet nothing has changed. In fact, recently I was comparing your older picture of the Silver Dollar City jail to my own current photograph, and I was amazed to find that each brick is still exactly the same. :)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 08, 2011, 09:49:27 AM
Rube, don't know what it is you came up with regarding Noah...I knew him as Zephon remembered him. I know I saw him and a partner with a "bigfoot" truck at a Walmart somewhere...either Branson, Sikeston or Kennett Missouri in the mid to late 80s. Don't know what happened to him. If he was involved with the militant Christian group that Zephon says he was, and I really wouldn't doubt it...that place was located near Harrison, Arkansas in the early 80s and was surrounded with trenches and pillboxes, all set as if they were ready for the end of the world and they were going to war. Either the state or federal officials shut the place down and the property was sold off. Don't know what the heart of the sect was about, but it seems it was a cross between Christianity, Nazi ideas, and white power...which was "wack" to me even back then. Seems like some of the top officials of the group spent some time in prison, but it's been a few decades since I saw the news reports on TV.

---

Regarding the float trip mill picture, thanks! That's the way I remember it from the times I worked there.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Zephon on January 08, 2011, 10:19:27 AM
rube,
I don't know if it's the same Noah or not.  I wouldn't put it past him to write such a book.  I do know that he made a film called "Amazon Death Camps" (or something similar) years before he came to the City...I have seen that.

Junior,
The "tie" that I heard Noah had to the CSA was that he owned the land their camp was on, and I believe it was closer to the MO/AR border than Harrison.  Googling "The Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord" will yield a lot of information about what went down back then.  The "raid" was on Apr. 19, 1985.  On Apr. 15, four days earlier, Trooper Jimmy Linegar was killed by David Tate just south of Branson.  Tate also had ties to the CSA.  I remember that incident well because I lived just a few miles from where it occurred and had to go through road blocks on the way to and from work for several days.  It made national headlines for days.
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Post by: KBCraig on January 08, 2011, 01:28:44 PM
The CSA compound was near Elijah, MO, east of Lake Norfork.
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Post by: rubedugans on January 08, 2011, 04:44:04 PM
MOVIN' ALONG!!!! You can see the float trip at the right of the photo
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/floattripphoto2.jpg)
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Post by: Junior on January 08, 2011, 05:34:32 PM
Ahhhh, much more pleasant thing to discuss here...thanks for another great shot, Rube!
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Post by: Ozark Outlaw on January 08, 2011, 06:38:16 PM
Wow, I donít recognize this spot at all. I know it is nearby the current location of the American Plunge. What is in this spot today? :)
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Post by: rubedugans on January 08, 2011, 08:10:40 PM
It is from the area that now is outside of Heartland Home Furnishings-near where the apple butter shop used to be. It is also near the grandstand that goes over the water/ Log Flume. This image is a view that is a bit obstructed now. Just picture a big drop on the right of the photo for the American Plunge.
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Post by: rubedugans on January 08, 2011, 11:26:32 PM
Dockside Theater 1970's at its' former lakefront location
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/docksidetheater-1.jpg)
"River Rat_______ Ragtime _________"
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Post by: rubedugans on January 08, 2011, 11:32:06 PM
I posted and realized the sign was not too clear, here is a close up...
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/riverrat.jpg)
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Post by: Junior on January 09, 2011, 07:56:11 AM
The old Dockside theater...the way I remember it. Thanks Rube!
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Post by: Zephon on January 09, 2011, 12:40:01 PM
Version #2 of the Dockside Theater.  Version #1 had the stage on the near end, relative to that picture, and was covered.
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Post by: Ozark Outlaw on January 09, 2011, 01:04:10 PM
Wow, I just cannot believe how much Silver Dollar City has changed over the years. :o

I like the look, and feel of that theater much better than the current one. Although that one doesn't appear to have as much in the way of weather protection. :)
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Post by: rubedugans on January 09, 2011, 04:34:14 PM
WATCH OUT!!!!!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_1820.jpg)
I love seeing the pully that controls the outhouse!
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Post by: Junior on January 09, 2011, 05:15:03 PM
Steel bars behind the outhouse (which, I think was also metal) the entire concrete slab tilted! A "catalog" on a rope was hung from the door and the swinging action of the door and catalog really caught the attention of the boat riders.
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Post by: Junior on January 09, 2011, 05:16:45 PM
Also...if I remember right, there were really about four theaters on the site of the present dockside theater. two with tiny little stages, and split logs as benches, then original dockside theater, which was later expanded, and then the current theater.
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Post by: rubedugans on January 09, 2011, 05:19:02 PM
Yes I have a photo of that too!
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Post by: sanddunerider on January 09, 2011, 05:38:25 PM
love the float trip pic.. ;D            WATCH OUT!! :o :o :o :o
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Post by: Junior on January 10, 2011, 08:30:37 AM
When I worked at the float trip in late summer and in fall of 79, it was fun to be the early man in to work, as I had the job of cleaning the boats, then going out for the first ride of the day before anyone else got there. It was peaceful, riding along with my checklist, knowing I had the entire ride to myself. There really are no rides left on park like that, that only one person can run. It's too bad. We all love the American Plunge, I think it's too bad they can't reintroduce the float trip, using some of the old float trip channels, and running new channels around the rollercoaster and behind the plunge. It would take some work, but they could do it...maybe with a twist on the old theme and they could introduce that "Creature on the Creek" idea one of our members had (it was discussed on other threads.)
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Post by: rubedugans on January 10, 2011, 08:39:14 AM
I had another post composed about Welch's until I saw Junior had been waxing nostalgic about his time at the Float This one is for you Jr!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_1824.jpg)
Welch's Tomorrow!
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Post by: mhguy77 on January 10, 2011, 09:57:31 AM
Note the boats position in the old ride.  You can see the start of the whirlpool in the center of the bottom.
Notice the track or channel divider is low there so it looks like you " might" float into the swirl ( to certain death :) ) unlike the larger dividers of today.
I bet there were still diving boards at all the Branson motel pools at this time as well, this is before the lawyers got into the action  and made everything " safe".
The old days....

Having the Dockside theater with its back towards the lake sure is more picturesque isn't it.
They might have been able to cover it that way, looks like there is a lot more seating as well.
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Post by: Andymeets1880s on January 10, 2011, 11:08:14 AM
Hey Rube, these are EXACTLY the kind of photos I was hoping for of the Float Trip! I had memories of the outhouse and whirlpool. If I remember right, there was a hand in the middle of it at one point and you heard a man's girgling voice saying "Help Me" or "I'm drowning" or something to that nature. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Great shots, Rube!
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Post by: Ozark Outlaw on January 10, 2011, 11:26:35 AM
Both the sliding outhouse, and the whirlpool are great classic Silver Dollar City gags! Silver Dollar City used to be really good about inserting humor everywhere.
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Post by: Junior on January 10, 2011, 03:55:04 PM
Yeah, there was a fiberglass man's arm in the center of the whirlpool with a hat in the hand, going round and round in that whirlpool all day long! Good humor. The boat in the photo above is just about to enter the cave at the whirlpool. Today, the AP "log" would leaving the tunnel and entering the whirlpool at this point. The flow of water in the AP is reversed from the float trip days. At one point, there may have been a sign posted along the whirlpool warning boat passengers about the danger. I know this stock photo from SDC above had a caption that read "help this man out if you can as your boat passes by" in the 1970 booklet I have.
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Post by: Andymeets1880s on January 10, 2011, 04:09:46 PM
Hmph. *shrugs shoulders*  I coulda swore there was a voice with that hand.
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Post by: KBCraig on January 10, 2011, 09:23:36 PM
Hmph. *shrugs shoulders*  I coulda swore there was a voice with that hand.

There was.
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Post by: Junior on January 11, 2011, 09:14:35 AM
I don't remember the voice with the arm at the whirlpool, but, coulda been one. I worked there for quite some time in late summer and fall of 79, traveled that loop daily several times, but I just don't remember the voice!
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Post by: rubedugans on January 11, 2011, 10:35:14 AM
Hmm let's see what someone requested...How about a quick round of Where in the City-1981 Edition?
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/exitqueue-1.jpg)
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Post by: mhguy77 on January 11, 2011, 12:03:55 PM

Exit of the Diving bell
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Post by: marolinesdad on January 11, 2011, 06:56:10 PM
Cave exit from the Tree House
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Post by: Parson B Ready on January 11, 2011, 08:43:04 PM
Exiting the tunnel behind the waterfall at the lumberjack camp.
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Post by: History Buff on January 11, 2011, 10:28:56 PM
I'll go with Diving Bell...but it could be part of the entrance.
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Post by: Junior on January 12, 2011, 08:44:37 AM
MHGUY77 and HISTORY BUFF: I have to agree with you both! Looks like my old haunt, the exit tunnel at the diving bell. Look on the right side of the tunnel wall and see a grey streak in the rocks, I think that is the "vein of silver" (which was the closest anyone got to the silver!) Thanks for the shot, Rube! Any more diving bell/Lake Silver shots in that box of pictures from your dad? Pull 'em out and post 'em! I LOVE IT! ;D
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Post by: mhguy77 on January 12, 2011, 08:59:20 AM
When do we get our confirmation?
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Post by: rubedugans on January 12, 2011, 10:08:54 AM
I knew what it was...I just wanted Junior to take a look before It was revealed. Yes indeed you CAN also see the silver streak. A few more exist, but none show too much detail, they will be posted eventually.More to come gotta get a tune up on the Wayback Machine....Might take the morning.
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Post by: saladdays on January 12, 2011, 12:17:55 PM
Yeah, there was a fiberglass man's arm in the center of the whirlpool with a hat in the hand, going round and round in that whirlpool all day long! Good humor. The boat in the photo above is just about to enter the cave at the whirlpool. Today, the AP "log" would leaving the tunnel and entering the whirlpool at this point. The flow of water in the AP is reversed from the float trip days. At one point, there may have been a sign posted along the whirlpool warning boat passengers about the danger. I know this stock photo from SDC above had a caption that read "help this man out if you can as your boat passes by" in the 1970 booklet I have.

