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Title: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: sanddunerider on April 23, 2015, 06:55:54 PM
Saw this on the 1Branson board, one of the members posted it..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg3hgwUKWSk&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Junior, too! on April 23, 2015, 07:03:55 PM
Pretty cool! It amazes me the high quality pictures. Despite sitting empty for years, it appears the park has been relatively well maintained.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: joshblakebran on April 23, 2015, 08:00:45 PM
I really miss Celebration City. My kids loved it. We would do SDC during the day and then leave and do CC at night.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: History Buff on April 23, 2015, 09:33:03 PM
I can't believe that carousel is sitting there uncovered in the weather.  I guess the cats are taking care of it.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: joshblakebran on April 24, 2015, 02:54:55 PM
I thought the same thing with the carousel. It looks to be in very good shape still.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: U Smell Smoke on April 24, 2015, 05:14:08 PM
My kids loved CC as well.  We used to get to Whitewater at opening and hit it hard there for 3 or 4 hours and then grab some lunch at Wendy's across the street and head to CC for the evening.  Always made for a great day!
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: biscuitcreek on April 28, 2015, 08:53:41 AM
We miss Celebration City, too. We would buy the All Park pass and go to either SDC or White Water during the day and CC at night.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: How-doFolks on April 29, 2015, 05:17:08 AM
Never did get to go to CC.. :( Cool video tho'!!
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Dewayne on May 17, 2015, 10:10:38 AM
Excellent video. I saw it last week, I still see my comment there too. I didnt know you guys knew about the video. Some people say it was stupid building CC because if they didnt, we would still have what used to be there (cant remember the name) which would be something, and something to go into is better than nothing. But I think it was a much more stupid idea to close it. Lots of people I know, really liked it. It doesnt matter if they didnt make as much money as they wanted to. The park still made lots more money than most people make in a year. If they needed more, they could buy a better ride than Roaring Falls, or stop making the go karts free. I loved the go karts very much and was very greatful they were free, but if they needed the money, they could charge people to ride them (like almost every other go kart track does in America) then less people would be riding them and they could save $$$ on gas. They can always make changes to any park so they can make more money, whether it is changing rides, or adding/taking out a ride. It was a very dumb idea to close it down. I dont care if they sell it and someone buys it and does reopen it as a theme park or HFE reopens it as something else. Either way, something needs to happen to it. We need sonething there. We need more fun/entertainment in Branson, especially nightly entertainment. Something that is totally different every night. It will be good for business, make a lot of money, it will be good for Branson because it will get the economy up, get money flowing, help Branson get back on its feet, and make Branson as good as it used to be. It will get more vacationers, which is exactly what we need. Ever since CC closed, its like Branson started slipping, and its kinda starting to go down. The only thing holding Branson up is SDC as well as the shows, which help, but mainly SDC. Without SDC I dont think Branson would even be alive today, even though Branson is just barely alive...

This is just sad...
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Gilligan on May 17, 2015, 10:24:25 AM
1.  I'm very sure HFE put a lot of thought into their decision to close CC and made their final decision based on many factors; only some of which are privy to the public.  They know what they are doing based on many years of success!

2.  Branson would still be alive without SDC, and they are doing far better than "barely surviving".
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Dewayne on May 17, 2015, 10:27:05 AM
Not like they used to. Look around. Lots of stuff went out or closed down, some because of the tornado. Jim Stafford went out then came back, unexpectedly. I do like Jim Stafford. Im glad hes back. Hooefully he will help.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Swoosh on May 17, 2015, 10:52:55 AM
It's not like Jim wanted to leave - he didn't really have a choice.

A lot of acts have left town or closed, but a lot of those acts have retired due to age.
Branson just refused to change with the times and it has caught up with them. 
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Dewayne on May 17, 2015, 11:05:21 AM
True. Thats also why its starting to go downhill and not as popular anymore as Vegas or other places still are. Branson still has to TRY to compete with places like Vegas. It might be hard to compete, but thats just how it is...they gotta try...
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: shavethewhales on May 17, 2015, 12:59:48 PM
It doesnt matter if they didnt make as much money as they wanted to.

