^^^^^
Calm down. Patience young padiwan. You won't know these things for quite some time. The speculation is the fun part.
I'm thinking Mack
What will it be? How will it be a first of its kind? Who is the company?
I don't remember who said it on here but they said later this season
There's a possibility that the new plaza for the coaster could be done for next year with a teaser sign saying coming in 2018, but that's just a rumor with nothing backing it right now
Joel Manby must have also loved Mack Rides... Cobra's Curse is a Mack spinner that just opened at Busch Gardens Tampa for 2016.
OMG. You just might be on to something there, Hatfield McCoy!
Personally, I'd love to see us get one of those X-axis/4D coasters. I've never had the opportunity of riding one before!
OMG. You just might be on to something there, Hatfield McCoy!
Personally, I'd love to see us get one of those X-axis/4D coasters. I've never had the opportunity of riding one before!
It's a Mack.
I know this sounds weird, but with my motion sickness I would not be able to ride a spinning coaster. Right now I can do all the rides at Silver Dollar City except for the tea cups, swings, electro spin, (a lot of the kiddie rides in Grand Expo) etc. anything that spins like they do. If this new attraction is a spinning coaster I'm afraid I won't be able to do it. I go from being excited about the new attraction to not. Hopefully it will be something I can ride.
I know this sounds weird, but with my motion sickness I would not be able to ride a spinning coaster. Right now I can do all the rides at Silver Dollar City except for the tea cups, swings, electro spin, (a lot of the kiddie rides in Grand Expo) etc. anything that spins like they do. If this new attraction is a spinning coaster I'm afraid I won't be able to do it. I go from being excited about the new attraction to not. Hopefully it will be something I can ride.
I know this sounds weird, but with my motion sickness I would not be able to ride a spinning coaster. Right now I can do all the rides at Silver Dollar City except for the tea cups, swings, electro spin, (a lot of the kiddie rides in Grand Expo) etc. anything that spins like they do. If this new attraction is a spinning coaster I'm afraid I won't be able to do it. I go from being excited about the new attraction to not. Hopefully it will be something I can ride.
I know this sounds weird, but with my motion sickness I would not be able to ride a spinning coaster. Right now I can do all the rides at Silver Dollar City except for the tea cups, swings, electro spin, (a lot of the kiddie rides in Grand Expo) etc. anything that spins like they do. If this new attraction is a spinning coaster I'm afraid I won't be able to do it. I go from being excited about the new attraction to not. Hopefully it will be something I can ride.
I'm right there with you on things that spin but like Swoosh said hopefully this one won't be that extreme and we can ride it. I had to give up Wildfire as well because of the continuous loops and cobra rolls. it's fun getting old :o
I know this sounds weird, but with my motion sickness I would not be able to ride a spinning coaster. Right now I can do all the rides at Silver Dollar City except for the tea cups, swings, electro spin, (a lot of the kiddie rides in Grand Expo) etc. anything that spins like they do. If this new attraction is a spinning coaster I'm afraid I won't be able to do it. I go from being excited about the new attraction to not. Hopefully it will be something I can ride.
The more I think about it, the more I think a "traditional" spinning coaster with extreme elements would be hard to market to SDC's demographics. I could see a smaller park trying to do something like that, but whatever this is will still have to be somewhat broadly appealing. Could still spin like a 4D coaster though. I don't have any guesses left at the moment, but I will be watching this year's IAAPA VERY closely.
I hope we get a GCI soon. I want them to make a coaster for SDC as awesome as Wildcat was. Ever since my first ride on it, I fell in love with GCI coasters.
It's a Mack.
looks more like a Peterbilt...
I know this sounds weird, but with my motion sickness I would not be able to ride a spinning coaster. Right now I can do all the rides at Silver Dollar City except for the tea cups, swings, electro spin, (a lot of the kiddie rides in Grand Expo) etc. anything that spins like they do. If this new attraction is a spinning coaster I'm afraid I won't be able to do it. I go from being excited about the new attraction to not. Hopefully it will be something I can ride.
I'm right there with you on things that spin but like Swoosh said hopefully this one won't be that extreme and we can ride it. I had to give up Wildfire as well because of the continuous loops and cobra rolls. it's fun getting old :o
I don't remember saying it won't be extreme. It'll actually be the exact opposite. This thing is rumored to be a record breaker.
I hope we get a GCI soon. I want them to make a coaster for SDC as awesome as Wildcat was. Ever since my first ride on it, I fell in love with GCI coasters.
Pretty positive that ship has sailed
How many inversions do you think it'll have? I'm guessing at least 7
I hope we get a GCI soon. I want them to make a coaster for SDC as awesome as Wildcat was. Ever since my first ride on it, I fell in love with GCI coasters.
Pretty positive that ship has sailed
That's quite unfortunate being a huge fan of GCI myself. I had always hoped SDC would get their version of Thunderhead. Are HFEC and GCI not on good terms after Wildcat got left to rot?How many inversions do you think it'll have? I'm guessing at least 7
If this is supposed to be an attention getter that steps on the toes of other parks in North America I'm betting 10 or 12.
Not saying the coaster won't be extreme but i was thinking you said it wouldn't constantly spin.
Not saying the coaster won't be extreme but i was thinking you said it wouldn't constantly spin.
Nope. This thing is going to be crazy. Maybe you were thinking of the Cobra's Curse discussion.
Smh
I'm lost here. lolSmh
Yup
Is he arguing with himself?I'm lost here. lolSmh
Yup
Lmao I think soIs he arguing with himself?I'm lost here. lolSmh
Yup
When I saw his post I was like ??? dafuqHahahahahahaha
It's a Mack.
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It's a Mack.
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Recorded. Good job
So something happened in the SDC Facebook group I'm involved with. They just made a post basically stating that any future attraction/speculation/ideas are to no longer be discussed no matter how vague it may be and violations could result in a banning. This is coming from someone claiming to be a park employee. So either they are about to make an announcement or there was a leak somewhere along the lines. Some members have apparently already received some cease and desist notices. Very odd to see such a crackdown on user content being posted regarding this subject.
What FB group are you talking about here? Is it an open group, I'd love to see this post?So something happened in the SDC Facebook group I'm involved with. They just made a post basically stating that any future attraction/speculation/ideas are to no longer be discussed no matter how vague it may be and violations could result in a banning. This is coming from someone claiming to be a park employee. So either they are about to make an announcement or there was a leak somewhere along the lines. Some members have apparently already received some cease and desist notices. Very odd to see such a crackdown on user content being posted regarding this subject.
I think it's called "You Know You're From Silver Dollar City If..."
After many hours of contemplation, I have come to the conclusion that future park improvements are not to be talked about on this page until they have been revealed to the public by Silver Dollar City. Thank you for your cooperation.
A lot of the posts have already been cleaned up or removed including the one that confirmed the coaster debuting in 2018. It also looks like my construction marker images were also taken down from what I can tell.
There was this statement that was also added.QuoteAfter many hours of contemplation, I have come to the conclusion that future park improvements are not to be talked about on this page until they have been revealed to the public by Silver Dollar City. Thank you for your cooperation.
Anyone at the city this weekend for updates?
Anyone at the city this weekend for updates?
Considering something major happened this week and it's still not out on the internet yet.. I'd say no.
Anyone at the city this weekend for updates?
Considering something major happened this week and it's still not out on the internet yet.. I'd say no.
Well, if you know what it is, you might have to be the one to tell us, 'cause I've done a search through Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook, as well as checking TPR's SDC thread, and I'm seeing no mentions of what happened.
So... what's up?
Can you not say what has happened at the park swoosh?
Anyone at the city this weekend for updates?
Considering something major happened this week and it's still not out on the internet yet.. I'd say no.
Anyone at the city this weekend for updates?
Considering something major happened this week and it's still not out on the internet yet.. I'd say no.
Was there Friday morning and most of the rides were shut down -- thought it was due to the thunderstorms and rain but even after the storm moved through and the rain ceased, most still weren't running. There was some flooding by one of the rides back in the GE. There were lots of unhappy people about the ride situation from all of the comments I heard around the park and on the trams. Options for things to do were somewhat limited since the Opera House is dark for this festival and the Cajun Connection had the day off Friday.
So what happened?
Anyone at the city this weekend for updates?
Considering something major happened this week and it's still not out on the internet yet.. I'd say no.
Was there Friday morning and most of the rides were shut down -- thought it was due to the thunderstorms and rain but even after the storm moved through and the rain ceased, most still weren't running. There was some flooding by one of the rides back in the GE. There were lots of unhappy people about the ride situation from all of the comments I heard around the park and on the trams. Options for things to do were somewhat limited since the Opera House is dark for this festival and the Cajun Connection had the day off Friday.
So what happened?
So the Glovetrotters in RGHH, Peter Gossamer in RFPH, Saloon, Sons of Silver Dollar at BW, and more wasn't enough when it was raining?
The park operates on a 5 mile (might be more) radius where there cannot be any lightning strikes for a certain period of time. Just because the storm may have "passed" if there is a strike in the halo area then the rides remain closed. Most parks do this.
Anyone at the city this weekend for updates?
Considering something major happened this week and it's still not out on the internet yet.. I'd say no.
Was there Friday morning and most of the rides were shut down -- thought it was due to the thunderstorms and rain but even after the storm moved through and the rain ceased, most still weren't running. There was some flooding by one of the rides back in the GE. There were lots of unhappy people about the ride situation from all of the comments I heard around the park and on the trams. Options for things to do were somewhat limited since the Opera House is dark for this festival and the Cajun Connection had the day off Friday.
So what happened?
So the Glovetrotters in RGHH, Peter Gossamer in RFPH, Saloon, Sons of Silver Dollar at BW, and more wasn't enough when it was raining?
The park operates on a 5 mile (might be more) radius where there cannot be any lightning strikes for a certain period of time. Just because the storm may have "passed" if there is a strike in the halo area then the rides remain closed. Most parks do this.
Love to see SDC build a taller swing ride. Like the one at Six Flags Arlington. It be an amazing ride with an amazing view.
Are we ever going to know what that major happening was?
All that for removing the Hi-Striker? Seems like overkill to me.
So this fence is blocking the view down into EH and TnT?
A huge tall fence went up between the ice cream cones stand across from RGHH to the swings.
Love to see SDC build a taller swing ride. Like the one at Six Flags Arlington. It be an amazing ride with an amazing view.
It'll never happen
SPECULATION:
I have to think that this is Echo Hollow related. I agree that putting an entrance there would make another bottle neck that much more congested... BUT it would also keep traffic from piling up there at the junction where the current entrance is.
Wasn't there talk a while back that GE was to be re-themed and the coaster would be its new centerpiece? Unless that plan got changed I see it being more logical that this would be the Station/Plaza area going up.
They are probably making this announcement sound like it will be a lot bigger than it actually will be
Hmmm I get the feeling this is about Summer Fireworks
I am not getting worked up over it being coaster related. lol They usually do those sorts of announcements in late August or September.
I am not getting worked up over it being coaster related. lol They usually do those sorts of announcements in late August or September.
Yeah, rewatching the video really makes it sound like its a one day fireworks display on July 4 that we can watch online.
Confirms it. Firework Factory: the Ride
Really....fireworks....lol....I think you guys are funny.
Here what the website says below the video.....(I'm guessing it's just about the sweepstakes)
Enter now to win a family getaway for 4 to Silver Dollar City Attractions including tickets to Silver Dollar City & White Water, a cruise on the Showboat Branson Belle and 2 nights at Silver Dollar City's The Wilderness!
Prize Package Includes:
4 One-Day Tickets To Silver Dollar City
4 One-Day Tickets To White Water
4 Tickets For A Cruise On The Showboat Branson Belle
2 Nights In A Log Cabin At The Wilderness
The same video is on the Globetrotters page. I tend to think this is nothing more than a Globetrotters-at-SDC announcement.
^Trick shot from the pinnacle of Wildfire, bouncing off the treehouse, down the corkscrew, ricocheting off of the wax hand of Meadowlark Lemmon and into the smokestack of one of the new engines as it crosses the bridge.
I bet they're announcing a globetrotter theater at the park. I expected one was coming Dollywood will get one too
I bet they're announcing a globetrotter theater at the park. I expected one was coming Dollywood will get one too
Now here's a bit of speculation that make sense. I keep wondering what they are planning for the Globetrotters as it seems they have been continually hyping up their brand. A dedicated theatre of some sort would make sense if they are going to keep on being such a large face of HFE. Still seems a little out of place, but as with anything it can be worked into the city if it's done with care.
I don't know if they would really build a new theatre though... seems like they would be more likely to gut another theatre, but only RGH is big enough. They wouldn't want to lose the flexibility of that venue though, so who knows.
We're guessing it's a World Record attempt
Love to see SDC build a taller swing ride. Like the one at Six Flags Arlington. It be an amazing ride with an amazing view.
It'll never happen
Why do you think it will never happen Swoosh?
We're guessing it's a World Record attempt
We're guessing it's a World Record attemptI am betting a basket from the top of Outlaw Run or Wildfire.
I really hope this will be about Celebration City more than anything else.
QuoteWe're guessing it's a World Record attemptI am betting a basket from the top of Outlaw Run or Wildfire.
Seems to make sense with the video clips and buzzwords they were throwing out there.
^Trick shot from the pinnacle of Wildfire, bouncing off the treehouse, down the corkscrew, ricocheting off of the wax hand of Meadowlark Lemmon and into the smokestack of one of the new engines as it crosses the bridge.
I don't think the length, I think the height is what's important.
The player was standing on the lift hill of outlaw run spinning his ball and they said "epic" and "world record". (If I am not mistaken). They own the globetrotters and a broken record is free. They are getting publicity and they are going to do it inexpensively. That's my guess anyway.
I don't think the length, I think the height is what's important.
The player was standing on the lift hill of outlaw run spinning his ball and they said "epic" and "world record". (If I am not mistaken). They own the globetrotters and a broken record is free. They are getting publicity and they are going to do it inexpensively. That's my guess anyway.
You might want to check that video again. I think he was on Wildfire. Only Wildfire has purple track.
I don't think the length, I think the height is what's important.
The player was standing on the lift hill of outlaw run spinning his ball and they said "epic" and "world record". (If I am not mistaken). They own the globetrotters and a broken record is free. They are getting publicity and they are going to do it inexpensively. That's my guess anyway.
You might want to check that video again. I think he was on Wildfire. Only Wildfire has purple track.
Purple? :o ??? ::)
I don't have the bid with me but I thought they showed both coasters and he was standing on OR. I could be mistaken. We will see soon enough.
Nahh... its clearly a Harlem Globetrotters themed spinning coaster. lol :)
Or the most globetrotters ever at different location spinning a ball on their finger at the same time!
Nahh... its clearly a Harlem Globetrotters themed spinning coaster. lol :)
I'm sticking with my original speculation. That close-up of the spinning basketball tells it right there. Lol
World record attempt is the best guess. Just trying to figure out why they would release it at midnight...
World record attempt is the best guess. Just trying to figure out why they would release it at midnight...
So is it midnight tonight or tomorrow night?
World record attempt is the best guess. Just trying to figure out why they would release it at midnight...
So is it midnight tonight or tomorrow night?
Well That was disappointing. Just a few basketball trick shots.
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Nothing to see hear, and nothing to do with this thread.
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Nothing to see hear, and nothing to do with this thread.
Except for the spinning of the basketball in every video and picture.
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Nothing to see hear, and nothing to do with this thread.
Except for the spinning of the basketball in every video and picture.
That's just a globtrotters signature stunt. It means nothing.
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Nothing to see hear, and nothing to do with this thread.
Except for the spinning of the basketball in every video and picture.
That's just a globtrotters signature stunt. It means nothing.
Is spinning a basketball a "stunt"? ;D
Here's an image that popped up recently and is being passed around enthusiast circles:
It's another new concept from Mack that includes a vertical drop. It's basically an answer to B&M dive machines. That survey is starting to make more sense now...
This might be another example of what to possibly expect. Just watched this on TPR's FB page. It's a Mack coaster as well.
QuoteThis might be another example of what to possibly expect. Just watched this on TPR's FB page. It's a Mack coaster as well.
This hurts my neck just watching. Reminds me of the coasters they used to have at Celebration City, short little curves and small neck straining dips.
I hope they keep this new ride a family ride, SDC has done a good job with the coasters so far. I prefer the long sweeping movements of PowderKeg to the short snappy turns of a coaster like this.
QuoteThis might be another example of what to possibly expect. Just watched this on TPR's FB page. It's a Mack coaster as well.
This hurts my neck just watching. Reminds me of the coasters they used to have at Celebration City, short little curves and small neck straining dips.
I hope they keep this new ride a family ride, SDC has done a good job with the coasters so far. I prefer the long sweeping movements of PowderKeg to the short snappy turns of a coaster like this.
^Well, we have a whole sub-forum for Dollywood discussion in the 'Other Parks' section, so maybe move that question there.
^Well, we have a whole sub-forum for Dollywood discussion in the 'Other Parks' section, so maybe move that question there.
gee thanks.....didnt know that i had to go search a forum from 2012 for answers.....sorry i asked
^Well, we have a whole sub-forum for Dollywood discussion in the 'Other Parks' section, so maybe move that question there.
gee thanks.....didnt know that i had to go search a forum from 2012 for answers.....sorry i asked
I'll be honest. I've visited DW 3 times this year and have never needed the Timesaver.
If you really need answers I suggest visiting Themeparkreview.com and ask in their specific Dollywood thread as you'll probably get more of the answers you want. This site is more SDC specific. I think you can probably count on one hand how many of the posters here have been to DW this season.
I wish SDC would hurry up and make some sort of announcement about the project coming up.
At the same time, there is probably a need for an access road where this one is being placed. The convenience of a road on that side of the City will alleviate any need for a vehicle having to come into the park proper.They actually have good access in this area by road now. Check on Google Earth. Look at a winter view and you can see the access points easier. Some dirt roads as well.
I was hoping the park might be close in announcing something even if the opening isn't until 2018.
Well folks, this is definitely going to a teacup spinner. I am not sure if anyone on the board will get the survey but there is one going around right now that has three possible themes for the coaster and EVERY SINGLE CONCEPT has a teacup spinner coaster cart. Now from what I am hearing, it will be a train of 4 cars that seat 4 people each (2 back to back). There will be some massive drops on this ride as all 3 concepts show a large hill. I'll see if I can get access to the concepts and post them here later tonight.
Pretty sure that these will be like Cobra's Curse more than Spinning Dragons.
Regarding the "Time Travel" coaster. By the concept write up, it sounds like the person is a con artist that is trying to sell you the time machine and not an actual going back in time.
So IMHO, the Mine and the Time Machine are fine with me. I do not want the Rodeo.
I will be very surprised if the 2018 project is a spinner. Not that it means anything. I hope this is for some other concept because I've already got my hopes up for 2018.
But a spinner coaster of this scale could be fun. I'm curious what the focus group reactions are, because a lot of gp are wary of spinners.
As for the themes, #1 is too generic on purpose so its probably a red herring. #2 is too standard for SDC, but its a safe theme to fall back on if everyone hates #1, which is the one they really want to use. The final product wont be what they mention here. The roman thing just signals that they want to break out of the SDC theme.
A few important points to mention that jumped out at me. First, concept #2 makes no specific reference to anything spinning at all, nor does the concept art indicate so. Second, did anyone else not pick up on the one consistent element in each of the concept renderings? The same tower is shown in all three. Anyone else think it bears any resemblance to the old WB tower that's been sitting curiously unused for years now?
Lastly, there's no mention of wording suggesting a record-breaking, first of its kind, or an overly intense ride experience.
All things considered, I could just as easily see this being our version of Firechaser Express. And there's still room to add this as a family-centric anchor to FL. Not to mention, if part of the long term plan is to raze FM, it could provide more real estate near there to utilize for the circuit, or a heavily themed entrance/queue/exit area.
Just saying. Anything is still possible and I don't put an ounce of stock into any guarantees that a spinner of some sort is a forgone conclusion. It may seem trendy at the moment, but the PTB have to know how risky it would be to add an attraction with such a limited demographic appeal. And the bigger they would make it, the risk increases along with it.
There's inherent risk associated with anything they change, or add. However, I just cannot see them investing 10's of millions of dollars on something like this. They've seen first hand the value in bringing something like OR to the park. A record-breaking attraction that's thoughtfully planned and executed to the point of moving the SDC brand needle well outside of a 250 mile radius.
It's my hope that they've taken that learning to heart and are in the midst of applying it for their next major attraction.
I can't imagine them testing the focus group waters now with ride and concept art that's slated to be added to the park in the next 6-18 months. The timing just doesn't make sense for 2017 or '18 for that matter. But that's just my humble opinion.
A heavily themed (#2 option) "Blue Fire"-like Mack coaster that has the hybrid trains with both traditional floorless seats and a 'spinning' train....would be epic!!!! With the ride elements design.....that could cause me to sign up for a 5 year pass....lol That really could be a special ride that they could market as being a 'first of its kind' here in the US.
I'd also be happy with a non-spinning Firechaser Express type of ride with either option 1 or 2. If it's not a mega-type of thrill ride I'd like it to be as family friendly as possible.
Full disclosure - I've never rode an actual spinning coaster ride - but my experiences with spinning flat rides tell me I'm not going to be wanting to ride it more than once a visit. One spinning ride a visit always seems to be enough for me this days. When I had to do multiple spinning rides with the littles ones around GE....I started to not like them as much.....I'm glad they are tall enough to go by themselves now.
the video is proof it can be done two stationary , two spinning and call it dayThis will cause me to buy another pass, strictly spinning is not for me. I have been on them and even the one at Disney is not that fun. The spinning takes away from the predictability of the rides moves and although that may appeal to some I prefer to "feel" the elements instead of be disoriented and frankly that's all the spinning does. There already are tea cups, no need to put then on a track with wheels hills and curves, just leave them where they are and call it good, move on to something new.
Plus they will be limiting their demographic for this ride as it is common knowledge that people prefer a traditional coaster over a coaster with moving seats.
^Very much agreed. I think SDC is better than that to go on with this spinning teacup coaster fad. They got the Teacups and Electrospin which both serve their purpose as a railed or moving spinning ride. They only have 4 major coasters and it would be a waste to add this silly gimmick to their 5th. At least exclusively. Plus they will be limiting their demographic for this ride as it is common knowledge that people prefer a traditional coaster over a coaster with moving seats. They better go the Blue Fire route with the hybrid train if they were wise about designing and marketing this.
Kids love to spin while parents moan about it online
QuoteKids love to spin while parents moan about it online
Most of SDC season is while school is in session. So this may not work to drive
attendance when the kiddies are busy.
So I decided to do some additional research into Mack Rides and stumbled upon their Facebook page.
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Check out that cover photo, makes me wonder. That would definitely be something different to warrant national attention if they did some kind of variant of this. Wished there was a description as to where and what coaster this is.
EDIT: (video in link)
Found it! The level of theming with this ride is very well done. And it does have optional spinning which would serve as a better multi-demographic pleaser. While the entry apparently classifies it is a "powered coaster" who says they couldn't be able to modify one to be a traditional inverted coaster? It would definitely be a first I believe. On a side note, SDC should have Mack refurb FITH and FM with that level of sophistication with the dark ride elements seen here.
http://www.mack-rides.com/en/products/coasters/inverted-powered-coaster/video/index.html
2017 - New Coaster - Rumor - (3/1/16) Remember that plan to add a coaster to Silver Dollar City in 2017 that I told you about? According to rumors sent my way the park pitched a few coaster concepts in a guest survey not long ago, asking guests to choose between what sounds like a Mack Launched Coaster with new style Spinning Cars (which Mack posted a video about back on Nov. 19th, 2015) or a very large B&M Dive Machine with 4 inversions.
Since SDC loves to use it's terrain, I hope it's a dive machine. A terrain dive machine would look ace.
Dollywood proves that HFE are capable of doing major updates and upgrades yearly....but also is a sign that SDC is not their primary focus. SDC has to deal with the fact that the Branson tourism market isn't as big of a growth market as PF (in my slightly educated opinion).
I'm not an expert on SDCs attendance but it seems that SDC is already busting at the seams each weekend without the yearly updates (and with price increases). I don't think SDC 'needs' a new ride to survive or to increase attendance/profit. I've always been curious about the market research behind the Branson market and the capacity that the park can handle. I also wonder about when SDC will go do a Disney-like demand system pricing (ex...Saturday one day tickets more expensive)
On a happier thought....with schools getting back in session....it's a wonderful time to visit right now with lower crowds...especially during the week. At least SDC doesn't suffer from year full capacity like the Disney/Universal type parks.
My parents went on Sunday and Monday. They heard from an employee that the project is for 2018 and right now they are putting in a water line back there in the construction area.
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My take on it is that the concepts and theme surveys they sent out are indeed for two coaster attractions that they have already decided on and were simply employed to gauge public reactions/interest with them. Two of the concepts in the latest survey will likely be used/recycled for future attractions. I suspect the park will use the Rodeo Theme (bleh) for the spinner (to appeal to the children/family demographic) and then the Silver Mine Theme for some other coaster. The B&M Dive Machine fits that theme perfectly, but it could also be a first of its kind Mack Dive Coaster too which would be marketed as a game changer/attention getter and would be more suited for the adults/thrill seeker demographic as I am sure the park is already well aware that their attraction lineup leans heavily on the children/family demographic right now.
My parents went on Sunday and Monday. They heard from an employee that the project is for 2018 and right now they are putting in a water line back there in the construction area.
Well the 2018 project probably is for 2018. Please specify which speculated project you're talking about.
My parents went on Sunday and Monday. They heard from an employee that the project is for 2018 and right now they are putting in a water line back there in the construction area.
Well the 2018 project probably is for 2018. Please specify which speculated project you're talking about.
Im just pointing out that the coaster definately wont be 2017. What project? I think there is only one 2018 project we know of so far, unless SDC says there will be 2.