Me and my brother used to always say that was Indiana Jones in the whirlpool, as I believe the hat was a fedora (or something similar to one).
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Post by: rubedugans on January 12, 2011, 12:30:15 PM
In later years I think there was a fiberglass dog on a rock at this same scene. Does anyone recall that?
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Post by: DollarCityBoy on January 12, 2011, 12:44:02 PM
Yes, I remember the dog too.
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Post by: sanddunerider on January 12, 2011, 03:42:13 PM
nice one rube!
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Post by: Ozark Outlaw on January 12, 2011, 11:13:31 PM
I definitely know about the fiberglass dog at the American Plunge whirlpool. Are we talking about a different dog, or the same one the same one?
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Post by: rubedugans on January 13, 2011, 08:27:42 AM
We were speaking of the same location on the dog.
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Post by: rubedugans on January 14, 2011, 09:48:58 AM
WELCOME!
MOUNTAIN FOLKS MUSIC FESTIVAL
OPEN 9:00-7
BREAKFAST SERVED 8-11
Parking Lot Entrance 1979
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture041-1.jpg)
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Post by: Junior on January 14, 2011, 10:39:19 AM
I remember that sign!  ;D
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Post by: Andymeets1880s on January 14, 2011, 12:46:43 PM
Yeppers....I remember it too!
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Post by: sanddunerider on January 14, 2011, 06:57:59 PM
thats the sign i remember.
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Post by: How-doFolks on January 14, 2011, 09:29:34 PM
same here.
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Post by: Junior on January 15, 2011, 09:23:18 AM
Isn't it funny how something as simple as an old photo of an old sign can bring back fond memories of a different time? That sign was one of the first to greet you as you hit that parking lot. Yeah, the excitment was building up pretty strong by that point. (C'mon dad, park the car, let's go to Silver Dollar City! Hey, I can't wait to ride that green tram!) ;D
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Post by: rubedugans on January 15, 2011, 11:03:43 AM
"Old time vittles & old time prices" $4.50 Adults, $1.95 Children
Man those were the days! Nothing like eggs, sausage, bisquits and gravy, bacon, hashbrowns (or the hashbrowns with onions and peppers) grits on the savory side. On the sweet side they had the strawberries and bananas in a syrupy gooey sugary strawberry sauce, peaches in sugar syrup, and the sweet rolls/ cinnamon rolls with raisins, a big tub of apple butter ...Ahh the memories.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/millmenu.jpg)
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Post by: How-doFolks on January 15, 2011, 11:06:11 AM
Stop! Now i'm stinkin' hungry !!
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Post by: sanddunerider on January 15, 2011, 12:06:49 PM
STOP!!!  not really, keep em coming.
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Post by: rubedugans on January 16, 2011, 10:07:04 AM
Back to 1985

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/logo1985.jpg)
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Post by: thelarsonsix on January 16, 2011, 12:32:48 PM
If you're taking requests, do you have any photos or literature of the campground pre-Wilderness? I also thought I read once there used to be a waterslide (at the campground maybe?)
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Post by: History Buff on January 16, 2011, 12:41:45 PM
The waterslide was across the street at the Compton campground.
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Post by: thelarsonsix on January 16, 2011, 12:54:54 PM
The waterslide was across the street at the Compton campground.

Where Mary's Well House is now? Or actually inside Compton Ridge?
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Post by: History Buff on January 16, 2011, 12:58:08 PM
Somebody else will have to answer that one.  The way I remember it is that the slide was on the left side of the entry to CR, right at the road.
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Post by: rubedugans on January 16, 2011, 01:01:09 PM
I have images of several of the current cabins being built at SDC. During a few of the crafts festivals, they were in different areas producing logs, and raising cabins. My photos show the group in the "Land of Forgotten Crafts" building the cabins on site, they would then be transported to the Campground to be completed. Cabins were also being built there; SDC's portion I believe was just PR for the Campground enticing people to come and stay in an authentic hand made cabin. Not a lot was produced for the campground, I have a few modern postcards, but no photos of the earlier days of the Wilderness. I will pull up some of the cabin raising photos this week for you thelarsonsix. And anyone else that has a request I'd be happy to oblige if I can!
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Post by: thelarsonsix on January 16, 2011, 02:16:44 PM
This brochure is what peaked my interest:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Brochure-Silver-Dollar-City-Branson-Missouri-/160532017080?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2560742fb8 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Brochure-Silver-Dollar-City-Branson-Missouri-/160532017080?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2560742fb8)

at first glance it didn't appear to be that old, but when I enlarged it and saw the VW bus in the picture, I realized it was probably mid 70's. It also says something about "The Outpost", I guess that's what the campground was called before Wilderness. We stayed there a couple of years ago, and it seems like they still called some of their more remote campsites "outpost".
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Post by: rubedugans on January 16, 2011, 02:42:13 PM
I believe it is from 75'.

Here is a PC from the late 70's (78') of the pool @ the Compton Ridge Campground- was this the one?
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/card00849_fr.jpg)
I have a copy, but it isn't scanned, this one is for sale @ http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/card00849_fr.jpg (http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/card00849_fr.jpg)
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Post by: thelarsonsix on January 16, 2011, 02:43:37 PM
I think we're talking about 2 different things. Compton Ridge is still Compton Ridge. It's a privately owned campground across the highway from the Wilderness. The Wilderness is Silver Dollar City's campground. Very cool pic, however. That's the indoor pool now.
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Post by: sanddunerider on January 16, 2011, 02:56:44 PM
that is the indoor pool, i had forgotten that...  checked the wbsite.   pictures match!
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Post by: rubedugans on January 16, 2011, 03:03:21 PM
SWEET NECTAR IT IS!!! I was unsure if this was the one anyone was thinking of...Atleast we figured out it is still the same 33 yrs later!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/card00849_fr.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/DSC_0167.jpg)
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Post by: History Buff on January 16, 2011, 03:05:34 PM
It appears from the evidence that they took out the slide and people stopped coming to the pool.

Most of those people, by the way, are all on Medicare now.
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Post by: sanddunerider on January 16, 2011, 03:09:38 PM
 ;D
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Post by: How-doFolks on January 16, 2011, 07:05:49 PM
thats cool!
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Post by: rubedugans on January 17, 2011, 09:55:12 AM
While I am searching for the cabin photos...Uh Oh.....Like the the Bolin Boys said (back in the 80's before the script was changed) Watch out for....INDIANS!!!! This is from 1985 During the National Crafts Festival in the Fall.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Indian1985.jpg)
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Post by: marolinesdad on January 17, 2011, 11:31:07 AM
I still want to see pictures of the water slide that was there..  I think it was like the Slide that is still in Branson on the strip.
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Post by: Junior on January 17, 2011, 02:18:14 PM
SDC had a GREAT concrete waterslide located just across the road from the campground (wilderness) they only had it there for a few years, maybe late 70s through about 80 or 81. Tore it out when Whitewater went in. It's too bad, 'cause it was a wonderful waterslide, themed with the fake "rocks" like you see at SDC. Nice and shady. At the top of the slide was a big concrete area that looked like a cave with a waterfall splashing down on your head before you went down the slide. I don't know if RUBE has any pictures of it or not. I don't even think I have any pictures of it in the promotional stuff I kept from that period. Now, if the water slide you are talking about is the "cool off, ride the giant water chute" concrete water slide in Branson, yeah, I think it's still there. it has had many owners over the years, and was even closed for a season or two, but, as far as I know, is still there and operates each summer.
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Post by: Zephon on January 17, 2011, 10:54:59 PM
Mary's Wellhouse is located right across from the SDC Wilderness Campground on the road leading to Compton Ridge campground, but before you get to it.  The water slide was located between where the Wellhouse is and 265 on the north side of the road.  The Wellhouse was not there at the time.  There's a little draw that heads off to the north and the slide took advantage of the fall in grade down that draw.
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Post by: sanddunerider on January 18, 2011, 07:43:57 AM
forgotten about the indians.
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Post by: rubedugans on January 18, 2011, 12:39:17 PM
While these were being constructed, a large sign was posted nearby reading "Stay in one of these handmade cabins at The Wilderness/ SDC Campground". Silver Dollar City log hewer Mark Edwards was overseeing the whole demonstration, but is not pictured here. It was a nice PR move to bring The Cabins, and SDC together, I know it made me want to stay there! I have several others, one that I can think of showing Mark at work, but thats about it other tan, as I said the modern SDC Wilderness postcard. No slide sorry.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_1852.jpg)
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Post by: sanddunerider on January 18, 2011, 02:16:23 PM
that would have been a great marketing strategy!
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Post by: rubedugans on January 18, 2011, 03:09:35 PM
Great until you find that the lowest tier of cabins have no bathrooms for $65 a night! For many that is a deal breaker! They are however, called the "Primitive Cabins" you get more than you would if you were camping in a tent ($21), You want a bathroom? It'll costs you $121 for the "Rustic Cabin".
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Post by: Zephon on January 18, 2011, 04:32:35 PM
Just by his posture, hat, and profile, I'm going to say that log hewer is none other than Jim Waddell.  I know that he did do that for a period of time...just one of the many hats he wore at SDC.  Last I heard, he resides in Hannibal, MO, where he produces and acts in a Mark Twain show.
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Post by: Joy on January 18, 2011, 04:45:40 PM
Actually, that's not a particularly bad price for a basic cabin. When my friends and I drove to Florida a couple weeks ago, we stayed just south of Birmingham for the night in a "camping cabin" (ie beds but no bathroom, etc). Was a perfect place to stay since we got in late after HOURS of driving and didn't want to deal with putting up our tents for a single night there. It came out to about $55-60 with taxes.
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Post by: sanddunerider on January 18, 2011, 05:12:01 PM
yes, i have checked the rates at wilderness and the cabin "seem" a little high. However the the camping rates seem very reasonable.  AND the y have lots of "extras" that help out too.
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Post by: Junior on January 18, 2011, 05:18:22 PM
Zephon, I don't remember Jim Waddell doing the cabin demos, but you are the expert here. I remember JIm as the deputy sheriff, and I remember he did some part time writing for the local paper. He did an article on the Grady Nutt Show at the Hee Haw Theater in '81. JIm and I would occasionally work together. Another Junior and I were walking across Main Street one day on lunch break, and decided to "pick on" the deputy sheriff, taunting him and kidding him. (Played by Jim) So the deputy pulled his pistol out and started firing at the Dugan boys! We took off like bats outta hell. the guests loved the little ad lib skit! Ah, those were the days! LOL ;D
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Post by: thelarsonsix on January 18, 2011, 06:16:52 PM
While these were being constructed, a large sign was posted nearby reading "Stay in one of these handmade cabins at The Wilderness/ SDC Campground". Silver Dollar City log hewer Mark Edwards was overseeing the whole demonstration, but is not pictured here. It was a nice PR move to bring The Cabins, and SDC together, I know it made me want to stay there! I have several others, one that I can think of showing Mark at work, but thats about it other tan, as I said the modern SDC Wilderness postcard. No slide sorry.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_1852.jpg)