LOL. Laroy, you need to understand that that entire post is entitled nonsense. CC was created and closed based on strategic business moves that we'll never be entirely privy too. Obviously if it made them enough money though it would still be open or something new would be in its place.


As far as the drone video itself goes, I've been biting my tongue seeing some of these. There are some serious issues here with land owner's right to privacy, plus the serious security and safety concerns with some of the people who have tried to fly drones next to roller coasters. Don't get me wrong, I think personal video drones are awesome and useful, but a lot of the yahoos that are flying them around make me nervous.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: joshblakebran on May 17, 2015, 01:15:36 PM
I know what you are saying Shave...I'm surprised there is not some sort of permit requirement to fly them...there have to be some restrictions when they are flown on private property.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: chittlins on May 17, 2015, 04:09:32 PM
It's not like Jim wanted to leave - he didn't really have a choice.

A lot of acts have left town or closed, but a lot of those acts have retired due to age.
Branson just refused to change with the times and it has caught up with them. 

This can not be said enough.

Bless Mr. Bass Pro's heart, He is trying his best with the investments south of town.

Still thinK he should add the snowflex and whitewater complex to his resort areas. I often reference the the year round snowflex facility in Lynchburg Virginia owned by Liberty University. They are expanding it.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Dewayne on May 17, 2015, 04:49:41 PM
The drones, just like selfie sticks, are almost useless because you cant use them all the time, theyre a hastle to carry, and theyre only good for 1 thing. There are rules against using them. You cant fly them over anybodys property who doesnt want you to or anybody who signed that contract to keep them off their property. I heard about that on the news the other day.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Junior, too! on May 17, 2015, 06:49:17 PM
I'm one of the older folks who remember the Mutton Hollow complex on the CC site, and still lament the haphazard way the corridor highway from Hwy 76 and Hwy 265 was developed. I was in Branson a week ago, and noticed my BHS classmate, whose family has owned Mutton Hollow since the 60's or early 70s, now has the other half of the hollow for sale.  I would rater see it become part of Henning State Park, but I imagine some day it will be developed. Such a shame. To those of you under 40 who don't remember what it looked like, you missed out. It was so beautiful. Look in flea markets for old post cards, someday the hollow will be filled with motels and fast food joints. All that said, I look forward to the time CC is revamped. I an sure Herschend Family Entertainment will do a good job. I enjoyed my two visits to CC.So did my family.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Dewayne on May 17, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
That is...if they rebuild it or build something else, but I doubt that will happen. Theyre in no mood to do anything with it and they arent planning on it either. But I wish they would do something. Every time I go by it, I get sad and mad at the same time. I wish I could have seen Mutton Hollow...
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Joy on May 17, 2015, 07:36:09 PM
I remember Mutton Hollow! It kinda felt like what SDC must have felt like when it was just the main street area, before the rides. We went horseback riding once there; it was so much fun!

Honestly, I think one of the many factors that led to CC getting shut down was its hours. They kept advertising it as a "night park," but it was only ever open until 10pm! With SDC open from morning to 6-7pm, it just seems like people probably thought it wouldn't be worth it to go to CC after being at SDC because there wouldn't be much time available to spend at CC.

That's where Disney has a good layout in Anaheim -- California Adventure is DIRECTLY across from Disneyland, so people can go back and forth between the parks. Same with Universal Studios & Islands of Adventure in Orlando. Heck, even, to some degree, Magic Kingdom and Epcot; they aren't next to each other, but it's a quick ride on the monorail to get back and forth. And you can pretty much walk from Epcot to Hollywood Studios (wellll... it's a bit of a walk; but you can easily grab a park bus from one of the resorts right next to Epcot, and it'd take little time to get to DHS).

CC was just located way too far from SDC. And honestly, I feel like White Water is a bit too far from SDC, too. They need everything in a closer vicinity to each other... I know, though, that the terrain makes that hard. Maybe move White Water to the CC land and build some kind of transportation connection between it and SDC.

They also need some kind of shuttle-only dedicated road from the Wilderness Campground to SDC; right now, the shuttle has to go all the way up 265 to 76 and over to Indian Point Road in order to get to the park. They need a road that goes straight west; I'd certainly be more interested in staying at the Wilderness if the shuttle didn't have such a long way to go to get to the park. As it is right now, I prefer Deer Run because you can walk to the nearest SDC parking lot and catch the tram.