Shave, SDC has family coasters:
Fire in the Hole
Thunderation
Grand Expo Coaster
Anyone can ride GEC. You might look creepy as an adult riding without a kid, but that's a choice you'll have to make.
Anyone can ride GEC. You might look creepy as an adult riding without a kid, but that's a choice you'll have to make.
Also, anyone can put a bucket on his/her head and have someone beat on it with a crowbar. That's another option, but really it has about the same effect.
Anyone can ride GEC. You might look creepy as an adult riding without a kid, but that's a choice you'll have to make.
Anyone can ride GEC. You might look creepy as an adult riding without a kid, but that's a choice you'll have to make.
Just because an adult can ride a kiddie coaster doesn't make it a family coaster. In my opinion, a family coaster is a ride that everyone, no matter their age, can ride the coaster and have fun. Really anyone over ten probably won't have fun on the GEC.
Anyone can ride GEC. You might look creepy as an adult riding without a kid, but that's a choice you'll have to make.
Also, anyone can put a bucket on his/her head and have someone beat on it with a crowbar. That's another option, but really it has about the same effect.
I take it you speak from experience. I know the Joplin School District is rough but I didn't realize they abused the teachers to that extent. ;D
I'll say this: if it weren't for the kids teaching would be easy.
I'll say this: if it weren't for the kids teaching would be easy.
lol. For me it's the helicopter parents. I can handle the kids no problem.
Actually the kids don't bother me, and neither do the parents; after 27 years, the worst part is the government.
The kiddie coaster in Grand Expo is a kiddie coaster.
Forget the spinning business. A T-Rex would be another game changer sure to put SDC on the map once again.
The most recent survey being shopped won't be for anything arriving at SDC in 2017 or 2018. That ship sailed long ago.
RMC knocked it out of the park with OR and I'm sure HFEC and SDC feel like they couldn't have gotten more value for the money. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them put their faith in RMC's innovation prowess once again with either the first or one of the first T-Rex installations.
Forget the spinning business. A T-Rex would be another game changer sure to put SDC on the map once again.
The most recent survey being shopped won't be for anything arriving at SDC in 2017 or 2018. That ship sailed long ago.
RMC knocked it out of the park with OR and I'm sure HFEC and SDC feel like they couldn't have gotten more value for the money. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them put their faith in RMC's innovation prowess once again with either the first or one of the first T-Rex installations.
Forget the spinning business. A T-Rex would be another game changer sure to put SDC on the map once again.
Is SS/Arrow still around? Making coasters?
I thought they just did the SS flat rides? Thought X at SFMM kill the coaster business for them.
^^You're thinking of Arrow Dynamics. They were bought out by S&S after they got in over their heads with X, and S&S was subsequently taken over by some Japanese entity.
I'd be over the moon to be the first park to get an RMC hyper coaster, but I doubt that will happen. I don't know if we'll ever know how much blame they deserve for the Lightning Run trouble, but HFEC probably isn't running back to them regardless. Besides, with how outlandish they are trying to be with some of these coaster installations, a T-REX coaster might not be gimmicky enough for them. I wouldn't be surprised if they go for some sort of flyer for their next coaster. I mean, who saw the extreme spinner coming? I hope they ease up on trying to push the bar and stick to some tried and true, quality designs for awhile though.
I'd rather them stop trying to push the envelope and start pushing the story.
I don't know if we'll ever know how much blame they deserve for the Lightning Run trouble, but HFEC probably isn't running back to them regardless.
Get ready for a world's first. The park is expecting a huge rise in attendance in 2018. So much so, sounds like they're expanding the parking again. Good bye to the rest of that mountain
In fairness, the parking has needed to be expanded for a while now. If you've ever made the mistake of visiting on a December Saturday, or some of the other very busy holidays and weekends, you'll know what I mean. When they are parking people in fields and bank parking lots in Branson West and busing them back to the park, you know you have a problem. One that's been needed to be addressed for years now.
something that will help bump up attendance will just help pay for what they already needed to do. :)
Get ready for a world's first. The park is expecting a huge rise in attendance in 2018. So much so, sounds like they're expanding the parking again. Good bye to the rest of that mountain
Get ready for a world's first. The park is expecting a huge rise in attendance in 2018. So much so, sounds like they're expanding the parking again. Good bye to the rest of that mountain
As I noted earlier...Wouldn't be at all surprised for the debut of the world's first T-REX to grace SDC.
Get ready for a world's first. The park is expecting a huge rise in attendance in 2018. So much so, sounds like they're expanding the parking again. Good bye to the rest of that mountain
As I noted earlier...Wouldn't be at all surprised for the debut of the world's first T-REX to grace SDC.
Everything is pointing to a spinning Mack version of a Infinity coaster though.
We get it. You don't like spinners.
Yeah but the consensus of this board means Jack.
No they will not make an announcement on 2018 this season.
A premature announcement about the 2018 season would only serve to stifle 2017 season pass sales.
Yeah but the consensus of this board means Jack. That same consensus whined about Outlaw Run going upside down when the artwork was released and now look at it.
Continually posting about how you don't want a spinner will not change what the coaster is, it only clogs up the thread.
Nothing to speculate about and nothing to talk about, that's not good for SDC.
More visitors? There's a reason the park is having to expand parking again. The park is far from hurting right now. Tourism is actually up in Branson this year. I'm not sure who exactly is hurting because tourism across the board is up this year thanks to low gas prices.
Yeah it's been there since earlier this Spring
2 of my kids where ready to go an hour after getting there today :/ They rather be back in the car with their ipads. SDC has tough competition these days for their attention.
2 of my kids where ready to go an hour after getting there today :/ They rather be back in the car with their ipads. SDC has tough competition these days for their attention.
When I was a kid I was so excited to get there I couldn't stand it. I felt it was the end of the world when I had to leave. Come to think of it I still do!
I'm surprised mammalone is being so quiet. Is she no longer dating the guy that's in charge of most of the construction projects out at the park? Now that the Runaway is built and open he should have moved out to the park.
I'm surprised mammalone is being so quiet. Is she no longer dating the guy that's in charge of most of the construction projects out at the park? Now that the Runaway is built and open he should have moved out to the park.
We broke up, unfortunately. It's been a really tough month. I just couldn't bring myself to make one more sammich.
Anyway, I'm just waiting on some "sort" of announcement that I thought was coming in Aug. or Sept. I hope they still give us some sort of a teaser.
Woman. Don't you know your place is in the kitchen!!!
Yeah I drew up what's been cleared when I went up for the last week of MM that seems to mostly match your description. Or has even more land been cleared than indicated here?
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=162&start=4170
I wouldn't be upset if they got rid of TNT's overflow queue on the hillside there too.
Even more trees are gone now. I guess everything behind EH restrooms and all of the trees between the restrooms and concession stand are gone now. You can almost clearly see TNT from EH now. This area is HUGE.
7. 2017 Center Town Upgrades - will be most noticeable during ChristmasDO you mean Mid Town where the bakery candle shop is or the square? This is interesting.
Isn't there a sign somewhere around labeling it Midtown?
Not to mention there is about a HUGE shake up in management in the next 2 months. Lots of reshuffling of people (among other things).
Not to mention there is about a HUGE shake up in management in the next 2 months. Lots of reshuffling of people (among other things).
Any other information or details about this? Who, what departments, positions, etc?
Is this management shakeup a good or bad thing?
TNT overflow que is ridiculous. Please remove it!!!! Just do a straight shot down into the building. It already has stairs to climb so it doesn't need the zig zag for the grading or for the que line wait.
I'm sure when TnT opened and for its first many years that line was needed especially since it was the only coaster in the park and that was before some of the other bigger ride areas were around(like GE and GG/FL). I've only seen the line back up completely down the stairs one or twice on the busiest of days. Of course....I only see it a few times a year. With two trains running and a average ops crew that ride really seems to keep the line moving.....seems to have almost as much capacity as Wildfire.
Since there is not much to talk about for the new coaster at the moment I wanted to bring up this ride which I think has exactly what SDC needs to focus on for new projects in the future. The immersive theming and storytelling with the projections and animatronics would be fantastic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRQNMWribCIEfteling is in the process of building a new dark ride attraction that is a good bit over 30 million in cost. Hopefully, if all goes as planned , I get to this park in 2018. I want to sneak nearby Toverland in as well.
This is the exterior of the ride in question which they could also build and theme around a mining or cave theme quite well. https://rcdb.com/12083.htm
(https://rcdb.com/aadhzla)
Also imagine how incredible it would be if they could put some love into AP, FM, and FITH with this theming technology.
Hmm, almost looks like they are flattening it for a station, and the spread footings would be part of that... but the track stakes originally went perpendicular through there down the hillside. I wonder if there will be some sort of station interaction/fly-by?
I'm super happy to finally have some almost vertical construction though. I'll definitely be heading out there more next year. Although at this rate they could have the thing built by then...
It's probably just new bathrooms for EH...lol
Lol I was there today too. I will just leave this here. I brought my telephoto and took lots of photos today which I will upload tonight after I get home.
Video: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154616921217232&id=503502231
Gotta give HFE credit for keeping everything on the down low. I mean the fact they are building foundations for something means that at least 90% of the plan has been approved. But I don't get the feeling from the interwebs that anyone knows exactly what is going on.
Usually I'm all for ridiculous unfounded rumors, but dont make headaches for your dad Brian.
Glad to see how excited Brad is for this thing though.
I have a vision of a launch up to a stalled area sort of like Cheetah Hunt and then that plunge from up there
You're looking at 12 riders per train from what I've heard. 4 carts with 4 riders sitting in rows of 2 back-to-back.Wouldn't that be 16 riders?
You're looking at 12 riders per train from what I've heard. 4 carts with 4 riders sitting in rows of 2 back-to-back.Wouldn't that be 16 riders?
Sure does sound like a low RPH for all that investment.
Flooded Mine still does more riders per day than Outlaw RunI didnt know that! I wonder how FITH compairs.
QuoteFlooded Mine still does more riders per day than Outlaw RunI didnt know that! I wonder how FITH compares
Flooded Mine still does more riders per day than Outlaw Run
Flooded Mine still does more riders per day than Outlaw Run
That would be a change in the last year then. Outlaw Run definitely had larger numbers 2013 - 2015, at least according to the ridership numbers that I saw while working there. While watching my NDA from my time, I will say that they weren't in the same tiers.
Are you sure you're not thinking of FITH?
Yes sweetie I am quite sure.
Sweetie? Umm, not necessary.
Ride ops saw actual ridership reports on a regular basis if we wanted. I saw 3 - 4 a year while working on the train when our lead came back with them from leadership meetings. Flooded Mine never had more ridership than Outlaw Run. It wasn't even close. And that was on every report for 2 years from the leadership given out to their attractions leaders in the park.
So either something odd happened in the last year where a ride with declining ridership somehow passed a new ride that was well above it, or there is some mistake in the information you're receiving. Trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here Swoosh.
jericho, the new coaster is currently being built on the other side of Thunderation from the cave. From what I can tell the biggest parts of the cave that you can walk through go back out under the entrance and towards the southwest into the woods. You can see both the entrance crater and the inclined railway on google maps which gives you a good idea of where the major route goes. That whole southwest side seems to be a non-development zone not just due to the cave but also due to bat habitats.
Can we put a lid on the "insider knowledge" stuff again?
I don't know what their plan is. It's still hard to understand how they are doing all this within arm's reach of their biggest performance venue which they apparently plan to use more and more. I think we can all assume they know what they are doing, but it's still impossible to know hardly anything about how the final product will look like.
I'm still wondering if there will be walls and structures that the coaster will run behind to shield a portion of the noise. A few extra trees at this point won't make a difference. Then again maybe the amphitheater has its days numbered after all and will be replaced somewhere else eventually.
I think they'll have to put in some type of retaining wall or something like that to shield the noise from Echo Hollow. I think if it were in the long term plans to remove the amphitheater they wouldn't be putting in brand new restrooms.Not so sure about that. If EH were relocated they might just keep the restroms there to serve the new area or attraction.
Okay I had a little birdie tell me something. No way of knowing if this is true so take with a grain of salt.
So look at the picture enclosed
The blue circle is the old waterboggin tower
What is being said to me is that the actual station for the new ride will be located in the gren area behind the tower and the ride will lift and drop from the top of the tower down into the ravine crossing over the path! He said the area where the now removed restrooms are is actually for a launch section that will have heavy themeing and what not. He says the need to cross the path and what not is why this isna two season project. Thoughts?
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Is it wrong to suspect that this thing could open for "preview rides" before next season ends? That way all the kinks could be worked out before an official new season is touted for 2018, and we avoid the Lightning Rod fiasco.
"Test Riders Wanted" is what I was thinking might happen near the end of 2017, like they did with TGS. Although I cant remember when they did that. I just remember watching my mom walk up the street to ride.
Thanks, MH! That's not encouraging at all, is it?I am sorry to sound so negative but they are doing something that I am afraid will be too big for the area. THe intimacy is gone. Maybe this is an old thing that nobody cares about but the clear cutting bothers me and they dont seem to be motivated ( Wildfire) to try to replace what they lost. Maybe they will put up a great building and nobody will notice that SDC is not in the woods anymore.
QuoteThanks, MH! That's not encouraging at all, is it?I am sorry to sound so negative but they are doing something that I am afraid will be too big for the area. THe intimacy is gone. Maybe this is an old thing that nobody cares about but the clear cutting bothers me and they dont seem to be motivated ( Wildfire) to try to replace what they lost. Maybe they will put up a great building and nobody will notice that SDC is not in the woods anymore.
I had the day off and decided to take a drive to Branson. At the end of my mess around day I drove out to SDC to see what I could see. My Jaw dropped, I took pics with my iphone but it was not focusing at all. Basically where the had built a little road and curved it around to the right they have now taken that entire hill out. You look from the gates on indian point directly ( allarmingly closly) to the back of the CCS. The huge footers are being dug right behind echo hollow stage. I was really taken back by what I was looking at. I am the local SDC tree hugger and it really bothered me. It looks clear cut ot me. I would encourage you if you are out to drive by, Its not pretty at all
Are you talking about this little hill?Yes shave thats "part" of the hill. Having been to WDW and DL you begin to realize just how important a small hill can be to sightlines SDC does not seem to be concerned with this, at least for now. That entire area is gone, not just the hill, its hollowed out flat. To say that you can plainly see the back of Echo Hollow Stage from the road is an understatement. I bet EH sits less that 200 ft from Indian point and I am being generous . Its one thing to see the back of a grey building when you are driving by but as far as I can tell the view from the porch is destroyed, unless you want to look at a roller coaster and the traffic lined up for parking. How do I put up pics on here? I would load up a cpl really out of focus pics so you could see but I am not sure how. I purchased my pass for this year with pause because I am not excited about the changes to the spring festival, it does not sound like an upgrade to me (Maybe I am wrong, the crowds and responce will tell) Hopefully this is not another gas light square, I was there for that one........Firemans landing was a one sided structure blocking the outside world, this addition seems to bring it So is it easy to post pics?
Are you talking about this little hill?
MH, i saw on FB you were in the area.. did you enjoy TOTR? (top of the rock).Had a good time messing around Sandune, needed to get out of town and the afternoon in Branson helped. I am glad you saw that I was actually going to message you to encourage you to go on one of your trips. Yes Echo Hollow is right there, I mean I could not believe how close. The small hill Shave refered to was a damn important hill! If that was the only block between indian point and EH it sure did a great job. I am going to go up in a cpl weeks and take the camera and get pics. the sheet they are using does nothing to cover what they are doing and I dont think with the angle they can effectivly block it out. I dont know about the lot of you but I would much rather watch a show with a forrest as the backdrop to the stage than a coaster. Whatever those footers are for is going to be big and consume the view. Once again I am not trying to be negative Nancy here but I dont see the trade off. I am for expansion but why did Disney buy land in Florida? because the outside world moved in on Disney Land. SDC looks to be inviting this and working twords it. SDC would be wise to release some artwork showing what they are going to end up with. There is not a roller coaster that will replace the serinity and peace of those trees. They could have placed a coaster elseware to maintain the integrity of SDC. I think the disconect is that SDC will be open to the outside world, there will be no transition. The theme will be blown, gone, automobiles lined up while you are looking out the back porch of the Culinary School. You can view the oncoming crowd of trafic through the new coaster geared tword teens. Interesting to think that they would do all of this for a ride that appeals to so few customers, SDC is open 10 months a year. 3 of those months are open to kids because school is out. I would not request another carosel but there are plenty of rides that adults enjoy with and without their kids. A rumored launched spinner is sure a small audience. I would predict 7 months worth of low ridership, if this is the territory that SDC wants to move to I also would predict negative feedback and loss of seasons pass holders and visitors, Memories worth repeting? I am afraid that slogan may go by the wayside.
I also drove past that work area a couple of time at SDC.. amazing how much you can see. I was actually surprised that EH. is "right there".. I knw it was close to hiway, but just didnt realize..? Lots of demo and rebuild going on there for sure//
I doubt they will fill much in with trees. Just like Wildfire, its' too much of a liability to have trees anywhere close to a train going 50+ MPH.I agree shave, there are also other alternatives to this problem of barron land with a steel coaster sitting in it.
QuoteInteresting to think that they would do all of this for a ride that appeals to so few customers, SDC is open 10 months a year. 3 of those months are open to kids because school is out. I would not request another carosel but there are plenty of rides that adults enjoy with and without their kids.
Kids/Teens = complete family participation, more season tickets, more food, more souvenirs, more overall moneys spent on park.. ;D ;D
The theme will be blown, gone, automobiles lined up while you are looking out the back porch of the Culinary School. You can view the oncoming crowd of trafic through the new coaster geared tword teens.
Of course non of us really think we're in the 1880s but it is part of the fun to imagine you are (roller coasters and other modern rides aside). :DVery true and suspending belief for just a few moments is something people will pay big bucks for and will go again and again if its quality. This is a company move, I suggest that this year we will see many changes to the theme and spirit of the park. I have my pass, I am ready to see what they have done to improve my experience. I predict changes and surprises, we will wait to see if they are positive changes.
Its telling that we aren't hearing more from the GP (General Public) asking about what is going on. I think it speaks volumes to HFE that all of that construction was/is going on without any large outcry from the GP about what's going on. Of course they maybe taking calls and complaints but it doesn't seem to be boiling up to a point where the GP seems to care that deeply.
I think most of the GP doesn't think about this stuff as deeply as we do. Remember we are fans (short for fanatics) They are just there to have fun. They don't expect to spend the whole day feeling like it's really the past. They aren't there to experience a history lesson....they just want to create memories with each other and enjoy the attractions.
On one of SDCs recent season pass facebook posts I committed a question on if I'd get a early ride on the new coaster if I get passes next year......no response....lol
Ah the good old trademark site with the spoiler as usual. That's public info though, so it's not a "leak" that anyone could get upset about. I don't think we can hide it from those wanting to be "surprised".
As usual the theme all comes down to implementation, which they have always been stellar at. I worry that this theme will get lost in the details and most visitors won't get it. We'll see though - at least it is a daring, bold, and interesting choice.
At the same time though, be aware that just because a trademark has been filed doesn't mean this is the exact concept they are going to go with in the end. They've trademarked names before that they've never used, and coaster names are often changed before opening, i.e. "The Outlaw" became "Outlaw Run". They could file another name next week to keep their options open, or just to throw us off ;)
How does the rest of the park look?
How does the rest of the park look?I was wondering how the rest of the park looked. Changes for the new lights ext.
I'm not sure what you're asking?
How does the rest of the park look?
QuoteHow does the rest of the park look?I was wondering how the rest of the park looked. Changes for the new lights ext.
I'm not sure what you're asking?
QuoteWell the treehouse is down now. That's the biggest change. Sounds like Cannery Road will be safe for one more season. There might be some other changes coming to the park but they haven't started it yet.
Mack Rides - xtreme spinning coaster concept ;)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z6Kmp0n7L8
I will be in Branson Next week, Will get pics from the blacktop, the best I can.I am going up right around the first for a mess around trip. I will see what I can take pics of as well.
Obviously cant get to close.......maybe :-\ :-\ ;D
Still looks like SDC. Trees. Buildings. Rides. :p
QuoteStill looks like SDC. Trees. Buildings. Rides. :p
You noted Trees!! Midtown is getting the Osborn lights and changes would or are being made to support this during the off season. If you look at the art work you will note that there are many large things up in the air, this brings me pause. In order to have these things up you need clearence so you can instal it in the first place and for any animated movement. My suspision is trees and growth has been "adjusted" or removed for this as they probably would not do this mid season. What will this do to the shade and the character of mid town? Thats what I am interested in, this is a old area of the park that really captured the SDC feel. From Marys Spring house down to the woodcarvers (old toy shop) is sensetive and hopefully they have maintained its integrity and character.
I always try to give SDC and the PTB the benefit of the doubt. While the trademark info Swoosh shared last week doesn't necessarily guarantee anything, the linkage with the ride concept that was floated last year really worries me from a thematic standpoint. It feels more connected to the major thematic miss of Grand Exposition than the general theme SDC has always sold. I totally understand a mere trademark filing means nothing is written in stone, but I personally hope they don't blow the theming of this new attraction with a major addition that feels completely off-brand from SDC's thematic roots. If this is the name, and it winds up matching what was described in the concept art from last year's survey, I think you can kiss SDC as we know it goodbye. I personally don't feel they've let us down with the attention to detail that's gone into the last several major attractions. However, for me, regardless of detail, suddenly having elements of Ancient Rome thrown in the middle of a 19th century theme park could signal the beginning of an anything goes era for the park. Here's hoping I'm way wrong about it all. I love the idea, but if executed the way it was proposed below, it could be a real shame.
I think it sounds funny. "Suspiciously handcrafted,""all sales final", "no refunds." Another crazy inventor in SDC. It's like the 1880s' Silicon Valley. They could have a live performer getting fed to an atrociously bad steam-powered "automalocomotive" lion.Walt Disney World tried there hand at this "Sideshow Theme" and it has a coaster. Its at the Animal Kingdom and it frankly is a scab that really needs to be picked away. They did a spinning coaster as well,
Could be fixed seats, could be wildly spinning, or it could be a huge surprise and be a completely different concept altogether.
I'm pretty positive most people's hunch is correct though: elements of tech seen on Cobra's Curse will be seen on this ride so that it is a hybrid between CC and what is seen on that video. Likely to be regulated spinning, but that's just the popular hunch at the moment.
The ability to control seats so they face a certain way during thematic elements just blows open the door to endless possibilities though. With the fun theme they've picked, this could be the most detailed coaster since FiTH.
Sounds like some "steampunk theme" may be involved also..
QuoteI think it sounds funny. "Suspiciously handcrafted,""all sales final", "no refunds." Another crazy inventor in SDC. It's like the 1880s' Silicon Valley. They could have a live performer getting fed to an atrociously bad steam-powered "automalocomotive" lion.Walt Disney World tried there hand at this "Sideshow Theme" and it has a coaster. Its at the Animal Kingdom and it frankly is a scab that really needs to be picked away. They did a spinning coaster as well,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBvp-7UZ1NA
This is the richest company in the theme park business, I hope that SDC takes a lesson from this card board cut out mistake. They really need to do this right or don't do it. I still think the audience is wrong and so limited for the investment. I always thought when you broke 18 you were done with spinning.....lol
QuoteI think it sounds funny. "Suspiciously handcrafted,""all sales final", "no refunds." Another crazy inventor in SDC. It's like the 1880s' Silicon Valley. They could have a live performer getting fed to an atrociously bad steam-powered "automalocomotive" lion.Walt Disney World tried there hand at this "Sideshow Theme" and it has a coaster. Its at the Animal Kingdom and it frankly is a scab that really needs to be picked away. They did a spinning coaster as well,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBvp-7UZ1NA
This is the richest company in the theme park business, I hope that SDC takes a lesson from this card board cut out mistake. They really need to do this right or don't do it. I still think the audience is wrong and so limited for the investment. I always thought when you broke 18 you were done with spinning.....lol
The dinosaur area is the GE of the Magic Kingdom, but much worse. It does look like Rome would be propped up haphazardly like in a street fair. I get the snake oil idea, but I think that would only work in GE, and not in the park proper. I already feel like I'm leaving SDC when I cross the threshold of the GE.
Like I think I said before, it all comes down to implementation. It's a daring theme and whether or not it "works" with the rest of the park will come down to how the details are managed. This is a park that has a good history of theming and managing details well, so the odds are looking good for it to be pulled off well. I'm sure they won't build a collesium right at the entrance.
It IS something that belongs at SDC though. It fits right in with inventive themes like Dr. Horatio Harris' Wildfire, the American Daredevil Society (or whatever the exact name is), the flooded prison mine, etc... The best rides are the ones that can really sell a story to go along with it, IMO.
QuoteI think it sounds funny. "Suspiciously handcrafted,""all sales final", "no refunds." Another crazy inventor in SDC. It's like the 1880s' Silicon Valley. They could have a live performer getting fed to an atrociously bad steam-powered "automalocomotive" lion.Walt Disney World tried there hand at this "Sideshow Theme" and it has a coaster. Its at the Animal Kingdom and it frankly is a scab that really needs to be picked away. They did a spinning coaster as well,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBvp-7UZ1NA
This is the richest company in the theme park business, I hope that SDC takes a lesson from this card board cut out mistake. They really need to do this right or don't do it. I still think the audience is wrong and so limited for the investment. I always thought when you broke 18 you were done with spinning.....lol
also can see how close new project really is to EH, and TNT. just several yards away from both..Wow! They have come a long way in a cpl of weeks. I hope they at least pour some top soil on the clay and grow some grass. All the red clay is very disheartening. Not a lot grows in clay.
