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Title: Magic Springs
Post by: shavethewhales on August 08, 2016, 05:00:14 PM
I finally made it down to Magic Springs last week. I posted a photo TR and review on TPR: http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=72237

Basically I was really impressed with how they fixed up the place, but man, most of the coasters need some work. Premier/CNL seem kinda like the house flippers of the amusement industry. They put a lot of work into general things and surface appearance, but don't take time to understand the underlying issues with the main attractions. I guess they kind of are property flippers though since they've been trying to sell them off for the right price.

I sure hope they keep Arkansas Twister around. That was half the reason for driving down there. It's a fun ride despite being absolutely crazy rough and shaky. It won't survive running like this for much longer though, so either it gets fixed up this off season or it gets the axe.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: chittlins on August 09, 2016, 10:50:27 AM
I finally made it down to Magic Springs last week. I posted a photo TR and review on TPR: http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=72237

Basically I was really impressed with how they fixed up the place, but man, most of the coasters need some work. Premier/CNL seem kinda like the house flippers of the amusement industry. They put a lot of work into general things and surface appearance, but don't take time to understand the underlying issues with the main attractions. I guess they kind of are property flippers though since they've been trying to sell them off for the right price.

I sure hope they keep Arkansas Twister around. That was half the reason for driving down there. It's a fun ride despite being absolutely crazy rough and shaky. It won't survive running like this for much longer though, so either it gets fixed up this off season or it gets the axe.

The Water Park is solid, news a new addition like a water coaster though .

The setting is nice

This park would be idea to try the small to medium Euro model that you are seeing at places like Toverland, Furup Sommerland, Plops de Panne and so on.

The summer concert series is a huge draw for this park as well as huant season and that's why I think you'll still see some dry side stuff. Otherwise, why put in the sky coaster to seasons ago for an upchange.

This would be a great park for solid but low cap rides like a Mack Custom Spinner or a Vekoma Family suspended or a small train Gravity Group coaster like Wooden Warrior or Switchback.

Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: coasterdad on August 09, 2016, 04:29:58 PM
I finally made it down to Magic Springs last week. I posted a photo TR and review on TPR: http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=72237

Basically I was really impressed with how they fixed up the place, but man, most of the coasters need some work. Premier/CNL seem kinda like the house flippers of the amusement industry. They put a lot of work into general things and surface appearance, but don't take time to understand the underlying issues with the main attractions. I guess they kind of are property flippers though since they've been trying to sell them off for the right price.

I sure hope they keep Arkansas Twister around. That was half the reason for driving down there. It's a fun ride despite being absolutely crazy rough and shaky. It won't survive running like this for much longer though, so either it gets fixed up this off season or it gets the axe.

isn't there woody the same one that used to be at circus world outside of Orlando?If it is that was the first coaster I ever rode in the 80s  when I was about 7 years old. and the one that started a lifetime love of all things coaster

Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: chittlins on August 10, 2016, 06:22:14 AM
I finally made it down to Magic Springs last week. I posted a photo TR and review on TPR: http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=72237

Basically I was really impressed with how they fixed up the place, but man, most of the coasters need some work. Premier/CNL seem kinda like the house flippers of the amusement industry. They put a lot of work into general things and surface appearance, but don't take time to understand the underlying issues with the main attractions. I guess they kind of are property flippers though since they've been trying to sell them off for the right price.

I sure hope they keep Arkansas Twister around. That was half the reason for driving down there. It's a fun ride despite being absolutely crazy rough and shaky. It won't survive running like this for much longer though, so either it gets fixed up this off season or it gets the axe.

isn't there woody the same one that used to be at circus world outside of Orlando?If it is that was the first coaster I ever rode in the 80s  when I was about 7 years old. and the one that started a lifetime love of all things coaster

Yes, I rode it when that park was Boardwalk and Baseball.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: chittlins on November 04, 2016, 08:01:52 AM
Got a new owner, an REIT based out of Kansas City bought CNL Lifestyle's theme and water park portfolio.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: chittlins on November 14, 2016, 10:12:06 AM

Water park shifts ownership Dec. 1
The Sentinel-Record
Monday, November 14, 2016
HOT SPRINGS -- Magic Springs & Crystal Falls Water and Theme Park's property ownership and corporate management will change hands next month.
Magic Springs will be owned by EPR Properties as of Dec. 1, according to the park's general manager, Steve Honeycutt. The company agreed to purchase the park from its current owner, CNL Lifestyle Properties Inc.
The park, run by Amusement Management Partners, will be operated by Premier Parks when the property changes ownership, Honeycutt said.