And... now I'm done. I've gone a bit too far off topic. OOPS.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: DianaGail on May 17, 2015, 07:42:06 PM
None of us know that they aren't planning anything with it.  Just because they haven't come out and said anything doesn't mean there is nothing on the drawing board.  They have kept up with maintenance of the cc site.  It likely won't be soon, but eventually there will be something on that site, herschend owned or not. 

I remember mutton hollow!  I do wish there was something like that.  My kids would love it. 
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Dewayne on May 17, 2015, 07:42:41 PM
Joy, you are perfectly on topic and you are absolutely right. They do need all of that, but if WW does move, what would go in WW? I feel like nobody is thinking about that....

Also, the cost to move all the towers, slides, theming stuff like rocks, and water pipes would be so high. Almost over the moon.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Dewayne on May 17, 2015, 07:52:06 PM
I highly doubt anything will show up there. SDC wants to stay the only park in Branson. They want to make it hard for anybody else to even try to build another theme park related place anywhere near there. They dont want "competition". But sometimes competition is a good thing. Besides, every other place and store/restaurant has competition. You cant fully keep it away. There is no use in keeping CC free of anything for us to do. I feel like SDC is just wanting to be a#%&$*@s by doing this. They dont want any of us to have fun in the CC area anytime soon. If they were even thinking about doing something, I think we would hear something about it, even though we will need to keep a close eye on not just SDC but other areas around Branson too. SDC could be planning anything, anywhere, at any time. The next attraction might not be in the park, Im thinking....
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Joy on May 17, 2015, 08:28:39 PM
CC wasn't competition; it was owned by the same company as SDC. What they needed to do was to keep CC open later at night; 10pm was just not late enough for the "night time park" that they were advertising it as. Keep it open 'til 12 or 1am; that gives people who were at SDC time to rest and then go to CC and have enough time to enjoy CC before it closes.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Dewayne on May 17, 2015, 09:00:49 PM
Yes I know HFE owned both. What I meant is they are keeping security in CC and wont sell it because theyre afraid of a little competition, if someone else bought it, or if Mutton Hollow was still there. They probably saw it as competition....

Not late enough? I never heard of a park being open that late. I thought 10 PM was late enough for a night time park because thats when most people wanna go to sleep. 12 PM or 1 AM might be a little late, even for a night park....As long as they didnt close at 7 PM, I considered it a night park, even though I was mad I had to leave at that time....
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Swoosh on May 17, 2015, 10:24:44 PM
I think the main issue with CC was that it wasn't "special enough" to be a companion park to SDC.  The park reeked of carnival with light themeing.  Oh sure, the main midway was beautiful (and still is judging by the pictures) but the rest of the park was odd ride choices that really did not fit the SDC-style mold.  Other than Wildcat and the Laser Light Show, the park was very forgettable at best.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: History Buff on May 19, 2015, 10:25:19 AM
Exactly, Swoosh.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: runner1960 on May 19, 2015, 04:25:51 PM
CC always hit me as a upscale carnival. After my first visit I probably would have never went back if it wasn"t for Ozcat. I still think it would be a great place for a mixed use development with nightclubs, micro brewery's and a bowling complex anchored by a aquarium. Then use the terrain to have a small ski slope in the winter and ice skating rink.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Dewayne on May 19, 2015, 04:37:16 PM
Maybe, but nightclubs and beer dont fit under "Good, Clean, Fun", which is what Branson is suppost to be. Branson is suppost to be a clean, family-friendly town.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: tinmann620 on May 19, 2015, 04:48:01 PM
umn... not to be the devil's advocate, but there are MORE bars and clubs, than churches, already in Branson. Not to mention all the many restaurants including Olive Garden, that serve alcohol. Branson is no different than any other city
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Dewayne on May 19, 2015, 05:09:29 PM
Yes, they are starting to pop up, but it might not be a good idea. It might ruin the family-friendly, good, clean fun theme....
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: runner1960 on May 19, 2015, 05:40:18 PM
Yes, they are starting to pop up, but it might not be a good idea. It might ruin the family-friendly, good, clean fun theme....