@Swoosh, yes go ahead and use pics you want to on MIG, credit me as Sanddunerider, since i use that name on different sites anyway. thanks
Wow, is it really that visible from the road, or do you just have a really good zoom lens? Every time I see it EH seems to move closer to the roadIt really goes that close to the road. SDC has let in the outside world
Wow, is it really that visible from the road, or do you just have a really good zoom lens? Every time I see it EH seems to move closer to the road.
Thanks for the update!
So right now it looks like the construction wraps around TNT, but doesn't go into the "swoop" at all like the initial markings indicated?
Wow, is it really that visible from the road, or do you just have a really good zoom lens? Every time I see it EH seems to move closer to the roadI was by yesterday and couldnt get any pics better than Sandune although they have put up a wooden fence along Indian point weekly trying to block the view. It doesnt work at all.
QuoteWow, is it really that visible from the road, or do you just have a really good zoom lens? Every time I see it EH seems to move closer to the roadI was by yesterday and couldnt get any pics better than Sandune although they have put up a wooden fence along Indian point weekly trying to block the view. It doesnt work at all.
Unless I missed it in another post here is a concept video of the coaster the park is probably getting. The turntable with the optional trains would be a smart move. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z6Kmp0n7L8&feature=youtu.be
I am assuming the actual coaster will obviously be larger and more extensive and better themed than that. lol
QuoteWow, is it really that visible from the road, or do you just have a really good zoom lens? Every time I see it EH seems to move closer to the roadI was by yesterday and couldnt get any pics better than Sandune although they have put up a wooden fence along Indian point weekly trying to block the view. It doesnt work at all.
QuoteWow, is it really that visible from the road, or do you just have a really good zoom lens? Every time I see it EH seems to move closer to the roadI was by yesterday and couldnt get any pics better than Sandune although they have put up a wooden fence along Indian point weekly trying to block the view. It doesnt work at all.
Wow! I looked at your pics, Sand, but seeing it in person puts a whole new spin on it! I'm sure they will make it look nice, but I hope it's not too visible from the road when it's finished. And, yes, the fence is worthless.
QuoteHow does the rest of the park look?I was wondering how the rest of the park looked. Changes for the new lights ext.
I'm not sure what you're asking?
Well the treehouse is down now. That's the biggest change. Sounds like Cannery Road will be safe for one more season. There might be some other changes coming to the park but they haven't started it yet.
Interesting...but not putting much stock into it. Could just be a local news outlet finding a random roller coaster picture.
Yep, just a stock photo.........
NOW if they had done a walk through the park......
SAAAYYYY by where the treehouse was.............
Then we would have had something to look at!!.............
LOL
MHguy, should have pictures posted tomorrow afternoon...
Swoosh, Same as 2 weeks ago, use any of them for update on your other site,
Great photos. I've taken your best and added commentary and that update is now online at MiG
Similar to what's seen on Disney forums, has there been a layout drawn onto a satellite image of the area to get an idea of the scope?
Great photos, although I have a feeling one of these days they are going to come after you if you get any closer sanddunerider. ;D
So thinking outside the box here but also looking at how the footers are lining up. I think there will be a long launch that will go into some type of inversion - I'm guessing a form of an Immelmann loop that connects to that big support that I pointed out in the two updates and then it might loop around towards TNT. Now the two big footers there by TNT I think are going to be supports for a large vertical loop. They are too beefy to not be something that will need to distribute force downward. So, again thinking outside the box - could this be an interlocking inversion? How cool would that be!
Looking at the footers in the trees, I think there are two different paths here. Maybe two different curves of track? The footers over by the exit of the TNT tunnel I am at loss for. We will need some more footers to be filled in before I can even guess.
Watch me be way off, but that's my educated (? - ok that's questionable) guess on what may be happening.
Shoot we still don't even know what flavor or Mack coaster this will be.
Isnt Pandemonium at Six Flags similar to the ride you all think SDC is building. Pandemonium is a spinning coaster is it not?
Making an unscheduled trip to Branson tomorrow,
Swoosh I will try to get more pics.. Any specific shots you or anyone else want? It will have to be from the blacktop or the construction gate. I am sure they will be working, LOL., So i may not be able to get quite as close...
Any pics in town??/ I heard that BIGFOOT super structure is going up.. I will get pics of that..
lol, I wonder if the gate was planned that way or if it's just them reacting to your drive-bys.
This station is going to tower over everything even though it's halfway down the hill fro the park itself. They definitely wanted to keep the station, maintenance, and everything else contained in a small footprint due to the topography. I'm just hoping there's room for details.
lol, I wonder if the gate was planned that way or if it's just them reacting to your drive-bys.
This station is going to tower over everything even though it's halfway down the hill fro the park itself. They definitely wanted to keep the station, maintenance, and everything else contained in a small footprint due to the topography. I'm just hoping there's room for details.
I dont know, but i would think secruity... the park will be open in 3 weeks and everybody will be able to see whats going on from the Culinary building ;D
Wow, great article and the aerial views really show how massive of a project this is. Kinda worried about "Barke" and "Top Dog..." although I won't jump to any conclusions. Just seems weird is all I'm saying.
I think we are in for a major surprise.
Those are definitely not wooden coaster footers...
Keep in mind that spread footings are custom designed based on soil conditions and the individual calculated factored loads for that particular segment. I haven't watched closely, but I'm sure these are more pier-based footers vs. typical spread footings. I know they are working in an area with a lot of voids and caves, so they are probably deeper than they look and go into rock. Also, the aerial view distorts how big these things actually are. Some of them are huge.
It would be fun to be surprised though.
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Seeing it from this perspective and without sounding like a complete nerd I am kinda really wondering about those tiny footers littered around the hillside if this ride might be something else completely. They seem to be in the same style as the ones seen on TNT or a wooden coaster. Those are not the large square footers of a traditional steel coaster. Would they really put in yet another wooden coaster back to back? Granted they might not yet be poured by the construction crew, but it wouldn't explain the smaller ones already there. Perhaps a Hybrid structure to fit with the 1880's theme? See example photos below.
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Here you go! Current pics from this weekend. Took pics for the open gate area, as they were working on saturday.. there is some massive earth moving going there.. check pics., I tried to tell you what i was seeing on some of them..
Shave, Swoosh, us any or all pics as you need to..
https://www.facebook.com/lorrie.crumb/media_set?set=a.10210756589902359.1073741934.1578260143&type=3&uploaded=19
Thanks sanddunerider - working on getting them on MiG now. (also thanks for saving me a trip down - I was totally thinking of going myself until I heard you planned on going. ;) )
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Seeing it from this perspective and without sounding like a complete nerd I am kinda really wondering about those tiny footers littered around the hillside if this ride might be something else completely. They seem to be in the same style as the ones seen on TNT or a wooden coaster. Those are not the large square footers of a traditional steel coaster. Would they really put in yet another wooden coaster back to back? Granted they might not yet be poured by the construction crew, but it wouldn't explain the smaller ones already there. Perhaps a Hybrid structure to fit with the 1880's theme? See example photos below.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4c/32/64/4c326418c1f7b9e8ceaeddb3d3b8e2a4.jpg)
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Nothing wrong with being a coaster nerd around here.....I'd like to see more of us on here.
I doubt it is going to be a wooden structure....their would actually need to be a lot more footers to match that design. Plus the potential lift structure wouldn't fit with any traditional woodie builds.
It is really a pretty good mystery at this point what that layout could be and what type of ride it is.
I'm still wondering if the land work is done. Will there be anymore structures build for theming/tunnels?
FYI The footer is always buried underground. The square or round concrete that you see above ground is a column that is attached to the footer.
Whatever is in the works, I sincerely hope it's been designed to eclipse the 200 ft mark in terms of height and/or drop. That alone would be a real game changer and draw to the park. Really excited about the possibilities around the theming for this as well. In terms of what the article eluded to with this being SDC's biggest addition "by far", I wonder if Lisa was referring to the investment, the magnitude of the attraction itself, or both?
I don't understand what they are doing with that building that it needs to be so big. What could they need that many stories for?Maintenance area, Gift shop, Q, elevator (if they don't bridge out ) so its ada compliant, my money is on a direct walk onto the load level to avoid this. I wonder if they will do a viewing area like Wildfire as well.
Well, Brad Thomas just tweeted this image... Wild Mountain?
https://twitter.com/BradThomasMO/status/842116377624338432
http://www.silverdollarcity.com/theme-park/what-is-it
It seems to be in more of a valley than on any one "wild mountain".
Here we go.....the official start to a very long marketing campaign....lol. Hopefully a planned campaign could lead the GP and the fanatics like us through a backstory to help with whatever theme is going to happen.
But I'll go out on the limb and guess "Wild Mountain" has a 50% chance of actually being the name.
Hmmm, maybe the reason the building is going so high is because it's going to be a mountain structure..
Any chance with the building going so big there is a Verbolten style element involved?
Hmmm, maybe the reason the building is going so high is because it's going to be a mountain structure..
Hmm. maybe,,, IF they do that would be a massive amount of work for a loading station... :o
I think we'll have an elevator lift down a level for maintenance much like what they do on Mystery Mine.
So in other words....
1. Load
2. Maintenance
3. Maintenance
4. BOH
5. BOH
Fully expect them to use the BOH levels for storage for EH.
I really hope there will be a pre-ride experience for this thing while in queue.
As large as that area is going to be, I look for a gift/souvenir shop in there somewhere.. there are lots of square feet to be used up..
Based on everything I have seen and read about so far I am thinking it is gonna be similar to one of these Mack coasters. Perhaps a combination of both.
Lost Gravity Big Dipper Coaster
https://youtu.be/EijuHCTpcAo
Helix Terrain Launch Coaster
https://youtu.be/I8hp7PwjNqs
If you missed it - Brad posted some photos to Facebook today
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/04/time-traveler-construction-sdc.html
I noticed the www.link on the fence changed and "WildMountain" has been replaced with "OverTheFence". Both links are still active and take you to the same web page: http://www.silverdollarcity.com/theme-park/what-is-it
Which made me wonder....what if I replace "WildMountain" with "TineTraveler"......so I did, but it only lead me to a "page not found" page.
Jay
Added a few cell phone shots to the FB page. The building will be all closed in by the time they start building track apparently. So much work and concrete going on in the gully. Something HUGE is going to be supported there.
So talked with Lance Hart tonight and we are both in agreement that this will utilize the same set up as Lightning Run where the maintenance bay is right under the load station. There is an elevator lift right before the station that lowers to let the train down a level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_xhdpimeI4
That however leaves the question on what those other holes are for.
they want a new indoor ride (me, too).Every signature ride thats worth its salt to the entire family is a dark ride.
All good points.QuoteThey rarely make long coasters these days. More cost efficient to focus on the big elements and let it hit the brakes hard leaving the audience wanting more.
More cost efficient to focus on the big elements and let it hit the brakes hard leaving the audience wanting more.
Unless we are missing something significant, it looks very hard to dispute that this coaster will be diving right out of the station. The shape of the openings at both ends of the building also seem consistent with the wider style trains found with dive or wing coasters. Those openings may mean nothing in terms of the style of actual trains that run through them, but we can only speculate based on what we can see right now. Regardless, I still don't believe this coaster will feature a spinning cars element.
So I did some searching and this is what I think the transfer track is going to be like for Time Traveler. This is Pegasus at EuropaPark which is also built by MACK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOMVcfn0Hys
So I did some searching and this is what I think the transfer track is going to be like for Time Traveler. This is Pegasus at EuropaPark which is also built by MACK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOMVcfn0Hys
Still doesn't work with those other 2 openings that look like entries for transfer track.
So I did some searching and this is what I think the transfer track is going to be like for Time Traveler. This is Pegasus at EuropaPark which is also built by MACK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOMVcfn0Hys
Still doesn't work with those other 2 openings that look like entries for transfer track.
You mean those two openings with a steel beam running across them? Do tell.
I honestly think all of that excavating is for the footers. There's no bedrock in this area so the footers are having to be bigger than normal to prevent eventual slippage due to settling. They've learned a lot from PK. They've had to go in numerous times over there to re secure footers to prevent slippage.
Still doesn't work with those other 2 openings that look like entries for transfer track.
You mean those two openings with a steel beam running across them? Do tell.
Will be there saturday, try to get pics...
Are you going to swing by the projects on the Strip too?
Does anyone think there is ANY chance of this new ride going through Marvel cave or its tunnels?
Does anyone think there is ANY chance of this new ride going through Marvel cave or its tunnels?
Does anyone think there is ANY chance of this new ride going through Marvel cave or its tunnels?
I'm not holding out for anything spectacular in the theming department on this ride anymore. Just doesn't seem like the signs are there, but I guess there is still lots of time.
Great shots! Thanks for sharing.
It really looks like there was a design change or something for the facade. So much plywood has been taken back off, and the rods on top have been cut... Could have been the plan all along, but SDC is famous for starting projects and then cutting them back during construction.
Powderkeg had a bunch of special effects cut, such as the big splash affect/ water tunnel thing after the drop from the lift. TNT was originally supposed to be longer, I thought. Wildfire may have been the only ride that got a perfect station with all the bells and whistles, but I think they were originally planning to add some theming out around the track that got cut? And so on and so forth...
I'm not holding out for anything spectacular in the theming department on this ride anymore. Just doesn't seem like the signs are there, but I guess there is still lots of time.
I'm not holding out for anything spectacular in the theming department on this ride anymore. Just doesn't seem like the signs are there, but I guess there is still lots of time.
I think your right about the theming, I think we will see heavy theming on west side, maybe south side, and of course some signage inside the building and along the Queue. other than, i dont expect to see much.
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/05/time-traveler-construction-sdc_11.html?m=1
Fun new topper on the station
Anybody seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9_2BvSkNAs
Anybody seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9_2BvSkNAs
Not even close...... ::) ::)
I agree, it won't be that.
But it IS what many were saying early on, including some people here. You know who they are. :-P
I agree, it won't be that.
But it IS what many were saying early on, including some people here. You know who they are. :-P
Congrats you know a secret. Time for the "panties in a bind brigade" to get triggered.
Let's not start this crap again.
I agree, it won't be that.
But it IS what many were saying early on, including some people here. You know who they are. :-P
Congrats you know a secret. Time for the "panties in a bind brigade" to get triggered.
Let's not start this crap again.
I think you misunderstood what I was saying there Swoosh. I don't know what it is any more than anyone else. I'm agreed that I don't think it's going to be what that linked video thinks it will be. But it's speculation.
I was just saying for those jumping on it that in the early speculation there were people proclaiming that was what it was going to be. A couple rather forcefully saying that's what it was, and some of them were here. And that those who claimed it and are now proclaiming otherwise know who they are.
Don't read more in there than was said. Or is the overly sensitive reaction for another reason? :-P
Back to speculating...
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/05/time-traveler-construction-sdc_19.html
We should see vertical construction soon. Supports and other metal components have arrived.
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/05/time-traveler-construction-sdc_19.html
We should see vertical construction soon. Supports and other metal components have arrived.
Looks like the fences and line that was used on Orbiter.
Hard to tell from the pics but how big are they? Are they as big as say... the ones used on Wildfire? That could give us clues to the scope of how big this thing is gonna be.
Hard to tell from the pics but how big are they? Are they as big as say... the ones used on Wildfire? That could give us clues to the scope of how big this thing is gonna be.
I mean, they're pretty typical supports from what I can tell. Not as big as the giant lift hill supports on WF, but they are the same sized used on Helix at Lisberg and all of Mack's other creations. Not saying that they are Mack supports necessarily, but they are the same size from what I can tell. Supports all look the same though...
With some infrastructure components beginning to show up and 10 months still on the calendar until opening day for the 2018 season, this really makes me extra curious how much work really still needs to be done. Are we to assume that all of the excavating work is complete? Are all of the footers in place? Erecting the steel alone can't possibly take several months, especially this time of year. Unless there is still something relatively major we have yet to see, or this ride will involve a game-changing feature that will require significant testing (a la Lightning Rod), I wonder if this ride will be close to complete from a bystander POV when they officially announce the attraction late summer, or early Fall. Definitely love all the guessing, just wish we had something significant and concrete to get excited about. Regardless of whatever manufacturer and type of coaster we're looking at here, I personally hope this winds up being the longest ride in the park. Each of SDC's coasters all have something special about them, but none of them are quite long enough for me. I have yet to visit the park this year so it's hard discerning just how much land this ride will consume and just how much of a layout could fit into the footprint we already know is currently occupied by footers. Can anyone shed any extra light on these points to help out those of us who have not seen the site in person yet?
I wish we had an updated aerial view. There's just no way to get good photos or get a grasp of the situation until you ride TNT and see for yourself.
Looks like the fences and line that was used on Orbiter.
Didn't all of that go to Wild Adventures?
Could it be possible the whole coaster could be constructed by the fall or maybe testing for a soft opening in time for Christmas?
Went ahead and posted the photos. We just got home less than an hour ago.
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/05/time-traveler-track-hung.html
Photos of the track in the air - another piece ready to go - and several supports up already. There is more track visible from the train. Did some detail shots on the station. HUGE update. Enjoy!
Is that first section out by the TnT helix? Looks like it in the background. Can you get a good look at it from TnT?
Also looks like the curve is following the TnT helix? Is that right or I'm I looking at it wrong?
Guess this is our visual proof that it is a Mack...and a roller coaster....lol
Thanks for the pics
Is that first section out by the TnT helix? Looks like it in the background. Can you get a good look at it from TnT?
Also looks like the curve is following the TnT helix? Is that right or I'm I looking at it wrong?
Guess this is our visual proof that it is a Mack...and a roller coaster....lol
Thanks for the pics
It is directly behind the stage at EH. You can see it from TNT, but then you can pretty much the whole project from TNT. It looks like they are going to install parts in the Northeast corner of the project and then work away from there so they don't "paint themselves into a corner"
Guess this is our visual proof that it is a Mack...and a roller coaster....lol
Are we being a bit presumptuous about the make of the coaster considering Mack, Intamin and Gerstlauer all build coasters using this type of track?
Is that first section out by the TnT helix? Looks like it in the background. Can you get a good look at it from TnT?
Also looks like the curve is following the TnT helix? Is that right or I'm I looking at it wrong?
Guess this is our visual proof that it is a Mack...and a roller coaster....lol
Thanks for the pics
It is directly behind the stage at EH. You can see it from TNT, but then you can pretty much the whole project from TNT. It looks like they are going to install parts in the Northeast corner of the project and then work away from there so they don't "paint themselves into a corner"
So they are starting at the further point out from the station? I don't claim to no anything about the best way to build these things but I'd assume they work from the furthest point away from the service access entrance....and only if all the footers in the area are done.
To be clear, the first shot of the track that sawblade5 got was apparently taken from the new bathrooms on the North end of Echo Hollow. That is across the gully from the service entrance and the farthest point from the station - literally the back corner.
Someone mentioned seeing a "Mack box" in the area, or something with Mack on it that confirmed they were involved. Anyone know about this?
While the few remaining trees are still kind of able to hide the coaster while they are leafed out, the actual coaster area is barren and will surely stay that way like Wildfire. There's just no other way. Trees and coasters do not mix very well. Especially when they have elements close to the ground. Again though, there's still hope for some tunnels and neat thematic features.
Pretty sure drones aren't allowed over the park anyway; didn't some guy who posted drone video of SDC on YouTube get in trouble for it last year?
Pretty sure drones aren't allowed over the park anyway; didn't some guy who posted drone video of SDC on YouTube get in trouble for it last year?
You could always take the helicopter ride that goes right over the park
Went ahead and posted the photos. We just got home less than an hour ago.
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/05/time-traveler-track-hung.html
Photos of the track in the air - another piece ready to go - and several supports up already. There is more track visible from the train. Did some detail shots on the station. HUGE update. Enjoy!
Did a quick scan of the SDC thread on TPR today - first time I've been there in about a month - a couple of you guys seem to be transfixed on this "turntable" thing where there are spinning and non-spinning trains. As cool as that might be, please explain where (with the current structure) they are going to fit that in the station.
Sorry. There's going to be one type of train. They said this is going to be a first of its kind. A traditional train has been done before. I think we all know what that means.
LaWayne, I'm still not convinced those are maintenance bays but it would make sense. IMHO they will have a track that rotates 180° and then the small 4 car train can go on in the bays. There's probably going to be a curved track that connects then to this swivel track.
Still being presumptuous, in my view.
The fact that they said it's going to be a "first of its kind" can be virtually anything. Why insinuate that "first its kind" is 100% related to the trains spinning?
What little has been shared from the park relating to this being first of its kind could mean the first multi-launch coaster with inversions in the U.S., the first Mack vertical lift coaster with multiple launches and inversions, etc.
Point being, clearly no one other than the PTB know what the definition of first of its kind means as it relates to this ride. I think its unfair and misguided to continue making making the assumption this claim is exclusively related to the technology within the train(s). If that comes to fruition, so be it.
Speaking of speculation, what about the idea of a vertical lift? They're obviously beefing up the support system right out of the station for a very definitive reason. Could a vertical lift be possible to give this coaster the height and/or drop to put it in some "first/tallest/fastest" category of its own? As it stands we haven't seen or heard anything suggesting this coaster will incorporate a significant lift hill or drop. Just throwing it out there for discussion. Seeing Cobras Curse and thinking about all of the work that continues around the station just got me wondering.
All that said, thanks Swoosh for the updates and pics you're sharing on the progress of the ride. Really appreciate all of the nuggets for someone who doesn't have the luxury of visiting as often as I would like.
At first it sounds like you are saying there will not be a turntable. Near the end you say there will be a swivel track that rotates 180°. Please explain the difference.
I do realize I rub people wrong at times, which has never been my intent. I think people like to jump to conclusions about me and read emotion into my text when there was never emotion intended. I can be straight to the point at times, though in my defense I work in education and have to put up with teenager stupidity and most of the time we don't have time for that - so you shut down the behavior and move on.
Truth be told, other than 3 posters on here, I have no ill feelings towards any of you. I don't know most of you in real life, how could I possibly hate you? Those that have met me in real life will tell you I am one of the nicest people you could meet.
Coaster is officially on RCDB, let's keep an eye on this as it gets updated. https://rcdb.com/15168.htm
As for the postings above, thanks again for the detailed photoblogging thats been done on the site. I have been sharing the updates quite a bit as I too am surprised by the lack of interest in the project minus a few YouTube video bloggers. I did discover recently some of my content made it on MIG as well. I have been doing a few progress videos of the project along with photos. If there is anything else I can provide I am glad to contribute since I visit the park fairly frequently.
One thing I'd like to point out is that there are trees on BOTH sides of the installed track. So not a full clean cut of the area after all.
I'm told it doesn't look hugely different than last week, but it probably depends where you are looking. I haven't seen the station in two weeks - I'm sure a lot has been done on that
At park now
On a side note, I am still really surprised by the lack of excitement or interest with the construction progress compared to other projects from what I can see on a lot of forums and social media groups regarding this coaster, even with the track now being on site. Or is it just me?
Another example on TPR, they are still giving hourly updates on Lightning Rod at Dollywood. lol ::)
Not sure where the Holidays in Midtown thread is, so I will post this here. As I walked thru Midtown the other day, I looked at the new platform, but saw something rather strange on it. It is a speaker. Im thinking this will be a popular place with some sort of tree or something set to music on it.
QuoteNot sure where the Holidays in Midtown thread is, so I will post this here. As I walked thru Midtown the other day, I looked at the new platform, but saw something rather strange on it. It is a speaker. Im thinking this will be a popular place with some sort of tree or something set to music on it.
I noted on my last trip they have new speakers all over mid town. I am not sure if the are going to play different music than on the square but there are a lot of speakers all over mid-town. The candle shop, Mary Springhouse, Grandfathers mansion. They will be doing something that involves a soundtrack in this area at Christmas I believe.
I would've thought we'd be getting "teaser" emails by now- that is, those of us that signed up for the emails (I'm thinking this entire board? ;))I would've thought we would have had a teaser by now too.
I am thinking about a solo trip next week. Probably Wed and Thursday. I will try and take my good DLSR and get some shots. Unfortunately, I have not had much luck in uploading to this site so not sure how I can post them. have tried everything but I always get my file size is to large message. Any ideas or I can just set up a Facebook link?
I am thinking about a solo trip next week. Probably Wed and Thursday. I will try and take my good DLSR and get some shots. Unfortunately, I have not had much luck in uploading to this site so not sure how I can post them. have tried everything but I always get my file size is to large message. Any ideas or I can just set up a Facebook link?
Runner, if you share them to the sdcfans Facebook page like what Laroy did, then Shave and I can share them for you
I will look into tweaking the settings again to allow for larger photos. We don't have a huge amount of storage space though, so I have to keep a reign on it. A lot of photos uploaded directly from cameras are deceivingly huge in filesize.
Facebook is good way to share photos, but you have to know how to do it publicly otherwise it can turn into a headache. Posting directly to the SDCFans page is a good way to do it though because I will see it and share it on the main feed.
There's also imgur.com, which is one of the better and easier to use free image hosting sites.
I have no clue what this new coaster is going to be and I have not made it to the park this year to see any of the construction. However, I was wondering if there is any chance or thought that this coaster might consist of multiple tracks with two trains launching at the same time. Just thinking out loud regarding some options that might make this ride, other than the spinning cars, a little different.
I will look into tweaking the settings again to allow for larger photos. We don't have a huge amount of storage space though, so I have to keep a reign on it. A lot of photos uploaded directly from cameras are deceivingly huge in filesize.
Facebook is good way to share photos, but you have to know how to do it publicly otherwise it can turn into a headache. Posting directly to the SDCFans page is a good way to do it though because I will see it and share it on the main feed.
There's also imgur.com, which is one of the better and easier to use free image hosting sites.
Just got to throw this out there again: if it does turn out to be a spinner, you've got to give it a chance. People loved the spinning car on Blue Fire. It's not the ridiculous spin-till-you-puke type of thing you might initially think. Imagine going through Wildfire's cobra roll sideways, or through the loop backwards. It's a different experience every time, but you aren't necessarily spinning constantly. Not to say that there wouldn't be some spinny sections though of course.
