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Title: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: sanddunerider on February 07, 2019, 08:48:05 AM
I will be staying with KD again this weekend..

I have not been able to lock down another motel yet.. The previous one I had made "arrangements" with went through 3 managers in 4 months, Now I cant get the newest one pinned down..

I am meeting with A rep from Elliot Lodging this weekend.  They are locally owned out of Springfield, and ised to own Home Stay, where we started..

KD obviously has not decided to move on yet..  I will be talking to her about that this weekend also.

The current owners have extended our discounted rate to us for 2019. So for now, since KD is still there, until I can get different arrangements made. I will be there with her.

Sorry for the delay/confusion.  But it is amazing how many motels in Branson, are NOT Local American Owned, and that is what I am trying to get us back to..

Hopefully more info next week...

But for now call KD, I am dealing only with her and I am ignoring the owners..
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: Okiebenz on February 07, 2019, 05:33:30 PM
Have you talked to Liberty Lodge that is right across the street?  We stayed there once last year and in talking to the owner I recall I think they bought it recently at that time and the guy was a veteran.  It seemed to be clean and a decent place.  Anyway, that is all I know just thought I would pass it along.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: biscuitcreek on February 08, 2019, 07:14:15 PM
Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: biscuitcreek on March 09, 2019, 10:06:41 AM
I overlooked this thread so posted in the other one. K.D.'s last day at Classic was March 8. She is going to work at the Hughes Brothers Music Show.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: Gilligan on March 09, 2019, 02:30:46 PM
Good for her!
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: sanddunerider on March 10, 2019, 06:57:39 PM
Good news for her, she does indeed start working with the Hughes Brothers on Monday.. 

In fact, her new position is Mrs. Hughes Personal Assistant ;D.   

Shes gets regular hours, vacations, personal days, time off, you know, real benefits..!!!... like a regular job...!!   

CONGRATS TO HER!!!...

As you all know, I have been trying (with little success) to get us set up at a new motel, since Classic was purchased last JUly..   Lots of fake promises, dodged emails and meetings...  In a nutshell here is what I have found....

American Eagle and Inn.  Met with them, positive response  then no answers to email or phones..! :(

Willow Tree Inn,  Not interetsed, they have been through 4 general manages and 2 assistant mgrs in the last 4 months... :o

Econo Lodge-  seemed initally interested, but follow up through emails with distrct and meetings with the general manager, nobody will make a decision..!! ::) VERY frustrating to me

Hall of Fame, although they will work with us throughout the year, They cant commit to having rooms available through the summer due to contracts with other groups.  BUT we can call them..

Classic has agreed to honor our price rate. I have serious concerns about the overall servcie we may get without her "controlling" them.
For now, we will be staying with Classic.....
Suggestions:  Call ahead and verify your reservations...
                     When verifying your room, and/or checking in,  MAKE SURE YOU VERIFY YOUR ROOM RATE..!!!
                     I know it is a pain. !!  BUT i gaurantee these guys will screw it up.!!
                     If you need coffee pot, you will need to remind them.. :-\

I am sorry we have to put up with this nonsense, but the rate is good, and we all like the location... So just stay on them, and make sure they do what they are supposed to be doing...

I will continue to look for a different motel.
 
In fact K.D. did tell me that after she leaves Classic, she will help me with another possible location on SOTH.  They are still American Owned, and K.D. knows them fairly well....

So maybe that will work out...



Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: palallin on March 11, 2019, 09:04:12 AM
Hooray for KD!!!!!

Thanks for the heads-up.  We have a room this Friday; I'll get my wife to call and check up on them to verify all is well.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: palallin on March 18, 2019, 10:12:04 AM
Well.

On the way down last Friday, my wife called to confirm our reservation.  Surprise:  it didn't exist.  Blame placed on KD.

SDC fans special rate?  What's that?  Is that the AARP?

*sigh* 

My wife was able to secure a room--they were NOT busy and at a rate not too much higher than the previous one, but I can make NO promises to anyone else at any other time.   I get the distinct impression that our rate will be based entirely on projected rooms available. 

And, if you had a reservation made prior to 3/8, I strongly suggest that you give them a call before arriving so that you can negotiate some kind of room.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: biscuitcreek on April 10, 2019, 08:43:13 AM
FYI -- if you have been using the 1-800 number to make reservations, it has been disconnected. The number is 417-334-6991.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: palallin on April 10, 2019, 09:10:25 AM
Monday, my wife set up a reservation for this Friday.  It took her a while to get the person on the phone to understand what she was talking about with the rate, and I don't think we  actually got the rate we did just a few weeks ago, but it's still not bad.