What was the time frame here?
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Post by: rubedugans on January 18, 2011, 06:20:13 PM
Mid-80's
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Post by: sanddunerider on January 18, 2011, 06:34:53 PM
I wondered why at the fall festival,, they did not build an actual building while they "demonstrating".  It was very interesting to watch.
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Post by: rubedugans on January 19, 2011, 08:31:07 AM
To my knowledge, from what I remember, they were simply framing up the cabins that would then be labeled, dismantled, and transported. Very different from the structures that have been raised in the past few years on the square that were pieced together, taken apart, and pieced together all day long for demonstrations of Barn, and cabin raisings etc. Still very cool to watch, but no work was done on site except the actual raising.
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Post by: rubedugans on January 19, 2011, 10:59:51 AM
Here's one from the 71' viewmaster titled "Whirlpool Excitement".
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_1858.jpg)
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Post by: rubedugans on January 19, 2011, 11:22:27 AM
AND this made me remember......Someone had posted a long time ago that this boat by Lake Silver is a part of the Float Trip (taken on a trip in early 2010) but upon further investigation, all of my photos show 5 rows of passengers, this only has 3. Much too small for a Greedy Bros. Boat, or a Jim Owen's Ride-UNLESS in the late 70's boats were changed to 3 rows as opposed to 5 on the Float Trip. All my photos clearly show 5, but are all from the early 70's, I have nothing from the last year or two of the ride. If not, this is just an atmosphere piece, heck maybe just a real boat!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_1308.jpg)
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Post by: sanddunerider on January 19, 2011, 02:51:34 PM
whatever!! looks great.....
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Post by: Junior on January 20, 2011, 06:33:32 AM
I worked at the float trip. I only remember aluminum boats, primed brown, and painted a darker brown. They were long, had five rows on them. Along the sides of the boats were rubber wheels that helped guide the boats along the channel. They were sturdy boats, they took a lot of abuse and use each day, but I always remember them being in pretty good shape. Although you don't see it in the viewmaster shot above of the whirlpool, a short time later a boat lift was added in the area behind where the boat in the shot above is pictured. They pulled boats out of the channel and did repair work from time to time. I remember the lift being used with the American Plunge, but have  not rode AP in a few years and don't know if the covered lift is still there once you leave the cave and get ready to go into the wooden structure as you turn to go up the lift hill.  I would say the boat you see as an atmosphere piece is just an old boat used as such. Even the boat the Dugan boys used to paddle around the lake to get trash out of the water with a net was an aluminum boat, painted brown or green or tan.
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Post by: rubedugans on January 20, 2011, 01:06:49 PM
I didn't think it was one, but I thought that I would double check to dispel any myths. Thanks Junior!
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Post by: rubedugans on January 20, 2011, 01:34:25 PM
Gandy dancer is a slang term used for early railroad workers who laid and maintained railroad tracks in the years before the work was done by machines.

Me in the "Gandy Dancer" hand cart in 1985/86
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Post by: rubedugans on January 20, 2011, 01:37:08 PM
A Gandy Dancer Cart circa 2008' Just before the turnstyles @ SDC working as a planter. I believe there are 1-2 others around the park.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/gandy.png)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on January 20, 2011, 03:06:04 PM
How sad is it that they don't set up a portable/temporary version of the Gandy Dancer for Kidsfest - instead of some of the off-theme elements they offer.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 20, 2011, 03:23:14 PM
I really think that something "kid powered" would be great for the parents. Nothing like a ride that needs no restraints, and the kid controls all of it. A temporary gandy dancer would be easy to construct, and maintian, and would be something that kids would remember more that a stock ride that can be experienced at any theme park in the world.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on January 20, 2011, 03:31:18 PM
I really think that something "kid powered" would be great for the parents. Nothing like a ride that needs no restraints, and the kid controls all of it. A temporary gandy dancer would be easy to construct, and maintian, and would be something that kids would remember more that a stock ride that can be experienced at any theme park in the world.

Agreed.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on January 20, 2011, 04:32:53 PM
i agree also..
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on January 20, 2011, 05:10:33 PM
So it's decided.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on January 20, 2011, 05:46:27 PM
yep! its unanimous!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: thelarsonsix on January 20, 2011, 06:11:07 PM
gan-dy dancer! gan-dy dancer! gan-dy dancer! (chanting)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: thelarsonsix on January 20, 2011, 06:21:09 PM
Gandy dancer is a slang term used for early railroad workers who laid and maintained railroad tracks in the years before the work was done by machines.

Me in the "Gandy Dancer" hand cart in 1985/86
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_1854.jpg)

What's the ride in the background?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 20, 2011, 06:30:29 PM
It was a structure placed in the lake as part of the atmosphering for "The Greedy Brothers Treasure Excursion" which existed ONLY in the 1984 season. The structure in the lake was implemented into the Geyser Gulch/Splash Harbor complex, and is still there today.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: thelarsonsix on January 20, 2011, 06:34:58 PM
It looks like it has tracks and a car on it. Was this only for effects or was it part of an actual ride?

I think I know the structure you're talking about now. If I were at Geyser Gulch looking at the lake it would be on the right, correct?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 20, 2011, 06:41:08 PM
It had, and still has an ore cart on it.

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/pictureorvideo1523ue6.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 20, 2011, 06:46:48 PM
Looks like a Gandy Dancer cart, dosen't it?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 20, 2011, 06:46:49 PM
It really does resemble the Gandy Dancer...
Another View
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_1853.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 20, 2011, 06:48:33 PM
That little kid in the cart is all grown up now and teaching school in the St. Louis vicinity! 1984 was HOW MANY YEARS AGO? ;)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 20, 2011, 06:51:54 PM
I remember that ride like it was 3-4 yrs ago. Yeah, teaching for 8 years now! Regardless of how long ago it was (27 yrs) I know that I get that same smile on my face every time I walk in the park.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: betamike on January 20, 2011, 07:26:00 PM
It's amazing how vivid my memory of the Gandy Dancer is as well.  Wow!!!  Something so short lived has impacted so many of us.  I also support bringing back something kid powered.  With the obesity rates of children in this country, a little "exercise" would be a positive statement to make.

One last thing for those of you that remember riding the Gandy Dancer:  Do any of you also remember pushing and pulling so hard that you smacked yourself in the face with the handle?!  I do! :'(
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 20, 2011, 07:33:28 PM
I was a little guy (as illustrated by the photo) and I just remember having to get it started and feeling like I was having to pull what felt like hundreds of pounds to get moving. I felt so proud once I get going though. Remember vividly smacking myself in the face several times While Dad was yelling "Push-Pull-Push-Pull"!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: mhguy77 on January 20, 2011, 07:45:46 PM
The lawyers will never let that return......................
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on January 20, 2011, 08:57:11 PM
What lawyers?  I don't see any lawyers.

Hey, do you suppose that ride is why there are so many dentists in town?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on January 21, 2011, 10:52:29 AM
"thats not funny"  ;D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 21, 2011, 10:53:44 AM
(I do not believe I have posted this one yet) Not alot to see from this angle, just a lost view from behind the waterfall. You can see the rear of the Lumbercamp, and my Dad with the video camera.

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_1855.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/waterfall1985.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: okiebluegrass on January 21, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
That was awesome. Really good pictures. I think it was still open to the public til at least 1997 wasn't it ?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Joy on January 21, 2011, 01:55:42 PM
It was open in the summer of... oh, god... 2003?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Pintrader on January 21, 2011, 04:07:54 PM
A picture behind the waterfall is truly a lost view.  It's one of those things at SDC that you don't miss until you can't do it anymore.  It was pretty neat walking behind it, but what I remember the most is how loud it was when you were behind it.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on January 21, 2011, 07:15:57 PM
i do remember that also..  another harmless "attraction" that we lost...
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 21, 2011, 07:22:19 PM
I remember it being wet, and lod back there. My thoughts would be that it was either A.) not handicapped accessible , or B.) It was a liability being wet. Being that it is all concrete, I did not think that it would have been anything structural. It used to lead up to the "Land of Forgotten Crafts" up a few switchbacks of mulch. I cannot exactly remember a date when the falls closed to be honest.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on January 21, 2011, 07:27:01 PM
I never liked the falls.  I found it way too fake.  The falls actually came from above ground level, and the back was always so unfinished looking.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Pintrader on January 21, 2011, 08:46:03 PM
It has always been so relaxing to me to sit and eat lunch at the top of the Lumbercamp while watching and listening to the waterfall.  It is possible they took the ability to walk behind it out because of wetness, but considering all the other wet places you walk through around the city it seems like a drop in the bucket.  It would be interesting to know the statistics of slip and falls in all the areas around the city.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on January 22, 2011, 05:07:31 AM
manmade or not...  above elevation or not.  I always like  the atmosphere of the falls..   

I also like to sit down by the river for the same reason, the sound of water. the rapids.......  yes. relaxing......

Less than 2 months to go!!!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 22, 2011, 07:34:49 AM
The waterfall is a good example of something a theme park didn't need to put in...they could have put in another shop or ride, but they did so to enhance the theme. A roaring waterfall behind the lumbercamp and a pool of water worked well there. Glad it's still there. I think they closed off the path behind it because the concrete rocks age and weaken over time, and they didn't want anything to fall on guests to hurt them. It was a relaxing and fun place to be. At one time SDC had "Kodak moment" picture taking sites on park, and that was one of them.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 22, 2011, 10:59:57 AM
Wayback machine back to a time when the lots had letter numbers, and anyone could park in the "A" lot!

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/A10.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Andymeets1880s on January 22, 2011, 12:58:20 PM
Would one of you please take the case of Coke away from sanddunerider, please! Yes, sdr, opening is very close....it's ok...I'm gonna make a quick call to the nice, gentle men in the white coats..... :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on January 23, 2011, 10:48:14 AM
go ahead andy call them. But i want a room where it is warmer.. We have zero windchill and snow here again today!.. :'( :'( :'(   

I am ready for spring ;D ;D ;D and...................................  NOPE not going to say SDC opens in about 54 days...