This is why I hope they do optional spinner seating while still having traditional train cars like they did on Blue Fire with it just being on the rear car or perhaps every other car or something of that nature, even if it means making a special queue line in the station like the two backwards cars TNT use to have, seems simple enough.
I am thinking about a solo trip next week. Probably Wed and Thursday. I will try and take my good DLSR and get some shots. Unfortunately, I have not had much luck in uploading to this site so not sure how I can post them. have tried everything but I always get my file size is to large message. Any ideas or I can just set up a Facebook link?
I am thinking about a solo trip next week. Probably Wed and Thursday. I will try and take my good DLSR and get some shots. Unfortunately, I have not had much luck in uploading to this site so not sure how I can post them. have tried everything but I always get my file size is to large message. Any ideas or I can just set up a Facebook link?
Did you make it down to the park?
^ Praying that appointment does bring good news!
In today's Springfield Business Journal, there is an article on Lisa Rau. It's kind of "Day in the Life" piece. It mentions a super secret morning meeting that she had.Quote"We're calling it MM18 - Mountain Mystery 2018," she says of the meeting. "Only the highest level people know right now: we haven't even told the employees yet."
Went ahead and provided the link to those interested, beyond the 2018 coaster talk its worth the read: http://sbj.net/Content/ENEWS-ARTICLES/ENEWS-ARTICLES/Article/Day-in-the-Life-With-Lisa-Rau/29/82/109666
^ Praying that appointment does bring good news!
Thank you.
I personally think you're trying to read too much into what Lisa Rau said.
1. Mountain - it is quite literally being built in the Ozark Mountains on the side of a hill
2. Mystery - no one "knows" what it is except the elite PTB
3. 18 - it is coming in 2018
I personally think you're trying to read too much into what Lisa Rau said.
1. Mountain - it is quite literally being built in the Ozark Mountains on the side of a hill
2. Mystery - no one "knows" what it is except the elite PTB
3. 18 - it is coming in 2018
Probably so, it's just that we know they share so many organization process assets on these rides. I am positive that at one point a lot of work was done on something similar to Mystery Mine for SDC based on what the chain got out of building that ride. Surely they would tap into that somehow if they are indeed building a highly themed coaster with a mine/mystery theme. Just a hunch.
They haven't made any references to the time traveler theme since the concept pitches. Either they are hiding it, or they went a different direction. For the last two coasters the final theme concept was different than anything in the pitches (that I can remember at least).
1. Next time you see me remind me to talk about that
2. Did you see the latest teaser sign? "Clock's Ticking..."
did anyone get any pictures this weekend ???
Still going slow with the track additions lately, but I'm very intrigued by the landscaping stone wall at the very bottom of the huge trench...
So to stoke the fires even more - Mack has previously done some other novel things with ride vehicles. There's another coaster of their's that rocks and shakes as it goes along the track. They are a very inventive and ambitious bunch and they can pretty much do anything they put their minds to. I've pondered all along that if this is a "spinning" coaster, that surely the spinning would be controlled or governed to some degree. Perhaps they will design a vehicle that can spin, tilt, maybe even vibrate or something? Perhaps the cars will spin on certain segments and go straight or even look backwards in others.
Lots of possibilities beyond spinning/not spinning.
Someone mentioned that Six Flags is trying to go for several "record holders" and "worlds first's" next year as well, so that's got me thinking about how many different things could be in the works...
Wow they are really digging out that area below the station for the first drop! I'd be stoked if this winds up being a dive tunnel of some sort! Either way I really hope they incorporate some pass thru elements or tunnels on this coaster as hinted upon in some of the concept art.
BTW to the owner of the photos, I am assuming you used some kind of zoom lens for this, or is it cropped?
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Wow they are really digging out that area below the station for the first drop! I'd be stoked if this winds up being a dive tunnel of some sort! Either way I really hope they incorporate some pass thru elements or tunnels on this coaster as hinted upon in some of the concept art.
BTW to the owner of the photos, I am assuming you used some kind of zoom lens for this, or is it cropped?
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The retaining wall tells me the track is going through that area and I doubt it'll be covered
I'm sure everybody has seen this and it's been posted before but I found this to be interesting!
https://youtu.be/I9_2BvSkNAs
OK, If this works I will be adding a couple of aerial photos... Make Note, these were taken from helicopter, flying over the highway, NOT over SDC airspace.. Pictures look ok, considering zoom lense. Not the retaing wall we have been talking about and the excavation that goes SE from there.. I think it is going to have a massive drop right there,,, :D
the other view really gives a great overall view of all the footings....
Also a little noise going on that this train will not stop to reload... slow pace, people in and out on loading... just what I heard this weekend.....
OK. pictures didnt load.. Hmm? i will contact shave and have him help me..
I forgot to thank Shave for helping me get these pics loaded up. Thanks.!
Now that you can see the retaingin walls and groundwork..
What is the building to the left of photo? framework on top of concrete bunker? NOT a tunnel? Maybe train storage or Maint? Seems odd to be positioned there with the main building being as massive as it is..?
On a side note, is it just me or did SDC block visitor posts and reviews on their FB page? I noticed that section on the right side appears empty and you cannot click on the "see posts". Did something happen or could this be related to the 2018 addition fearing people would post spoilers?
^Nah, pretty sure its been that way for awhile. A lot of big pages/brands have figured out that its better to not give too much of a soap box to their customers.
I don't think the little building thing is going to have track going through it in any capacity, at least in it's current form. It's too small. Who knows what they'll build on top of it, but it doesn't look like there are any major supports there - at least not yet. The concept art for the mine theme showed a tunnel somewhere...
Someone on FB mentioned Firechaser Express... the big swoops do kind of look like it. That would be kind of funny if it turned out to be a family coaster after all this - but I wouldn't be complaining. Firechaser is a fun ride, and I'm sure on some level the process of HFEC building it shaped how they approached this ride.
I agree that the retaining wall area looks like it will hold a drop... I just don't get why it is seemingly going to be outdoors? Would be perfect for a mine shaft like in the concept... Maybe there will be some other type of theming element added later.
Got to admit, I hate this building a ride over two seasons stuff...Riverblast, Outlaw Run, and this one...but I know the winter season ain't Nov. Thru March anymore, and the cost for a new attraction is crazy high and takes a couple of budget years to pay for it...but It does appear that this new thing is gonna be a hum dinger...if they stick with the time traveler thing I wonder if Uncle Rube Dugan makes a reappearance here and I admit I kind of hope he does...my ol' Uncle Rube is a fellow I am very much fond of. Been fun seeing all the photos being posted. I hope I can be there opening day next year to see how it all unfolds.
Got to admit, I hate this building a ride over two seasons stuff...Riverblast, Outlaw Run, and this one...but I know the winter season ain't Nov. Thru March anymore, and the cost for a new attraction is crazy high and takes a couple of budget years to pay for it...but It does appear that this new thing is gonna be a hum dinger...if they stick with the time traveler thing I wonder if Uncle Rube Dugan makes a reappearance here and I admit I kind of hope he does...my ol' Uncle Rube is a fellow I am very much fond of. Been fun seeing all the photos being posted. I hope I can be there opening day next year to see how it all unfolds.Great to see you post Junior!
Good to see Junio popping back up here, too.
Junior, wow. I never thought of bringing Rube Dugan back for this but it's a great idea. That would be some amazing fan service on HFE's part.
Junior, wow. I never thought of bringing Rube Dugan back for this but it's a great idea. That would be some amazing fan service on HFE's part.
I still think that if there was ever a time that SDC wanted to do a 4d, 6d, 7d, 3,000d attraction with screenz, it would be a new version of Diving Bell.
I'm a newbie when it comes to posting, but have been reading for a few years. I am unfamiliar with Rube Dugan so I googled it (what else would we do today, right?) and came across this old video. I'm sure at some point it may have been posted in a Forum in here somewhere, but I was in awe watching it. Good video of the park from the 70's. Sorry if it's inappropriate in posting in this specific forum. After googling it, I now remember the ride when i was a kid.
https://youtu.be/s-dpto8afjk
Yep, If that was early 70's the diving bell was not around yet.I'm a newbie when it comes to posting, but have been reading for a few years. I am unfamiliar with Rube Dugan so I googled it (what else would we do today, right?) and came across this old video. I'm sure at some point it may have been posted in a Forum in here somewhere, but I was in awe watching it. Good video of the park from the 70's. Sorry if it's inappropriate in posting in this specific forum. After googling it, I now remember the ride when i was a kid.
https://youtu.be/s-dpto8afjk
I honestly didn't see Rube Dugan's diving bell in that video. I did see the Jim Owen Float Trip though.
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/07/time-traveler-construction-sdc_13.html
The scaffolding supports for the exit bridge from the station has been installed.
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/07/time-traveler-construction-sdc_13.html
The scaffolding supports for the exit bridge from the station has been installed.
None of that was there Tuesday, but I got the idea they were staging for lifting some heavy loads into position in that location.
Cool update. :) Any idea where all the new track went? It disappeared from the back lot next to 76 while I was up there over the weekend but as far as I could tell no new track was hung. Have they arranged a more secretive site for staging the track?
^ Very interesting. Soooo, Gravity Redefined. That doesn't point to anything related to a mountain in my book. I wouldn't say gravity insinuates anything related directly to time travel either. However, the gratuitous addition of the gears throughout the design certainly does tie into that notion. The type treatment almost bears the markings of a steampunkish theme. Makes me think of Baron for some reason. Too bad this isn't going to be a dive coaster. This "Gravity Redefined" teaser sure has me spooked. Hoping that isn't some early nod to the dreaded spinning component we've hashed and rehashed for months.
And I thought we were due for an official public announcement on 8/16. This seems to indicate this is an internal announcement.
^ Very interesting. Soooo, Gravity Redefined. That doesn't point to anything related to a mountain in my book. I wouldn't say gravity insinuates anything related directly to time travel either. However, the gratuitous addition of the gears throughout the design certainly does tie into that notion. The type treatment almost bears the markings of a steampunkish theme. Makes me think of Baron for some reason. Too bad this isn't going to be a dive coaster. This "Gravity Redefined" teaser sure has me spooked. Hoping that isn't some early nod to the dreaded spinning component we've hashed and rehashed for months.
And I thought we were due for an official public announcement on 8/16. This seems to indicate this is an internal announcement.
I think someone mentioned this awhile ago, but I just noticed google maps updated the imagery for SDC. You can now see the construction site as of approximately last January. https://www.google.com/maps/@36.6691855,-93.3368531,216m/data=!3m1!1e3
I hadn't checked in awhile, but I swear it wasn't updated for me when I last checked.
I just realized how much acreage they left on the table, though a lot of it is hillside. I'm sure any more clearing and leveling would have driven up costs exponentially. This ride is squeezed in there, but there are still a ton of footers.
I think someone mentioned this awhile ago, but I just noticed google maps updated the imagery for SDC. You can now see the construction site as of approximately last January. https://www.google.com/maps/@36.6691855,-93.3368531,216m/data=!3m1!1e3
I hadn't checked in awhile, but I swear it wasn't updated for me when I last checked.
I just realized how much acreage they left on the table, though a lot of it is hillside. I'm sure any more clearing and leveling would have driven up costs exponentially. This ride is squeezed in there, but there are still a ton of footers.
I missed what looks like "massive" excavation? concrete? footers? on the NE corner of project... there was some major work going on there..
that would indicate lots of weight. or maybe allowing for lots of "g-forces"? Or??????
QuoteI missed what looks like "massive" excavation? concrete? footers? on the NE corner of project... there was some major work going on there..
that would indicate lots of weight. or maybe allowing for lots of "g-forces"? Or??????
Would be cool if this is the early makings of a themed passthrough or tunnel element. Thinking the train could drop straight out of the station, bank left, into an immelmann loop then into this element.
Betting that's a walkway in and a walkway out stacked. They would probably not want to run the ride over a walkway intentionally, the netting and what not gets ugly. Thinking this is to avoid the cost of an elevator and to keep the ADA happy.
Also looking at the picture the fire escape they built on the side of the building is not sufficient for the evacuation of people from that tower. I would think they would want more people out at once to satisfy fire codes. That building would be hard to evacuate with 900 people in the Q inside that building. Any of the other rides you can jump the railing to the ground or escape through non-path escapes but not when you are 3-5 stories up. This might be overkill because of the fire code. Maybe the bottom or top is a supplemental fire escape route.
I don't think that fire escape is for guests hence why it's not very big. Besides if it is for getting riders off a train it would 16 at most at a time.
QuoteI don't think that fire escape is for guests hence why it's not very big. Besides if it is for getting riders off a train it would 16 at most at a time.
Thats why I think this could be a double pathway out/in. Fun to speculate.
Except the "lower level" of the truss comes to a solid wall so that won't work.Much more informed. Now I wonder what hole will be the entrance exit and how will they work it all it.
QuoteExcept the "lower level" of the truss comes to a solid wall so that won't work.Much more informed. Now I wonder what hole will be the entrance exit and how will they work it all it.
Total revamp of that area. I hope they keep it quaint.
Swoosh, what do you think this new iron work is?
^The pottery shop will be transformed for this and will sell only Grecian Urns. Other racks in the store will also offer Parthenon snow globes, Zeus lightning hats, and Nike shoes.
The park calls it the biggest attraction EVER. It says will by more than double in size than any other attraction.Again Wildfire is their biggest and most expensive coaster overall. I am very anxious to see how project 2018 will top it.
On a side note, have fun reading over on the KY3 Facebook page, lol @ the comments on the article.
August 16th absolutely cannot come soon enough! I just can't take much more of the speculation; I gotta have answers! ;D
So August 16 is only like 3 weeks away! It's nuts how fast the summer has gone by and how close we are to the final reveal!
I got an invite today to come out for the announcement ceremony. I will do my best to live-blog to the FB page during.
Let's make sure we can keep the excitement going through the announcement by keeping a lock on any info that shouldn't be public. Anything that isn't an observation or pure speculation should go unsaid until afterwards. Don't go interrogating the dippin dots guy when we're this close!
KY3 posted this yesterday... http://www.ky3.com/content/news/Silver-Dollar-City-reveals-a-few-details-about-new-attraction-435913793.html
Again this keeps getting emphasized:QuoteThe park calls it the biggest attraction EVER. It says will by more than double in size than any other attraction.Again Wildfire is their biggest and most expensive coaster overall. I am very anxious to see how project 2018 will top it.
On a side note, have fun reading over on the KY3 Facebook page, lol @ the comments on the article.
KY3 posted this yesterday... http://www.ky3.com/content/news/Silver-Dollar-City-reveals-a-few-details-about-new-attraction-435913793.html
Again this keeps getting emphasized:QuoteThe park calls it the biggest attraction EVER. It says will by more than double in size than any other attraction.Again Wildfire is their biggest and most expensive coaster overall. I am very anxious to see how project 2018 will top it.
On a side note, have fun reading over on the KY3 Facebook page, lol @ the comments on the article.
Are we SURE that this coaster won't go through Mavel Cave? With teasers like that, its gotta be something unimaginable.
KY3 posted this yesterday... http://www.ky3.com/content/news/Silver-Dollar-City-reveals-a-few-details-about-new-attraction-435913793.html
Again this keeps getting emphasized:QuoteThe park calls it the biggest attraction EVER. It says will by more than double in size than any other attraction.Again Wildfire is their biggest and most expensive coaster overall. I am very anxious to see how project 2018 will top it.
On a side note, have fun reading over on the KY3 Facebook page, lol @ the comments on the article.
Are we SURE that this coaster won't go through Mavel Cave? With teasers like that, its gotta be something unimaginable.
There is a absolute 0 % chance of that happening.
So August 16 is only like 3 weeks away! It's nuts how fast the summer has gone by and how close we are to the final reveal!
I got an invite today to come out for the announcement ceremony. I will do my best to live-blog to the FB page during.
Let's make sure we can keep the excitement going through the announcement by keeping a lock on any info that shouldn't be public. Anything that isn't an observation or pure speculation should go unsaid until afterwards. Don't go interrogating the dippin dots guy when we're this close!
I received an invite as well - trying to arrange things so that I can also attend. Shave I'll let you know and if I can go we can hang out that day and tag-team on coverage. We could also do a quasi-live podcast from the event. The tour of the site is what has me sold on going.
How are people getting invites and do you need and invite to attend I really want to be there.
I am curious about the phrase Gravity "redefined". Instead of it shooting out of the station and plummeting downward, could it go in reverse up that giant hill?? That would be a 1st of its kind (i think).
I'll be able to tell you in 15 days. We are getting a tour of the facility and I plan on asking lots of questions
I'll be able to tell you in 15 days. We are getting a tour of the facility and I plan on asking lots of questions
;D, ready for the additional, accurate info!!
nice pics. But what does the lower level of steel look like it is connecting to the opening in the building? ???
There are no studs in the wall there.. Hmm?
I would agree with you, yes they appear to be attached to metal framework... BUT why the opening there? and why no studs? to attach exterior wall, you would need studs.. normally you would not add them later?nice pics. But what does the lower level of steel look like it is connecting to the opening in the building? ???
There are no studs in the wall there.. Hmm?
Are they not attached the vertical metal supports of the building? I thought they were. ???
Just got an email from SDC with this link: https://vimeo.com/227940837
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXVqbXLhKPL/?taken-by=silverdollarcityattractions
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXVqbXLhKPL/?taken-by=silverdollarcityattractions
Quoting Jules Verne? Hmm. It's too vague for me to understand......................... ::)
How about waiting until the 16th before writing it off as not being able to "tie into the city"
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXVqbXLhKPL/?taken-by=silverdollarcityattractions
Quoting Jules Verne? Hmm. It's too vague for me to understand......................... ::)
Just found this posted on Facebook. Look at that drop! Mack spinning/dive coaster?
I think this confirms the tower plunge part that was seen in all the concepts.
Every Jules Verne design had some sort of wings.
It's a 90 degree drop that goes down 70-100 feet and ends below the hill into a dugout canal and back into a half loop. There is a 2nd half loop with a large section of straight track erected crossing by the bottom of the drop. This track leads to the small rectangular building. Inversions and launches are pretty much confirmed now.did you get any pics of the other track you speak of or just the drop? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Could the area highlighted in red be support / mounting area for a dive coaster holding brake?could be but i kinda hope not... id rather have a traditional mack train than a big dipper type train and i don't think they would use a holding brake for an average train (unless its 3 cars long which could be kinda cool). capacity reasons are why. maybe its just for sensors or a trim. but we shall see. it should be great either way. ;)
Could the area highlighted in red be support / mounting area for a dive coaster holding brake?could be but i kinda hope not... id rather have a traditional mack train than a big dipper type train and i don't think they would use a holding brake for an average train (unless its 3 cars long which could be kinda cool). capacity reasons are why. maybe its just for sensors or a trim. but we shall see. it should be great either way. ;)
Could the area highlighted in red be support / mounting area for a dive coaster holding brake?could be but i kinda hope not... id rather have a traditional mack train than a big dipper type train and i don't think they would use a holding brake for an average train (unless its 3 cars long which could be kinda cool). capacity reasons are why. maybe its just for sensors or a trim. but we shall see. it should be great either way. ;)
Show building? do you know something we don't? ???Could the area highlighted in red be support / mounting area for a dive coaster holding brake?could be but i kinda hope not... id rather have a traditional mack train than a big dipper type train and i don't think they would use a holding brake for an average train (unless its 3 cars long which could be kinda cool). capacity reasons are why. maybe its just for sensors or a trim. but we shall see. it should be great either way. ;)
What Flys without wings is a spinning disk
With the different sections of track and the show building, they'll be more than one train on the course at once. Thus kinda upping theorical capacity. That looks like a dive coaster feature to me.
Encountered a truck as I was leaving bringing more track and supports onsite. You can see more of the layout here.when will the video be out?
I got much better shots on my DSLR which I will edit and upload later tonight. Along with video.
And here is a general idea of where new track has been placed using the overhead view shot that was posted a few weeks ago.the way you drew it out makes it look like there will be a little speed bump in between the drop and first inversion
This is the part that has me most baffled. Maybe it is just temporary for the construction workers to use to cross the load channel?
I know a couple have made mention of this but here is an enlarged picture of it. Anyone wanna take additional guesses as to what the heck this might be? It's not present on any of the other track segnents from what I can tell.
I know a couple have made mention of this but here is an enlarged picture of it. Anyone wanna take additional guesses as to what the heck this might be? It's not present on any of the other track segnents from what I can tell.
It's teeth for the train to hold still before the 90 degree dive.
I know that it doesn't look like it will be the Mack that is kinda of a wing coasters like SkyRush at Hershey's. We almost had a winged dive coaster, two B&Ms in one basically :P
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Really going with Jules Verne here, if he is in the theme , what I wouldn't give a whole rework of Grand Expo with Jules Verne themed flats, talk about a plethora of options.
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Really going with Jules Verne here, if he is in the theme , what I wouldn't give a whole rework of Grand Expo with Jules Verne themed flats, talk about a plethora of options.
Kind of a Tomorrowland as seen from the 1880s
An inventor inspired by the previous works of Doctor Horatio Harris with his Wildfire creation has set up shop on the outskirts of Silver Dollar City to create his own flying machine. After years of development at his Ozark mountain workshop, the machine is finally tested in 1888 using a never before seen power source. The machine careens out of the workshop and down the side of the mountain, at the last second it defies gravity and finally takes to the sky but somehow manages to be launched thru time as well. The stunned inventor returns to the present time (1888) Silver Dollar City to tell the citizens of what had transpired and was met with harsh skepticism, in fear he would be ran out of town as a heretic or worse, suffer ridicule from Dr. Harris himself who he looked up to as an idol, he offers the citizens an opportunity to see the future (or the past) at their leisure by taking a ride in this machine to prove himself.
"The coaster itself will be unlike anything previously seen but it will have lots of retro sci-fi and steampunk theming like what you've already seen on Wildfire."This info should probably be taken with a grain of salt, but with it being this close to the announcement maybe they caught wind of the info. I was kinda hesitant to post this as there was more to that conversation.
I am amazed we dont have any pics of the loop in place or any other progress reports. Anyone going soon?As a matter of fact i will be there this weekend, going down on friday.. I will see what i can get ;)
I am amazed we dont have any pics of the loop in place or any other progress reports. Anyone going soon?
As a matter of fact i will be there this weekend, going down on friday.. I will see what i can get ;)
You cant tell us more of what you know?
I am amazed we dont have any pics of the loop in place or any other progress reports. Anyone going soon?
You can't see the completed loop unless you ride TNT anyway.
There's no good way to get legal pics of the loops in clear view, but you should be able to get some kind of shot from the EH bathrooms. The problem is that they aren't very large apparently. The drop really is one of the tallest elements of the coaster. It's packed into the valley. I guess that's part of how EH will still be able to operate. Probably need a sound wall still just for the drop.
^But not always. Adding something around the drop would make it more thrilling and leave that door open. I hope that is the plan. Looks pretty barren around the track so far, no signs of any theme elements down there yet. They are promising some kind of "world-footprint" though...
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^But not always. Adding something around the drop would make it more thrilling and leave that door open. I hope that is the plan. Looks pretty barren around the track so far, no signs of any theme elements down there yet. They are promising some kind of "world-footprint" though...I hope if they do they have a cool effect that makes it look like your actually time traveling or going though a wormhole and so on. ;D
I kinda think the legitimate time travel theme would be kind of hokey and out of the tongue-in-cheek nature of the rest of the park. The original pitch with the con artists was a lot more suitable, IMO. There are ways to do it, like sdcfan88 laid out, but meh... I'd like it to have some kind of tie in with the city, as they always do. I'm sure they came up with something good.
The layout I saw pretty much matched earlier pencil drawings that were leaked. I guess we'll see.
The layout I saw pretty much matched earlier pencil drawings that were leaked. I guess we'll see.
Can you describe the order of elements?
Also sending me a PM asking where it is ... come on guys (and gals). We all agreed to not spoil it for everyone else. You have less than a week before Christmas. You can last (or you search for yourself)
Also sending me a PM asking where it is ... come on guys (and gals). We all agreed to not spoil it for everyone else. You have less than a week before Christmas. You can last (or you search for yourself)
You have to admit - you asked for that.
How about we all just wait for the announcement and let SDC be the ones to present their new creation to us as they wanted it to be presented. Good things come to those who wait!
I've scoured the internet looking for said leaked layout and it's nowhere to be found. And stuff like that spreads quickly so I'm having my doubts.
Let's not encourage anything to be spread further just in case it is a real leak. I am hoping/suspecting it is fake or just fan artwork. We are so close in any case.
I'm much more worried about a news site publishing early in the morning. SDC will undoubtedly send the info out to dozens of organizations near and far, and a lot of places will write their stories the day before and load it up to auto-publish the day of the announcement. Sometimes it gets inserted into the morning news on accident - exactly what happened last week with the SFFT Wonder Woman announcement at 5am.
Probably all the same difference as long as we make it to Wednesday though.
Trust me, the good folks at SDC are much more concerned about Swoosh baiting people on spoilers than they are about legitimate reporting by local news outlets. I can promise you that.
^^Didn't SDC announce the announcement before CP? I'm also kind of surprised CF would want to announce their new coasters all on the same day.
^^Didn't SDC announce the announcement before CP? I'm also kind of surprised CF would want to announce their new coasters all on the same day.