It has been said elsewhere that the actual charge seems to vary quite a bit--probably dependent upon who is on the line.  I think we are paying $57 (w/ tax) for the three of us this time.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: biscuitcreek on April 14, 2019, 01:44:18 PM
They tried to charge a higher rate when my husband made a reservation last week. He said, no, that's not what I have been paying. He gave them the rate we had been paying, and they honored it.

In the whatever category, we were watching TV there Thursday night, and the cable went out around 11:15 and was still off the next morning. The message on the screen said no signal. The person at the desk was not concerned when we reported it when we checked out.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: sanddunerider on April 14, 2019, 03:59:07 PM
He said, no, that's not what I have been paying. He gave them the rate we had been paying, and they honored it.

 The person at the desk was not concerned when we reported it when we checked out.

Yes, I know.. if you tell them the rate they will honor it.. OR has so far.

"not concerned",  yep! That seems to be the problem... >:( >:(

We were told today that the lower room out back would not be available Memorial weekend,  Remodel or something... >:(

Question?   Who in the Hell closes down a third of their Motel for remodel on 1 of the 4 or 5 biggest weekedn of the year... >:( >:(   

THE Morons!!!!!!...
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: DollarCityBoy on April 15, 2019, 09:24:10 AM
What I am wondering is why everyone is still going to the place?! Is it strictly the "deal" they are (or sometimes are) offering? It's certainly not the service...so why keep going back? KD isn't even there any more...so why give business to a place that obviously sucks and who's owners don't care??

My family gave Homestay Inn/Eagles Lodge a lot of business over the years for two reasons. 1. It was a great deal, and 2. Paige was a wonderful host who CARED about her facility AND her guest.

Anyway...just my 2 cents on Classic Motor Inn.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: palallin on April 15, 2019, 09:46:03 AM
Things went smoothly enough for us on Friday; with taxes and al, the charge was $56.04, which I think was a little higher than it used to be, but my memory may be failing. 

Since we like to eat at Mollies, we haven't tried the breakfast this year yet.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: palallin on April 15, 2019, 09:50:29 AM
Why stay?

Good question!  I am not at all committed to CMI; however, I do like the location, and I am familiar with it.  We rarely get to Branson much before 10 pm, ad we leave the motel by 8 am.  I don't have time to fish for a new to fish for a new place to stay.  I have been VERY grateful to the groundwork that has been laid for that reason.

Rate and location are more important to me than just about anything else (assuming we're talking clean and safe).  So we return out of convenience, but I will happily move my business (such as it is), but I don't have anywhere to move to yet.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: Runner1960 on April 15, 2019, 03:10:58 PM
What I am wondering is why everyone is still going to the place?! Is it strictly the "deal" they are (or sometimes are) offering? It's certainly not the service...so why keep going back? KD isn't even there any more...so why give business to a place that obviously sucks and who's owners don't care??

My family gave Homestay Inn/Eagles Lodge a lot of business over the years for two reasons. 1. It was a great deal, and 2. Paige was a wonderful host who CARED about her facility AND her guest.

Anyway...just my 2 cents on Classic Motor Inn.

That is kind of what was going through my head also. But, I prefer a Condo or Air BNB so I never stayed there anyway. 
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: sanddunerider on April 15, 2019, 04:11:00 PM
What I am wondering is why everyone is still going to the place?! Is it strictly the "deal" they are (or sometimes are) offering? It's certainly not the service...so why keep going back? KD isn't even there any more...so why give business to a place that obviously sucks and who's owners don't care??

My family gave Homestay Inn/Eagles Lodge a lot of business over the years for two reasons. 1. It was a great deal, and 2. Paige was a wonderful host who CARED about her facility AND her guest.

Anyway...just my 2 cents on Classic Motor Inn.

Agreed with all the above..

But The rate is good, I like the location of motel. ( of course that is just of the reasons I chose it initially).   I dont like the owner/manager, BUT as long as rooms stay "clean", and the rates dont change, I will be staying there..  UNTIL I can find another location,
BUT with the season already started now,
I dont see that happening until next fall.. 
But maybe with some of K.D's help, we will find/figure something out
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: Okiebenz on April 15, 2019, 06:39:12 PM
The last couple of times we have not stayed at one of the Hilton properties we stayed at the Honeysuckle Inn which is right next door to the Imax.  Price is just a few bucks more than the classic rate was supposed to be but the place is a lot nicer.  They have a much better breakfast and they have a nice indoor pool and hot tub area.  I think it was about $60 with tax and everything Saturday night.  I wonder if those folks would be open to a group deal for us.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: sanddunerider on April 16, 2019, 09:31:53 AM
The last couple of times we have not stayed at one of the Hilton properties we stayed at the Honeysuckle Inn which is right next door to the Imax.  Price is just a few bucks more than the classic rate was supposed to be but the place is a lot nicer.  They have a much better breakfast and they have a nice indoor pool and hot tub area.  I think it was about $60 with tax and everything Saturday night.  I wonder if those folks would be open to a group deal for us.

