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Silver Dollar City & Celebration City Discussion => Construction/Rumors => Topic started by: Copper on March 29, 2008, 06:43:24 PM
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What new coaster do you want to see for the 2009 season? Post what type you want, where should it be located and anything else you can think of...
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I think most of us want that rumored woodie. I would want it to be HUGE!!! I would want it to pack a huge punch (with as few head choppers as possible. I'm a big wuss when it comes to that). I would probably want it located back behind the Wilson's Farm Area so the area would be extended or over in the Grand Expo.
If we don't get a woodie my second choice would have to be an inverted coaster. I think those are a lot of fun. I love The Patriot at Worlds of Fun.
I was just thinkng, how bummed will we all be if we don't even get a coaster next year? I think we'd all be pretty upset.
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Ok, if you vote please list your reasons why!
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I'm torn. I don't know much about the options, but would say any would be welcome IF the theming is top-notch. The woodie would fit with the Grand Expo, but with creative engineering and execution the others could fit in, too. I don't think a hypercoaster is right for SDC, though. Inverted would certainly work for a bat theme next to the cave, but that's really too close to Batman, so it would be regarded as a copy, and as a copy it would have to top the original by far.
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I too, am torn on the issue.
The thing is that I want to see some more large-scale attractions come to the city, but I want the city to go back to more of the feel it had before the big rides. What I really want the city to focus on is bringing out more heritage and craftsmanship. With this new coaster, I want it to really be part of the park. I want it to be push a classic SDC theme that is accentuated by a new plethora of surrounding shops, crafts, and andyisms. You might be thinking "well hell, that's what TGS was", but no, TGS is great in that it has some great andyisms and a strong theme, but it's pretty much a big ride with a bunch of stalls plopped around it. This time around, I hope to see some games that are actually relavent to the theme, some actual shops that sell more than t-shirts, and maybe some new craftsmen, also relavent to theme.
Again, it sounds bitchy, but TGS and GE have never really felt like they belong with the rest of SDC. I'm sure they will when the areas mature and characterize, but as it is they are kinda wacky. This time around I hope they dig up something really SDCish, that will really accentuate the atmosphere of the park as a whole.
As far as the coaster type itself, any of the above options besides the hyper coaster would be great, though I personally would prefer a solid Intamin Pre-fab woodie.
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I actually think the Grand Exposition fits in great with the rest of the park. I do however think if it was in a different location it would look very very stupid. And TGS will grow and mature, as you said, into a great ride and area of the park.
I think we all agree on one thing-that SDC has slipped on some of its theming and heritage. The thing we tend to disagree on is how much they actually HAVE slipped up. I personally, don't think they have screwed up so bad. By reading your posts I am inferring that you think they have went down a totally wrong path. SDC still does the same things they used to do so I really don't understand your thinking on how they have screwed up so bad. I too agree that the stupid stalls around TGS are some of the dumbest things I have seen at SDC. They may be the dumbest.
The truth about all this is that, people today care more about the rides than they do the crafts. That is just the sick sad truth. The Herschend's have to keep in line with the times while still trying to uphold the same theme and spirit that they have already created. I think they are doing a magnificent job with it.
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^I don't think they've messed up in any way, I just wish they included more of SDC tradition in their new developments. I mean, if GE was added 10 years ago, I think it would have held a lot more neat smaller elements, like funky little shops and maybe a few 'exhibits' of some kind. There's nothing exactly bad about the way SDC is growing, I just wish they held back a little more to the old ways. Besides, SDC's main crowd pull is certainly not thrill seekers, at least not in a direct sense. For thrills, there are numerous other parks, but SDC has much higher prestige for a reason.
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WOOD!
I have no idea why a small unpainted woodie wasn't their first coaster. I think it should dive off the hill behind farm area. It could easily stay hidden from people within the park.