 " I would say it", But if your going to threaten me........... I wont say it!!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 24, 2011, 09:54:07 AM
Crossroads pottery when it was up near the exit of Gransfathers Mansion.
Notice the Kiln outside.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/crossroadspottery.jpg)

Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 24, 2011, 04:33:13 PM
That is the "classic" place for the pottery shop from my youth and the days I worked at SDC. Thanks for the photo.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 25, 2011, 08:40:45 AM
And yes in case you are wondering...The kiln is still there, It is just not used. You can see how the front was bricked up. After Crossroads pottery moved and became Hillside Pottery, this store had a number of different tennants. Immediately after the pottery was a tinsmith/metalsmith (metal lathe) is what I remember. I remember going in and having my dad explain how the pottery shop was set up while watching the craftsmen (lathier) at work. It was Followed by a jewelry store, and a few other different shops.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/johnscabin368.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 26, 2011, 11:23:04 AM
Wayback set to early 1960's Table Rock Area brochure.
Hmm anyone wanna go see Zeke Wheeler?
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_1883.jpg)
Mandy Ford and Zeke Wheeler in Wright's famous novel were actually:
         Nettie B. Morrill              Oct 15, 1891    Jul  7, 1973
         Oscar R. Morrill              Nov 21, 1881    Feb 27, 1970
                               
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: thelarsonsix on January 26, 2011, 05:01:07 PM
Excellent as usual Rube. In case anyone's interested Crow's Nest (http://www.crowsnestresort.com/) is still around.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on January 26, 2011, 05:10:19 PM
thats a great picture.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 26, 2011, 06:27:46 PM
This map is HUGE...and the ads cover the whole back...Many of these are gone, but at first glance a few are still in business in the area.
               (Iceberg)
                    /\   <--------Only the tip!
  __________/__\________               
              _/       \_
             |            \
              \            |
               \_______|
(I have never made a picture in a text document, I thought it looked like fun!)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: betamike on January 26, 2011, 06:28:33 PM
Whoa!  I have that ACTUAL postcard!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skinnytie/2538136666/in/photostream/
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on January 26, 2011, 07:10:43 PM
nice beta!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: thelarsonsix on January 26, 2011, 07:23:48 PM
Would love to see the map!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 27, 2011, 07:09:33 AM
That old post office building is still at Notch, in the area just west of SDC where "Uncle Ike's" family (grandkids and great grand kids, now) operate a trail ride attraction. The trail ride has been in operation since at least the 1970's.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 27, 2011, 03:36:28 PM
The trail rides are on my list to do this summer.

Here is the reverse of the map showing ALL of the ads.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_1903.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on January 27, 2011, 07:04:07 PM
sweet!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 28, 2011, 08:26:02 AM
I've to a big map like this, too. It's neat to explore the Table Rock Lake area on the maps. Some of the highways have been re-routed and some have had their numbers changed over the years. At one time, Highway 76 we know today was not Highway 76. If you look around on the Web for a Harold Bell Wright site, you will find there is a subheading on the site that will take you to a fine collection of HALL PHOTOGRAPHS. Mr. Hall lived in the Branson area in the 1910's and took his camera with him everywhere he went. There are photos of Highway 76 at Dewey Bald Mt. when the roadway was gravel. The photo was taken where Shepherd of the Hills Expressway meets up with the road that goes in front of Celebration City. Also photos of Jim Lane Cabin, Sammy's Lookout, Wash Gibbs Cabin, Old Matt's Cabin, Uncle Ike's Post Office, and more.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 28, 2011, 01:02:42 PM
This is divided into regions, so don't be thinking that it is ONLY Branson attractions. It has regional stores, motels etc.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on January 28, 2011, 01:17:13 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: thelarsonsix on January 28, 2011, 06:59:18 PM
Hall postcards (http://www.hbw.addr.com/hallnumeric.htm)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 28, 2011, 09:51:06 PM
One of the SDC carraiges from when it was at the now defunct "Adventure Town" theme park in Alexandria Bay, NY (1955-1960). SDC purchased the Locomotive Train and the two Stage Coaches ($5,000 for the two coaches and $30,000 for the locomotive.)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/stagecoach.jpg)
How Much things cost in 1961
Yearly Inflation Rate USA 1.07%
Average Cost of new house $12,500.00
Average Income per year $5,315.00
Cost of a gallon of Gas 27 cents
Average Cost of a new car $2,850.00
Bacon for 1LB 67 cents
Eggs per dozen 30 cents

Now the math...at a 629.3%  rate of inflation
At $5,000.00 for the coach in 1961 that converts to $36,464.05
and
At $30,000.00 in 1961 for the train-that converts to $218,784.28

Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: thelarsonsix on January 29, 2011, 09:28:09 AM
With the exception of bacon and eggs, everything on your list has increased almost exactly ten fold. Just for giggles, let's project another 40 years:

2051 Average cost of new house $1,250,000
Average Income $531,500
Cost of a gallon of gas $27.00 (we may not to wait 40 years for this one)
Cost of a new car $285,000
Bacon for 1LB $67.00
Eggs per dozen $30.00
SDC one day Adult ticket $550.00 + $44.11 tax = $594.11
SDC Adult season pass $750.00 + $56.10 tax = $806.10 Still your best value!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on January 29, 2011, 10:09:31 AM
okey dokey,,,,,,,

Well lets see...   I have a house for sale.....  LOL..

and my season passes ordered for 2051!!!

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 30, 2011, 06:52:29 PM
NOt quite wayback...but All the way to...this afternoon! Well Sort of! This is a late 80's, early 90's bell that I got at Goodwill for $0.50!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_1877.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: How-doFolks on January 30, 2011, 09:49:52 PM
Nice clean finger nails.... :o    Oh yeah, killer find for 2 quarters!! :) Maybe we ought'a go back to the thrift stores ourselves.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 31, 2011, 09:08:57 AM
OK Rube, if you are going to brag about your recent second hand store finds, I guess I will too! Before Christmas I found a vintage 1993 SDC Christmas Ornament in a flea market for fifty cents, and just last Friday evening my wife and I bought a box of junk for a buck at an auction, and tucked inside the box was a pristine condition Doc Harris "Wildfire" plush doll. Just had to brag, Rube, hope you don't mind! Now you dig into that vault in your house and pull out some fabulous finds that are part of your ever growing collection!  ;D   (See a photo of my finds on the Flickr site.)

                                               http://www.flickr.com/photos/juniordugan
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on January 31, 2011, 10:46:57 AM
Glad to hear it Junior. No braggin' here, just sharin'!
Back to the early 70's for this find of mine that ran me about $1.50. I thought once or twice about making a copy to stick on the car...but never did!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/CarEmblem.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on January 31, 2011, 12:47:19 PM
How about a decal for your car door......

"SDC or Bust!!"
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on January 31, 2011, 04:03:31 PM
Good one, Rube! :)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on March 04, 2011, 06:42:02 AM
Rube, have you gone through and posted all of the stuff you have for the Wayback Machine, or can you still pull some gems out and post them? It's been awhile...please stick your hand into the magic hat and pull out some more rabbits for us! It doesn't matter what you post...maybe some more items from your proposed book. (I'm still waiting for that, too!)  :)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 04, 2011, 08:40:14 AM
Since the push to 2,000, I have had a few unforseen issues come up, leaving me very little time lately...The machine has many many more destinations left, and is growing by the day, 5 new items...uhh I mean destinations have been added just this week alone! To hold you all over here is a piece I do not believe I have posted...

It is a two-fer. Same images, etc, two different years. Notice the Left brochure has "Free Admission" and the right brochure does not...Funny how they reused the images. I have 2 more other years with the same Shad photo, and a different background from 2 other years!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/2DifferentYearsBrochures.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on March 04, 2011, 02:42:32 PM
Alright, Rube...keep 'em coming!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on March 04, 2011, 04:54:39 PM
that is funny/odd they used the exact same design..  just changed the wording..  lets see the others you have rube!.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on March 04, 2011, 05:01:12 PM
Free admission - that should make some people around here happy .
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on March 04, 2011, 05:04:47 PM
LMAO!!   Your funny HB!!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: DollarCityBoy on March 04, 2011, 07:14:23 PM
Free admission - that should make some people around here happy .
:D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 05, 2011, 10:37:21 AM
Okay!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/2MoreDifferentBrochures.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: History Buff on March 05, 2011, 11:26:49 AM
On Table Rock Lake?  Atop Marvel Cave?  Make up your mind - which is it?

What are the respective years for these four brochures, Rube?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: DollarCityBoy on March 05, 2011, 11:47:30 AM
On Table Rock Lake?  Atop Marvel Cave?  Make up your mind - which is it?

What are the respective years for these four brochures, Rube?

Yeah seriously, "On Table Rock Lake".......ehhhhhh......Kinda.....I guess
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Andymeets1880s on March 05, 2011, 12:06:22 PM
I agree, Junior! Keep it rolling, Rube. Drop everything and pay homage to SDC by furnishing us with memories and pictures! NOW! Feed us!  :D :D :D ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on March 05, 2011, 12:41:19 PM
What was that stupid movie?  had a giant plant or something...???   you know....
FEED ME!!!!     FEEEED  MEE!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on March 05, 2011, 01:16:56 PM
Little Shop of Horrors was the movie. Original by Roger Corman, starred Jack Nicholson. A remake featured Rick Moranis and Steve Martin.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 07, 2011, 08:09:19 AM
Little SHop of Horrors? and I will check tonihgt on the dates of some of those brochures...
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: okiebluegrass on March 07, 2011, 12:39:35 PM
Feed Me, Seymour. :D Never saw the original, just the remake.

My Community theater did the play a few years back.

The plant wins in the play  :o
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on March 07, 2011, 04:00:31 PM
oh yes!!  now its coming back o me...

FEED ME!!!                 More history on SDC!      FEED ME!!!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on August 04, 2011, 10:03:10 PM
Juniors post on Lost SDC made me think I have not fired up the Wayback Machine in a while...here we go...Lets see what is in the TV Guide August 23-29 1969
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/tvguideaug1969.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on August 04, 2011, 11:31:05 PM
Rube, do you you have the 1970 or '71 vacation guide that was sent out in the mail by request that featured the famous Shad photo with Granny and Ellie Mae in front of the hotel shot? I would love to see some shots of that old vacation guide. Branson strip circa 1970 featured these attractions: Jesse James Motel, Confusion Hill, Little Bo Peep Gift Shop, Dickenson Gift Shop, Presleys, Baldknobbers, and not much more...maybe Plummer Family and Foggy River Boys, but that's about all. A lot of trees and pastures, with cows coming right up to the fence along Hwy. 76!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on August 05, 2011, 11:13:40 AM
I do have a magazine/ pathfinder-esque newspaper that has granny, shad, and elly mae on the cover...I am unsure if it is the one you are speaking of, I am guessing it in fact is...If I can locate it when I get home this afternoon, I will let you know what is in there. For a while I know I had it in my desk at work so I could read it when I got a chance, I never did...and I don't know where it ended up!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: okiebluegrass on August 05, 2011, 11:26:09 AM
Keep the ole wayback machine warmed up. I'd like to take a trip in it a little more often
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on August 05, 2011, 01:06:28 PM
Rube, sounds like you have got the little magazine I'm thinking of. Hope you can post some shots of it here. Thanks!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on August 05, 2011, 05:55:41 PM
No luck yet...but I know I will find it. It is at the same place as my Beverly Hillbillies DVD, and Beverly HIllbillies late 1960s comic book. My thoughts are this is the one you are thinking...Only time will tell.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on August 26, 2011, 07:40:12 PM
Well it took a few weeks, but I found it (in a manilla envelope in a file cabinet in my office at work!)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_3439.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on August 26, 2011, 07:43:18 PM
I spent a whole $1.40 on this gem, it is filled with SDC stuff...there is an area map, a cave, crafts, and some really good ads from places in the city. My favorite is:
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_3446.jpg).