Despite the changes, the park's employees will continue to work in their current positions with the same rate of pay, Honeycutt said.
"It's really business as usual," he said. "We'll just have more resources available to us, and I'll just run the park like I always have."
The change of ownership is part of a $700 million aggregate investment by EPR Properties that includes the purchases of 15 attraction properties, a ski resort and five small entertainment centers, according to a news release.
"We are extremely pleased to announce this transaction, which is the culmination of a two-year process of disciplined underwriting, due diligence and negotiations," EPR Properties President and Chief Executive Officer Gregory Silvers said in the release
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: biscuitcreek on April 06, 2017, 06:27:37 PM
Update on the change of ownership of Magic Springs -- article is from Arkansas Business:

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/116339/kansas-city-reit-buys-magic-springs-theme-park
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: shavethewhales on April 06, 2017, 09:13:51 PM
Yup, from one REIT to the other, just like Darien Lake and Frontier City. The thing is that a change in ownership to a new REIT usually means fresh investment as they try to increase the value of the property vs. what they paid for it. Plus Premier has a fresh 40-year lease to base decisions off of.

So now that they are seemingly ready to double down on the investment, the question is still what will they do with what is left of the theme park? I'm still sure that the water park will be the focus, and i would not at all be surprised to see a new water coaster soon. I also think they will try to reach the water park further into the rest of the park to possibly connect with the oddly positioned water play structure.

I have this feeling that they won't actually abandon the dry side as much as some of us were thinking though. It would just remove too much value. Maybe it's just false hope, but I think they will invest in refurbishing the Twister. They did a good job with Wildcat at FC this year apparently. Perhaps they will bring in some cheaper end flat rides eventually as well, like a Larson drop tower and set of flyers.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: sdcfan88 on April 08, 2017, 12:12:29 AM
I'm guessing it would be unrealistic to think they would invest in their first B&M and RMC?
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: chittlins on April 27, 2017, 10:06:33 PM
The new owners are, for the first time in my recent memory, heavily advertising on NWA radio.

Interesting news from Six Flags may play into this new Reit's plans. One waterpark that was announced to be managed by Premiere is now going to be ran by Six Flags. A park they once owned. Manage these type of small parks to feed folks to the big parks via Gold season passes and a place to sell and/or relocate coasters for new ones at existing parks.

Magic Springs happens to have decent water side and plenty of need for some hand me down coasters/flats.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: Swoosh on April 27, 2017, 10:41:32 PM
The new owners are, for the first time in my recent memory, heavily advertising on NWA radio.

Interesting news from Six Flags may play into this new Reit's plans. One waterpark that was announced to be managed by Premiere is now going to be ran by Six Flags. A park they once owned. Manage these type of small parks to feed folks to the big parks via Gold season passes and a place to sell and/or relocate coasters for new ones at existing parks.

Magic Springs happens to have decent water side and plenty of need for some hand me down coasters/flats.

From what I have gleaned from different forums, it sounds like SF will probably make a bid for the Palace Corporate chain of parks (which is currently for sale) Here is their entire portfolio of the places they own. https://www.palaceentertainment.com/pick-a-park
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: sirwillow on April 28, 2017, 08:29:22 AM

From what I have gleaned from different forums, it sounds like SF will probably make a bid for the Palace Corporate chain of parks (which is currently for sale) Here is their entire portfolio of the places they own. https://www.palaceentertainment.com/pick-a-park

That would be, ummmm, interesting?  There's a number of parks there that don't seem to fit into Six Flags' normal portfolio.  Three Boomers and a couple of other FEC's, and several independant water parks.  Some of the smaller "theme" parks would also be curious additions.  Castle Park in Riverside?  Just have a hard time picturing that as a Six Flags run park.