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All right I'm throwing my hat in the ring. I love coasters too. But I must agree that SDC has to be very careful about how they implement them. Thats why FITH was born so many years ago. Low but positive impact on theme as a whole. As nostalgic as I'd like to be, Living in te past is pointless. SDC grew on the personalitys of individuals many of whom are no longer with us. The generation that Townsend Godsey so eliquently documented in his book "These were the Last" are gone . The real Ozark citizans like Shad, Ken Holt, Rex Matzinbacher, Leslie Jones, et al, are from another time, that we can learn from but not duplicate. The craft festival used to draw 20,000 plus a day on weekends from as far away as Chicago. But it was uniuqe. Now there are craft festivals closer to home. And taste changes. Country crafts were big in the 70's. That crowd is gone. The decision to abandon much theme in the 90's alienated many long time sdc visiters. Would they come back? Perhaps, but turning back the clock now might prove counterproductive to what SDC is now. There are a lot of tough calls in this business. SDC has had its shares of bad calls, but more good call than most. I may not agree with all of there decisions, indeed I left becouse some of them made it impossable to stay, but overall, the Hershends and crew will do what needs doing and I for one trust them.
Me, I'd build the suspended version of the Ice House.
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The park used to host 20,000. I would hate being there. There have been many days in which we received word that there were 15,000 and we went shopping and then entered the park at 3PM. I guess this makes me wonder: why didn't the park move the entrance or do something to make room for the massive numbers of people who were to enter the park before they started building mega- rides?
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The Christmas season, that being November and December, sees the parks most heavily attended days. Most Fridays and Saturdays see anywhere from 18-22,000 people. The record was set in November of 2006 with attendance being close to 25,000.
If you can avoid the 18-22,000 people days do, they are frustrating for guests.
There is another entrance to the park that hasn’t been used in a long time. Next to the Red Golf Heritage Hall is Shad’s Cabin and a door marked employees only. That door is an entrance to SDC that has a few ticket booths and turnstiles. I always thought a themed entrance near the elephant ride in the Expo would be a great location. It could have a medium sized shop in the spirit of the Ozark Market Place, just incase you needed a last minute souvenir. This entrance could be for all of the Notch parking lots and any Branson/Campground shuttles. This would eliminate a lot of time standing in Notch waiting for a shuttle and the lines at the front gate would be reduced.
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There is another entrance to the park that hasn’t been used in a long time. Next to the Red Golf Heritage Hall is Shad’s Cabin and a door marked employees only. That door is an entrance to SDC that has a few ticket booths and turnstiles.
That entrance closed in the 80s, I think. Way back when they stopped allowing parking on Main St. (where the gazebo is now) they started using the entrance by Shad's cabin as the entrance to the park and using the train to get people to the park (they would disembark at the old depot which was to the left of the curly-q bridge). All this has been said before in the forums, but I'm pointing it out because I really don't see them using this entrance again any time soon. It would require some major changes to the park.
As for the coaster, I would love to see a woodie! Something Screamin' Eagle style would be a lot of fun and could be worked into the 1880s theme without much difficulty.
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They stopped using this entrance about four years ago when they started dividing the hospitality house during the Christmas Season. They set up stantions and make each side one way. They thought this would help out on traffic. The ticket booths in the back entrance still have 04’ or 05’ ticket prices up.
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They stopped using this entrance about four years ago when they started dividing the hospitality house during the Christmas Season. They set up stantions and make each side one way. They thought this would help out on traffic. The ticket booths in the back entrance still have 04’ or 05’ ticket prices up.
Thanks for the clarification, Copper. I had no idea they used that entrance this recently. I wish I had entered that way at some point. Do you know how they managed that (parking issues, etc.)?
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I'm proud to say I had the privilege of entering that direction a few years ago. We were actually directed to park in that employee lot off of Hwy 76, and we walked right up to the turnstiles. They were also bussing folks in from the Notch parking lots (Yes, it was crooowwded.). This was before the magnet strip season passes were established and we still had those folding passes (which by the way told us which days were predicted to be the most crowded, and no we didn't check the dates before we visited).
The best part of entering from that direction was the looks on people's faces when we walked in beside the waterboggen. It was as if we had enjoyed a privilege they didn't! We showed them!
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I guess I didn't think about the fact that if I had entered the park from the entrance by the Waterboggan SDC would have to be pretty crowded.
Still, just to say that I had entered the park through another entrance might make it worth it! 8)
They probably thought you were celebrities or knew the Herschend's, Dale! I'm guessing you milked it for all it was worth! :)
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Speaking of different entrances on Saturday we kind of sorta entered into the park from a different direction. We had to park in the Employee Parking Lot that is right behing the Grand Expo. I'm sure that this was credited to the road construction that is going on. It was actually really cool to see that side of the Grand Expo. I just hope the employees that usually parked in that spot found somewhere else to park.
Oh and the buses we got to ride to the entrance were A LOT nicer!