I dont know, Maybe?    I didnt talk to them when we made the move from homestay to Classic..

I used to stay there also, Great Breakast, INdoor pool is nice, rates were comparable, but then they become owned by "other " people, thats when I moved to Homestay..

But now since about 90% of the lodging there is no longer American Owned,   Maybe I should talk to them. ?? :o :o
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: sirwillow on April 16, 2019, 09:53:01 AM
Check with Ozark Valley Inn, just a couple of doors closer to the zoo.  Still American owned, not far off of the price range already, and we really liked it the last time we stayed.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: sanddunerider on April 16, 2019, 11:10:54 AM
Check with Ozark Valley Inn, just a couple of doors closer to the zoo.  Still American owned, not far off of the price range already, and we really liked it the last time we stayed.

Thats correct,
KD knows that manager and is supposed to get us in the front door.. 
I will send her a message abotu that.. 
I know she has been busy with new job...

thanks, sirwillow
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: Okiebenz on April 16, 2019, 06:16:13 PM
While we were driving over there last week the wife was on her phone and somehow came across a website or something that has several of the motels in Branson were for sale. Since I was curious I googled and came up with this.  I wonder if any of these are currently American owned and may soon not be.  Maybe we should all chip in and by one of them

https://www.loopnet.com/missouri/branson_hotels-for-sale/
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: sanddunerider on April 16, 2019, 07:32:09 PM
While we were driving over there last week the wife was on her phone and somehow came across a website or something that has several of the motels in Branson were for sale. Since I was curious I googled and came up with this.  I wonder if any of these are currently American owned and may soon not be.  Maybe we should all chip in and by one of them

https://www.loopnet.com/missouri/branson_hotels-for-sale/

There is a little motel on 265, I thought would always be a nice palce to won.. 
IF you really wanted to,
good location, quiet, 20-25 rooms it looks like.. easy to maintain and handle...
IF you really wanted to..  LOL
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: KBCraig on April 17, 2019, 09:11:17 PM
Why the concern for "American owned"? And how do you define "American"?

If the service is good, the citizenship or national origin of the owner shouldn't matter. And if it's not good, it still shouldn't matter.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: mhguy77 on April 18, 2019, 08:18:46 AM
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Why the concern for "American owned"? And how do you define "American"?

If the service is good, the citizenship or national origin of the owner shouldn't matter. And if it's not good, it still shouldn't matter.

I could recommend (but will not) some hotels that would make you change your mind.  In Branson!
Its a culture thing, most of the time other cultures are not practiced in maintaining the standards we are used to in our hotels.  It is what it is.   If you ask if its American owned and they lie to you you have a good idea what you are in for.  I believe they often buy businesses without the proper capital it takes to maintain, they are milked for every bit of life they have in them and end up like the hotels along 76.   When you have been burned for good money you begin to distrust the situation.  You cant complain, comment or try to work out a problem when the person you are arguing with doesn't understand what our standards are.  Please take a moment to consider what has occurred at the Classic....We were standing customers there and probably pretty permissive with errors and shortcomings with the owners because of our special deal.  Now we are unable to secure a room and trust we are being charged the proper rate without earning it through extended debate.  They are unable to play by western business standards like a verbal agreement that netted the previous owners 40-50000 a year!!   This is why people dont want to bother, when you are on a trip it is for enjoyment and this type situation is in conflict with my relaxation.
   
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: sanddunerider on April 18, 2019, 10:14:12 AM
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Why the concern for "American owned"? And how do you define "American"?

If the service is good, the citizenship or national origin of the owner shouldn't matter. And if it's not good, it still shouldn't matter.

I could recommend (but will not) some hotels that would make you change your mind.  In Branson!
Its a culture thing, most of the time other cultures are not practiced in maintaining the standards we are used to in our hotels.  It is what it is.   If you ask if its American owned and they lie to you you have a good idea what you are in for.  I believe they often buy businesses without the proper capital it takes to maintain, they are milked for every bit of life they have in them and end up like the hotels along 76.   When you have been burned for good money you begin to distrust the situation.  You cant complain, comment or try to work out a problem when the person you are arguing with doesn't understand what our standards are.  Please take a moment to consider what has occurred at the Classic....We were standing customers there and probably pretty permissive with errors and shortcomings with the owners because of our special deal.  Now we are unable to secure a room and trust we are being charged the proper rate without earning it through extended debate.  They are unable to play by western business standards like a verbal agreement that netted the previous owners 40-50000 a year!!   This is why people dont want to bother, when you are on a trip it is for enjoyment and this type situation is in conflict with my relaxation.
   

Overlooking the Cultural differences, since MH pretty well stated the obvious. :D

How about the Economics of the situations?.. ::).