Then there are the couple that I'm not sure I want to see Six Flags have their hands on: Idlewild, Lake Compounce and Kennywood.   it certainly would make me concerned about the future of a couple of the parks on that list.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: Swoosh on April 28, 2017, 05:48:12 PM
Well you have to read up on the actual acquisition.  Six Flags is looking for smaller parks to beef up their Gold Pass traffic to their already established bigger parks.  I agree that the FECs probably would be sold off - I could see Incredible Pizza picking them up as they've been expanding rapidly.  The aquatic parks could easily be sold off as well. 
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: shavethewhales on April 28, 2017, 08:02:22 PM
The thought of Kennywood coming under SF control scares me too... The chain has come a long way, but they are still cheapskates and I could certainly see them railroading any remaining historic charm to squeeze in more advertising, games, and cheap rides.

Fortunately it seems Magic Springs and FC are "safe". I use quotation marks mainly for Magic Springs, because who knows what the real plan is even now. I am glad they are pushing the park again. Perhaps this summer will show them what is worth truly investing in - depending on whether or not people show up and what they show up for.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: chittlins on April 29, 2017, 09:22:17 AM
The thought of Kennywood coming under SF control scares me too... The chain has come a long way, but they are still cheapskates and I could certainly see them railroading any remaining historic charm to squeeze in more advertising, games, and cheap rides.

Fortunately it seems Magic Springs and FC are "safe". I use quotation marks mainly for Magic Springs, because who knows what the real plan is even now. I am glad they are pushing the park again. Perhaps this summer will show them what is worth truly investing in - depending on whether or not people show up and what they show up for.

If the goal is to use the gold passes to feed the larger parks, more parks than in the northeast will be needed. And geographically speaking, magic Springs is  good spot. Like I said not too close but in the middle of Arlington and St. Louis with with Atlanta and San Antonio still doable. I imagine this would be to increase the near give away price of Gold Passes  and get them up to close to 100 dollars in instead of 55 to 65 dollars ( yes, darn cheap) they promo them for now. They likely figure a typical family may go to one of the other parks for that pass year year and isn't like me, and plan on exploiting the heck out of it.
(StL, America, Great Adventure, Atl, Arlington and San Antonio this year). If they can get folks that buy these parks passes to pay 80 bucks to 100 bucks for a gold, it's not really that much off a GA tix if they only get to one other. It's the lure of multiple parks that's the bait.

That one water park over in Cali they once owned, was announced as a Premier managed park by the same folks that bough Magic Springs and Frontier (it's an REIT so long term ownership ain't their thing, return on investment is)They yanked it and it went to Six Flags again as they once owned it.

The truth is that I own a little of SIX stock as part of a portfolio of theme park related stocks. If you had bought into Six and Cedar during the recession you have had made a killing. I cobbled it together about 3 1/2 years ago and still have done well.

Magic Springs has plenty of space to dump used rides, a Tony Hawk spinner would be a nice addition there.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: Kemotblue on May 03, 2017, 08:00:19 PM
I learned  a new perks and it's something new this season with any Premier Managed park is that you can visit any of their parks with you season pass for Free. It is a one time visit to each park.  Your season pass will give you unlimited visits to your home park naturally.    I have a Frontier City pass since it just down the street from me.  But I do plan on going to Elitch Gardens and Magic Springs this summer.  You know Get more bang out of season pass.    Here is the list of parks you can visit on your Season Pass this is my response from Frontier City when I FB messaged them.