I know there was a Jesse James Confusion Hill P/C that sold today on eBay for around $1.50
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on August 27, 2011, 09:26:20 AM
Rube: YOU FOUND IT! That is the little vacation magazine I remember from about 1970. How about opening it up and photographing the interior for us? It will be interesting to see what articles and what ads are in this little publication. THANKS!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Avalanche04 on August 27, 2011, 02:09:06 PM
all i can say is wow!!! thank you for the post
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on August 27, 2011, 04:19:17 PM
You know I will!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_3442.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on August 27, 2011, 04:58:06 PM
That is entirely too cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: thelarsonsix on August 27, 2011, 07:34:46 PM
What was that stupid movie?  had a giant plant or something...???   you know....
FEED ME!!!!     FEEEED  MEE!

Emphasis on the stupid. At least in the remake.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: thelarsonsix on August 27, 2011, 07:48:08 PM
Well it took a few weeks, but I found it (in a manilla envelope in a file cabinet in my office at work!)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_3439.jpg)

I've seen this before, but can't remember where...
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Post by: Junior on August 27, 2011, 09:51:22 PM
Looking at the city map I see the Butterfield Hotel is on this map. It was torn down about 1979. The Wilson's Farm area is now covering that spot.
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Post by: rubedugans on August 27, 2011, 10:16:04 PM
Yah It is the only thing to the other side of the train tracks as well. The Depot is on the map, but from the location I assumed the Butterfield Hotel was located more Huck Finns area (Wax hands) now exists. Thanks for the clarification
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Post by: Avalanche04 on August 28, 2011, 09:17:33 AM
great post larsonsix, wow!! thank you.
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Post by: betamike on August 28, 2011, 04:42:36 PM
Here's a souvenir that I had completely forgotten I had until I rummaged through some old boxes my last trip home.  Purchased at the Hospitality House, no doubt.



http://www.flickr.com/photos/skinnytie/6090647860/
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on August 28, 2011, 05:38:50 PM
Wanna start a band?
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_3454.jpg)
WITH hard case for protection!
(my other side looks the same as yours with the decorative brads on the screws...but there is a big  mark from the price tag, so I photographed the other side!

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Post by: betamike on August 28, 2011, 06:22:18 PM
This could be the start of everything folks.  Next time you see Rubedugans and myself, we'll be closing out the Echo Hollow Ampitheater.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Avalanche04 on August 28, 2011, 06:26:30 PM
lol i would like too see that. jk ;D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on August 29, 2011, 05:52:10 PM
This could be the start of everything folks.  Next time you see Rubedugans and myself, we'll be closing out the Echo Hollow Ampitheater.

That would be worth the price of admission right there!  ;D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on August 29, 2011, 07:29:54 PM
I was in a band and played drums for a year or so in high school, but neer harmonica. I played bass for years in high school and college in a band...but never harmonica.
I currently play guitar once a month in a Bluegrass band but never harmonica.

That's be a sight for sure! I'll stick to painting!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Zephon on August 29, 2011, 10:50:06 PM
Actually, I think that Butterfield Hotel is a building that was located right across the tracks from the Saloon, where Aunt Polly's Restaurant now sits. When I first worked in the Saloon (77), we would go sit on it's porch for a smoke and wave at the train as it went by. The locations shown of Lake Silver and many of the structures are misleading, as they are on most SDC maps.
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Post by: Ozark Outlaw on August 30, 2011, 11:14:59 AM
Youíre right about that Zephon! Itís always fun looking over the older Pathfinders, and seeing how all of the building, and landmarks are way out of place. The current Pathfinder isnít perfect, but itís an improvement from the old days.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: clancomyn on October 04, 2011, 02:00:00 PM
Here is a photo that was in with several Branson and Forsyth Photos
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/fishingtrip.jpg)
Do you notice any familiar faces?
Try this detail...
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/RoyRogers.jpg)
Look familiar?Maybe like this?(this one below is NOT from my collection just a stock photo)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/WillRogers.jpg)

This is a photo of Missouri Governor Herbert Hadley on a White River float trip, circa 1909. The governor's trip is documented on pages 205-206 of Rafferty's The Ozarks: Land and Life, as well as Morrow's Shepherd of the Hills Country: Tourism Transforms the Ozarks.
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Post by: rubedugans on October 04, 2011, 02:06:18 PM
I would love to see what it says about it. This is an original photo I have of this trip, and I would love to know who the other members could be.

I had found the photo as wel here:
http://www.whiteriver.net/famousfloats/daytrips.htm (http://www.whiteriver.net/famousfloats/daytrips.htm)
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Post by: rubedugans on October 04, 2011, 02:10:08 PM
I just got out my copy of the book, and it tells of the journey, but no other members of the group...maybe there is a famous person or two for Ozark legend, but who knows (I still believe it is "Old Matt" in the photo.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: clancomyn on October 04, 2011, 02:18:35 PM
I just got out my copy of the book, and it tells of the journey, but no other members of the group...maybe there is a famous person or two for Ozark legend, but who knows (I still believe it is "Old Matt" in the photo.

Rafferty credits the photo to the State Historical Society of Missouri; I wonder if they have any documentation to the other members of the Governor's party? The one fellow does look like Old Matt, though.  ;)

T/
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Post by: rubedugans on October 04, 2011, 02:42:30 PM
When I bought the photos a while back, I became obsessed with trying to find the figures in the photo. I had not looked into the MO govt. officials. I do know that JK Ross passed away in 1923, so this could have easily been Ross...Even though the eyes could appear a bit more rounded, but the rest is spot on!
Quote
Back to the fishing trip...
Does #2 Gentleman
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/man2.jpg)
Look like this gentleman...(old Matt-J.K. Ross of HBW novel SOTH)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/matt_mollie1204-1.jpg)
I am not a forensicologist, but I think I might be onto something here, the mouth, nose, eyes, and well a lack of beard, the gentleman holding this man up/supporting him for a photo...Will Rogers and now this man on a boat trip on the White River...I think it is definitely a possibility.
Will Rogers traveled the country from 1922-1935, Old Matt died in 1923...hmm
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Avalanche04 on October 13, 2011, 08:50:49 PM
great old photos posted on here everyone. thanks
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 14, 2011, 12:21:19 PM
Glad you are enjoying them! If I had time I would post to it everyday, but time is a hard thing to find these days.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 14, 2011, 08:29:13 PM
Let's fire the wayback machine up for old times sake...how about we see exactly what the White River Valley looked like BEFORE they built the dam...Hop along for the ride, and don't forget to bring your cameras this is gonna be all under water soon!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/KGrHqYOKj4E3Li3UPNeBN-qbY0TQ0_3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Avalanche04 on October 15, 2011, 06:17:28 PM
wow keep them coming i cant get enough of your photos and your post.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 17, 2011, 06:45:08 PM
Save your money young'ns ...Wayback set to a time when pennies were copper, and dimes and quarters were newly (5yrs earlier) changed to a sandwich of metals instead of the silver Good old 1970/71.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/KGrHqUOKnQE5JRmd157BOgQJqO3u60_3.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/KGrHqIOKjIE5Vby99dBOgQKE2bQ60_3.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/KGrHqIOKnUE52l-OTySBOgQJ4Bybg60_3.jpg)
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Post by: Ozark Outlaw on October 17, 2011, 06:50:25 PM
Awesome piece there rube!

Although I love how the coin is dated 1921, which is four decades after the time period of Silver Dollar City.  :P
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Post by: rubedugans on October 17, 2011, 06:54:01 PM
That confused me as well! The Lynch's were working the cave at that time, but it was not until 1927 that the name was changed to Mavel (from Marble) I couldn't really find much about the year. Maybe a birth year for someone...who knows!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: thelarsonsix on October 17, 2011, 07:03:55 PM
If I might make a request: Do you have any photos taken inside the park near the "corners" that have now been expanded? What I would like to see is how it looked from inside the park before GG, GE, etc. I'm guessing this would be mid 70's about the time Deepwoods was added. Might be a hard request to fulfill, but I'm trying to visualize what it would look like if I was walking around the park circa 1974 or so.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: DollarCityBoy on October 17, 2011, 07:34:07 PM
^I actually remember when GG & GE were added. GG in the 90's and GE in the last few years. Red Gold was added before GE and that was the cutoff for some time. Before Red Gold, the cutoff was at the Frisco Barn / Echo Hollow.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on October 17, 2011, 08:19:27 PM
As far as the Grand Exposition, I believe that area was once an employee parking lot. For those who have Google Earth, you can use the Historical Imagery slide bar, and go all the way back to 1990.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 17, 2011, 08:27:23 PM
I have several photos from trips during the 1970's I will check on what the areas look like. I have many early 80s as well and can give those a look when I get a chance. It might take a few weeks, but I will not forget!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: thelarsonsix on October 17, 2011, 08:36:24 PM
As far as the Grand Exposition, I believe that area was once an employee parking lot. For those who have Google Earth, you can use the Historical Imagery slide bar, and go all the way back to 1990.

Wow, I didn't know it had that feature. That's pretty cool. I think that's not really what I'm looking for though. That would mainly be an aerial/satellite photo, where I'm looking for a picture from inside the park. Gonna have to come out of someone's personal collection I imagine.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 17, 2011, 09:33:56 PM
Lake Silver pre GG.... Not that all of this at this time is gone now, but this was the closest I had on hand at this time! About the last 1/4 of the trees are gone now, and around the rest of the lake prior to GG, it looked much the same as this. This area can still be seen, however the train ride used to showcase more of the lake, This is by no means a "good" photo of the lake, but I have to have something when I get those old 74-76 photos out!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/lakesilver1982.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on October 18, 2011, 08:19:24 AM
For a look across Lake Silver from the late 70s/early 1980's prior to the building of Greedy Brothers, Geyser Gulch, and Splash Harbor, take a look at my flickr account...go all the way back to page six.

                                                   http://www.flickr.com/photos/juniordugan
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Post by: DollarCityBoy on October 18, 2011, 09:29:43 AM
For a look across Lake Silver from the late 70s/early 1980's prior to the building of Greedy Brothers, Geyser Gulch, and Splash Harbor, take a look at my flickr account...go all the way back to page six.

                                                   http://www.flickr.com/photos/juniordugan

Just so I can get my barings, where were you standing when you took that photo?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: tiffanylynnt on October 18, 2011, 09:41:38 AM
As far as the Grand Exposition, I believe that area was once an employee parking lot. For those who have Google Earth, you can use the Historical Imagery slide bar, and go all the way back to 1990.