I don't think Cedar Fair would be much concerned at all, honestly. They see SDC as a smaller regional park that isn't in any sort of real direct competition with them (slightly with Worlds of Fun, but not with any of their other parks), so outside of enthusiast circles they wouldn't see it as a distraction at all.
and enthusiast circles really don't have anywhere near as much influence and impact as they would like to think they do. :-)
I think their parks really cater to different crowds than SDC. Most of their parks are just regional parks. SDC is a mid-level destination park. (On the same level as a Busch Gardens or Sea Wkrld but not a Disney or Universal)
I think their parks really cater to different crowds than SDC. Most of their parks are just regional parks. SDC is a mid-level destination park. (On the same level as a Busch Gardens or Sea Wkrld but not a Disney or Universal)
Not to argue with you (well, ok, maybe a little. hehe) but SDC is much more a regional park than many of the Cedar Fair parks are. Knott's Berry Farm, Cedar Point, and King's Island all bring in visitors from around the world (and all 3 have more than 3 times the attendance of SDC), whereas SDC really draws from 4 states- Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and to a lesser extent Texas. While we might like to think it's a destination park, it really isn't. It's crowds are very much regional, and the vast majority are from within 2 hours. It's numbers and drawing power are nowhere near what many of the Cedar Fair parks are. And then there is the fact that they only have one park that has any sort of overlapping sphere of influence with SDC (Worlds of Fun).
So really, SDC is a mere blip in Cedar Fair's eyes and nothing they are going to concern themselves with when it comes to competition for their announcements. For them they really wouldn't care if SDC is making the announcement the same day. They're dealing with a much larger audience with a much broader reach than SDC does.
Edit- or to put it another way, there are reasons that SDC plans it's operating schedules around local school districts' calendars and the Cedar Fair parks generally don't.
Here is a few new pics, steel hanging.. drop out of building looks complete. taken from hiway, no trespassing..LOL...
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Here is a few new pics, steel hanging.. drop out of building looks complete. taken from hiway, no trespassing..LOL...
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Great photos! I embedded them here for those interested. This coaster is really getting insane in a hurry! I am definately getting Helix/Taron vibes from the layout.Is it just me or does the bottom of the half loop part of the inversion look like it doesn't have enough time to curve up before hitting the ground... Maybe this could mean a tunnel but chances are very low. :-\
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Wow, this looks incredible. I don't know why it just occurred to me but does anyone think there is any chance SDC avoids having to do a ton of theming by going the route of virtual reality? A lot of coasters are doing that these days.
It would allow them to blast us to whatever time period they wanted and there could be multiple variations of the ride. However, if this thing does spin and have virtual reality then that could make a lot of people very nauseous.
Wow, this looks incredible. I don't know why it just occurred to me but does anyone think there is any chance SDC avoids having to do a ton of theming by going the route of virtual reality? A lot of coasters are doing that these days.v
It would allow them to blast us to whatever time period they wanted and there could be multiple variations of the ride. However, if this thing does spin and have virtual reality then that could make a lot of people very nauseous.
Dang it Lorrie - you have to warn me that you are going to post photos. I was tied up with Drum Corp International Championships today in Indy. ;)
If you are having trouble viewing the photos on Facebook or embedded above (due to size) you can now view them on MIG as well http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/08/time-traveler-construction-sdc_12.html
Dang it Lorrie - you have to warn me that you are going to post photos. I was tied up with Drum Corp International Championships today in Indy. ;)
If you are having trouble viewing the photos on Facebook or embedded above (due to size) you can now view them on MIG as well http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/08/time-traveler-construction-sdc_12.html
Maybe I will warn you next time... I was able to get pics late friday afternoon, then got computer access at the Motel... Normall I dont have computer available until i get home...
In an email from the park, they mentioned the station having AC. I'm guessing this means it could be kind of like Wildfire's station? Probably lots of theming inside that will be kind of similar. I do love the highly themed stations.
Y'all shouldn't have posted those pics (particularly on this site) even with the gate open. The park has been saving that. Even the drop perspective out of the station. That's equivalent to posting pics of OR's barrel rolls on here a few days before the official announcement even though they were out there.
I appreciate the sentiment, but if it's visible from within the park or the road, people are going to see it. If they see it, they are going to take pictures and share them. The theme park paparazzi goes way back to even before the internet. It's just part of all the excitement leading up to the announcement.
My rule is that as long as there is no trespassing or rule breaking then go ahead - everyone's going to see it anyway. I don't want anything "leaked", but in this case everyone who has been to the park for the last month has seen this giant drop. They aren't exactly trying to hide it. OR's barrel rolls were kind of different because they really were trying to hide them, but I think they were too close to the train tracks so people figured it out anyway, aside from all the leaks.
The drop picture must have been taken by a sub contractor. The employees I know are smart enough to keep that stuff to themselves until the announcement has been made, but they've been bringing in all sorts of workers to finish the station. I wouldn't normally allow it, but it was already out and it didn't show much more than what we had already seen.
Y'all shouldn't have posted those pics (particularly on this site) even with the gate open. The park has been saving that. Even the drop perspective out of the station. That's equivalent to posting pics of OR's barrel rolls on here a few days before the official announcement even though they were out there.
I appreciate the sentiment, but if it's visible from within the park or the road, people are going to see it. If they see it, they are going to take pictures and share them. The theme park paparazzi goes way back to even before the internet. It's just part of all the excitement leading up to the announcement.
My rule is that as long as there is no trespassing or rule breaking then go ahead - everyone's going to see it anyway. I don't want anything "leaked", but in this case everyone who has been to the park for the last month has seen this giant drop. They aren't exactly trying to hide it. OR's barrel rolls were kind of different because they really were trying to hide them, but I think they were too close to the train tracks so people figured it out anyway, aside from all the leaks.
The drop picture must have been taken by a sub contractor. The employees I know are smart enough to keep that stuff to themselves until the announcement has been made, but they've been bringing in all sorts of workers to finish the station. I wouldn't normally allow it, but it was already out and it didn't show much more than what we had already seen.
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Are you kidding me? Why would you cover the natural scenery of this ride up with some VR glasses?
Y'all shouldn't have posted those pics (particularly on this site) even with the gate open. The park has been saving that. Even the drop perspective out of the station. That's equivalent to posting pics of OR's barrel rolls on here a few days before the official announcement even though they were out there.
I appreciate the sentiment, but if it's visible from within the park or the road, people are going to see it. If they see it, they are going to take pictures and share them. The theme park paparazzi goes way back to even before the internet. It's just part of all the excitement leading up to the announcement.
My rule is that as long as there is no trespassing or rule breaking then go ahead - everyone's going to see it anyway. I don't want anything "leaked", but in this case everyone who has been to the park for the last month has seen this giant drop. They aren't exactly trying to hide it. OR's barrel rolls were kind of different because they really were trying to hide them, but I think they were too close to the train tracks so people figured it out anyway, aside from all the leaks.
The drop picture must have been taken by a sub contractor. The employees I know are smart enough to keep that stuff to themselves until the announcement has been made, but they've been bringing in all sorts of workers to finish the station. I wouldn't normally allow it, but it was already out and it didn't show much more than what we had already seen.
Noted. They aren't exactly trying to share it out either. But yeah, it would have been fun to see some of that all at once on the big day. But I do realize it's out there and so be it. I'll be there Wednesday as well so see ya there!
I suppose you never notice the numerous Kansas, Nebraska, Illinois and Tennessee plates in lot that we see every time we go. It's even more of a national attraction due to it's Christmas Lights always being included in so many "best of" lists. Believe it or not Memphis and North Ms. is a pretty big market for SDC. It's closer than Dollywood.
I've never said to myself, I gotta go to Knotts Berry. It's always has been a "maybe we can fit in" place. Cedar Point is a major draw due to it's coasters no doubt.
I have said numerous times SDC and Dollywood are the best "all around" parks between the Rockies and the Appalachians/Smokies.
Did you also get a media invite or are you just going to be at the park?
FWIW, the photo of the drop from the station was originally a snap on Snap Chat. The uncropped photo (minus the name) is on MIG. The telltale sign that it was taken on Snap Chat is the time circle in the upper right corner
1 Day 18 hours left to go, and I noticed something interesting, that I'm not sure means anything at all, but could be a hint as well.
If you go to their page with the countdown http://www.silverdollarcity.com/theme-park/2018 and you look at the clock, which is broken down into 3 parts: Days, Hours and Minutes, they tend to flash quickly from the actual number to other numbers: Days shows 900, Hours shows 88, and Minutes Shows 923.
Any idea if it's just a glitch in the page coding or if those might actually mean something?
I find the random numbers that align on the dial further below to be quite interesting. Could the numbers hint towards the ride specs for the coaster nerds to droll over and speculate over? lol
8479 = Track Length?
1105 = Riders Per Hour?
2015 = Year it was conceived?
1 Day 18 hours left to go, and I noticed something interesting, that I'm not sure means anything at all, but could be a hint as well.
If you go to their page with the countdown http://www.silverdollarcity.com/theme-park/2018 and you look at the clock, which is broken down into 3 parts: Days, Hours and Minutes, they tend to flash quickly from the actual number to other numbers: Days shows 900, Hours shows 88, and Minutes Shows 923.
Any idea if it's just a glitch in the page coding or if those might actually mean something?
24 hours left...
A recap on the top three possibilities from what we know:that would be cool if they did it to where the front car was stationary and the others were spinning. (maybe even a stationary back backwards car too)
#1 Helix-esque coaster with possibly the most inversions or fastest speed. A first being the steepest vertical drop on a Mack Mega Launch Coaster. Expect incredible G-forces and/or airtime.
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#2 As mentioned before a while back, this could still possibly be the first true Mack Dive Coaster using their new Big Dipper cars. While that alone being a first, it may also include the fact that it would be the longest Dive Coaster ever built and the first Dive Coaster with launch elements. (I do not count Lost Gravity as one as it is more of a Eurofighter in terms of its layout.)
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#3 The widely rumored Extreme Spinning Coaster. Same layout as the Mega Launch Coaster but with a multi-car coaster train that either has all cars spinning or some spinning. Several launch elements/sections will be included along with possible elements/sections that will do a controlled rotation thru segments of the ride like Cobras Curse. Firsts will of course be the first spinning coaster with a vertical drop and the first with inversions. (If you do not count Blue Fire with the spinning car on the rear)
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1 Day 18 hours left to go, and I noticed something interesting, that I'm not sure means anything at all, but could be a hint as well.
If you go to their page with the countdown http://www.silverdollarcity.com/theme-park/2018 and you look at the clock, which is broken down into 3 parts: Days, Hours and Minutes, they tend to flash quickly from the actual number to other numbers: Days shows 900, Hours shows 88, and Minutes Shows 923.
Any idea if it's just a glitch in the page coding or if those might actually mean something?
Top speed of 88mph?
1 Day 18 hours left to go, and I noticed something interesting, that I'm not sure means anything at all, but could be a hint as well.
If you go to their page with the countdown http://www.silverdollarcity.com/theme-park/2018 and you look at the clock, which is broken down into 3 parts: Days, Hours and Minutes, they tend to flash quickly from the actual number to other numbers: Days shows 900, Hours shows 88, and Minutes Shows 923.
Any idea if it's just a glitch in the page coding or if those might actually mean something?
Top speed of 88mph?
88 mph was the speed the DeLorean had to get up to go back in time in Back to the Future. Coincidence?
Sitting in red gold now waiting for the announcement. I'm focusing on keeping the FB page updated since that is easiest. Lots of excitement! Swoosh and sdcfan88 are getting great footage.
All spinning. That's a huge letdown for me. :(
Will be very interesting to see how ridership looks given its sure to appeal to a more limited audience. Man, what a bummer. I would think they would at least give the rider the choice of whether or not to spin.
All spinning. That's a huge letdown for me. :(
All spinning. That's a huge letdown for me. :(
I was concerned about that. But it sounds like with their "control" that the spinning won't be bad. It won't be the high speed, dizziness inducing kind of spinning. Sounds like a slower speed that will be more like a slow turn rather than a spin that will just change your perspective as you ride.
I think some of you are getting scared easily, if you can ride OR then I wouldn't think you will have problems with a controlled spin on TT.
Watched it LIVE, enjoyed the many references to SDC's past, along with their family values which they still seem to hold. Enjoyed Jack and Pete's little video segment at the beginning.
Doesn't look like there is going to be any theming throughout the ride (bummer) along with no tunnels (Bummer). The spinning is still a concern. I am sure I will be the only one in my family who will be able to ride it.
I would have like to seen what their plans are for the massive station they are building.
Looks like a GREAT ride overall, very excited....just missing the theming.
I feel like they made a misstep. The last thing you really want to have to convince people of right off the bat "this won't make you puke......no really". That's a uphill battle from there. They made a mistake. The lines in 2 years will dictate if I am correct.
I feel like they made a misstep. The last thing you really want to have to convince people of right off the bat "this won't make you puke......no really". That's a uphill battle from there. They made a mistake. The lines in 2 years will dictate if I am correct.
I hope we get more theming than was presented in the video. And while it won't effect me, I do think SDC will face an uphill battle in marketing to people who do not like spinning. I think the controlled spin will definitely help and the animation didn't look out of control to me. It just looks more like a turning motion than spinning. I think everyone should give it a chance before immediately shooting it down.
This looks like a great addition to the park and will offer something completely different from anything they have. I can't wait for 2018 to come to enjoy this amazing new addition. Three inversions, two launches, that first drop! Looks crazy and fun to me!
I hope we get more theming than was presented in the video. And while it won't effect me, I do think SDC will face an uphill battle in marketing to people who do not like spinning. I think the controlled spin will definitely help and the animation didn't look out of control to me. It just looks more like a turning motion than spinning. I think everyone should give it a chance before immediately shooting it down.
This looks like a great addition to the park and will offer something completely different from anything they have. I can't wait for 2018 to come to enjoy this amazing new addition. Three inversions, two launches, that first drop! Looks crazy and fun to me!
The animation doesn't show any spinning at all beyond the inversions. It just shows a traditional rider POV.
I hope we get more theming than was presented in the video. And while it won't effect me, I do think SDC will face an uphill battle in marketing to people who do not like spinning. I think the controlled spin will definitely help and the animation didn't look out of control to me. It just looks more like a turning motion than spinning. I think everyone should give it a chance before immediately shooting it down.
This looks like a great addition to the park and will offer something completely different from anything they have. I can't wait for 2018 to come to enjoy this amazing new addition. Three inversions, two launches, that first drop! Looks crazy and fun to me!
So, I'm not completely understanding the "controlled spin". Assuming this means that the spin is controlled but it is computer controlled through the ride and not the rider?
So, I'm not completely understanding the "controlled spin". Assuming this means that the spin is controlled but it is computer controlled through the ride and not the rider?
I hope we get more theming than was presented in the video. And while it won't effect me, I do think SDC will face an uphill battle in marketing to people who do not like spinning. I think the controlled spin will definitely help and the animation didn't look out of control to me. It just looks more like a turning motion than spinning. I think everyone should give it a chance before immediately shooting it down.
This looks like a great addition to the park and will offer something completely different from anything they have. I can't wait for 2018 to come to enjoy this amazing new addition. Three inversions, two launches, that first drop! Looks crazy and fun to me!
The animation doesn't show any spinning at all beyond the inversions. It just shows a traditional rider POV.
You can see the spinning in the animation. I wasn't just talking about the POV.
Since I cannot do tight circles like tea cups and the such...
NOTHING has been said by anyone about that building...?? it has a full concrete basemen/bunker under it. But no indication of what it is...
Since I cannot do tight circles like tea cups and the such...
I wonder if it will be less of an issue since you will be facing out from the center of the spinning on Time Traveler instead of facing in on something like tea cups.
If anyone thinks the "controlled spinning" on TT is going to be more tame than this on any level, I think you're kidding yourself. I just scanned the comments from SDC's official announcement on FB and I would say at least 25-33% of the comments echo the concerns about spinning and being bummed about never getting on the ride.
I think some of you are getting scared easily, if you can ride OR then I wouldn't think you will have problems with a controlled spin on TT.
Couldn't disagree more. It's physics. And lateral forces induced from spinning have far different effects on the body than simply the sensation of going upside down. I could ride OR 15 times without an issue, but can't get near the Electrospin in GE.
I hope we get more theming than was presented in the video. And while it won't effect me, I do think SDC will face an uphill battle in marketing to people who do not like spinning. I think the controlled spin will definitely help and the animation didn't look out of control to me. It just looks more like a turning motion than spinning. I think everyone should give it a chance before immediately shooting it down.
This looks like a great addition to the park and will offer something completely different from anything they have. I can't wait for 2018 to come to enjoy this amazing new addition. Three inversions, two launches, that first drop! Looks crazy and fun to me!
The animation doesn't show any spinning at all beyond the inversions. It just shows a traditional rider POV.
I hope we get more theming than was presented in the video. And while it won't effect me, I do think SDC will face an uphill battle in marketing to people who do not like spinning. I think the controlled spin will definitely help and the animation didn't look out of control to me. It just looks more like a turning motion than spinning. I think everyone should give it a chance before immediately shooting it down.
This looks like a great addition to the park and will offer something completely different from anything they have. I can't wait for 2018 to come to enjoy this amazing new addition. Three inversions, two launches, that first drop! Looks crazy and fun to me!
The animation doesn't show any spinning at all beyond the inversions. It just shows a traditional rider POV.
I think that was just to show the layout of the track from that perspective. On the long shots from "outside" the train it appears it spins or rotates the whole time, right out of the station.
My wife and I probably won't care for this coaster much. All the spinning coupled with inversions is specifically meant for a younger thrill ride enthusiast crowd. But that is fine with us if this ride will at least draw some of the crowd away from Powder Keg, FITH, Wildfire area in the coming years.
Outlaw Run will be an old west ghost town in the future. It's already the easiest ride to get on in the city. I assume that's because it has gotten so rough. My wife and I will only ride in one of the first two rows nowadays and usually only once per visit. This could be good for getting on the Swing as well.
Gonna suck for the Thunderation/Flooded Mine/Train area for awhile though.
The teenagers should love Time Traveler. Gonna be a lot of screamers on that one for sure.
If anyone thinks the "controlled spinning" on TT is going to be more tame than this on any level, I think you're kidding yourself. I just scanned the comments from SDC's official announcement on FB and I would say at least 25-33% of the comments echo the concerns about spinning and being bummed about never getting on the ride.
I think you need to go back to the video and listen to Brad Thomas' comments about the spinning. What you're talking about on Spinning Dragons is EXACTLY what Brad said he DOESN'T want on the coaster- free, fast spinning that can get people sick. Much to much spinning, much to fast, and this will NOT do that. It is a very slow rotation that has built in brake controls so that it can not spin fast. This has no chance of getting you dizzy or disoriented anymore than any other coaster because of how slow they are going to allow the cars to spin.
I understand your fears, but I don't think you're understanding the limits they are putting on the rotating that will prevent what you are afraid of.
My wife and I discussed this same thing. I wonder what kind of excitement would have been generated by a Larger version of the "Wildcat" from Celebration City smoothly plunging through the same terrain? MUCH larger base of riders and conversely a larger season pass sales uptick. Too much emphasis on "firsts". Top Wooden rollercoaster would have the same effect on coaster enthusiasts.
If anyone thinks the "controlled spinning" on TT is going to be more tame than this on any level, I think you're kidding yourself. I just scanned the comments from SDC's official announcement on FB and I would say at least 25-33% of the comments echo the concerns about spinning and being bummed about never getting on the ride.
I think you need to go back to the video and listen to Brad Thomas' comments about the spinning. What you're talking about on Spinning Dragons is EXACTLY what Brad said he DOESN'T want on the coaster- free, fast spinning that can get people sick. Much to much spinning, much to fast, and this will NOT do that. It is a very slow rotation that has built in brake controls so that it can not spin fast. This has no chance of getting you dizzy or disoriented anymore than any other coaster because of how slow they are going to allow the cars to spin.
I understand your fears, but I don't think you're understanding the limits they are putting on the rotating that will prevent what you are afraid of.
Sure hope you're right, but I'm not buying it. Spinning is spinning and as I pointed out in an earlier post produces forces far different from that of other more traditional coasters. I think it's comical that this coaster's uniqueness was sold on it being a spinning coaster that does XYZ, but Brad had to go out of his way to downplay the very thing that is supposed to make it unlike any other in the world.
I do think it only fair to reserve full judgement until the ride is operational, but whether you're on board with the spinning element or not, as long as it does spin, I am shocked that SDC chose to bank their largest investment in history with a ride that will statistically alienate a significant portion of the people who visit before they even get through the turnstiles.
Just think for a second about how the percentages quickly dwindle for park patrons who will never set foot on TT:
A percentage of patrons will not ride any rides.
A percentage of patrons will not meet the requirements to ride.
A percentage of patrons will visit and enjoy rides, but are not thrill seekers, or coaster enthusiasts and will not ride.
A percentage of patrons will visit who enjoy coasters, but are unable to tolerate inversions.
A percentage of patrons will visit who enjoy coasters, but are unable to tolerate spinning rides.
That's a $26 million gamble that could have easily been minimized by incorporating the ability to allow the rider to dictate his/her ride experience as it relates to the spinning. Obviously, I am of the opinion that this omission would have made a bigger splash in terms of touting so many "world's only/firsts" in the coaster arena.
As I said above and in earlier posts, I applaud SDC on its willingness to continue pushing limits. I only hope public feedback will either prove me wrong, or force their hand into tweaking the experience at some point sooner than later.
My wife and I probably won't care for this coaster much. All the spinning coupled with inversions is specifically meant for a younger thrill ride enthusiast crowd. But that is fine with us if this ride will at least draw some of the crowd away from Powder Keg, FITH, Wildfire area in the coming years.
Outlaw Run will be an old west ghost town in the future. It's already the easiest ride to get on in the city. I assume that's because it has gotten so rough. My wife and I will only ride in one of the first two rows nowadays and usually only once per visit. This could be good for getting on the Swing as well.
Gonna suck for the awhile though.
The teenagers should love Time Traveler. Gonna be a lot of screamers on that one for sure.
My wife and I probably won't care for this coaster much. All the spinning coupled with inversions is specifically meant for a younger thrill ride enthusiast crowd. But that is fine with us if this ride will at least draw some of the crowd away from Powder Keg, FITH, Wildfire area in the coming years.
Outlaw Run will be an old west ghost town in the future. It's already the easiest ride to get on in the city. I assume that's because it has gotten so rough. My wife and I will only ride in one of the first two rows nowadays and usually only once per visit. This could be good for getting on the Swing as well.
Gonna suck for the Thunderation/Flooded Mine/Train area for awhile though.
The teenagers should love Time Traveler. Gonna be a lot of screamers on that one for sure.
I am afraid this will mean increased season pass cost, and major increased crowds making it an unpleasant experience all the time.
My wife and I probably won't care for this coaster much. All the spinning coupled with inversions is specifically meant for a younger thrill ride enthusiast crowd. But that is fine with us if this ride will at least draw some of the crowd away from Powder Keg, FITH, Wildfire area in the coming years.
Outlaw Run will be an old west ghost town in the future. It's already the easiest ride to get on in the city. I assume that's because it has gotten so rough. My wife and I will only ride in one of the first two rows nowadays and usually only once per visit. This could be good for getting on the Swing as well.
Gonna suck for the awhile though.
The teenagers should love Time Traveler. Gonna be a lot of screamers on that one for sure.
The City still needs a GCI full of airtime and no inversions or it needs a hyper with no inversions. Cedar's RMC's they announced today are heavy on the airtime hills with their barrel rows included. Just give me some relentless air moments for 60 seconds.
My wife and I probably won't care for this coaster much. All the spinning coupled with inversions is specifically meant for a younger thrill ride enthusiast crowd. But that is fine with us if this ride will at least draw some of the crowd away from Powder Keg, FITH, Wildfire area in the coming years.
Outlaw Run will be an old west ghost town in the future. It's already the easiest ride to get on in the city. I assume that's because it has gotten so rough. My wife and I will only ride in one of the first two rows nowadays and usually only once per visit. This could be good for getting on the Swing as well.
Gonna suck for the Thunderation/Flooded Mine/Train area for awhile though.
The teenagers should love Time Traveler. Gonna be a lot of screamers on that one for sure.
I am afraid this will mean increased season pass cost, and major increased crowds making it an unpleasant experience all the time.
Yea the increased crowds will be there for this ride during Spring Ride Days, about any Saturday, and through the summer, but we can still find many mornings through any year to visit the city and enjoy some riding and walking around without the place being unpleasantly crazy. Things picked up somewhat during the year of the Outlaw Run debut, but it was still tolerable on many days. I expect the same with this new addition.
I guess that's the advantage of being locals, it's easy for us to choose any given Sunday morning for a 5 hour visit to the city, and even some Saturdays now and then aren't too busy. For instance, this coming weekend there is no festival, the kiddos and teachers are back in school, we're in a gap between summer and fall, so Sunday morning would likely be a great time for a visit.
I know this post will probably get buried with all the discussion on the new ride but for those interested, here are some photo highlights from today. Got photos and video of the ceremony and as a bonus we also got to tour the station AND the coaster itself.
FULL ALBUM FROM TODAY IS HERE (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10155605868382232.1073741874.503502231&type=1&l=344e67f1bd)
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Lots of negative Nancy posts about something that hasn't even been completed yet. Judge the ride in spring and then see how it goes. If you can't ride in the back of a car without taking Dramamin, yes maybe you will not be able to handle it and that's fine. Just like being to short or to big to fit in the seat on other rides. Let it play out before assuming it will be unpopular.
Lots of negative Nancy posts about something that hasn't even been completed yet. Judge the ride in spring and then see how it goes. If you can't ride in the back of a car without taking Dramamin, yes maybe you will not be able to handle it and that's fine. Just like being to short or to big to fit in the seat on other rides. Let it play out before assuming it will be unpopular.
Some folks won't ride wooden coaster cause they see them as too rough or though of them being less safe or some other reason. Some folks will not go upside down, some refuse because they think it's too fast and some because it's too high. If we built coasters that everyone liked(impossible) they'd suck.
To all of those whining about the spinning, get over it. SDC has given us an amazing attraction. Such a great day.
To all of those whining about the spinning, get over it. SDC has given us an amazing attraction. Such a great day.