  Hi Kevin! Your Season Pass will admit you into each of our sister parks one time. They include:

Wild Waves Theme & Waterpark (Seattle, WA); Magic Springs Theme & Waterpark (Hot Springs, AK); Waterworld California (Concord, CA); Myrtle Waves (Myrtle Beach, SC); Clementon Park & Splash World (Clementon, NJ); Darien Lake (Buffalo, NY); Elitch Gardens (Denver, CO); Nashville Shores Waterpark (Nashville, TN); Ocean Breeze Waterpark (Virginia Beach); Rapids (West Palm Beach, FL); Wet‘n’Wild Hawaii; Wet‘n’Wild Palm Springs; Wet‘n’Wild Phoenix; Wet‘n’Wild Splashtown (Houston, TX); and Wet‘n’Wild (Toronto, Ontario)
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: chittlins on May 04, 2017, 07:55:58 AM
I 'll remember this as I was looking to hit Elitch Gardens next year ad part of a greater Yellowstone trip. It includes visiting an old Celebration City Coaster that's 7,000 high now in Glenwood.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: shavethewhales on May 08, 2017, 08:31:46 AM
Thanks for sharing this tip! That might actually make it worthwhile for me to get a pass since I'll probably head down to MS sometime this year.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: sanddunerider on May 08, 2017, 11:46:50 AM
thats a great little bonus....    a free day to check out another location... ;D
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: Kemotblue on July 23, 2017, 06:41:50 PM
Monday Rachae and I ventured to Magic Springs. We used that new perk with our Frontier City pass. This goes for any Premier family of managed parks like this season a one time Free visit to any of their 15 other sister parks spread out across North America.
Magic Springs anything you heard bad about the park those people must be haters. This park is AWESOME!! It's not a true theme park. It's themeing is based on the mountains features of Arkansas. The Hot Springs area. They do it top notch the landscaping and how it's incorporated with the rides and the terrain of the area. It just stunning the Garden feel you get with this park. This park is two separate parks Magic Springs and Crystal Springs. Crystal Springs which is majority takes up majority of the park. Is a Top notch water park with quite a few way to get wet. They have a pool tucked away in just about any nook and cranny the area they use for a water park. Anywhere to High Thrill slides to leisure activity pool for different ages in your family. Well taken care and cared for water park.
The park we focused on because of our time restraint was the the dry side of the park Magic Springs the ride side. They don't have a large variety of rides. Their Coaster lineup packs a punch pretty decent for a small park. They do have a variety of rides available for all ages just not entirely a large quantity number of rides. We rode the coaster that was a given my favorite was actually Gauntlet I was wary about riding this coaster do to the fact Vekoma SLC have a bad reputation for being rough. I took the advice off online groups to keep your head to one side I chose laying my head on the left side of the restraint. It actually made the coaster fun to ride I didn't get my head jerked around like the people who talk negative about the ride. By doing that little tip the coaster was fun I warranted myself for a second ride. X Coaster: Now I've ridden numerous coaster in my life and for the first time in my life I was actually scared while I was riding. SO YES I LOVED THIS COASTER!!! What scared me is there is no seat belt your strapped in with a arm that wraps around your Torso. No over the shoulder restraints or seat belts. Your trust is in that arm holding you why you are upside down on the coaster. So yes I was scared knowing I'm a pretty hefty guy and was in the big boy seat. The coaster has a big boy seat for larger framed guests. It the very last seat on the right side of the car. So X coaster is a true Thrill ride and I highly recommend riding this coaster there is only two in the world the other one is over seas. The other 3 coaster Big Bad John great family coaster mine train that takes you out along the mountain side in the trees. Arkansas Twister really fun wooden coaster but sit in the middle your going shake it like a salt shaker while your zipping along the track. Then their is a Junior family coaster called Diamond Mine Run for a little coaster it has a fun little track they run you twice through. Very fun. So would give the park a 8 on a scale of 10 with their coasters.