Thanks to you! I downloaded Google Earth last night and was up til 3am playing with it. And I have class today!!
Thanks Ozark!  ;)
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Post by: Ozark Outlaw on October 18, 2011, 09:47:00 AM
Anytime!  ;D
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Post by: mhguy77 on October 18, 2011, 03:14:17 PM
I miss the old weeping willows they used to have at the lake.
I am not sure if they have any like this still around the lake.  They look so nice and airy.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on October 18, 2011, 05:08:14 PM
I was standing in the photo at the end of the waiting line area at Rube Dugan's Diving Bell. Just about thirty feet away from the present "Dugan's Trading Company." The location that I stood at is now part of the channel of the lost river. About at the location where the channel turns sharply to go into the cave area of lost river.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Avalanche04 on October 18, 2011, 06:38:23 PM
i have a question that may not belong here but here goes. back in the late 80s or early 90s they had car seats in some of the cars on the fith ride first why did they take them out and when. my kids loved it i can remember taken my now 20 year old son when he was 3 or 4 he couldn't get enough of it.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: thelarsonsix on October 18, 2011, 07:01:55 PM
Junior,

The pic of Phyllis on the phone says its at the exit of OM. This is the same exit we use now to get on the trams, correct? Why are there turnstiles there now? I had always thought that used to be an entrance that was changed into an exit, but it looks like even back in the early 80's it was an exit.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on October 19, 2011, 08:41:18 AM
That photo of Phyllis is at the exit everyone has always used to go to the trams. I don't know why they removed the turnstyles there. I know they have counters at the turnstyles still used to go into the park. The turnstyle at the exit back then did have a counter too. Phyllis and others working her post back then were the ones that stamped your hand if you were going to the parking lot and wanted to return to the park later. I think that same job is done now by a person who stands or sits next to the exit door at the Ozark Marketplace. It's possible that they don't stamp hands anymore, because your ticket can be scanned, so they know if  you are holding a valid ticket. Times change! Phyllis was a great gal, a wonderful "Ruby Dugan" and she got along well with all the Juniors. She and I went to college at School of the Ozarks back then...I even got to take her out on a date one time to the movies. We saw the movie "Six Pack" that starred Kenny Rogers. She was a good kisser, too! I enjoyed my friendship with her. I wonder what's happened to her. If she is like me she probably has been married for years and has kids and grandkids, too!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Avalanche04 on October 20, 2011, 06:25:46 PM
lol no i never done anything like that, cause i know what would have happend if i would have done them things, my ol man would have tore into me like there was no tomorrow, lol
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Post by: DollarCityBoy on October 20, 2011, 09:49:00 PM
I always push those 1 extra time in memory of my late grandmother.
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Post by: Ozark Outlaw on October 20, 2011, 11:29:37 PM
at leaste you didnt go around smashing mailboxes or pumpkins or defying authority! (I hope) And if turning the turnstyles is a crime lock me up in the SDC jailhouse cuz I am GUILTY!

They wouldn't send you to the jailhouse to snooze, they would send you to the Flooded Mine to work.  ;)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on October 21, 2011, 08:59:49 AM
I will gladly work the flooded mine! sign me up!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 24, 2011, 08:21:25 PM
Wayback set for a time when the stagecoach was not just for special occasions in the park. This was a request from Ozark BBQ for the SDC Art.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/ButterfieldStage.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: thelarsonsix on October 24, 2011, 08:27:06 PM
Good stuff, Rube!
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Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on October 25, 2011, 09:01:15 AM
your collection never ceases to amaze me rube!
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Post by: Ozark Outlaw on October 26, 2011, 11:30:50 PM
Awesome picture Rube!

I wish they still did this today. Who needs fancy rollercoasters when you can take a ride on a real Stagecoach?  ;D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 26, 2011, 11:32:46 PM
They bring it ,or one very similar to it, out on special occasions, and different festivals. By my time the rides had ceased, so my only enjoyment on it was playing,a ndgetting annual photographs of me and my sister in the stagnant coach.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 27, 2011, 12:40:00 PM
While working on my compilation for my items I am often asked why I do what I do. Why do I collect items from my youth, and before me? What do I need them for? Here is my explanation. I know I am preaching to the choir on this one.

I am a history teacher (among other things) and I am worried. Our modern 21st century society, and even this website is not a timeless medium. We know so much about the ancient cultures, past societies, and history because of the recorded information being placed on items that, for the most part have stood the test of time. Our descendants and theirs and so on, will not have the evidence of our civilizations/ society to the extent that we have the items from our predecessors. I still send postcards, write letters, read hard copies of books, and print photographs from film. These all will cease to exist in our paperless, online web based society. I know it is ironic that I am stating this here, on a web site; but it is the idea that through this medium I can share some of these items that have been markers of our time , what we have been through and seen, and those who came before us. Think of all the items the millions of people passing through have purchased. Where are they now?

Think of our children sorting through our belongings when we move along to our big SDC in the sky. They will come across photos, letters, books, tangible items that will be too cumbersome for them, and like many others discard them. Why keep this if I have it digitally? Why hold onto the larger, the slower, or the not so new? Buy the smaller, quicker, the newer. Condense.

I keep my items not because I am a pack rat or a hoarder, but because I can feel connected, and bonded with my past, and have the memories rush back to me. Connections that I, being raised in a time when technology was many years away, cannot feel with e-readers, and text messages. How would our lives be if we did not have these things? Ask a kid to use a map instead of an app, or dial a phone that has no send button or a cord (or better yet a rotary), ask them to use a dictionary instead of spell check, Or spend hours at the library until closing time to try to research for the term paper you had to type on a typewriter, or basic word processor.  They make life easier, but at what cost. Are we becoming too lazy, and fostering the immediate gratification of everything? What happened to waiting for your photos on 35mm, never knowing if the show you missed would be on re-runs, having to find the right track before you dropped the needle.

Books have been replaced by tablets
Postcards by text messages
Photographs with Jpegs/ Images

My collection is a testament to what will eventually disappear from our lives, and an example of one persons small contribution to a passion that many have. I will compile the things of mine into a comprehensive piece so I can make my small difference. I keep so I can spread the knowledge, I keep because I cannot see these lost to time, I keep so I will not forget.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Pintrader on October 27, 2011, 02:06:18 PM
Every year on the news they talk about this year's college graduating class.  What was going on when they were born, what they have experienced in their life, what new technology has been developed and what they have missed.  This year really made me think when they said "The graduating class this year probably have never dialed a rotary phone".  That really makes a person think!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on October 27, 2011, 06:58:08 PM
Rube, i just read you previous statement about "newer not better"...

I AGREE WITH YOU 100%!     enuf sed!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 30, 2011, 01:33:11 PM
My Dad went coin shooting at a resort on Table Rock Lake this summer and found a few dollars worth of change, and one great item (that I very quickly claimed as mine!). The complex known as 76 Mall and is now Grand Country on Hwy 76 in Branson, MO (the place with the really large banjo). There was a Bonanza restaurant, an indoor putt putt  course, several shops, shows, and a few other things.

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/IMG_0054.jpg)
 
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Avalanche04 on October 30, 2011, 02:04:57 PM
cool hang onto that,  not sure if its worth anything but very cool.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on October 30, 2011, 02:18:47 PM
rube, how do you always seem to fall into awesome stuff?? let me rub your tummy for your amazing good luck!!!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on October 30, 2011, 04:24:58 PM
Rube... Coin shooting?  explain please.. ???
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on October 30, 2011, 04:44:53 PM
Coin shooting is looking for coins after an event involving many people, like a baseball game, or simply looking for any old coins. Serious coin shooters will spend hours, days and months doing historical research to locate long lost sites that have the potential to give up historical and collectible coins.

This is different than prospecting-looking for precious metals, general detecting-looking for artifacts, and beach combing-$ or jewelry on a beach
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on November 01, 2011, 11:39:25 AM
Feeling nostalgic...how bought a good stage coach photo? Not sure if I posted it before...but I like this one so deal with it! Those were the days right sis?
I have yet to post the train car that used to be next to the TinType shop...maybe later this week if I get to scanning it!

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/stagecoach1982-2-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Avalanche04 on November 01, 2011, 01:14:33 PM
wow rube thanks i remember that and had my picture taken in that stagecoach many times, totally forgot about that coach. thank you again!!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on November 01, 2011, 03:09:28 PM
glad to have you around rube! I get to see the things I am too young/not yet around to remember. Keep on scanning!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: tiffanylynnt on November 01, 2011, 03:54:51 PM
Is this the same coach?
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on November 01, 2011, 04:57:48 PM
TIFF: The stagecoach picture is one I have never seen before. It appears they may have refinished the outside of a coach and made it into a "mail coach." Is this a recent photo from SDC? Where is the stagecoach located. It appears to be in the older part of SDC because of the street lamp next to it.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on November 01, 2011, 04:59:00 PM
Please post the photo of the train car next to tintype. I'm eager to see how that looks.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Pintrader on November 01, 2011, 06:03:51 PM
The stagecoach pictured has been at the city for at least the last 2 years.  Both years it was parked in front of the Mine Restaurant, but not exactly in the same place.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: tiffanylynnt on November 01, 2011, 06:07:47 PM
TIFF: The stagecoach picture is one I have never seen before. It appears they may have refinished the outside of a coach and made it into a "mail coach." Is this a recent photo from SDC? Where is the stagecoach located. It appears to be in the older part of SDC because of the street lamp next to it.

I took the picture Oct. 22, 2011.

I'm not good at describing, but maybe this picture will help.
The coach was somewhere in the area that I put the star. That's about as specific as I can be because I don't remeber exactly.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on November 01, 2011, 08:22:48 PM
I like that you used the map and a star. Thats some swift thinking! I woulda tried and failed to explain it!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: tiffanylynnt on November 01, 2011, 09:14:43 PM
I sat and stared at the screen for 15 minutes trying to figure out how to explain it. A pop up ad with a "you are here" thing showed up and gave me the idea!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on November 01, 2011, 09:30:50 PM
awesome critical thinkin skills!! snaps to you!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on November 01, 2011, 10:58:43 PM
My photo is from 1982 if that helps!!!
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Post by: stlphotogal on November 02, 2011, 10:15:08 AM
Aww...I remember that stagecoach :)
I can't believe how little your face has changed in 27 or so years ;)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on November 02, 2011, 10:34:55 AM
Someday we'll have to reenact all these photos!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on November 26, 2011, 07:47:59 PM
Stocked up today at the antique mall...4 postcards for $1.25. I got Rustic Oak Best Western Branson (Hotel near the landing on the hill), Silver DOllar Jubilee @ Echo Hollow and The Frisco train  (both large scale postcards (and the fourth was a random StL Art Museum!).

