SDCFans - The Unofficial Fan Site For Silver Dollar City
General Category => Branson Talk => Topic started by: sanddunerider on December 16, 2017, 08:32:23 AM
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Saw this today on another site,
http://bransontrilakesnews.com/news_free/article_e01cd7bc-e1d0-11e7-bebf-4ffd562cdf45.html
“The project will include an indoor water park resort having 350 guest suites, 100,000 square feet of indoor climate controlled water park, 55,000 square foot of outdoor water park and 30,000 square feet of meeting and conference space,” the overview reads. “Additionally, 215 Ozark Mountain cabins and 75 luxury RV campsites are also included to provide a broad array of lodging options.”
Be interetsing to see how far this project goes? IF at all...
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So, basically a Wisconsin Dells, Ohio, Poconos, Great Wolf Lodge, Pigeon Forge style resort in Branson.
It's what the area has been missing outside of the smallest examples that already exists. It would certainly book up during the Christmas and spring break seasons if it's a legit, well run one like Kalahari for example.
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Sounds like it could be a fun, neat addition. Isn't this the second such one proposed in the last several months? Or is this the same one that was in the news just a few months back. Should be interesting to see the artwork when/ if it comes out.
Their location as described sure left me confused though. It says: According to plans provided Thursday to members of a newly formed TIF commission, the redevelopment site is bounded to the east by Henning State Forest, to the south by Branson’s entertainment strip, to the west by a future four-lane loop highway and Table Rock Lake and to the north by Silver Dollar City.
Ummm, what? 76 to the south and SDC to the North? That doesn't exactly make a lot of sense since SDC is south of 76 and well past where it would be called the entertainment strip. I'm guessing the highway they are referring to is 265, but not exactly sure.
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Even bigger than Great Wolf Lodge... GWL Wisconsin Dells is 76,000 feet of water park space, and that's a pretty nice resort with a park to rival WW (not that it's hard to beat WW). This is going to be a big deal if it gets built.
HFEC is probably going to try to sink this project like they always do to keep out competitors, but if there is actual money behind this there's not much they can do. Yet again their conservatism is actually going to cost them. I doubt White Water is doing that well as it is, but this will easily put them under. Plus they loose even more potential for their own resort.
On the bright side though, this could force them to spend more on bringing White Water up to par, draw more people to Branson, and perhaps help nudge the state onward with finishing the highway project. It's about time Branson got some major, serious development again.
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@sirwillow:
I'm looking at a map, and if the "future 4-lane loop highway" is 465 to the west and the Henning Forest is to the east, I'm thinking the area in question is somewhere near Mutton Hollow?
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Sounds like it could be a fun, neat addition. Isn't this the second such one proposed in the last several months? Or is this the same one that was in the news just a few months back. Should be interesting to see the artwork when/ if it comes out.
Their location as described sure left me confused though. It says: According to plans provided Thursday to members of a newly formed TIF commission, the redevelopment site is bounded to the east by Henning State Forest, to the south by Branson’s entertainment strip, to the west by a future four-lane loop highway and Table Rock Lake and to the north by Silver Dollar City.
Ummm, what? 76 to the south and SDC to the North? That doesn't exactly make a lot of sense since SDC is south of 76 and well past where it would be called the entertainment strip. I'm guessing the highway they are referring to is 265, but not exactly sure.
The 4-lane would be 465 south, not sure how tablerock to the south, SDC to the north and the Forest works into play..? LOL
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Sounds like it could be a fun, neat addition. Isn't this the second such one proposed in the last several months? Or is this the same one that was in the news just a few months back. Should be interesting to see the artwork when/ if it comes out.
Their location as described sure left me confused though. It says: According to plans provided Thursday to members of a newly formed TIF commission, the redevelopment site is bounded to the east by Henning State Forest, to the south by Branson’s entertainment strip, to the west by a future four-lane loop highway and Table Rock Lake and to the north by Silver Dollar City.
Ummm, what? 76 to the south and SDC to the North? That doesn't exactly make a lot of sense since SDC is south of 76 and well past where it would be called the entertainment strip. I'm guessing the highway they are referring to is 265, but not exactly sure.
The other waterpark announced is the one Westgate is building next to Drafts on Shepherd of the Hills Expressway. Sitework has already started for that park.
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The Westgate one is tiny though... from what I recall it's more like an indoor pool with a couple extra amenities and a slide or two. This would potentially be an actual water park that would rival any competitor.
And yeah, it sounds like it will be down in the valley below SOTH and north of Celebration City... the actual Mutton Hollow area.
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There was a Shepard Of The Hills campground years ago in Mutton Hollow. It might take in part of that footprint. Whatever is done I hope they do not strip it and destroy the natural beauty.
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The Westgate one is tiny though... from what I recall it's more like an indoor pool with a couple extra amenities and a slide or two. This would potentially be an actual water park that would rival any competitor.
And yeah, it sounds like it will be down in the valley below SOTH and north of Celebration City... the actual Mutton Hollow area.
I believe the Westgate Facility is supposed to be 50,000 sf..
