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Title: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on September 06, 2017, 02:09:41 PM
This is your official thread to post updates and speculations dealing the 2019 operating season for Silver Dollar City properties in Branson, MO.

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Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on September 07, 2017, 06:13:46 PM
I certainly wouldn't guess at much in the way of new rides for 2019 at this point considering the colossal expenditure this year. I'd love to see another year of shows emphasis though.

Maybe, just maybe, we'll see something happen with the entrance widening/overhaul that we've been assuming has to happen any year now?
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on September 08, 2017, 10:12:06 AM
Maybe, just maybe, we'll see something happen with the entrance widening/overhaul that we've been assuming has to happen any year now?

I look for that to happen this winter. :-\ :-\     At least take down the wall and rework that part.   

I personally am hoping they dont take out the little "creek" area just inside the wall, maybe just a wider functional bridge or crossing of some kind ;D
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on September 08, 2017, 12:16:08 PM
Maybe, just maybe, we'll see something happen with the entrance widening/overhaul that we've been assuming has to happen any year now?

I look for that to happen this winter. :-\ :-\     At least take down the wall and rework that part.   

I personally am hoping they dont take out the little "creek" area just inside the wall, maybe just a wider functional bridge or crossing of some kind ;D

I agree that this will probably happen this winter.  They are essentially done with track installment on TT and have now moved onto integration with the park (through removal of structures and new additions which will start to pop up). 
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on September 08, 2017, 10:28:36 PM
That's not really the actual pinch point though. They need to either completely rip out and expand everything through the hospitality house or build the second pathway around the cave opening. Widening the plaza behind the big logo would just make it uglier without much benefit, if done by itself.
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on September 08, 2017, 11:27:50 PM
That's not really the actual pinch point though. They need to either completely rip out and expand everything through the hospitality house or build the second pathway around the cave opening. Widening the plaza behind the big logo would just make it uglier without much benefit, if done by itself.

Youre right of course.... hadnt thought that far in.... but right inside the turnstiles... people stop to put away their passes, wait on the kids, get the ESV's, pick up strollers, look at bakery..... that whole area is packed!!..

Then the bottleneck up by the cave entrance going through there... especially at christmas time!!

So really,  3 problem areas....    have to see what the PTB come up with... ;D
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on September 09, 2017, 09:59:16 AM
My idea is to.
1. Take out big logo
2. Reconfigure ticketing area to be booths and customer service (will exit back into plaza and won't be allowed to exit bay bathrooms anymore)
3. Turnstiles will be where big logo was located
4. Rentals / Trailblazer will be moved to old customer service
5. Old turnstiles, rental building, trailblazer/sbb buildings removed
6. Build additional pathway around other side of sink hole
7. Reconfigure cave set-up so Entrance and Exit are in same area.  Make that part of HH cave gift shop and waiting area.  Make entrance be off square. 
8. Remove the rest of HH that's not used for new Cave entrance
9. Make new entry arch to segue from newly reconfigured pathways around sinkhole to the city
10. Perhaps add a new "newspaper" building down in new entrance plaza with newsboys handing out maps (newspapers) and answering general park questions. 
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: marolinesdad on September 09, 2017, 08:57:06 PM
I like all of that except removing the HH.   Love that old building. 
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on September 09, 2017, 11:52:16 PM
I like all of that except removing the HH.   Love that old building.

It is no longer useful in its current setup.  It would also be in the way of the new walkway configurations. 
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: HumphreyHawk on September 10, 2017, 01:23:09 AM
My idea is to.
1. Take out big logo
2. Reconfigure ticketing area to be booths and customer service (will exit back into plaza and won't be allowed to exit bay bathrooms anymore)
3. Turnstiles will be where big logo was located
4. Rentals / Trailblazer will be moved to old customer service
5. Old turnstiles, rental building, trailblazer/sbb buildings removed
6. Build additional pathway around other side of sink hole
7. Reconfigure cave set-up so Entrance and Exit are in same area.  Make that part of HH cave gift shop and waiting area.  Make entrance be off square. 
8. Remove the rest of HH that's not used for new Cave entrance
9. Make new entry arch to segue from newly reconfigured pathways around sinkhole to the city
10. Perhaps add a new "newspaper" building down in new entrance plaza with newsboys handing out maps (newspapers) and answering general park questions.

The current rental area is a huge bottleneck....but I cant picture them moving it.  They have a huge storage area for the strollers/carts right behind the booth.  They can't move that into the little customer service shack.  A two secordary path though for people to take to avoid that would be great.
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on September 10, 2017, 05:59:53 AM
My idea is to.
1. Take out big logo
2. Reconfigure ticketing area to be booths and customer service (will exit back into plaza and won't be allowed to exit bay bathrooms anymore)
3. Turnstiles will be where big logo was located
4. Rentals / Trailblazer will be moved to old customer service
5. Old turnstiles, rental building, trailblazer/sbb buildings removed
6. Build additional pathway around other side of sink hole
7. Reconfigure cave set-up so Entrance and Exit are in same area.  Make that part of HH cave gift shop and waiting area.  Make entrance be off square. 
8. Remove the rest of HH that's not used for new Cave entrance
9. Make new entry arch to segue from newly reconfigured pathways around sinkhole to the city
10. Perhaps add a new "newspaper" building down in new entrance plaza with newsboys handing out maps (newspapers) and answering general park questions.