Tyler, they have just as much of a right to formulate their own opinions as you do, to formulate their own. Spinning is not for everyone. My group even had qualms about that feature.
To all of those whining about the spinning, get over it. SDC has given us an amazing attraction. Such a great day.
Tyler, they have just as much of a right to formulate their own opinions as you do, to formulate their own. Spinning is not for everyone. My group even had qualms about that feature.
Great photos Swoosh and sdcfan88!
A lot of people are still asking questions about things like keeping one car locked down to not spin. This would not only be a terrible logistical challenge for the line, but also a horrible PR move. The spinning is the whole point. You don't tout the world's wildest spinning coaster, then slap a non-spinning car on the back because that is basically just admitting that the whole spinning thing was some kind of a mistake. Some GP would even take it as evidence that the spinning cars are too intense or even dangerous. Before long you'd have GP calling for all the cars to be locked in place and the whole point of the coaster would be lost.
I get that some people don't like rides that spin, but at this point I'd say let it go and either choose not to ride or at the very least give it a try before you whine about it being too wild for you.
I'm still digesting my total reaction to the announcement. As a coaster enthusiast, I am excited for the ride and think it will be tons of fun on it's own. As an SDC fanatic, I'm uneasy about the almost complete lack of theming shown anywhere. Unless it comes as a surprise down the road, there will be no theming or tunnels along the track like the stuff that was hinted at in the concept pitch. I'm sure the station will have lots of stuff in it, but little mention was made of anything during the announcement, and no concept art exists of the inside. They did have a little screen printed banner that looked nice, but that was the only hint so far. The back story is interesting, but completely shoots over the tongue-in-cheek nature of the rest of the park. Is this supposed to be themed to actual time travel, or just an attempt by an SDC citizen and his daughter? I suppose we'll see more as time progresses. I have faith that it will look good when completed, but you know I like to push them for good theming.
According to Brad Thomas, president of Silver Dollar City Attractions, the indoor queue and load station will showcase the story of Charles Henry, a turn-of-the-century clockmaker and inventor who resides in Silver Dollar City and is captivated by the science fiction tales of Jules Verne. Gears, cogs, and other steampunk flourishes will adorn the building.
"The first level tells the story of Mr. Henry's time-keeping creations," says Thomas. "However, the second and third levels start revealing Charles' big dream of creating a contraption capable of time travel."
Forgot to post the link to photos of the station and boardwalk
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/08/time-traveler-station-construction-sdc.html
Also - confirmed that Poke Salad Mary's is staying
From the USA Today articleQuoteAccording to Brad Thomas, president of Silver Dollar City Attractions, the indoor queue and load station will showcase the story of Charles Henry, a turn-of-the-century clockmaker and inventor who resides in Silver Dollar City and is captivated by the science fiction tales of Jules Verne. Gears, cogs, and other steampunk flourishes will adorn the building.
"The first level tells the story of Mr. Henry's time-keeping creations," says Thomas. "However, the second and third levels start revealing Charles' big dream of creating a contraption capable of time travel."
http://amp.usatoday.com/story/573610001/
Has everyone seen the 360 video? You might want to go over this one with a fine-toothed comb.
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_cmzz2gBeA
Wow....My new topic got locked out.....just thought it might be easier to start a new thread than trying to read through so many pages on park developments.
Thanks all for posting updates. I personally have mixed feelings about this.
1. I thought I would be okay with the spinning, until i watched the pov video. Amyone saying it isnt a lot of spinning is fooling themselves. (10,000 is still a lot, even if it isnt 20,000.) I think i will be ok, but I totally agree with those concerned and dont blame anyone for being bummed they wont be able to ride. Going backward can be fun at times, though.
2. I am totaly unimpressed with this theme. I have no idea why steampunk is so big but it is repulsive to me. This theme is not 1880s Ozarks, late 1880s Chicago or new york maybe. As swoosh said everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if people like this theme im happy for them, but I do not feel like it is anything like SDC. Being set in history alone doesnt make it SDC. It is not appealing or enduring. Just throw a bunch of clocks together. Wildfire is steampunk enough for me...ugh.
3. Combine 2 with what others fear is a lack of themeing leads me to believe the PTB just dont care or dont get it. Seems haphazardly thrown together and unimpressive. I will wait for my final analysis on #3 until I see it, but I will never like time traveler as a concept or this steampunk route. Just like grand exposition, not for me.
Because of the above I really dont think I will care much for this ride or become attached to it. I will spend most of my riding time on FITH, Flooded Mine, Thunderation, Powderkeg, Lost River, the Train, and OR to a lesser extent while wondering why they wont fix up or redo AP or fix up FItH or make Thunderation smoother.
I will spend more time in the shops or saloon show, grandfathers mansion or a theatre. If this ride takes up some crowd then great. If it makes the SP price go up ill probably scale back to one visit a year, if the route they wanna go is away from die hard loyalists like me and toward coaster chasers with no soul invovled that is entirely up to them and my visists will reflect that. (Not saying its what they are doing for sure, just speaking generally and in 'what ifs').
I will ride it next year and give it a chance, but aint gettin my hopes up. Im more excited that they fixed up FM.
While I am VERY glad to hear the things I read about Steampunk are false, Im still underwhelmed with the theme, but at least am willing to give it a chance. That building and overall entrance does look massive and could lead to some good themeing. Hope there is some unepected theming on the ride.Thanks all for posting updates. I personally have mixed feelings about this.
1. I thought I would be okay with the spinning, until i watched the pov video. Amyone saying it isnt a lot of spinning is fooling themselves. (10,000 is still a lot, even if it isnt 20,000.) I think i will be ok, but I totally agree with those concerned and dont blame anyone for being bummed they wont be able to ride. Going backward can be fun at times, though.
2. I am totaly unimpressed with this theme. I have no idea why steampunk is so big but it is repulsive to me. This theme is not 1880s Ozarks, late 1880s Chicago or new york maybe. As swoosh said everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if people like this theme im happy for them, but I do not feel like it is anything like SDC. Being set in history alone doesnt make it SDC. It is not appealing or enduring. Just throw a bunch of clocks together. Wildfire is steampunk enough for me...ugh.
3. Combine 2 with what others fear is a lack of themeing leads me to believe the PTB just dont care or dont get it. Seems haphazardly thrown together and unimpressive. I will wait for my final analysis on #3 until I see it, but I will never like time traveler as a concept or this steampunk route. Just like grand exposition, not for me.
Because of the above I really dont think I will care much for this ride or become attached to it. I will spend most of my riding time on FITH, Flooded Mine, Thunderation, Powderkeg, Lost River, the Train, and OR to a lesser extent while wondering why they wont fix up or redo AP or fix up FItH or make Thunderation smoother.
I will spend more time in the shops or saloon show, grandfathers mansion or a theatre. If this ride takes up some crowd then great. If it makes the SP price go up ill probably scale back to one visit a year, if the route they wanna go is away from die hard loyalists like me and toward coaster chasers with no soul invovled that is entirely up to them and my visists will reflect that. (Not saying its what they are doing for sure, just speaking generally and in 'what ifs').
I will ride it next year and give it a chance, but aint gettin my hopes up. Im more excited that they fixed up FM.
1. Brad really hit the point of it being a controlled spinning Hard yesterday. He even went as far as saying that the magnets would clamp hard if the sensors detect the carts spinning too much. He personally thought the test car on Collossus was too much and that's why Mack developed this particular set up.
2. Believe it or not, the theme is NOT steampunk. The character is actually a clock connoisseur and has stumbled on a way to bend time. I guess years of studying and measuring time came to this break through. So basically he's a clock maker and historian.
3. The station is going to be very impressive. BUT I'll let the park reveal those details as they're the ones paying for it - not my place.
I would 10 times over rather have a Fury or Millenium Force clone over this.
I just really hope that the 12-18 crowd ride it hundreds of times and go crazy over this never before seen attraction for years to come, that's the key.
Josh, Shave or Swoosh, from your site tour experience and having seen the loading station and current queue, can you tell us if there will be any observation areas similar to WF? With their desire to promote ridership, I would think they would want to give patrons a great view of the experience. Even with a strong opposition to the spinning concept, I still won't make my final judgement, or decision on whether or not to ride until I'm able to see it in action with my own eyes first.
I will say it's painfully obvious that a sizable chunk of SDC's $26 million investment was eroded due to the work it simply took to place a coaster in this location. As others have echoed, I'm also a bit underwhelmed and confused at the lack of adding any thematic elements beyond the station. Even a simple building over a portion of portions of the ride would add greatly to it.
Beyond the drop out of the station, the spinning element looks to be the only thing remotely unique about it. Compare the ride statistics to that of Mack's Helix coaster and it's clear the majority of the budget for TT was simply spent on excavation, concrete and developing the magnetic control mechanism for the trains.
Call it presumptuous and/or subjective, but when all is said and done, I would bet the farm that Helix is a far superior ride experience. Just wish they wouldn't have relied on what appears to be a gimmick in an effort to drive sales. A coaster as simple as PK continues to proven that a thoughtful design simply utilizing the nature around SDC can provide a lasting experience that demands repeat visitors and ridership.
Helix
$30 million
Height – 135 ft.
Length – 4,531 ft.
Speed – 62mph
Inversions – 7
LSM's – Two
Time Traveler
$26 million
Height - 100 ft.
Length – 3020
Speed – 50.3
Inversions –3
LSM's – 2
"Lots and lots of publicity already for this coaster... every major news station has picked up the story, and I'm sure it will be talked about a lot next year."
I literally saw a "Time Traveler" watermark underneath a definition of a word at Merriam Webster that had nothing to do with "Time Traveler" the day of the announcement. I don't know how that is even possible but I was still baffled. :o
My Son and I will ride it, probably late in the day as to avoid ruining our entire trip. We may love it....however that is the biggest complaint I think most have. If you did a poll, spinning would have been last every time. Sure some may love it, and most might be pleasantly surprised, but that is the whole thing from a marketing point of view. A large portion of your patrons are hesitant because of the nausea factor. It is also still okay to have an opinion on the matter as well. I like the theme and very glad that SDC is making these major investments to keep the park relevant, but wish they would have dropped all the firsts and went for something a little different. To each his own.
As for the coaster reactions and publicity I am loving some of the ones I have been seeing on social media from the GP. Some of the best ones can be found on KY3's Facebook page. They are downright hilarious.
Helix
$30 million
Height – 135 ft.
Length – 4,531 ft.
Speed – 62mph
Inversions – 7
LSM's – Two
Time Traveler
$26 million
Height - 100 ft.
Length – 3020
Speed – 50.3
Inversions –3
LSM's – 2
Helix has escalators to get to the queue building for gosh sake. In the grand scheme of things, they're about equal.
Off topic a bit, I will chime in and say there apparently will be big changes to the SDC classics over the next 5 years from what me and Shave heard while at the media event. One being major changes to Flooded Mine come next year as more of the structure is coming down. People might or might not be happy with the coming changes.
More to be elaborated on in the future development thread later on.
As for the coaster reactions and publicity I am loving some of the ones I have been seeing on social media from the GP. Some of the best ones can be found on KY3's Facebook page. They are downright hilarious.
Off topic a bit, I will chime in and say there apparently will be big changes to the SDC classics over the next 5 years from what me and Shave heard while at the media event. One being major changes to Flooded Mine come next year as more of the structure is coming down. People might or might not be happy with the coming changes.
More to be elaborated on in the future development thread later on.
QuoteOff topic a bit, I will chime in and say there apparently will be big changes to the SDC classics over the next 5 years from what me and Shave heard while at the media event. One being major changes to Flooded Mine come next year as more of the structure is coming down. People might or might not be happy with the coming changes.
More to be elaborated on in the future development thread later on.
Sounds like we are starting the " I know something you dont know " game again. This ALWAYS ends up going well.......
Fact of the mater is that FM's fate seems to change by the week. The only change that'll probably happen for sure is that the rock slide tower is coming down due to major wood rot and structural instability.
QuoteFact of the mater is that FM's fate seems to change by the week. The only change that'll probably happen for sure is that the rock slide tower is coming down due to major wood rot and structural instability.
Well, it would upset me if the rocks still fell but I don't think it will take much to offset that removal. Esthetics and theming aside.
I'll reserve my judgement until I ride. In general though, I'm not "I have to get there opening day" excited like I was for Outlaw Run. I like spinning coasters, I'm just a little cautious about this one because of all the action it does while spinning.
The reaction in my group of family and friends is mixed from "super excited" (crying at the announcement) to "not interested". With the younger generation being the ones who are super excited...
But no matter, I'm always looking forward to a trip to SDC. They could have built a Larson Super Loop and called it a roller coaster and I'd be there with my season pass in hand.
Jay
I'll reserve my judgement until I ride. In general though, I'm not "I have to get there opening day" excited like I was for Outlaw Run. I like spinning coasters, I'm just a little cautious about this one because of all the action it does while spinning.
The reaction in my group of family and friends is mixed from "super excited" (crying at the announcement) to "not interested". With the younger generation being the ones who are super excited...
But no matter, I'm always looking forward to a trip to SDC. They could have built a Larson Super Loop and called it a roller coaster and I'd be there with my season pass in hand.
Jay
Super Loops are certainly en vogue these days especially with a certain chain.
I would hope for a major Pro Slide addition to White Water next year. It needs major love or replacement altogether.
I'll reserve my judgement until I ride. In general though, I'm not "I have to get there opening day" excited like I was for Outlaw Run. I like spinning coasters, I'm just a little cautious about this one because of all the action it does while spinning.
The reaction in my group of family and friends is mixed from "super excited" (crying at the announcement) to "not interested". With the younger generation being the ones who are super excited...
But no matter, I'm always looking forward to a trip to SDC. They could have built a Larson Super Loop and called it a roller coaster and I'd be there with my season pass in hand.
Jay
Super Loops are certainly en vogue these days especially with a certain chain.
I would hope for a major Pro Slide addition to White Water next year. It needs major love or replacement altogether.
Don't look now, but Cedar Fair got into the act this coming year as they are adding one to Valleyfair.
I looks for SDC to ride out TT for 2019 -- a "Still New in 2019" kind of thing. If anything, a small ride addition back in Grand Expo. Still sounds like the insect and frogs will be moving this off season to HDH.
Still sounds like the insect and frogs will be moving this off season to HDH.
Personally I think they should add bull themed bumper cars and call it Stockyard Rampage and a wagon wheel themed ferris wheel round out the Outlaw Run area.
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Not sexy but adds some minor attractions and fills out the area.
Still sounds like the insect and frogs will be moving this off season to HDH.
The relocation of those kiddie rides to Half Dollar Holler is a smart move. It needs a bit more to "hold" people.
It will make a centrally located area for a Mom to keep the little ones while older ones and Dad hit the big stuff.
Wonder what type of ride SDC could put down in that area if it is available.
I still think SDC needs a token ferris wheel somewhere.
Just a few short years ago that frog ride was the main attraction of the park for my little ones. Don't underestimate those kiddie rides and there drawing power.
HDH seems like a good place for those rides...it's central...close to the exits/train...and I'm sure HDH doesn't mind having more kids hang out around the Build a Bear place to tempt some additional sales.
That dead end area is always packed but does feel very out of the way to get to those rides. The opened space in GE could be good place for a restaurant? or new flat?
I just got off TNT. Time Traveler's track seems WAY too close to TNT's, like you can reach out and touch it. I don't like it... Is TNT safe, or did I miss something?
Even if they are keeping TNT (I'm praying very hard that they do), I hate how close the two rides are. I like how everything else in the park is separated by trees and all you see are trees. I don't like the Six Flags feeling I was getting where all the rides are crammed together.
I know the announcement has come and gone but it seems like the 2018 Time traveler announcement has been met with a big dose of indifference. TPR and other sites including this one are pretty ho hum on the 2018 addition. Does the lack of excitement and chatter signify maybe SDC has laid a big egg ? Not being critical but my level of enthusiasm is pretty low on this one.
LOL, hardly indifference. On TPR's facebook page alone the video they posted had something like 5 MILLION views last I checked a few days ago. That's viral status. USA Today, LA Times, CNN, etc, etc, etc are all covering it. Literally tens of millions of people around the globe are talking about this ride. (OK, not "talking", but at least viewing and sharing the videos).
Coaster enthusiasts are split about it as expected, but most of us know that this is something that has to be experienced first hand before it is judged. At the very least, it is the most ambitious and unconventional new ride for 2018. Six Flags is making their announcements tomorrow. After that is finally done I expect TT will still be at the top of the most watched projects for 2018. Hard to compete with the RMC's right now though because they are so hot and everyone already knows they will be good.
There's going to be so much publicity this March when TT finally opens. I expect an even bigger round of headlines and media coverage since this time they will be ahead of all the SF and CF projects. The coaster enthusiasts will come around when the good reviews roll in. They are going to get exactly what they wanted - a huge boost of publicity for the park.
As for this site, I've been laid up from a surgery so I'm trying to get caught up again. Not much left to discuss or speculate now that it is all out there. I'm turning my attention back to how they are going to manage the extra crowds.
LOL, hardly indifference. On TPR's facebook page alone the video they posted had something like 5 MILLION views last I checked a few days ago. That's viral status. USA Today, LA Times, CNN, etc, etc, etc are all covering it. Literally tens of millions of people around the globe are talking about this ride. (OK, not "talking", but at least viewing and sharing the videos).
Coaster enthusiasts are split about it as expected, but most of us know that this is something that has to be experienced first hand before it is judged. At the very least, it is the most ambitious and unconventional new ride for 2018. Six Flags is making their announcements tomorrow. After that is finally done I expect TT will still be at the top of the most watched projects for 2018. Hard to compete with the RMC's right now though because they are so hot and everyone already knows they will be good.
There's going to be so much publicity this March when TT finally opens. I expect an even bigger round of headlines and media coverage since this time they will be ahead of all the SF and CF projects. The coaster enthusiasts will come around when the good reviews roll in. They are going to get exactly what they wanted - a huge boost of publicity for the park.
As for this site, I've been laid up from a surgery so I'm trying to get caught up again. Not much left to discuss or speculate now that it is all out there. I'm turning my attention back to how they are going to manage the extra crowds.
And Six Flags is just getting ready to announce...Looks like mostly flat rides
QuoteAnd Six Flags is just getting ready to announce...Looks like mostly flat rides
Actually, SFSTL is adding a pretty awesome waterslide. I like these hybrid slides that are starting to appear.
Coaster fans are driving a lot of revenue to SDC, but SDC is not a coaster park. It's not an amusement park. It remains a theme park, which happens to have some awesome rides.
Those are some great pics of the west side of the project... The gate was open on the East side so I took one more set of pictures... MAN!! this thing goes up and down and around and weaves in and out!!
They are awesome photos, but they really don't like people stopping by the gate. They have been nice enough so far not to arrest anyone for trespassing, but it was wearing pretty thin around announcement time.
The finished product looks nice, for a coaster. I feel like there were some missed opportunities with them not enclosing the launches or having any sort of thematic fly-throughs or whatever, but it is going to accomplish what they wanted.
If those photos are taken from the shoulder of the public road, they can pound sand.LOL
Those are some great pics of the west side of the project... The gate was open on the East side so I took one more set of pictures... MAN!! this thing goes up and down and around and weaves in and out!!
AWESOME PHOTOS!!! Thank you for sharing. For those without Facebook, we just added Sanddunerider's photos
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/09/time-traveler-construction-sdc_5.html
The gates were open when we went in Saturday morning at 9:30 ish and open when we left about 6:30. Must have been open all weekend.Those are some great pics of the west side of the project... The gate was open on the East side so I took one more set of pictures... MAN!! this thing goes up and down and around and weaves in and out!!
AWESOME PHOTOS!!! Thank you for sharing. For those without Facebook, we just added Sanddunerider's photos
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/09/time-traveler-construction-sdc_5.html
Thanks, They look great on your page.. I thought 1 more set of pics, since they are 99% complete would be interesting to us all.. I was surprised to find the gate open on Sunday, and I didnt see any workers..
When do we start talking about 2020 speculation? I assume 2019 will be an "off year" as far as new rides.
Sounds like Magic Shop and the former TNT arch is gone now. Apparently a new construction fence has popped up around the area that stretches out to Valley Road. Poke Salad Mary's is also behind the fence but apparently is surviving this revamp of the area. Not sure if any of the other structures are leaving. I have to think that they'll want to open up the area to make crowd flow better. Taking out that planter between TNT Potties and Christmas Hollow would go a long way to help flow.
Sounds like Magic Shop and the former TNT arch is gone now. Apparently a new construction fence has popped up around the area that stretches out to Valley Road. Poke Salad Mary's is also behind the fence but apparently is surviving this revamp of the area. Not sure if any of the other structures are leaving. I have to think that they'll want to open up the area to make crowd flow better. Taking out that planter between TNT Potties and Christmas Hollow would go a long way to help flow.
That just happened in the last few days then... moving fast in that area.. took advantage of park being closed for 3 days.. thats impressive..
that planter is in the way, But with magic shop gone. and TnT arch gone.. that will make a big difference..
Did they move the lockers? about had to didnt they?
Really curious to know what they are gonna do with the TNT arch stuff, particularly the new mine carts and railing they just rebuilt with the sign for the 2016 season. Hope we will see them reappear somewhere around TNT or in the park somewhere.
Really curious to know what they are gonna do with the TNT arch stuff, particularly the new mine carts and railing they just rebuilt with the sign for the 2016 season. Hope we will see them reappear somewhere around TNT or in the park somewhere.
They gone and won't be coming back.
Really curious to know what they are gonna do with the TNT arch stuff, particularly the new mine carts and railing they just rebuilt with the sign for the 2016 season. Hope we will see them reappear somewhere around TNT or in the park somewhere.
They gone and won't be coming back.
So will there be any signage for Thunderation? All the coasters have some sort of entrance sign.
The magic shop has moved over by FitH temporary and will be moving to the general area of FL after this season
The magic shop has moved over by FitH temporary and will be moving to the general area of FL after this season
Hmmm, does this mean that art/sign shop across from the toy store is going to move out?
We were sent a photo of the new construction wall that has gone up around the former area where the Magic Shop and the TNT arch was located.
...and seriously that planter between TNT restrooms and Christmas Corner needs to go. Look at how it is just in the way
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/09/time-traveler-construction-sdc_9.html
...and seriously that planter between TNT restrooms and Christmas Corner needs to go. Look at how it is just in the way
Quote...and seriously that planter between TNT restrooms and Christmas Corner needs to go. Look at how it is just in the way
It sure is a lot of seating to lose though.
Carr Excavating shared more photos today. I got to admit, the retaining walls really class up the look of this ride
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/09/time-traveler-construction-sdc_13.html
Carr Excavating shared more photos today. I got to admit, the retaining walls really class up the look of this ride
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/09/time-traveler-construction-sdc_13.html
Carr Excavating shared more photos today. I got to admit, the retaining walls really class up the look of this ride
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/09/time-traveler-construction-sdc_13.html
Two Thoughts
Hope they put caps on them.
Hope they use a concrete stain to knock the gray out and blend it better with the natural landscape.
Carr Excavating shared more photos today. I got to admit, the retaining walls really class up the look of this ride
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/09/time-traveler-construction-sdc_13.html
Two Thoughts
Hope they put caps on them.
Hope they use a concrete stain to knock the gray out and blend it better with the natural landscape.
Awesome pics
Thought as I was viewing them.....has the park every had any issues with wildlife around the rides? I'd assume the fencing would keep out the larger creatures (deer, humans). But Id hate to think about what might happen to a random squirrel.
Yeah, what an ugly bland color scheme for such a bold new ride. Not sure what the thought process was here, especially after they tested a completely different paint scheme. Something about dirt showing maybe? That's always why people move away from white paint jobs. ::)
As long as they add lots of cool aesthetic details around an on the station, it won't matter too much. It does just look very suburban though...
So I'll be the first to say it. I hate the color of the station. I hope that's not the finished product.
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/09/time-traveler-construction-sdc_16.html
So I'll be the first to say it. I hate the color of the station. I hope that's not the finished product.
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/09/time-traveler-construction-sdc_16.html
I guess I expected more of a brown/earthtone color for some reason..... BUT lots of time left ofr additional changes.......
LOL, maybe the greenish color is the primer coat ::)
So I'll be the first to say it. I hate the color of the station. I hope that's not the finished product.
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/09/time-traveler-construction-sdc_16.html
I actually like the look of the station. I just hope they paint the railing of the exit platform because the plain wood doesn't look good against the gray/white station. Either way, the look of the station really doesn't matter. The people who care what the station looks like will go to the park anyway, and others only care about the ride. I'm sure we'll see a lot of theming inside the station where people will actually spend time waiting.
As is - I don't find it very inviting as you would walk down the steps to the queue building entrance. I also am not a fan of the exit bridge being so readily visible from the entrance queue line stairs.
It does look like there will be windows out the back of the building on the queue levels. Still not close to something like WF though.
It does look like there will be windows out the back of the building on the queue levels. Still not close to something like WF though.
Yes on the 2nd level of the queue building there are postcard windows that look out towards the first drop
It does look like there will be windows out the back of the building on the queue levels. Still not close to something like WF though.
Yes on the 2nd level of the queue building there are postcard windows that look out towards the first drop
Nice, surprised they didnt put up large plate glass windows.. so you could really see whats going on..
It does look like there will be windows out the back of the building on the queue levels. Still not close to something like WF though.
Yes on the 2nd level of the queue building there are postcard windows that look out towards the first drop
Nice, surprised they didnt put up large plate glass windows.. so you could really see whats going on..
Spellcheck on my phone switched words on me and I didn't catch it. I meant PICTURE windows
I think the station is the only thing left to watch at this point, so I wouldn't go to much more trouble than getting a couple shots from TNT's queue or the porch.