The rest of the parks rides are pretty decent you have two water rides Plummet Summet a Hopkins Splash down and Old #2 Logging Co. Log flume ride. Hawk a Zamperla tomahawk style ride, Antique Cars, bumper cars, swinging boat ride, Carousel and handful of kids rides. The name still gets me with the log ride. When you put "#2" and "Log" in the same sentence just grabs my attention. LOL I didn't ride the Hawk just because Zamperla rides are not made for larger framed guests the computer from what I found out on Zamperla rides
limits are made for guests under 260lbs. They have seat censors. The Log Flume ride has a moving station is very handy I wish Frontier City would implement one in the off season. It helps move the line. The ride itself is fairly short log flume but it was extremely smooth Log flume ride. I didn't ride Summit Plummit because I'm not a fan of walking around the park with sloshy feet. The rest of the rides were nice I liked the gas powered antique cars the Ozark Taxi Co. Those were quick and I saw something Frontier City should do at their park with pallets in Renegade Rapids.
Operations at the park were a little slow but most of the time that was due to people not listening to the ride operators. They have the one who operates the board the other that works the queue line. The queue line person measures each child that is about to board making sure they are the correct height. Then that queue person goes over the coaster rules for each end of the coaster take a about 3-4 minutes. Then once your seated they check your restraints. That is where the slow down happens that park has a lot of GP that don't listen. So it gets interesting. At this park you cannot have any loose items on you No Sun Glasses, Glasses, Hats etc. on any of the rides. They either be left in the bins provided or left with a non rider. So there was a lot of times someone would have on their glasses or hats and the operators would have to start the loading process again with the rules. Every single coaster there was always that one person who mucked up the loading times. So there is a good chance you may have a 5-6 minute dispatch time. That is a lot of time.
The Park is beautifully landscaped it will drop your jaw how good the landscaping is throughout the park. You actually feel you have escaped reality it just amazing what they have done with incorporating the Wild native lands with rides and water attractions. Restrooms and over all cleanliness of the park it was a 10 the restrooms were clean and well kept the park was well maintained. Theme-ing of the park it was a 8 there is not one true theme it mainly based off the geographic area of the state. Overall visual of the park I give it a 10. Maybe a nine because there was a few confident folks who were proud of their bodies. Liked to walk around displaying what some wouldn't want to see...MORE power to them.
Last but not least staffing they were AWESOME...Very professional and friendly. Ride operators very interactive with the guests. I had an employee while we were walking asked how we were doing and offered to take our photo. They were not one of those park photographers to get your picture. Just a teen working one of the games.Speaking of photo booth operators we actually bought a ride photo at the log ride the guy was funny and very friendly and I liked to take candid photos. No boring photo with me. The food staff was what you would expect with any theme park they were professional but not WOW! The lady working one stand who was having trouble with her credit card machine suggested to get drinks at a nearby food stand.
Overall I would give the park 9 out of 10. I don't like to give a perfect score because Yes there is always room for improvement. They don't have much to do to be a perfect park. Hats off too Magic Springs
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: biscuitcreek on July 25, 2017, 06:47:35 AM
People were stuck on the X Coaster on Monday.