The current rental area is a huge bottleneck....but I cant picture them moving it.  They have a huge storage area for the strollers/carts right behind the booth.  They can't move that into the little customer service shack.  A two secordary path though for people to take to avoid that would be great.

So you're saying they can't build another storage area over at the new site? :o ???
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: HumphreyHawk on September 11, 2017, 09:52:55 AM


So you're saying they can't build another storage area over at the new site? :o ???
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That would be great.  I thought the sinkhole was right behind that shack?  I can quite picture how that shack is positioned currently.  I would have guessed they wouldn't have enough room.  I would have guessed a new building by the current bathrooms in the ticket building would be the best place for adding a new shooter place.  I think there a parking lot behind it that just could be used.

Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: chittlins on September 11, 2017, 11:47:39 AM
I like all of that except removing the HH.   Love that old building.

It is no longer useful in its current setup.  It would also be in the way of the new walkway configurations.

During the backups in there at Christmas time for the trams, I can't imagine how much gift taking goes on in there
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: Swoosh on September 11, 2017, 12:20:22 PM
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So you're saying they can't build another storage area over at the new site? :o ???

That would be great.  I thought the sinkhole was right behind that shack?  I can quite picture how that shack is positioned currently.  I would have guessed they wouldn't have enough room.  I would have guessed a new building by the current bathrooms in the ticket building would be the best place for adding a new shooter place.  I think there a parking lot behind it that just could be used.

I was talking about right next door to the current GR building.  There is the former wedding booking building that is no longer being used that could be bulldozed and the storage building could be built there.  The current GR building will have to be remodeled anyway to handle rentals and Trailblazer/Showlover passes. 

As for the bathrooms, That can be remodeled and expanded some into the area.  I was thinking the "Newsies" building could go in that corner off the back of the OM building -- it would be to your immediate left once you enter the new gates.

NEW LOGO AREA -- so I was thinking the log and axe could be moved to the planter area south of the Administration Building.  (so around the corner from the ticket booths - past the water wheel).  It would still be front and center that way and you would have the ability to get more of your people in the photos.

Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: HumphreyHawk on September 11, 2017, 02:49:19 PM
Those restrooms need some love....they aren't terrible but they need updated/expanded because they get slammed in the mornings and are one of the first 'attractions' on peoples to do list (especially those who have a few hours drive).  Wouldn't hurt to expand and modernize a place that is very 'first impression' sensitive.
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on March 16, 2018, 06:30:46 AM
I straight up asked about this while up there on opening day and was directly told by some pretty big names that the current entrance/exit will remain as it is. They explained to me that everything from the square to the ticket booths is considered as historical property that will be preserved. They are however in the planning stages of building a secondary entrance/exit. The old parking lot by Grand Expo being the likely future site. Not sure how that will work logistically with the trams/buses, but we will see.
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mhguy77 on March 16, 2018, 07:22:49 AM
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They are however in the planning stages of building a secondary entrance/exit. The old parking lot by Grand Expo being the likely future site. Not sure how that will work logistically with the trams/buses, but we will see.
In the 90's we used an entrance that was built into Shad's shack down next to the bathrooms at the red gold hall.  You could park in the employee parking and they had an entrance in this area.  It may have been for busses ext. but I remember using it because there was no line.  This would make sense when they are parking people down near Notch to funnel them in this way.  My only issue is this is prime real estate back there.  That parking lot is flat and needs almost no prep for additional expansion.  I would think they will soon fold this into the park.  Its close to 76 but if you consider what other parks have done near roadways (ToonTown and Tomorrow land in DL) You can effectively block the sights and the sounds of the road with buildings and a few trees behind them.  However, I don't know that is as much of a concern as it once was.
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on March 16, 2018, 08:51:22 AM
That would be interesting... it would indicate that they are looking to add parking somewhere on that side, even if it is a continuation of their satellite parking. 76 will need a major widening, and possibly a dedicated tram lane... or perhaps a monorail? Works for Alton Towers.

The current employee parking lot is probably the next lot that can be greatly expanded to lot 5 size. Or it would be the perfect spot for the resort.

That side of the park is the best expansion space though, so I'd prefer that they kept the entrance where it is and expanded it to include a pathway around the other side of the sinkhole. Reunion Hall could probably be sacrificed to the cause, but certainly not the mine/mill.

I'm not looking for much of anything to happen in 2019 though. They really spent their wad for the time being and need some ROI to recharge. Between the Christmas event, TT, and rebuilding the skillet area, it feels like they've already been spending more than usual.

Then again, they've got some serious momentum here...
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: HumphreyHawk on March 16, 2018, 04:09:01 PM
If they build a resort there and maybe have some type of public transport connection (Gondola's?) I could see a 2nd entrance.  Or some type of a VIP parking entrance?  They won't get buses/trams over there from the other lots without using 76.
Title: Re: SDC's 2019 Project(s) and Park Developments
Post by: mhguy77 on March 16, 2018, 08:35:40 PM
Don't they own all the way out to the apartments as well out in the woods beyond the train loop?  If you google maps you can see.  Some where on here they had  a"ownership" map.  I think there would be room for a resort and transport through the woods.