Still a lot of time left for them to dress the station and surrounding area up. I'm curious to see how much effort they'll put into the exterior. They don't often disappoint, and Fireman's Landing had a lot of great little details so they still know how to do it.
I think the station is the only thing left to watch at this point, so I wouldn't go to much more trouble than getting a couple shots from TNT's queue or the porch.
Still a lot of time left for them to dress the station and surrounding area up. I'm curious to see how much effort they'll put into the exterior. They don't often disappoint, and Fireman's Landing had a lot of great little details so they still know how to do it.
Looks like it won't be a huge shop, not that it could be or needs to be. Wonder why it needs 4 sewer taps. Not a lot of room if people are going to have to move through it after exiting and stop to look at photos. Always looks smaller before it gets formed though.
I wondered about beverage/concession area,
But there would/should be water lines in that area also.. and there isnt.. (for now anyway).
They could be added later...
The new shop has gone verticalCould this be the on-ride photoshop?
QuoteThe new shop has gone verticalCould this be the on-ride photoshop?
Wouldn't it be hard to get an on-ride photo on a spinning coaster?Good point. I agree that shop looks small and also agree that the utility pipes are interesting although maybe that's SDCs idea of conduit. I thought possible photoshop as this would need a fair amount of wiring. I guess this will be the TT mystery for a while. That's ok, we need something to talk and speculate about.
I know that MOA tried with Timberline Twister/Fairly Odd Coaster and didn't have much success
What if the on-ride camera is actually on the train/car itself? The concept art shows a kind of console in front of the riders with those rolling number things.... They could easily put in a camera there. I mean, they were able to do on-ride video on Wildfire by putting the camera on the train itself...
What if the on-ride camera is actually on the train/car itself? The concept art shows a kind of console in front of the riders with those rolling number things.... They could easily put in a camera there. I mean, they were able to do on-ride video on Wildfire by putting the camera on the train itself...
The trick is being able to retrieve the data from the cameras to get the video/pics to the shop to sell securely and timely. The key would be if they could build out a wireless network that can connect and transfer the data fast enough to be available by the time you get to the photo hut. It would probably have to connect with each seat too.
See Dollywood's system for Wild Eagle- actual onride video footage from cameras mounted in the cars on the back of the seat in front of them, transmitted wirelessly and able to be purchased as soon as you get off of the ride. you can see it from our recent trip at https://youtu.be/5a-AkTBpsC0
in this case, the car would need an "island" or something in the middle of it to hold the cameras, but they've got them small enough now that it wouldn't take much room and is very possible.
That doesn't mean they are going to do it with TT. I've no clue if they want to or not. But saying that it most certainly is possible and is happening on other coasters now if they wanted to go with on ride footage from on the cars themselves.
The pictures are showing up HUGE on my computer after I posted them. If its showing up like that for everyone else, can someone tell me how to make them smaller?
^^^
Obviously a long way to go before March 2018, but man I sure hope a sufficient update to the area in front of and around TNT & TT is still part of the overall development plan for the addition. That area is going to be an absolute nightmare to traverse if they do not address it.
Additionally, I know it's been mentioned that it appears an observation deck will NOT be a part of TT. Can anyone tell me why the PTB would not see value in allowing non-riding patrons or those on the fence about riding their largest ride investment to date the opportunity to watch the ride on action first – especially given the already growing concerns about the presumed intensity of a spinning launched and inverted coaster? Just doesn't make an ounce of sense to me. Also seems like a miss given its location where a view from the front of the load station seems to almost overlook the majority of the circuit.
Thanks for keeping us updated with photos guys! Still seems so odd how they are shoeing this into the park. It seems like they aren't going to go nuts with rebuilding the "plaza" like we kind of thought, or at least that is the impression I'm getting right now through the photos.
Can't wait till coaster Christmas next month to see it in person again.
1 car per trailer? Hmm. wonder what the reasoning there is.?
Does it look like the cars will hold tall, big guys??? :D
Found some interesting markings on Valley Road near Flooded Mine. Thoughts?
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2017/11/mystery-markers-sdc.html
Was hoping for a close up of car, when they started doing the testing and showing off the product..
Can't help but notice it is not spinning. I want to learn how that is controlled and if either the riders or operators will be able to start a spin out of the station.
As far as spin, I would guess/assume that that can be turned off if not wanting to be used.. probably just a hydraulic valve or possible a locking mechanism. I would expect them to do runs first, then start on the spining cars and the timing of that part of ride.. (maybe not).
All of the video showing off the rie show the cars spinning out of the launch... UNLESS shave is right, possibly the employees spin the car by hand as the train launches....
As far as spin, I would guess/assume that that can be turned off if not wanting to be used.. probably just a hydraulic valve or possible a locking mechanism. I would expect them to do runs first, then start on the spining cars and the timing of that part of ride.. (maybe not).
All of the video showing off the rie show the cars spinning out of the launch... UNLESS shave is right, possibly the employees spin the car by hand as the train launches....
That's one of the major problems with the animation video- it's very inaccurate in how it shows the spinning.
From what they've said, you can't "turn off" the spin. They have it regulated so it won't spin fast, but it will rotate. But that's going to happen based on how the weight of the riders is distributed in the cars, and it won't start until it hits a turn because that's when the weight will affect how the car goes through the turn. Coming straight out of the station it won't have any affect, so the cars won't be spinning on the first drop.
"You canna' change the laws of physics, Jim." :-)
From what I saw and understood it will work in almost the same way as disc brakes do on a car. But instead of metallic/ceramic pads coming in contact with a metal disk rotor there will be magnetic blocks positioned on either side of a metal ring at the base of the carriage that will be activated to control the system via a speed sensor if it starts to reach a certain rotational speed.
Sorry guys, you're mistaken. I can understand the confusion because SDC hasn't fully explained and the animation on it was particularly bad on that aspect. But you're a bit confused on how this works when it comes to the rotating.
This is a gravity/ physics spin, with the spinning starting/ caused in the same way as on other spinning coasters. The "control" is on how fast it can spin, not on direction or when/ where it starts. It won't spin on the drop because there aren't any forces changing direction from side to side which is what causes the spin. That's why it will start on the turns. But it isn't going to be a rapid/ fast spin because they have "brakes" that limit how fast it will rotate.
I would imagine that, like other spinning coasters, it's a separate mechanism on it that straightens out the cars when they get back to the station.
In that first photo, it almost looks like they've got actual people in the back car...
IMHO. I still think the spin is going to start at the launch, not at the first "turn" . I am pretty sure the spin, speed of spin, and the braking---ALL will be controlled by the magnetic braking system.
OR at the very least the spin will be started mechanically...
"time" will show us all how it works, AND I am not trying to get into a pissing contest with anyone about this.
Just my thoughts, and what (I think) I understand about this system
IMHO. I still think the spin is going to start at the launch, not at the first "turn" . I am pretty sure the spin, speed of spin, and the braking---ALL will be controlled by the magnetic braking system.
OR at the very least the spin will be started mechanically...
"time" will show us all how it works, AND I am not trying to get into a pissing contest with anyone about this.
Just my thoughts, and what (I think) I understand about this system
In that first photo, it almost looks like they've got actual people in the back car...
I saw a video someobody posted of a test run. The train was full of riders. I assume employees.
I wonder if they are trying to focus group test some people as well to see what the reaction will be when they open and how they can better "frame" the ride so people will actually try it out.
What they need are some reaction videos on youtube. That's how kids these days form an opinion. ::)
I wonder if they are trying to focus group test some people as well to see what the reaction will be when they open and how they can better "frame" the ride so people will actually try it out.
What they need are some reaction videos on youtube. That's how kids these days form an opinion. ::)
Legally they can't. They are extremely restricted on who they can put on it because it hasn't passed madated safety tests and test circuits yet, been certified by the state, cleared by the manufacturer. AT this point it's actually Mack that is running the ride still, and it has to pass a lot of safety checks and test runs before they turn it over to the park. So right now it's only who Mack is allowing on it- meaning their construction people and contractors- and no one from SDC.
Seems pretty crazy that this is happening so fast with no warning, but I really think it had to do with the Christmas crowds. I wonder if they got a warning from the fire Marshall or something...
Hubs drove by the City yesterday and asked me what was going on - piles and piles of lumber and some visible cranes.
Well, there's a lumber yard over there. I'm guessing this is what he saw:
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.6823202,-93.3402116,3a,33.6y,277.46h,89.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXllOgJUdkcNV2kXRmmarsg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
To be fair though, SDC might buy from that yard since it's so close. :P
I would REALLY hate if they got rid of all the Pines and shade trees in that segment. I am hoping it was at least spared if the rest of that area was razed. I am thinking there might be an uproar if they got rid of the skillets tho. There was always a decent line and a lot of people eating from there.
Finally, it looks like most of the trees have been removed in the area as the entire pavement has been ripped up and the trees should be where the cat on the left is sitting.
I guess I asked a few days too early.
Carr Excavating came through with a new photo today.
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/01/city-changes-sdc_27.html
I've added commentary over at MIG to explain what you're looking at.
There's more to the story I'm sure - but the info posted is what can be gleamed from the photo.
Here is the video in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5hj1TPLfvc
Notice the lack of spin with the cars versus the animations we previously saw, granted its partially because there is no weight variance to cause the spinning but that is also part of the magnetic braking system that will control it, I do still see quite a few people being apprehensive about this. I believe it was discussed before on here but I think to help with this issue, the park should market and word it more along the lines of pivoting or turning versus using the term spinning. Again these are NOT gonna be your teacup type spinning cars. :)
And note too that those launches are looking quite a bit more intense than what the animations showed as well. :D
Carr deleted all his recent SDC stuff... hope we didn't get him into trouble
Swoosh......did you receive the PM I sent you a few days ago???
Ah, so there's a new skillet AND a new restaurant. That makes more sense. Did they take out the place on the far side as well?
Hmmm... it seems like it might flow better, but it's not as big of an opening as I was originally thinking. Still kind of a pinch point between the new skillet and the back of the ride exit stuff. Not that they need to blow the place wide open or anything, but it just seems like a lot of effort to just rearrange things.
I'm sure it makes more sense in person. Hard to get a sense of scale through photos.
There are no tables and chairs there any more
Valley Road hugs the ridge of Echo Hollow now.
Valley Road is the same until it gets past the TT shop. It then curves right and hugs the ridge of EH until reconnecting with the old path at the junction near Frisco / EH entrance.
It was rumored that a new dining patio would be located on the new "wall" at the FM Lake. Judging by the photos from Carr and posted by Brad Thomas, I'd say that is happening.
I personally think the time of the "picnic tables for those who bring in lunches" is past as this new dining area will be pretty obvious that it is designed for the new replacement skillet restaurant and the new restaurant that went up.
I personally think the time of the "picnic tables for those who bring in lunches" is past as this new dining area will be pretty obvious that it is designed for the new replacement skillet restaurant and the new restaurant that went up.
QuoteI personally think the time of the "picnic tables for those who bring in lunches" is past as this new dining area will be pretty obvious that it is designed for the new replacement skillet restaurant and the new restaurant that went up.
Yes, that out of the path in the shaded area will be missed. I question how many tables they will lose. Unfortunately those tables at the mine will probably be quite sunny, maybe they are planting a few trees for those that cant do the sun. I hope,
Think more of the dining area for Rib House on the right side closest to Lost River
I imagine they want another dining area they can use in the winter - hence the roof for this area
QuoteI personally think the time of the "picnic tables for those who bring in lunches" is past as this new dining area will be pretty obvious that it is designed for the new replacement skillet restaurant and the new restaurant that went up.
Yes, that out of the path in the shaded area will be missed. I question how many tables they will lose. Unfortunately those tables at the mine will probably be quite sunny, maybe they are planting a few trees for those that cant do the sun. I hope,
Think more of the dining area for Rib House on the right side closest to Lost River
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Yeap....That is are other go to picnic spot
Very cool, thanks for pointing it out. I completely missed it at first.
I wonder if the old water fountain with the "filter" gag is still there. I assume it is, it would be just out of frame of these photos.
Looks very sharp. Very nice to see the continuation of the classic architecture. Lots of fresh stone work going in too. I'm sure there will be some great theming details coming soon as well.
You can't really see it in these photos, but the concrete work in front of the exit gift shop kind of infers that the area there has been opened up a lot too. You couldn't hardly squeeze through there before, but now it looks like it is almost out in the open by itself. Don't see a new sign for TNT yet. Maybe that is coming?
I hope they can bring back a quilt shop again sometime since that's one of the few crafts that some people still really connect to and it's easy to make a shop for it.
SDC is running a contest to be the first to ride Time Traveler. Looks like the rides will be during the soft opening on the 13th.
http://firsttimetravelersweepstakes.pgtb.me/MR0sHS/nFFJp
There was also additional information about rider requirements. I'm not sure if they have posted this info before.
...a minimum of 51” in height in order to enter. Larger or taller guests (including guests who weigh more than 200 lbs., have a chest dimension of 52 inches or greater, or a 40 inch waistline) may not be able to ride.
Wow, definitely more shuffling than usual in addition to the physical changes near Time Traveler. Moving the baseball cart into an actual store is another important step to ease congestion in that area. Mortimer's new place will give them a better spot to put the little magic show on.
So the quilt/yarn shop is gone for good, which I think most of us knew was coming... is Greatest Gift gone as well? Also the shop that sold those signs... not that it was anything different than the signs that clutter every craft fair these days. I hope they can bring back a quilt shop again sometime since that's one of the few crafts that some people still really connect to and it's easy to make a shop for it.
^Also good to get confirmation that the ride is set to open with the park. Not that there was much doubt, but it was ambiguous. Ride conditions sound pretty standard. The weight thing is probably just to be on the safe side. It's all about how you are "built"
The weight thing is probably just to be on the safe side. It's all about how you are "built"
The weight thing is probably just to be on the safe side. It's all about how you are "built"
I don't get the 52 inch chest thing, there's no chest vests or OTSRs involved with the restraint system. 200lbs, good lord, that's insane for SDC.
New restaurant is called Traveler's Stop.
https://blog.silverdollarcity.com/article/time-traveler-tuesday-travelers-stop
https://www.silverdollarcity.com/theme-park/attractions/dining/travelers-stop
They can time travel, and they bring back fried chicken and macaroni?
Is the time machine still a con game, or is it supposedly legit?
don't know if anyone saw this
https://www.facebook.com/themeparkreview/videos/10156198317563566/
kinda puts to rest the whole spinning thing
Good Video/
Controlled Spin?.
LOL, Imagine that!
Good Video/
Controlled Spin?.
LOL, Imagine that!
Had to be a politician to coin it.
I'm kinda concerned about them reaching out for corporate sponsorship of rides. That's a very Six Flags style move. White River would have been a good fit if they were going to do it, but clearly someone didn't think it through all the way. I wonder what the next sponsor will be...
::)I'm kinda concerned about them reaching out for corporate sponsorship of rides. That's a very Six Flags style move. White River would have been a good fit if they were going to do it, but clearly someone didn't think it through all the way. I wonder what the next sponsor will be...
So we’re going to ignore the fact that Disney does this too? Ok. Cool.
The board jerk strikes again. Would have been just as easy to say Disney does it and in your opinion its okay.
I hesitate to put the idea out there, but TT could easily visit the future and bring Chic-Fil-A back to brand the new "restaurant". Obviously TT has already brought 80s music and modern circus acts back to the 1880s.
Was this really an endorsement where an electric company would see advertising on the ride? How would the company be compensated for their sponsorship? Would they somehow see a kickback based on ridership? I understand advertising, but are tourists going to go back home and rewire everything to a Branson Electric Company? We don't really get to choose our electric company.
Dare I say, this particular sponsorship just sounds stupid to me. Now Timex wants to hop on board, I might be OK with that.
they should be able to find another sponsor of need be...
BUT the sponsorship did not make or break the bamk as far as funding the coaster... only 430,000 dollars in 5 years?... in the total scheme of overhead costs and building costs,,,,, not a big hit to SDC...
Too bad SDC cant eliminate the 11% of power they use from them, since they "changed" their mind.... LOL
they should be able to find another sponsor of need be...
BUT the sponsorship did not make or break the bamk as far as funding the coaster... only 430,000 dollars in 5 years?... in the total scheme of overhead costs and building costs,,,,, not a big hit to SDC...
Too bad SDC cant eliminate the 11% of power they use from them, since they "changed" their mind.... LOL
But they can, build a solar farm nearby.
they should be able to find another sponsor of need be...
BUT the sponsorship did not make or break the bamk as far as funding the coaster... only 430,000 dollars in 5 years?... in the total scheme of overhead costs and building costs,,,,, not a big hit to SDC...
Too bad SDC cant eliminate the 11% of power they use from them, since they "changed" their mind.... LOL
But they can, build a solar farm nearby.
We have a winner.
If they put solar panels over the parking lot in the lower sections I think that would be smart. Protect the cars and pavement and no tree removal. Short of this, I don't know how they could get away without similar complaints concerning tree removal.
lol...
Will TT be open next week?
lol...
Will TT be open next week?
Update from today
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/03/city-changes-sdc_7.html?m=1
Update from today
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/03/city-changes-sdc_7.html?m=1
Since you mention the media day on Tuesday, are you going?
I was #4 to sign up lol
The optics on this look like a money grab.
You all realize that the likelihood that TT opens at 9 am will be slim. The temperature has to be 41 degrees or more and It wont be 41 degrees at 9am. Don't think anyone is thinking about that. It may be several hours later before it warms up enough.
You all realize that the likelihood that TT opens at 9 am will be slim. The temperature has to be 41 degrees or more and It wont be 41 degrees at 9am. Don't think anyone is thinking about that. It may be several hours later before it warms up enough.
Part of me hopes the chance of rain on Friday keeps some of the crowd away! ;D
Swoosh, are we going to have a “Where in the City?” this season?
Is that for a daily trailblazer pass? If you have a season trailblazer pass do those only get you on once also?
I would not be surprised if the line goes all the way to the main square this weekend. I will be in it, and I'll probably be live-updating our FB page about the experience. ;D
The first glimpse inside the themed queue area. Don't click unless you want to spoil the surprise.
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/03/time-traveler-sdc.html
Also, it was released today that the gift shop for Time Traveler will be known as Time Traders.
Added another photo. The queue looks great
It does look great, I did expect a bigger piece in the middle, rather than the hanging clocks....Do the cogs and belts move? I was expecting more than this as well. I wonder if the costs of Valley Road ate up the decore fund. While looking at pics of the track the other day I noted some footers that had nothing attached, I wonder if they went through with the decor in the valley as shown in the artwork. If temps are nice next week
BUT it looks good, and we all knew it would when they were finished. :)
I wonder if the costs of Valley Road ate up the decore fund.
I will try to go up on a weekday to check this out.
The station appears to be very underwhelming. There's the cool clocks and gears on the upper level, but the bottom floor that was supposed to be the "clock shop" is empty. Looks like they decided to cut the theming budget and pack more queue space in. Perhaps they know that in a few years that level won't be used much anyway...
I mean, it doesn't even look like there's any of the typical signage or anything. Did they just not get it done in time and more is coming later?
The ride sign appears to be in front of Thunderation? You can see TNT's diminished sign off to the lower right in most photos. Or did the Thunderation queue move over? It's hard to tell from the glances I have been able to take at the live streams.
Meh, theming wise this has been mostly disappointing compared to past efforts, but hopefully it's a good ride. Curious to hear the reviews coming in tomorrow. I'm sure the media riding today will talk it up either way.
When Outlaw Run first opened, the line went through the entire queue, including the overflow directly in front of the station that has since been taken out. It wound down all the way past The Giant Swing from what I've been told. People have been known to wait 4+ hours to try out a new coaster. I remember waiting at least a couple hours myself during that first year.
I am sure this will be much the same. There's been a ton of publicity on this ride with people from around the world writing about it. I would not be surprised if the line goes all the way to the main square this weekend. I will be in it, and I'll probably be live-updating our FB page about the experience. ;D
^^This isn't TPR, we can be at least a little critical here. I like to stay positive and don't plan to bitch too much, but it's pretty obvious that there isn't a whole lot of theming compared to past efforts. It's more like Wild Eagle than Wildfire, but at least the actual loading area looks nice. I was simply expecting more after all this build-up. I'll have to watch the video from the big reveal ceremony again to be sure, but I was sure there was a lot more mentioned about the theming that clearly isn't there.
Perhaps it does look a lot better in person though, that is usually the case.
At the end of the day, the ride is the important part, and I am sure they have a winner here. I understand cost overruns, and it's clear they had to cut back significantly on some of the non-essentials due to the effort of building in such a difficult location. Hopefully they can come back later and add a little more detailing, though I know that is very unlikely.
Go watch the video just posted of the walk through of the queue. It is on par (if not even better) than the other queues at the park. Definitely more themed than Outlaw Run. It honestly reminds me some of Lightning Run
OK, now I'm seeing it: there are at least a couple thematic displays right as you enter the actual building. The guy doing the SDC stream barely pointed the camera at them for a second. The rest of the queue area down there that you can see behind him is pretty sparse, and that's what I was seeing originally. There are also a lot of blank walls throughout. I guess it's quality vs. quantity, and the big things to look at are concentrated in various areas.
So Swoosh is right, I should probably see it for myself before commenting too much. Lol, not the first time I've jumped the gun with my criticism, but I do have high expectations that they usually meet.
I'm still hoping for a story. I know we've seen the background in the reveal videos, but it doesn't seem to be intact in today's videos.
I'm still hoping for a story. I know we've seen the background in the reveal videos, but it doesn't seem to be intact in today's videos. I need more than just some turning gears to say that it's themed well. Some of this queue is similar to the engineering sketches of WF. And please don't even ask me to get my picture taken before my ride every time. I hope being there in person makes the difference.
Does the ride unload people before it reaches the station? I've seen a couple of videos that make it look like that, like the live stream of the first train. Will this always be the case, or is it just for today?
Does the ride unload people before it reaches the station? I've seen a couple of videos that make it look like that, like the live stream of the first train. Will this always be the case, or is it just for today?
I thought someone said it was going to be 41 degeees at midnight. It’s 7am and it’s 29 degrees. You still think TT will open at 9:30am.
I thought someone said it was going to be 41 degeees at midnight. It’s 7am and it’s 29 degrees. You still think TT will open at 9:30am.
^Uh, by opening on time, I think we were talking about whether or not it would open today, on the first day of the season or if it would have to be pushed back a few weeks like Wonder Woman. We are all thankful that they consistently open these rides on time rather than waiting till the summer like other parks.
Should be just about 41 degrees there now. Hopefully the last of the spring frosts are past us (knock on wood).
I'm told there's a new sound track of pop music bluegrass crossovers for this ride. I think that's an awesome way to blend the old with the new.
So glad this is turning out way better than I had anticipated. Sometimes you wonder if the SDC "culture" around the park is fading, but projects like this show how it endures in new and exciting ways. It's always going to be different and the park has never stopped evolving, but the core elements are there if you look.
^Uh, by opening on time, I think we were talking about whether or not it would open today, on the first day of the season or if it would have to be pushed back a few weeks like Wonder Woman. We are all thankful that they consistently open these rides on time rather than waiting till the summer like other parks.
Should be just about 41 degrees there now. Hopefully the last of the spring frosts are past us (knock on wood).
I'm told there's a new sound track of pop music bluegrass crossovers for this ride. I think that's an awesome way to blend the old with the new.
So glad this is turning out way better than I had anticipated. Sometimes you wonder if the SDC "culture" around the park is fading, but projects like this show how it endures in new and exciting ways. It's always going to be different and the park has never stopped evolving, but the core elements are there if you look.
We have discussed that right here on this firm several times in the past. Somehow I don't think they'll use the Clevery's cover of I Kissed A Girl by Katy Perry and more of Dolly Parton's cover of Collective Soul's Shine. There are some amazing bluegrass covers of bands like Metallica and Guns and Roses out there
Doesn't look like the path got much wider....probably will not help with congestion around that area.
Doesn't look like the path got much wider....probably will not help with congestion around that area.
The whole area around the restrooms was redone. The grade is not as steep and is completely open behind the new TT marquee sign. The big change is the flower bed that was between TNT and Christmas Hollow is gone. The photos don't really show off how much they did open it up.... with that being said, they've created different problems on down Valley Road. I guess we'll see how those play out when it gets real busy
I noticed bluegrass pop song cover in SirWillows video in the station. Can't remember exactly what it was but it had to do with "Time". I was wondering if all the music would but have the time theme...lol
I’m all for shorter wait on PowderKeg
Yeah, the restraints seem to be kind of similar to Outlaw in the size of riders that are able to fit. Some decently large guys made it barely, but others who are bigger about the waist have no chance. Seems to be typical for rides these days that don't have OTSR's.
Sounds like they've only been using two trains so far? Someone also mentioned that they abandoned using the separate unload area at some point in the day and it actually made it a lot more efficient. Perhaps the separate area only makes sense when they have all three trains in operation.
I hope they have it running at peak this weekend. I'm dreading the 4 hour wait.
I have yet to ride TT, but my favorite part of the ride is something no one is talking about right now – the reduced wait times we're sure to find on all the other coasters. The addition of another major coaster and more importantly, its placement, has brought some long overdue ride balance to SDC.
Actually to be balanced there needs to be a big ride back in GE and/or FL
I have yet to ride TT, but my favorite part of the ride is something no one is talking about right now – the reduced wait times we're sure to find on all the other coasters. The addition of another major coaster and more importantly, its placement, has brought some long overdue ride balance to SDC.
Yeah, the restraints seem to be kind of similar to Outlaw in the size of riders that are able to fit. Some decently large guys made it barely, but others who are bigger about the waist have no chance. Seems to be typical for rides these days that don't have OTSR's.
Sounds like they've only been using two trains so far? Someone also mentioned that they abandoned using the separate unload area at some point in the day and it actually made it a lot more efficient. Perhaps the separate area only makes sense when they have all three trains in operation.