http://www.ktlo.com/2017/07/25/riders-stuck-on-arkansas-roller-coaster-rescued/

The article has a picture of the ride.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: Wildfire on July 25, 2017, 04:42:25 PM
I'm in Hot Springs for work and was planning on checking out Magic Springs this evening.  It's half price after 4.  This latest debacle with X Coaster changed my plans as it was the only coaster I was interested in.  Guess I will just have to go play slots tonight instead.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: Kemotblue on July 25, 2017, 06:16:22 PM
 That's a old photo of the coaster the ride in the lower right the tower ride was removed last season and sent to Wild Waves in Seattle.  Is this story from a reputable source the date and story can easily be changed.   
I'm in Hot Springs for work and was planning on checking out Magic Springs this evening.  It's half price after 4.  This latest debacle with X Coaster changed my plans as it was the only coaster I was interested in.  Guess I will just have to go play slots tonight instead.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: shavethewhales on July 25, 2017, 09:08:41 PM
X Coaster seems to get stuck from time to time... I think that is a major reason why they never sold many of these things. The others have also gotten stuck, and it's always a big media deal because you always get stuck at the very top upside down. Some people can actually get really hurt being stuck like that for very long...

I'm glad you liked the park though Kemot. Let's hope they add something for next year. It has some similarities to Frontier City, but with less than half the rides. I'd love to see something like a frisbee variant.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: Kemotblue on July 25, 2017, 10:14:30 PM
 Sorry, I saw the news reports on ABCnews. The photo the radio station showed is old the riders this time were stuck sitting back in a more comfortable position then being stuck upside down.  I've been stuck on coasters before I know every single park Large or small rides do get stuck. I know they get stuck for safety reason.  I saw an awesome video that came out from Warner Brothers Movie World this past spring.  I think every single news media outlet should watch this video.  Yes Shave!  I hope Premier Parks now having the parks they manage under new ownership with a more amusement Industry driven company in EPR adds decent attractions to their parks next season.  Here is the link to that video.  I don't know if It will share.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A5NEzeqGmk
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: biscuitcreek on July 25, 2017, 10:34:43 PM
Here are the other news reports from other reputable news outlets around the state of AR:

http://5newsonline.com/2017/07/25/riders-stuck-on-magic-springs-roller-coaster-for-nearly-an-hour/

http://www.thv11.com/news/local/x-coaster-stuck-at-magic-springs-for-nearly-an-hour-with-riders-on-board/459192469

http://www.arkansasmatters.com/news/local-news/riders-on-magic-springs-roller-coaster-stuck-for-one-hour/773399469
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: chittlins on July 26, 2017, 12:26:48 AM
X Coaster seems to get stuck from time to time... I think that is a major reason why they never sold many of these things. The others have also gotten stuck, and it's always a big media deal because you always get stuck at the very top upside down. Some people can actually get really hurt being stuck like that for very long...

I'm glad you liked the park though Kemot. Let's hope they add something for next year. It has some similarities to Frontier City, but with less than half the rides. I'd love to see something like a frisbee variant.

If I won a huge PowerBar jackpot and I needed a tax write off and bought Magic Springs here's what I would do. Add a water coaster tower for waterpark with an action/wave river around and through the base and new Style Vekoma Trains for the boomerang.
(http://www.amusementtoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ProSlide-HydroTornado.jpg)

But I'd set for this with the wave river around the base
(http://www.proslide.com/wp-content/uploads/bfi_thumb/rocketblast-flyingsaucer-30-six-flags-fiesta-texas-water-coaster-proslide-custom-water-rides-n9fx9fiykhobkpocwkahy4zglxv3hlyzjq22o7ksh8.jpg)



Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: Kemotblue on November 20, 2017, 03:33:30 PM
Magic Springs is adding a Larson Super Shot Drop tower 200ft. tall.  It will have some amazing views especially in the fall.  Glad they are investing back into the dry side of the park.  They need too after taking two of their rides out of the park back in 2016.  Glad they made this investment. 

Here is what they posted on FB this morning with two photos:

"Did you hear the news? Magic Springs is getting a new ride in 2018 - "Brain Drain". A 12 story tall drop tower ride. It's going to be awesome!"   
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: shavethewhales on November 20, 2017, 06:47:32 PM
That's great news. It means they are going to keep the dry side around after all. It sounded like they actually got some big crowds during their halloween event, so I guess the realized that there's some potential there after all. Now if we can get them to do some maintenance on the coasters the park would be worth traveling too again. I'll bet they will add a set of flyers for next year. Just a few flats will bring them back to a full park again.

I notice they hyped this up as the start of their "flash sale" for season passes, and FC has a similar flash sale starting next monday...
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: Kemotblue on November 20, 2017, 11:12:07 PM
It will be interesting yeah and I  agree some added flats to this park will help turn this park around. and Yes they do need to work on the coasters. Like get that second train on Gauntlet back in working order not just sitting on the track. I think along with Frontier City I heard they will also be doing a Holiday event at Magic Springs like what is being added at Frontier City.   Frontier City has a FB page that is either ran by somebody that works at the park or the park itself.  It caters to the Latin market in Oklahoma. The page main focus is on Frontier City but it does cover a lot of other facilities like the OKC Zoo, Myriad Gardens, Wheeler Ferris Wheel, State Fair.  This morning that page advertised the flash sale but the wording of the flash sales looks like they are going to make an announcement.  So I'm curious The FB page is called Aventuras Oklahoma .
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: chittlins on November 21, 2017, 08:08:11 AM
I see that GG coaster going to that small park in France for 3 million and it screams Magic Springs.

That Mack Compact extreme Spinning coaster with the turntable for two styles of train makes sense for a park like this because it offers three ride experiences in one. A spinning one, a regular train forward and a regularge train backward ride experience all with launch and inversions.