I saw so many others if price would have not been an option, Meramec Caverns Mug from the 60s $3, A 1950's creamer container from Grand Ole Opry $0.50, an Ozark tree plaque with a photo of a creek on it $2.00, An O.K. Ozark Kuntry Realty metal sign from Mtn Grove MO $48, and BUNCH of Taneycomo fliers and postcards from the past 40-50 yrs.

Also a really cool postcard folder from Six Flags over Mid America from 1974 that I might go back and get...
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: sanddunerider on November 26, 2011, 07:56:41 PM
WOW!!  you made a killin! good job!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on November 26, 2011, 08:11:53 PM
Stop typing and start posting! Sounds like some great finds.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Ozark Outlaw on November 27, 2011, 09:33:04 AM
Stocked up today at the antique mall...4 postcards for $1.25. I got Rustic Oak Best Western Branson (Hotel near the landing on the hill), Silver DOllar Jubilee @ Echo Hollow and The Frisco train  (both large scale postcards (and the fourth was a random StL Art Museum!).

I canít wait to see those!  :)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: thelarsonsix on November 28, 2011, 05:43:58 PM
Stop typing and start posting! Sounds like some great finds.

Yeah. Come on Ebeneezer. Let's see 'em.  ;D
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on November 29, 2011, 08:51:58 AM
OOOOOOkay....
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture496.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on November 29, 2011, 09:32:30 AM
Ah yes, the famous "Stage Curtain" at the cave...remember the Ethel Merman version of America the Beautiful while a slide or short film of a waving American Flag was flashed upon the rock wall? Classic roadside Americana, circa the 1960s and 70s!  And that lovely picture of the "brand new" Grand ole Opry House in Nashville at the Opryland theme park! It was country, when country wasn't cool! Thanks Rube, post some more shots of that collection, please!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Injun Joe on November 29, 2011, 12:59:58 PM
That is some nifty detail on that stein.  I can hardly believe I've never made it to Meramec Caverns.  And I'm still upset over the loss of Opryland.  It was a fantastic park and the first place I ever rode a "big kids" coaster.  The Rock N Roller Coaster....awesome.  Been hooked ever since.
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Post by: thelarsonsix on November 29, 2011, 06:01:54 PM
That stein is way cool. I've never made it to Meramec Caverns either, but it's on my short list. BTW Rube, I was just razzin' ya about being Scrooge. I really appreciate the time you spend to share your treasures with us.
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Post by: rubedugans on November 29, 2011, 09:59:16 PM
No blood, no foul! I have been spread even thinner lately. Doing a few art works for some folks ( a story in itself) planning a huge art work , balancing work which is a chore these days being that I was just added one more course in my day to teach, home ( yet another story!) and my SDC is how my usual day goes ! I have a few pieces set aside to try to scan tomorrow... I hope to get to it by 4 pm( quittin time !) stay tuned
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Post by: tiffanylynnt on November 30, 2011, 01:58:54 PM
Where was this store that you got these at?
I've been to several antique stores and I've never seen anything like them!
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Post by: Junior on November 30, 2011, 02:19:25 PM
Tiff, since you live at Stanton, all you got to do is look around a bit harder. There has to be tons of that stuff in flea markets around your area. Keeping looking, and have fun! Look for SDC stuff too, there is a lot of it out there.
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Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on November 30, 2011, 03:58:17 PM
@Tiffany-I dont think you have learned yet that Mr Rube Dugan there falls into this stuff. All he has to do is sneeze and poof cool stuff appears. I think little shoe cobbling leprachans come out and magically lay awesome stuff out for him......the winner. ugh.
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Post by: rubedugans on November 30, 2011, 05:16:26 PM
I have a honey hole that I dip into. It is a routine for any weekday I happen to be off of work, go grab lunch, and go comb the shelves and hopefully come home happy!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: tiffanylynnt on December 01, 2011, 11:29:21 PM
My aunt and I take a few Saturdays every couple of months to go to thrift stores, antique malls, flea markets as our little "together time", but I've never seen anything from Meramec Caverns or SDC! Maybe I just don't know where to look.  ???
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Post by: rubedugans on December 02, 2011, 08:00:34 AM
I went to many garage sales this summer and came up totally empty handed on SDC/ Branson/ Ozark items. Not even as much as a Hillbilly toothpick holder or a plastic souvenir Dixie Stampeed Boot mug...needless to say I will be sticking to the flea markets and antique stores. The antique stores tend to be a bit pricey though, so if you can find flea market items usually it is easier on the pocketbook.
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Post by: rubedugans on December 04, 2011, 11:40:35 AM
I heard about another place I could try for a few items that I might try to get out to this afternoon...while you are waiting for that, and for me to find a new driver for our scanner (the one we have is missing or corrupt! so no new images until then!!!) enjoy this other item Before it was Hillside Pottery...it was crossroads pottery. I like the men sitting on the porch of the facade next door playing music (this is tiny's chair repair). This is what is missing in the park today, the little touches around that create the ambiance, and playful atmosphere. I would gladly strap on my axe, and sit and play as people walked past! I'd be great for directions, or storytelling about the parks past...

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/popcorn004-1.jpg)
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Post by: Junior on December 04, 2011, 01:52:54 PM
this appears to be an early to mid 70s shot. the little building down at the bottom of the picture was the basketweaving shop at the time. Same one where Granny and Ellie Mae visited a few years prior. I do remember muscians playing on the porch there. A different time, and a more quiet and relaxed time. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by: thelarsonsix on December 04, 2011, 04:07:06 PM
They do still play on one of the porches near the one room school. I realize it's not front and center of the park for everyone to see, but you can hear them as you exit HH and enter the park. I've been drawn over there more than once and found it very enjoyable. On one occasion there a man in top hat and period costume singing a bass cover of Weird Al's "When I Was Your Age". All in the crowd loved it! But what I think you were staying was how you miss the unplanned, unscheduled little "bits" of entertainment. And I agree.
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Post by: Kentucky Optimist on December 04, 2011, 04:13:02 PM
I think having live unstaged music would add a lot to the park.  No need for a start time or amp system or even a playlist...just some good old ozark pickin' and singin'  Much like homestead pickers but all over the park and without a set show time.  They used to do that with musicians sitting at a booth as you walked out of HH on the right side before you got to E&D's bakery. Was there ever anything in that building where the porch is?  Or has it always just been for looks?  My family always finds one place to sit and eat, but we get our food from all over the park and meet in once place.  I've often said that SDC should pay me to walk around all day with a bowl of hot food.  Whenever I'm heading back to meet up with them I bet I have 10 people stop me and ask "where did you get that?" and I give them directions.  Maybe the ultimate answer is to have musicians doing live jam sessions, eating family feud & apple dumplings and giving directions on where to get the food.  Might really bump up food sales!
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Post by: rubedugans on December 04, 2011, 04:47:16 PM
I believe the facade is on a part of the building that is the back room of the current structure, I haven't been in in a while so I really couldn't say.
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Post by: How-doFolks on December 05, 2011, 05:36:44 AM
i just dig the hi-tech stroller. :D
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Post by: Injun Joe on December 06, 2011, 12:51:32 AM
Only the finest blue canvas for those kids and nice tight short shorts for all.  Ya gotta love the 70's.
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Post by: KBCraig on December 07, 2011, 02:17:59 AM
I think having live unstaged music would add a lot to the park.  No need for a start time or amp system or even a playlist...just some good old ozark pickin' and singin'  Much like homestead pickers but all over the park and without a set show time.  They used to do that with musicians sitting at a booth as you walked out of HH on the right side before you got to E&D's bakery.

That's how it used to be, all over the park.

When the park was much smaller (I'm talking about 35-40 years ago), there were multiple "stages-that-aren't-stages". They were just places under the trees, sometimes with hidden electrical outlets and speakers, where acts ranging would play 45 minute sets, then rotate. All day long you would see musicians walking around the park with instruments, and as soon as you got out of earshot of one act, you would start hearing another.

I really miss that.
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Post by: Junior on December 07, 2011, 08:04:53 AM
KB...I miss those old days, too. I remember the music tower at the lumbercamp, music in the Valley Theater, the old gazebo, the old theater in the woods...on the porch at the pottery shop, and various other places. I remember the bands that played in the morning and late afternoon at the hospitality house entrance. On rainy days the band would play in the area in front of the fireplace in the HH. Also, the park used to pump recorded bluegrass music throughout the PA system. I don't know how many people approached me, asking where the band was, or where they could by a recording of that music.
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Post by: rubedugans on December 28, 2011, 10:51:24 AM
I made it out to my secret spot again, and came home with a few good itema, and one GREAT item! 5 p/cs of table rock dam, and a postcard folder of Marvel & Talking Rocks Cavern. There was an older view from inside the wilderness church looking out, but I passed on it since I already have that one. There were also about 8-9 SOTH p/cs that I also passed on . My gem of the day was get this...a genuine, original....SDC Fan!!!! it is a handmade at SDC (according to the silver sticker) cardboard fan on a wooden handle. It is the print of traditional bag design, and I cannot recall when or where these would have been offered. We had an idea that they might have been offered during echo hollow performances, or at the general store/ hospitality house, but no clue. The fan shows signs of age, but with the "handmade" sticker adheared to the fan, I see it as being from between the mid 80's -early 90's.
Front:
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture001-2.jpg)
Back:
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture002-1.jpg)
Postcards:
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/Picture003.jpg)
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Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on December 28, 2011, 01:13:20 PM
some people are blessed with winning the lotto. some are blessed with amazing talent. you dear sir are blessed with finding great SDC treasures. (lucky duck!)
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Post by: rubedugans on December 28, 2011, 01:16:30 PM
I spent a whopping $5.25 on all that stuff! The fan was the cheapest @ $1.25! Postcards of the dam amounted to $0.35 ea. and the folder of the caves was the priciest!
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Post by: tiffanylynnt on December 28, 2011, 01:45:38 PM
I am really jealous! I never find anything like that!!
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Post by: rubedugans on December 28, 2011, 01:57:36 PM
Tiff the Meramec Caverns stein is still there for $3! but I can't divulge the location of the store!!!
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Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on December 28, 2011, 02:30:39 PM
I stick my tounge out at you rube.  :P
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Post by: sanddunerider on December 28, 2011, 04:38:21 PM
another great set of finds rube!!
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Post by: Junior on December 28, 2011, 06:13:06 PM
Rube, the fan was sold in the Hospitality House and Ozark Marketplace in the late 70s/early 80s when I worked out there. I seem to remember they sold for somewhere between fifty cents and a buck or a buck and a half, so you really got a bargain!
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Post by: tiffanylynnt on December 28, 2011, 06:24:20 PM
I stick my tounge out at you rube.  :P

Yeah! I do too!!
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Post by: rubedugans on December 28, 2011, 07:48:33 PM
Very cool, thank you for the info on it. I knew it was a good deal, and you all know I cannot pass up an SDC item!
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Post by: mlmt on March 11, 2012, 09:25:58 PM
My Aunt Virginia Lieuallen Petett used to tell about when she was going to the School of the Ozarks in High School (yes, they had a high school there) they would go to Marvel Cave for a school picnic.  There was nothing there, but a hole in the ground and a ladder to climb down and fire torches to guide them.  She died in 2007 at 99 and a half years old.