Why not give the people what they want ? A good beer never hurt anyone. Branson is going to have to get away from the Old image if it is to survive, but this thread is about CC.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: tinmann620 on May 19, 2015, 07:10:18 PM
They are not starting to pop up. My Grandfather would stop at a tavern going to, and leaving the lake in the 60's and 70's.  Those of us 20 plus years older than these 20 year old kids remember when Branson was nothing more than a tourist trap with near by fishing and boating, NO religion involved in promoting the area. That atmosphere developed mid 80's... Just saying.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Gilligan on May 19, 2015, 07:33:38 PM
They are not starting to pop up. My Grandfather would stop at a tavern going to, and leaving the lake in the 60's and 70's.  Those of us 20 plus years older than these 20 year old kids remember when Branson was nothing more than a tourist trap with near by fishing and boating, NO religion involved in promoting the area. That atmosphere developed mid 80's... Just saying.

I was going to say the same thing, Tinman.  There were bars here 35 years ago.  Bars and restaurants serving alcohol at the Landing have been here, how long?  10 years??
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: chittlins on May 19, 2015, 08:47:59 PM
CC always hit me as a upscale carnival. After my first visit I probably would have never went back if it wasn"t for Ozcat. I still think it would be a great place for a mixed use development with nightclubs, micro brewery's and a bowling complex anchored by a aquarium. Then use the terrain to have a small ski slope in the winter and ice skating rink.


I've heard these ideas before 8)

Of course,  my rants included rides that were per ride or wristband and a new movie complex with stadium seating and some screens with meal service. I wouldn't do a ski slope but a tubing attraction.

The Snowflex facility I often sight just added long tubing runs.
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Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: shavethewhales on May 19, 2015, 10:51:20 PM
I'm going to have to make a dedicated thread for "Branson's Problem's" or something so we don't have to have this same discussion several times a year.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Swoosh on May 19, 2015, 10:55:33 PM
I still don't understand why they did not make this park something like what Landry's did at Keemah
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Dewayne on May 19, 2015, 11:24:25 PM
I'm going to have to make a dedicated thread for "Branson's Problem's" or something so we don't have to have this same discussion several times a year.

I thinks its since we think that there is nothing more to talk about in this subject, is why we wander off to something that somebody else brings up. I keep thinking that someone will transfer this convo to another thread without me mentioning it, but I guess not. So please, if you want us to stay on topic, just please move our convo to another thread. We sometimes go to a fork in the road and try to go both ways, so it needs to be settled in a different thread, while we stay on topic in the other. Sorry I didnt bring this up earlier.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Dewayne on May 19, 2015, 11:29:17 PM
Since lots of people, like on the Showboat, always said Branson is suppost to be a clean, family-friendly town, I thought there was no alcohol, or that it was banned, even though I did see the Boat Bar in Branson Landing and overlooked it as well as beer in Walmart. So, now we are getting bars. They also said we dont have gambling, are casinos next?
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Swoosh on May 20, 2015, 07:12:30 AM
<facepalm>
really Laroy?
So just because someone consumes alcohol that automatically means they are going to get drunk and be stupid.  Wow. 
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: runner1960 on May 20, 2015, 07:31:03 AM
<facepalm>
really Laroy?
So just because someone consumes alcohol that automatically means they are going to get drunk and be stupid.  Wow. 

Or a bad person, such a judgemental attitude.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: chittlins on May 20, 2015, 07:49:45 AM
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Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Dewayne on May 20, 2015, 01:00:56 PM
What in the world is that chittlins?
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: Swoosh on May 20, 2015, 02:13:29 PM
^^😂 exactly.  There are just some things I cannot overlook that he posts.  The judgemental statements he makes from time to time just floor me.  I cannot tell if he is trolling or not but going off past experiences he legitimately feels that way.
Title: Re: A Birds Eye View of Celebration City.
Post by: shavethewhales on May 20, 2015, 03:02:58 PM
^Quit making hay. I know Laroy's comment came off a little ignorant, but it's all been said before and there are better ways of expressing that than ganging around like a bunch of school yard girls.

There is now a Branson mega thread for talking about miscellaneous branson ideas or issues, and I'll try to keep the celebration city talk in the CC developments thread (in the construction and rumors board).