I think an on site hotel with a water park would do well especially during the horse racing and cabin fever seasons.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: shavethewhales on November 21, 2017, 02:10:47 PM
^That would be awesome, but I don't think they could get the ROI on a new coaster here, especially a junior coaster. Theoretically most of their clientele would love it, but that's not what drives people to the park.

A hotel could work here, but it would take more effort than MS is prepared to put into it. There are already so many hotels, especially cheap ones, in the area. Tourism to HS is turbulent and largely consists of people from in-state who aren't exactly rich. They need to focus on making the park a better destination first and foremost so they draw people to HS rather than piggybacking on HS's slowly fading draw.

They are taking thoughtful, albeit fairly cheap, steps at each park in the chain to increase revenue and attendance figures. They've already practically rebuilt most of these parks with cosmetic fixes and fixed infrastructure while at the same time boosting attendance with decent concert series at each park. They've slowly expanded the halloween events and introduced one for MS which was a success. Now they are expanding into Christmas and adding NEW rides again. I'm not sure how long it will take for them to get back to adding things that get us really excited (ie: coasters), but we can all be thankful that they saved these parks from ruin and are keeping them on the right tracks.

A couple more flats and a retracking of Twister and this park will be great again.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: Kemotblue on November 21, 2017, 06:05:03 PM
When I visited this past summer the park was very clean the staff was extremely friendly. Yes it did look like they spent money on infrastructure the buildings looked like they been cleaned up painted and refreshed.  The operations of the park was spot on the restroom were kept very clean while the park was fairly busy that is a plus when a small park has such good operations they can keep up with a busy day.   The eating places tables were cleaned up fairly quickly like the employees took pride in their job.  You still had a few but it was not anything I expected from trip reports I scene online.  It was way better then those reports. 
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: chittlins on February 18, 2018, 03:43:35 PM
^That would be awesome, but I don't think they could get the ROI on a new coaster here, especially a junior coaster. Theoretically most of their clientele would love it, but that's not what drives people to the park.

A hotel could work here, but it would take more effort than MS is prepared to put into it. There are already so many hotels, especially cheap ones, in the area. Tourism to HS is turbulent and largely consists of people from in-state who aren't exactly rich. They need to focus on making the park a better destination first and foremost so they draw people to HS rather than piggybacking on HS's slowly fading draw.

They are taking thoughtful, albeit fairly cheap, steps at each park in the chain to increase revenue and attendance figures. They've already practically rebuilt most of these parks with cosmetic fixes and fixed infrastructure while at the same time boosting attendance with decent concert series at each park. They've slowly expanded the halloween events and introduced one for MS which was a success. Now they are expanding into Christmas and adding NEW rides again. I'm not sure how long it will take for them to get back to adding things that get us really excited (ie: coasters), but we can all be thankful that they saved these parks from ruin and are keeping them on the right tracks.

A couple more flats and a retracking of Twister and this park will be great again.

This park is supposedly getting a Larson Drop Tower, cheap and quick I guess since there's a spot where the S&S was. It's significant that they are adding a dry ride.

I have also been following their Summer Concert announcements. Seems a little less diversified than year's past but all things considered, solid for a theme park fare.

Sister Hazer and Vertical Horizon

Queensryche, Warrant, and Great White

Granger Smith

Crowder

Martina McBride

Kansas

TobyMac

Foghat and Blue Oyster Cult (There goes Tokyo)

Seether

Skillet

Lauren Alaina

with three more to be annouced, looks like two nites of concerts for Labor Day.

A quick add for this park would be a Disko or one of those SBF Visa spinning coasters.


Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: Swoosh on February 18, 2018, 04:44:13 PM
They didn’t have an S&S Tower it was from ARM
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: chittlins on February 18, 2018, 07:14:22 PM
They didn’t have an S&S Tower it was from ARM

Well this seems to replace that one.
Title: Re: Magic Springs
Post by: Swoosh on February 18, 2018, 07:35:53 PM
Sorry.  I thought I was in the Frontier City thread.  The tower here was S&S.  My mistake