I remeber going there once before SDC was built and then the next year the front street was there and the Wilderness Church.  The highway actually cut through between the front street and the church.  You had to walk across the highway to get to the church, but there wasn't much traffic back then.  This would have been I'm guessing the late 1950's.

We attended church on Sunday morning there when we went to the park.
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Post by: rubedugans on March 11, 2012, 10:35:46 PM
I have been stocking up all winter...now I have about 15 more items!!!
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Post by: rubedugans on March 30, 2012, 10:39:34 AM
I came across a desk organizer at goodwill yesterday with a great mark on the bottom...too bad it was broken (missing the last of the dividers and still was $3.00!)
What do you think...too much for this? I mean I could buy a cedar plank, cut it to size, sand it, varnish it, and put it into place...but that's alot of work for this!

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/photo-9.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/photo1.jpg)
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Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on March 30, 2012, 01:28:43 PM
That is a fun find!! You stinker. I will find your hunny hole! I see this one is from goodwill!!
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Post by: Ozark Outlaw on March 30, 2012, 11:06:34 PM
Nice catch! Another piece of Ozark history in your hands. Not too shabby for the same price as a couple of Sarsaparillas. 
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Post by: Junior on March 31, 2012, 07:13:18 PM
The price tag on the bottom says "Goodwill" but there are how many Goodwill locations in the St. Louis area? We will find that honey hole, Rube! Watch out!  ;)
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on March 31, 2012, 09:39:45 PM
Well to be honest I search 3 GW Stores that are all within about a 15 mile radius of me about once a month. I rarely find anything great SDC related, usually a few Branson things though if I am lucky, sometimes I buy, this time I didn't because of the damage, and well I have no use for it! If ya'all want it I can pick it up and we can have a swap meet!
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Post by: Ozark Woodcarver on April 04, 2012, 08:41:14 PM
Speaking of way back, I was browsing page 1 - waaaayyyyy back in this post and happened across the MWA picture.  I'm wondering if it could be from the organization of the Modern Woodmen of America insurance company (founded in the late 1800 's).  I have attached a link to their history page, and there is an office on Hwy 160 in Forsyth, MO.
 ???

http://www.modern-woodmen.org/AboutUs/History/Pages/The%20Story%20of%20Our%20Name.aspx
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Post by: rubedugans on April 04, 2012, 08:54:54 PM
Hmm...that is a very real possibility...I will have to look into that.
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Post by: Junior on April 04, 2012, 09:02:52 PM
Ever go into an old, old cemetery and see headstones that look like logs or fallen trees? Those were for people who had an insurance policy with Woodmen of the World. The headstone was a death benefit. The company allowed local stone carvers to make the headstones, that is why there is such variety. The headstones are a form of folk art.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on April 04, 2012, 09:06:03 PM
Well I'll be! I found a similar pose to this one that is from 1909 with the same MWA axe pose, and the similar hats to a few of the gentleman.

"Drill teams
One of the most visible elements of the organization was its drill teams. These groups came to be known as Foresters and became well-known in America. The first drill team was organized in Hutchinson, Kansas, in 1893;[6] these groups became nationally known for events held from 1890 to the late 1930s. Each group was differentiated by a different style and color of uniform. "
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on April 05, 2012, 08:10:38 PM
I got 4 more postcards this week that I had never seen before, and one AMAZING piece that is going to take a little work before any sharing takes place.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on April 12, 2012, 11:12:09 AM
Dang eBay....I got what I thought was my AMAZING purchase...and unfortunately I was sent the wrong thing by the seller. It was an honest mistake, and hopefully It will get resolved once I send him the wrong one back...boo.
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Post by: tiffanylynnt on April 12, 2012, 11:18:43 AM
Dang eBay....I got what I thought was my AMAZING purchase...and unfortunately I was sent the wrong thing by the seller. It was an honest mistake, and hopefully It will get resolved once I send him the wrong one back...boo.

That's happened to me before. Really annoying.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on April 17, 2012, 10:14:21 AM
After looking into the seller on the internet, I found him, and this isn't the first mention of this happening. Mine showed up yesterday a bit worse for wear, but at least I have it. More to come once I get my mind wrapped on how to conserve this piece for my collection...I know pretty cryptic huh? Hopefully it pans out to be everything that I hope for!
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Post by: rubedugans on May 10, 2012, 12:40:03 PM
Ozark Gal spurred me to fire up the old machine to see what we could find...

The Pazazz cards were a great piece in the same era as the kids books, with several of the same illustrations.
The cards include the Blacksmith, The Wilderness Church, The Cave, The Float Trip, Capt. Dugan's Diving bell, the Candle Maker, The Candy Maker, The Soap Maker etc...Many great illustrations.
Here are the box graphics
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/PazazzCardGame-1.jpg)
and one image from a card...Now I know I am going to be asked...let me see this...or let me see this...I'll see what I can do!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/candy-2.jpg)
OOPS...it looks like I forgot to crop this one down... ;D Is that BetaMike? nah...no mustache for him...
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Post by: Junior on May 10, 2012, 03:22:07 PM
Well, you know I gotta ask...can you show us the diving bell card?  I see part of it above.
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Post by: betamike on May 10, 2012, 06:05:28 PM
Ummm...HEY!    ;D
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Post by: rubedugans on May 10, 2012, 07:44:04 PM
Sorry Beta I knew no one else from the candy store to connect that one to!

Junior I knew that would get someone! you mean that much of it isn't enough? It is a similar drawing to the one of the early 80's "wish you were here" books of the interior with the periscope. I won't be back at my desk for a few days so we will just have to eagerly await the image!
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Post by: rubedugans on May 24, 2012, 09:16:37 PM
Just stumbled across an antique mall next door to my hotel in Jeff City to find a treasure trove of postcards!!! The Wayback Machine has been restocked!

Oh and Junior when I get back home I'll post the diving bell card from he Pizazz deck for you.
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Post by: Junior on May 25, 2012, 07:18:40 AM
Ya gotta love those flea markets...and yard sales! All sorts of vintage stuff pops up!
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Post by: rubedugans on May 29, 2012, 12:07:20 PM
I said I would, so here it is...The card from the Pazazz card game that Junior just had to see. As you can see, it is a cropped version of a larger drawing that appeared one of the kids books.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/PazazzCardGame-2.jpg)
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Post by: Junior on May 29, 2012, 04:34:11 PM
Thanks Rube!
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Post by: rubedugans on June 06, 2012, 08:27:31 PM
Firing up the wayback and heading to good old 1970 (I was -10!!!)
We are headed to the Ozarks most talked about water attraction!!!
Sammy Lane's Pirate Cruise
The Newest Coast Guard Approved Excursion Boats on Lake Taneycomo
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/scan0019.jpg)
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Post by: WolfHunter on June 06, 2012, 08:40:02 PM
Speaking of way back, I was browsing page 1 - waaaayyyyy back in this post and happened across the MWA picture.  I'm wondering if it could be from the organization of the Modern Woodmen of America insurance company (founded in the late 1800 's).  I have attached a link to their history page, and there is an office on Hwy 160 in Forsyth, MO.
 ???

http://www.modern-woodmen.org/AboutUs/History/Pages/The%20Story%20of%20Our%20Name.aspx
It might just be
may just be
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Post by: Junior on June 06, 2012, 09:44:13 PM
I had a high school pal named Marty who was an employee of Sammy Lane Boat Cruises in the early 80s for a couple of years. He played the pirate that robbed the tour boats, and hung out at the old dock isolated down the lake where the boats turned back to Branson. The next year, he studied and got his pilot license and then was a pilot or captain of the tour boat itself. As a 15 year old kid, I remember hearing the pirate cannon on Taneycomo discharge about twice an hour. I lived on Eiserman Street in Branson, just about three blocks from the lake. Thanks for sharing Rube.
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Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on June 07, 2012, 09:16:22 AM
One of these days yall I will be living near the lake......chillin and making memories. As soon as I am done with school and practicing and saving money and maybe by the time I am 60 I will......ugh...
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Post by: Ozarks Gal on June 07, 2012, 09:21:24 AM
Anyone know when the Pirate Cruise stopped running? Was it still going in the early 90s? I seem to remember those brochure pictures, just wanted to make sure they weren't false memories.
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: Junior on June 07, 2012, 03:21:10 PM
I think the pirate cruse ended about the time downtown was bought, stripped and changed into Branson Landing. You know that Mang Field, the historic ball field there was a training field for the Cardinals and Royals long, long ago? Gone with the wind, baby! Progress in the shape of a shopping mall.
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Post by: rubedugans on June 18, 2012, 08:53:28 PM
Gone with the wind huh Junior? I thought that attraction was up the street from the landing!
Title: Re: The Wayback Machine
Post by: rubedugans on June 18, 2012, 08:58:05 PM
Who wants to head back to 1970 with me? Make sure to have your pathfinder filled out before you get to the turnstyles!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/pathfinder.jpg)
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Post by: Junior on June 19, 2012, 04:54:07 PM
Great scan, Rube! I have not seen this one before. Could you scan the inside/back side of this? What other goodies can you post from mid-70's backward? More, please!
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Post by: rubedugans on June 20, 2012, 10:06:40 PM
It is much the same info from the inside of the Ozarks Magazine from 1970 (The one with Elly May, Granny, and Shad) Here is the back cover (the inside is a fold out map)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu218/rubedugans/scan0017-1.jpg)
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Post by: Junior on June 21, 2012, 07:46:54 AM
Thanks, Rube! :)
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Post by: DollarCityBoy on June 21, 2012, 08:39:45 AM
"Marvel Cave remains open 364 days of the year, closed only on Christmas."

That's interesting.
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Post by: psychosaw13 on January 12, 2015, 06:18:20 PM
I just spent 2 & a half days reading this thread between work & sleep.
I don't want it to end! I have had the best time ever reading this one.
There was a post in there about FITH having car seats in the cars for the youngsters. I don't think anybody answered that one.
I remember them but i don't know what year they quit using them.