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More info from today's Branson Tri-Lakes News -- the road to the proposed resort would be a road by the Steak and Shake across from the old Celebration City.
http://bransontrilakesnews.com/news_free/article_0c806d5a-e4f1-11e7-967f-6fc1bd93f9ff.html
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More info from today's Branson Tri-Lakes News -- the road to the proposed resort would be a road by the Steak and Shake across from the old Celebration City.
http://bransontrilakesnews.com/news_free/article_0c806d5a-e4f1-11e7-967f-6fc1bd93f9ff.html
Sure looks like just down the road from Mutton Hollow. They've still got that same description in there late that makes no sense at all. If it's using the road by Steak and Shake, then it's going to be near impossible to have 76 to the south of it unless they dig a road under 76 and into that mountain there. I think whoever typed that up must have made a mistake and meant it will be south of 76, not the other way around.
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The Westgate one is tiny though... from what I recall it's more like an indoor pool with a couple extra amenities and a slide or two. This would potentially be an actual water park that would rival any competitor.
And yeah, it sounds like it will be down in the valley below SOTH and north of Celebration City... the actual Mutton Hollow area.
I believe the Westgate Facility is supposed to be 50,000 sf..
Yeah, but check out the similarly sized Westgate facility near Pigeon Forge. It's not just the floorsize, but how they build it. The Westgate version seems aimed at young kids.
Plus these things seem to scale exponentially after 50,000 sf or so. Just from browsing around at various water park resorts, the ones' over 70,000 sf seem to have a lot more slides and major features.
The location plan is interesting... going to have to find a larger version. I thought that road was supposed to be the terminus of the mountain highway?
$422 million is a mega project for Branson though. Let's hope this gets off the ground - could have a snow ball effect.
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Some scope is provided when one looks at the new Great Wolf in Colorado Springs that gas a 50,000 square ft indoor park and the new Camelback Lodge Aquatopia in the Poconos that is 125,000 Sq ft, then Kalahari answered that by expanding to 225,000. Wilderness at the Smokies is 60,000 for it's indoor section but it has the outdoor area as well.
But 100,000 can include some serious fun including
Water coasters ,flow riders , smaller wave pool, and funnel , Wave, bowl, racer and drop tube type slides.
It will be interesting to see the actual plans.
I will say that 350 ish rooms seem small for a park that size so they are surEly opening it to the public and not just for lodge stays so that is direct competition for HFE.
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Also, shouldn't this be in the Branson tab not Other Parks.
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The Westgate one is tiny though... from what I recall it's more like an indoor pool with a couple extra amenities and a slide or two. This would potentially be an actual water park that would rival any competitor.
And yeah, it sounds like it will be down in the valley below SOTH and north of Celebration City... the actual Mutton Hollow area.
I believe the Westgate Facility is supposed to be 50,000 sf..
Yeah, but check out the similarly sized Westgate facility near Pigeon Forge. It's not just the floorsize, but how they build it. The Westgate version seems aimed at young kids.
Plus these things seem to scale exponentially after 50,000 sf or so. Just from browsing around at various water park resorts, the ones' over 70,000 sf seem to have a lot more slides and major features.
The location plan is interesting... going to have to find a larger version. I thought that road was supposed to be the terminus of the mountain highway?
$422 million is a mega project for Branson though. Let's hope this gets off the ground - could have a snow ball effect.
The westgate facility is being built more for the condo/time share patrons. Consider it "Bragging" rights and advertisement. Although I am sure it will be open to public, at a premium cost..
I would also like to see a "map" of proposed new waterpark site, with floorplan of building and property usage.. LOL.. The description in news release, and what is actual in the area doesnt really match. :o :o
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Here's the latest from Branson Tri-Lakes on the proposed new waterpark near the Henning Conservation area. The proposal goes before the Branson TIF commission on Monday. The article has 2 drawings of the proposed park.
http://bransontrilakesnews.com/news/article_4504914c-1e4e-11e8-b837-7f13bab4f4c0.html
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Wow, getting a lot more excited now. It was already a huge deal, but these latest images are awesome. This could seriously be a game changer for Branson, and I know that's an over-used statement but it applies here. All these little things that we've been getting lately are cool, but they don't drive people here. This is a real attraction, one I would be excited to visit regularly.
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Here's the latest from Branson Tri-Lakes on the proposed new waterpark near the Henning Conservation area. The proposal goes before the Branson TIF commission on Monday. The article has 2 drawings of the proposed park.
http://bransontrilakesnews.com/news/article_4504914c-1e4e-11e8-b837-7f13bab4f4c0.html
It's like they have been reading my posts on here.
For years I've yammered on about a whitewater and snow flex combo park. The snow flex has somewhat happened, waiting for the part other than tubes and now this. This is a one up on PF/Gatlinburg.
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The commission approved the TIF 7 - 4. The proposal now goes before the Board of Aldermen. More details from KY3:
http://www.ky3.com/content/news/Future-of-446-million-Branson-water-park-goes-up-for-debate-475824183.html
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This will be a great draw/attraction for the Branson area, IF it goes through and is completed.
Depending on fees, this has the potential to put the hurt on WW..
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Awesome. Sounds like it has momentum. Would be unusual for the BOA to give them too much trouble.
I guess the Landing left a bigger stink than I realized. 23 YEARS with no tax? I guess Branson was a little more desperate back then. To be fair though, that was also a game changer and I think it saved that entire end of Branson. I go over there all the time.