IF a company or facility is owned by " non americans", then the Profit from that company is going somewhere overseas, this is a plain and simple fact.

Yes, I realize, you have local employees (maybe), and their wages. taxes, living expenses stay here. (in theory).

Thats assuming they are doing there taxes legit and keeping everything current,

I have heard of stories of overtime with no compensation, now worker comp, no insurance, and nothing is done because of foreign ownership.  If it gets too bad for the current owner, business is simply closed or resold to another Non american , then reopened under a different name/entity and it starts all over again..
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: Gilligan on April 18, 2019, 01:34:57 PM
^ what they said - and for the same reasons I'd prefer to buy American made products - I want my fellow countrymen to make the product and benefit from it.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: Okiebenz on April 18, 2019, 06:24:57 PM
Do we have any hard data on the amount of revenue our little group brings to one of those hotels on an annual basis?  Even the $42 rate seems like a great deal to each individual but I would think when you multiply that over all of our members that take advantage of it, it would add up to quite a sum over the year.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: mhguy77 on April 18, 2019, 08:40:10 PM
42.00 x 400 = 16800.00
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: sanddunerider on April 19, 2019, 07:02:05 AM
Do we have any hard data on the amount of revenue our little group brings to one of those hotels on an annual basis?  Even the $42 rate seems like a great deal to each individual but I would think when you multiply that over all of our members that take advantage of it, it would add up to quite a sum over the year.

In past years our "little" group has stayed up to and over 700 nights in a year, which of course would indicate over 28,000.00 dollars a year..  and then if you add in your friends you send, or my friends, or Mhguy's friends and so on. The room count could easily exceed the 900-1000 rooms a night. 35-40,000.00 a year in potential "income/Earnings". 
quite a number, considering all the motel has to do is take care of us..  LOL.  we do all the advertising and so on for them.
Thus my frustration when trying to pick another motel for us. Of course we have our "needs" also..  BUT for that kind of money.......  Pretty simple deal to me..

Thankfully I finally was able to talk to Ozark, and they agreed to work with us, They are very happy we are coming their way, and the meet our "qualifications"...
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: Runner1960 on April 19, 2019, 02:35:13 PM
Do we have any hard data on the amount of revenue our little group brings to one of those hotels on an annual basis?  Even the $42 rate seems like a great deal to each individual but I would think when you multiply that over all of our members that take advantage of it, it would add up to quite a sum over the year.

In past years our "little" group has stayed up to and over 700 nights in a year, which of course would indicate over 28,000.00 dollars a year..  and then if you add in your friends you send, or my friends, or Mhguy's friends and so on. The room count could easily exceed the 900-1000 rooms a night. 35-40,000.00 a year in potential "income/Earnings". 
quite a number, considering all the motel has to do is take care of us..  LOL.  we do all the advertising and so on for them.
Thus my frustration when trying to pick another motel for us. Of course we have our "needs" also..  BUT for that kind of money.......  Pretty simple deal to me..

Thankfully I finally was able to talk to Ozark, and they agreed to work with us, They are very happy we are coming their way, and the meet our "qualifications"...

This is quite a bit of revenue for sure. But, I have to wonder at 40 bucks a night if any real money was actually made ? If you add up all costs of a room, supplies, manpower, electricity, towels, marketing I doubt the owners are making a killing off a cheap rate. More likely they are just turning dollars over. I would gladly pay a extra 5 or 10 if it would help a local business stay a local business.  Motel rates are stagnant and probably why most places do not upgrade their facilities or cut services to survive.
I tend to stay in condos when I go so I do not take advantage of it anyway. Just asking the question or starting a conversation.
Whatever , The hard work you put into it is appreciated.
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: Okiebenz on April 19, 2019, 07:31:29 PM
Unless it is a busy weekend or something and the whole town is booked, the rooms we book on our special rate would most likely go unsold anyway so our $42 is better than $0
Title: Re: Classic Motor Inn - 2019 - K.D.
Post by: sanddunerider on April 19, 2019, 07:43:46 PM


This is quite a bit of revenue for sure. But, I have to wonder at 40 bucks a night if any real money was actually made ? If you add up all costs of a room, supplies, manpower, electricity, towels, marketing I doubt the owners are making a killing off a cheap rate. More likely they are just turning dollars over. I would gladly pay a extra 5 or 10 if it would help a local business stay a local business.  Motel rates are stagnant and probably why most places do not upgrade their facilities or cut services to survive.
I tend to stay in condos when I go so I do not take advantage of it anyway. Just asking the question or starting a conversation.
Whatever , The hard work you put into it is appreciated.
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I was told a long time ago by a motel manager...  The MOST expensive rooms.... are the "Empty" rooms..,

Likewise at the shows in town,  Most expensive seats.... are the empty ones..