I hope they have it running at peak this weekend. I'm dreading the 4 hour wait.
...I wouldn't be surprised if they are rolling out three train operation today. I certainly expect to see it tomorrow.
...I wouldn't be surprised if they are rolling out three train operation today. I certainly expect to see it tomorrow.
Wait times in the app have been much shorter today compared to the last two days. Either there are strangely low crowds, they aren't reporting accurate times or they are running three trains. Could possibly be a mixture of a few reasons too.
All rides have been reporting walk on or very short times today, not just Time Traveler.
^Yes, the have three trains. Under ideal operations you have one train loading, one train unloading, and one train cycling. Dispatches should be under a minute. I have seen some parks get trains unloaded, loaded, and out the station in under 30 seconds. SDC just doesn't have that kind of hurry up culture in ride operations, so even though they have the infrastructure here for very fast operations they aren't really using it well (yet).
It's only been 3 days yet, and I wouldn't be surprised if they are rolling out three train operation today. I certainly expect to see it tomorrow.
It was "Turn Back Time" by Cher. I was absolutely loving hearing these covers; I heard "Free Fallin'" by Tom Petty near the end of the stream on SDC's FB page.
Far as I could hear, the covers I heard were all instrumentals.
Since the coaster doesn't have a traditional mid-brake run and is relatively short....I would assume they would never have 3 trains on it at the same time? Do they even have three trains?
!!!????!!!!?? really guys... Cant we play nice? I have comments to make, but control the keyboard..cant you??
On another note... fridays attendance was only 7500 people. expected more wiht it being spring break and warm,saturday will be cooler.. this weekends numbers will be interesting...
Remember when the name Wild Mountain got thrown around? Saw this on TPR. It's great to see a little touch like this that 99% of people won't get.
Finally made it here. Didn't get much of a chance to really check the area out yet since I'm in the massive opening line, but my first impression is that they didn't actually open it up much at all? It's arranged better I guess, but I thought the objective was more crowd space.... Everything looks nice though and it blends perfectly with the park. They added a number mature trees and kept some.
So first impressions... Fun ride, not very thrilling, but fun. Everything looks pretty nice, but I'm not totally any of it really "makes sense". Time Traveler is impressively mild given the sum of it's elements. After the drop it feels like Firechaser with a couple of loops thrown in. Listening to everyone watching though it may as well be Top Thrill Dragster. It's the family coaster most kids are too scared to ride.
It works well for me though, I like the softer experience these days. Outlaw Run is still awesome, but I can only do it so much. This is a great blend of fun and whimsy with just enough thrill to give it some flavor.
The area up top is nicely done. A bit plain, and some of the signage looks like it came from worlds of fun, but the effort put in to bring in new mature trees is great. You can't tell where the old path was. I just don't get why it was worth the trouble for them. It is set up a bit better logistically, but there's not really any added room. The parade will be tough through here....
Time Traveler's station is a bit on the plain side. There's a couple spots of interesting theming, but most of it is indeed blank space as I had earlier feared. Overall there's enough cool stuff to look at that it matches the effort from Outlaw Run and looks adequate, but I was hoping for a bit more.
All in all, it's nice and uniquely SDC.
It seems to be a "theme" with SDC to skimp on theming elements late into the construction stage. You just know there was more planned in the LR final room before disembarking - certainly more than a beating heart and pulsing light. There's still a need for a splash effect on PK as was in the original plans. And for this, we can only imagine there was more planned in the queue and possibly even a show building.
It seems to be a "theme" with SDC to skimp on theming elements late into the construction stage. You just know there was more planned in the LR final room before disembarking - certainly more than a beating heart and pulsing light. There's still a need for a splash effect on PK as was in the original plans. And for this, we can only imagine there was more planned in the queue and possibly even a show building.
I will say while I'm disappointed on some of the theming being skimpy at least we didn't get treated to ancient Rome buildings as described in the concept. Lol ::)
It also says the park didn't expect the restraints to be so restrictive, so there might be some adjustments done in the future. It's fun to listen to if you want more opinions and firsthand experiences about the ride.
Remember when the name Wild Mountain got thrown around? Saw this on TPR. It's great to see a little touch like this that 99% of people won't get.
Some of the theming decisions come down to the modern trend of the park. Notice how there are less hand painted signs every year? Less random old antiques hanging on buildings or scattered around flower buildings? Some of the new buildings have no adornments other than their basic architecture. They are going for a "clean" feeling now apparently, more like other parks. In the old days they decked everything out and had a tree growing through it...
It seems to be a "theme" with SDC to skimp on theming elements late into the construction stage. You just know there was more planned in the LR final room before disembarking - certainly more than a beating heart and pulsing light. There's still a need for a splash effect on PK as was in the original plans. And for this, we can only imagine there was more planned in the queue and possibly even a show building.
I will say while I'm disappointed on some of the theming being skimpy at least we didn't get treated to ancient Rome buildings as described in the concept. Lol ::)
So first impressions... Fun ride, not very thrilling, but fun. Everything looks pretty nice, but I'm not totally any of it really "makes sense". Time Traveler is impressively mild given the sum of it's elements. After the drop it feels like Firechaser with a couple of loops thrown in. Listening to everyone watching though it may as well be Top Thrill Dragster. It's the family coaster most kids are too scared to ride.
It works well for me though, I like the softer experience these days. Outlaw Run is still awesome, but I can only do it so much. This is a great blend of fun and whimsy with just enough thrill to give it some flavor.
The area up top is nicely done. A bit plain, and some of the signage looks like it came from worlds of fun, but the effort put in to bring in new mature trees is great. You can't tell where the old path was. I just don't get why it was worth the trouble for them. It is set up a bit better logistically, but there's not really any added room. The parade will be tough through here....
Time Traveler's station is a bit on the plain side. There's a couple spots of interesting theming, but most of it is indeed blank space as I had earlier feared. Overall there's enough cool stuff to look at that it matches the effort from Outlaw Run and looks adequate, but I was hoping for a bit more.
All in all, it's nice and uniquely SDC.
As far as the new setup is concerned. Have they alleviated the problems of the skillet lines backing up into the main thoroughfare ? If that has been accomplished especially during peak days I think it would be a win.
A train is currently sitting at the first launch and worker are up there talking to people on it.
So first impressions... Fun ride, not very thrilling, but fun. Everything looks pretty nice, but I'm not totally any of it really "makes sense". Time Traveler is impressively mild given the sum of it's elements. After the drop it feels like Firechaser with a couple of loops thrown in. Listening to everyone watching though it may as well be Top Thrill Dragster. It's the family coaster most kids are too scared to ride.
It works well for me though, I like the softer experience these days. Outlaw Run is still awesome, but I can only do it so much. This is a great blend of fun and whimsy with just enough thrill to give it some flavor.
The area up top is nicely done. A bit plain, and some of the signage looks like it came from worlds of fun, but the effort put in to bring in new mature trees is great. You can't tell where the old path was. I just don't get why it was worth the trouble for them. It is set up a bit better logistically, but there's not really any added room. The parade will be tough through here....
Time Traveler's station is a bit on the plain side. There's a couple spots of interesting theming, but most of it is indeed blank space as I had earlier feared. Overall there's enough cool stuff to look at that it matches the effort from Outlaw Run and looks adequate, but I was hoping for a bit more.
All in all, it's nice and uniquely SDC.
As far as the new setup is concerned. Have they alleviated the problems of the skillet lines backing up into the main thoroughfare ? If that has been accomplished especially during peak days I think it would be a win.
It does not seem to me that is has. Seems worse but that is probably just the increased crowds in that area. Maybe it will calm down eventually. I will say they have just about buried FM behind all that. You can't really see it anymore and would not even know it was there unless you were walking to the train and happened to look over.
A train is currently sitting at the first launch and worker are up there talking to people on it.
I am telling you I just have this bad feeling this will be a ride that breaks down quite a bit. It is just way too complicated.
A train is currently sitting at the first launch and worker are up there talking to people on it.
I am telling you I just have this bad feeling this will be a ride that breaks down quite a bit. It is just way too complicated.
I'm worried too....seems like a lot of fail points....a lot more than a traditional coaster that really just has a lift hill, brake run(s), train restraints, and station stuff that could break. This ride has all that (minus the lift hill) plus two launch hills and a controlled spin feature. Added risks for a new type of ride. I really hope we are wrong and the it's actually more reliable.
Here's a walk through of the changes to Valley Road.1. Thanks for the report. I see that they've been in operation for "almost 30 years" and that they were established in 1968. That puts us closer to the turn of the century than we've ever been (I think.).
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/03/valley-road-changes-sdc.html
Here's a walk through of all of the decorations in the Time Traveler queue
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/03/time-traveler-sdc_17.html
Here's a walk through of the changes to Valley Road.
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/03/valley-road-changes-sdc.html
Here's a walk through of all of the decorations in the Time Traveler queue
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/03/time-traveler-sdc_17.html
They had all kinds of problems yesterday. I didn't end up being able to get any rides in. It was closed in the morning due to being too cold, and when it opened I passed on the two+ hour wait. I think they still had only two trains running at the time. By the afternoon they were having trouble with the launch or something. I think it was down almost the entire afternoon with cars stalled on the launch a couple of times. I ended up doing the cave and leaving before 5, so I don't know if they ever sorted it all out. Nothing totally unexpected for a new coaster with launch segments.
The more I experienced the new area, the more perturbed I got about how Flooded Mine is currently being treated. It's ridiculous for new patrons to find it, if they can even tell that a ride is there at all. It's basically a hidden entrance now with no sign, and the journey from the exit back to the stroller parking is not easy when the food places are in full swing and you aren't familiar with the park. It's a real hassle for families to ride now, and I know they wouldn't set it up like this if they planned to keep FM long term...
The trees are so nice though. The eating area is a big improvement over the old one. At least they kept that tradition going.
So first impressions... Fun ride, not very thrilling, but fun. Everything looks pretty nice, but I'm not totally any of it really "makes sense". Time Traveler is impressively mild given the sum of it's elements. After the drop it feels like Firechaser with a couple of loops thrown in. Listening to everyone watching though it may as well be Top Thrill Dragster. It's the family coaster most kids are too scared to ride.
It works well for me though, I like the softer experience these days. Outlaw Run is still awesome, but I can only do it so much. This is a great blend of fun and whimsy with just enough thrill to give it some flavor.
The area up top is nicely done. A bit plain, and some of the signage looks like it came from worlds of fun, but the effort put in to bring in new mature trees is great. You can't tell where the old path was. I just don't get why it was worth the trouble for them. It is set up a bit better logistically, but there's not really any added room. The parade will be tough through here....
Time Traveler's station is a bit on the plain side. There's a couple spots of interesting theming, but most of it is indeed blank space as I had earlier feared. Overall there's enough cool stuff to look at that it matches the effort from Outlaw Run and looks adequate, but I was hoping for a bit more.
All in all, it's nice and uniquely SDC.
As far as the new setup is concerned. Have they alleviated the problems of the skillet lines backing up into the main thoroughfare ? If that has been accomplished especially during peak days I think it would be a win.
It does not seem to me that is has. Seems worse but that is probably just the increased crowds in that area. Maybe it will calm down eventually. I will say they have just about buried FM behind all that. You can't really see it anymore and would not even know it was there unless you were walking to the train and happened to look over.
Funny thing about FM is that ridership was up this past week.
We tried Time Traveler 3 times today but it was down each time. It was up for about 15 minutes early in the afternoon then about 10 minutes later in the day. They finally gave up and shut it down for good just after 5.
Hopefully, they can bring someone in while the park is closed the next 2 days to fix it. We’ll try again on Wednesday.
The Today show going live from the city tomorrow? For some reason I thought they were there last week.
The Today show going live from the city tomorrow? For some reason I thought they were there last week.
Looking back at the post, it doesn’t say live. Could just be airing tomorrow.
Not live. prerecorded from last week.
airs at 10:00 CST this morning..
I hope that is accurate. I read it on FB this morning.. (LOL, has to be true!)
Not live. prerecorded from last week.
airs at 10:00 CST this morning..
I hope that is accurate. I read it on FB this morning.. (LOL, has to be true!)
It’s 10:10 and not one rider has got on TT yet. Been over 42 degrees since 9:15. Spirits are still high(random Tom petty sing alongs) but also getting frustrated. I’ve been in line since 9:00 and I’m just past the photo op.
No sign of TV
Here's a walk through of the changes to Valley Road.1. Thanks for the report. I see that they've been in operation for "almost 30 years" and that they were established in 1968. That puts us closer to the turn of the century than we've ever been (I think.).
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/03/valley-road-changes-sdc.html
Here's a walk through of all of the decorations in the Time Traveler queue
http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/03/time-traveler-sdc_17.html
Why does the park continue it? Couldn't most of this be spread out during a festival. It's like a park that's haVing some choir or band day.
So after some of you have had a chance to ride and reflect. What is the consensus of the TT? Is it more of a family ride, or an extreme ride, or just a cool roller coaster?
So after some of you have had a chance to ride and reflect. What is the consensus of the TT? Is it more of a family ride, or an extreme ride, or just a cool roller coaster?
46 degrees this morning... supose to be nice,, get ready for lines today.... everybody there have a good time.. ;D
46 degrees this morning... supose to be nice,, get ready for lines today.... everybody there have a good time.. ;D
Be surprised if TT is open. Just saying
It’s open now.
Usual crap on TT.
It’s the new PK
I think TT is a neat ride when it works, but IMO it is not so spectacular that it is worth waiting for more than about 30 minutes or so. Not an hour or 2 for sure. Anyway, on Wednesday when we were there it was talk on for the most part and we rode it about 4-5 times in a row. We did not ride it when we were back Thursday. Anyway, I did notice the rear car seems to always come into the station crooked and does not straighten out like all the rest of the cars. I don't recall it doing this when we were there opening day/week. Maybe an issue already?
The line is to the sign because of the forced photo op at the bottom of the steps
The line is to the sign because of the forced photo op at the bottom of the steps
Another forced photo op?
I really, really dislike forced photo ops. >:(
The line is to the sign because of the forced photo op at the bottom of the steps
A few things I'd like to slightly (maybe more) disagree with.
The photo op on the way in is not a forced photo op. It is in the line, but they aren't forcing people to take photos and I haven't had any issues with them letting us skip it. They've been very very polite and friendly about it. A notable change from the way they were in the past. (oh, and with the new $60 unlimited photo downloads in a year they are now offering, I won't be skipping it anymore either)
Second, the ride is not a lemon. it is not the ride's fault when you are choosing to be there on a day that it never gets out of the low 40's temperature wise, and unfortunately that's been true more weekends than not. And most of opening week as well.
There have been some issues. All new coasters have them, and especially new models. Have we forgotten how much downtime Outlaw Run had when it opened, and problems? A lot. But no one is calling it a lemon. And weather has played a major role in them not having an opportunity to sort out some of the small glitches that new rides have. hard to do when you can't run it because it's to cold to operate.
Out of 4 visits to the park already this year, today was the first day I didn't see it running. And I didn't expect it to run when the high today was only supposed to be a degree above it's shut down operating temperature. the other days it ran consistently the whole time I was there. (well, except for media day, but that's because it was being delayed by cameras and filming, not operations or bugs)
It's normal to take 2-4 months to work all of those little things out of a coaster. For years now I've strongly recommended people to not plan a trip around one new coaster within the first month or two of it's operating life. Far to great a chance it won't be going for various tuning up issues, and TT is no exception to that rule. (And for the record I've seen an experienced that with ShieKra at BGT, Manta at Sea World, Outlaw Run here, even Scream at SFMM had a rough first month, and multiple other coasters over the years as well.)
Wait. You honestly think the issues with the sensors are temperature related?
No. Sorry that’s not accurate at all. Even the General Public is smart enough to realize that the trains should not be coming in sideways.
I honestly think they need to do a second queue for photos only or post better signage directing people to get photos or not instead of implying its "forced". Most of the queue space in the building in its current format is wasted and they could otherwise actually make smart use of it with some simple modifications.
Wait. You honestly think the issues with the sensors are temperature related?
No. Sorry that’s not accurate at all. Even the General Public is smart enough to realize that the trains should not be coming in sideways.
Reading comprehension much? :-)
I'll make it simple for you Swoosh, and keep the sentences short.
All new coasters have issues and bugs to work out.
TT is a new coaster.
Therefore it has issues and bugs to work out.
When a new coaster has issues, it usually takes a couple months to work them all out
TT has been running less than a month
Cold and weather has reduced that operating time even more.
Therefore TT hasn't had near enough time to work out all of it's issues and bugs.
The line is to the sign because of the forced photo op at the bottom of the steps
Yes, that REALLY REALLY REALLY annoys me and slows things WAY WAY down. I am sure hoping they do away with that sooner rather than later.
THe last thing I want is some photo of me and a bunch of strangers in a unposed setting. This whole picture things is stupid anywhere, at any park. I will pass them by just as I always have. I do not even look at them I just walk by.
Yes, but how many B&Ms could we have gotten for the price of TT?
A least a couple. I’d much rather had a hyper doing dips down the side of a mountain popping up over the treeline
Yeah I am probably being a bit on the pessimistic side here, but I kinda have a bad feeling with the expenditure on TT and then reportedly going over budget on its development/construction, they might not do anything major to the park in the next 4-5 years. The weather is also probably a determining factor as I am thinking the PTB are not liking the low crowds right now considering that they just opened and hyped up a worlds first coaster. Unlike DW, SDC does not have the crowds and capital that park can bring in which at the end of the day is what matters where expansions and additions are concerned. The summer season crowds will be the most telling on this aspect as to whether the massive risk & investment on TT was a success or not.
Yeah I am probably being a bit on the pessimistic side here, but I kinda have a bad feeling with the expenditure on TT and then reportedly going over budget on its development/construction, they might not do anything major to the park in the next 4-5 years. The weather is also probably a determining factor as I am thinking the PTB are not liking the low crowds right now considering that they just opened and hyped up a worlds first coaster. Unlike DW, SDC does not have the crowds and capital that park can bring in which at the end of the day is what matters where expansions and additions are concerned. The summer season crowds will be the most telling on this aspect as to whether the massive risk & investment on TT was a success or not.
traffic count will be fine... We get school out for summer, weather breaks.. 3 hour wait lines for TT.. Get ready!! Its coming.......
To Anyone going tomorrow, Good Luck with the new area around TT and going downhill...Yeah imagine what Christmas will be like... it was already kinda bad around there when everyone was trying to pile up around that area waiting for the train.
If there is the crowd of people like we think there will be, you wont be able to get within 200 yards of that area. it will be shoulder to shoulder from Browns Candy to Frisco Barn and over to The Train..
To Anyone going tomorrow, Good Luck with the new area around TT and going downhill...Yeah imagine what Christmas will be like... it was already kinda bad around there when everyone was trying to pile up around that area waiting for the train.
If there is the crowd of people like we think there will be, you wont be able to get within 200 yards of that area. it will be shoulder to shoulder from Browns Candy to Frisco Barn and over to The Train..
I was there on Friday and got updated photos and operational video of Time Traveler. I have to say it's gotten A LOT better since it has finally broken itself in. I had not rode it since opening day and it feels quite a bit more intense now.
Really the only gripe I still have is how it stops at the first launch. Hopefully in the off season they can copy/paste the programing used from the second launch onto the first to eliminate that 10 second pause. (which also seems to be having issues stranding riders on the track causing the ride to get shut down for maintenance) Either that or construct some kind of simple show building with some smoke and lights or something.
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Thanks all.
In other news, I hear there's some kind of new construction going on in midtown? I'll be there this weekend to see for myself, but if you have photos from today, throw them at us!
In other news, I hear there's some kind of new construction going on in midtown? I'll be there this weekend to see for myself, but if you have photos from today, throw them at us!
Big Jacks is being removed. No other details than that
I'm not sure why it wasn't left as a sandwich shop... perhaps there was something wrong with the building.
I'm also not sure why they suddenly needed to do demo right now, with the park about to kick into high gear for summer season. Roof collapse or a code violation?
I'll bet they leave it as open space though. Gotta fit more people in for the Christmas spectacle...
My dad did the artwork in that shop back in the 60's. Sad to see it go. Hope they saved some of it.
Guess we are blind -- walked up and down the corkscrew Thursday afternoon, Friday morning, and early Friday afternoon -- went to Sullivan's Mill and to Hannah's and never saw the fence or destruction going on....
The latest update on the Midtown Project
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/06/midtown-project-sdc.html
Some changes at Time Traveler
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/06/time-traveler-sdc.html
A look inside the new Cowboy Jepp's
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/06/city-changes-sdc.html
Flooded Mine 50th Signage
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/05/flooded-mine-50th-sdc.html
http://www.ky3.com/content/news/Silver-Dollar-City-explains-causes-of-maintenance-delays-on-Time-Traveler-483994491.html
Warning....It's a hard story to sit through....(99% of local TV reporting is hard for me to watch)....but at least they got an official park employee to explain and didn't just use online reviews for the whole report.
The latest update on the Midtown Project
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/06/midtown-project-sdc.html
Some changes at Time Traveler
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/06/time-traveler-sdc.html
A look inside the new Cowboy Jepp's
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/06/city-changes-sdc.html
Flooded Mine 50th Signage
https://www.midwestinfoguide.com/2018/05/flooded-mine-50th-sdc.html
Still kinda baffled why they chose the summer season to do a major reconstruction project like that. Seems like it created a huge bottleneck there.
I don't mind the construction, but did they really have to wall the entire area off? Hopefully they can reconfigure that soon once the walls go up. I didn't realize how many times I usually take that route to cut through the park until they closed it off.
I wonder if the new building will have any gimmicks to hold lights... Should be a nice new facade anyway.
They didn't have a choice. From what I have heard it was slated to be done this coming off season, but it decided it needed to be done a little sooner.
They didn't have a choice. From what I have heard it was slated to be done this coming off season, but it decided it needed to be done a little sooner.
So, they had a choice, and chose.
I don't mind the construction, but did they really have to wall the entire area off? Hopefully they can reconfigure that soon once the walls go up. I didn't realize how many times I usually take that route to cut through the park until they closed it off.
I wonder if the new building will have any gimmicks to hold lights... Should be a nice new facade anyway.
I wish they would turn the new place into a coffee shop.
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They can do that at any Starbucks (or McDonalds for that matter). Leave the laptops at home and enjoy SDC for the 1880s frontier village it is!
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They can do that at any Starbucks (or McDonalds for that matter). Leave the laptops at home and enjoy SDC for the 1880s frontier village it is!
Think PRE-ROPE DROP.
^Add a wifi hotspot and seating, and I could hang out in the area with my laptop. I think we've pondered this area before as a peaceful for us trendy folks to chill. I wouldn't drink the coffee, but that's what would give life to such an idea.
Midtown Coffee
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They can do that at any Starbucks (or McDonalds for that matter). Leave the laptops at home and enjoy SDC for the 1880s frontier village it is!
Also, I don't ever intend to enter a Starbucks.
Sand, I'm not supporting Starbucks AT ALL, but they did support the troops during the Iraqi war when my son was there as a Captain. He talked about it. Not sure about 3 or 4 yrs. ago...what's the story there?
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They can do that at any Starbucks (or McDonalds for that matter). Leave the laptops at home and enjoy SDC for the 1880s frontier village it is!
Think PRE-ROPE DROP.
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They can do that at any Starbucks (or McDonalds for that matter). Leave the laptops at home and enjoy SDC for the 1880s frontier village it is!
Think PRE-ROPE DROP.
If they would keep it that way it may be ok. Still I don't think I would like to see people sitting around SDC with laptops. Aren't we the keepers of the theme? Didn't we rant and rave when they had a Facebook logo on the Outlaw Run sign? Can't we keep the frontier illusion? <end of rant> wow did we ever get off topic. I think I need to go watch a western...
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They can do that at any Starbucks (or McDonalds for that matter). Leave the laptops at home and enjoy SDC for the 1880s frontier village it is!
Think PRE-ROPE DROP.
If they would keep it that way it may be ok. Still I don't think I would like to see people sitting around SDC with laptops. Aren't we the keepers of the theme? Didn't we rant and rave when they had a Facebook logo on the Outlaw Run sign? Can't we keep the frontier illusion? <end of rant> wow did we ever get off topic. I think I need to go watch a western...
Not wanting to argue but don"t you think that ship has already sailed ? A cell phone now days is as powerful as most computers. They encourage people to check the app. for ride and show times. Everyone is taking photos with their phones. Heck you even have employees with tablets doing surveys. I do not really care because I would not bring in a laptop anyway. I just want a nice coffee shop.
To be totally honest I do not even know what the theme is anymore it has been broken so many times. Now we have all the outskirt areas. Wilsons farm, Grand exposition, Firemans landing, TT, cartoon characters, They had the globtrotters. Then in the fall they throw in the cowboy stuff. It is totally confusing.
To be totally honest I do not even know what the theme is anymore it has been broken so many times. Now we have all the outskirt areas. Wilsons farm, Grand exposition, Firemans landing, TT, cartoon characters, They had the globtrotters. Then in the fall they throw in the cowboy stuff. It is totally confusing.
Roark Mountain Roasters
Tanney Tea Imports
Names?
The building replacing Big Jacks is nearing completion. It’s wooden instead of rock and stucco. I’ll try to get photos of it soon.
What is BOH?
Very nice. Love the wood siding. Good massing and architectural details. Pretty similar to Big Jacks overall. Glad they kept those trees in place.
Would be awesome if they made this the permanent home of season pass sales during winter. I hate when they take out the school house stuff to put it in there...
That are looks great Swoosh, I will finally get to see it tuesday..
That are looks great Swoosh, I will finally get to see it tuesday..
Hey while you’re in town will you check to see if they’ve made any progress on the 3 new rides at AFP?
I’m surprised no one has mentioned it yet - but the audio is working in FM again. Almost all of it. Including Hurry Up Fred at the end of the ride