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I would like to see a Euro-fighter themed to Marvel Cave because it doesn't take up TOO much space, and brings an enjoyable ride. Also, a woodie would be nice, I mean who doesn't love a good woodie? They are very family friendly, but I can't imagine where they would put a large one. Maybe one the size of Evel Knievel.
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^Oh there's space for a large one, believe me, there's space for anything and more within SDC's land. If, or rather when, they spring for a wooden coaster, I really do hope it'll be a mid-sized type similar to EK though, as that really is the perfect size for a woodie. Anything larger just breaks down into a painful experience for most of the GP after a couple of years.
Imagine if they dug a big pit, or hollowed out a space in a gully, and just crammed a uber-tight woodie into it, like the Boardwalk Bullet... That's my fantasy for the park, but in reality I think we're in for a G-fighter next. The Herschends are just really into recycling what works - not that that's necessarily bad or anything. I'm just glad they customize everything to the individual park.
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^Thunderhead worked at Dollywood. I'm also glad everything is customized for each park. It'd suck if we had the exact same thing as Dollywood.
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^Oh there's space for a large one, believe me, there's space for anything and more within SDC's land. If, or rather when, they spring for a wooden coaster, I really do hope it'll be a mid-sized type similar to EK though, as that really is the perfect size for a woodie. Anything larger just breaks down into a painful experience for most of the GP after a couple of years.
Imagine if they dug a big pit, or hollowed out a space in a gully, and just crammed a uber-tight woodie into it, like the Boardwalk Bullet... That's my fantasy for the park, but in reality I think we're in for a G-fighter next. The Herschends are just really into recycling what works - not that that's necessarily bad or anything. I'm just glad they customize everything to the individual park.
Woodies can be pretty noisy, I can't imagine one appearing anywhere in midtown, it would have to be out there a ways. As long as it isn't a G-Fighter themed to Huck Finn lol
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Would the Forgotten Crafts area be large enough? Then Thunderhead could sit as the new centerpiece of a lumberjack area just as it led the way to the development of DW's lumberjack area. It would put the ride smack in the middle of the other two coasters though.
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^I just think that it's going to go out beyond the Giant Swing, and maybe be the centerpiece for a new area. I used to think it'd be going between the Expo and Echo Hollow, but not anymore. I think that's where they're moving the Skychase Balloons and/or Becky's Carousel.
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I visited Screamscape and they have an update from June 26 that distinctly refers to a "multi-attraction project for the 2009 season". Additionally, they said that there's a small rumor going around about a Gerstlauer coaster for 2009, and that it might be a new custom Spinning Coaster project. Throughout all of this, they acknowledge the Tom and Huck splash battle ride for next year. Does anyone know what's going on? Is there any truth to this, or is someone just blowing hot air? ???
If there is truth to this, where do you think this new coaster will go? I'm betting out beyond the Giant Swing. But if it is for next year, then maybe those markers out by the Expo aren't for the Skychase Balloons after all...
Here's a link to Screamscape. Scroll down to "New Coaster", and you might also scroll further to see "Tom Sawyer's Landing Project":
http://www.screamscape.com/html/silver_dollar_city.htm (http://www.screamscape.com/html/silver_dollar_city.htm)
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^They're called rumors; many of them started here ::). Lance reports it all, much of it with plenty of skepticism, or at least labeled clearly as rumor unless it has been confirmed by the park. A lot of the stuff on Screamscape's SDC page is from the months of speculation that this would be the year we would get a major coaster based on all the things we heard from the park. (I still think a major coaster was planned for this year, but was pushed back after the market dipped so much, the massive attendance drop is evidence of why they would be scared to go completely all out right now.)
Obviously there will be another coaster eventually, but it's just not happening next year, so don't get your hopes up too high.
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While we wait for an official announcement regarding next year's project, I've been pondering the new coaster SDC will hopefully get in 2010 or 2011. With the last two coasters being heavy on thrills (Wildfire and Powderkeg--I guess you could throw Buzzsaw Falls in there too) I hope they put in a woodie. Something similar to Worlds of Fun's Prowler (coming in '09) would make me very happy. No loops or anything, just hills on top of hills. If they do that they could really take advantage of the terrain and more easily stick with the park's theme when they theme it.
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I would like to see a woody in Wilson's Farm because it would be tucked away. I wonder about the railroad though. I also wonder how much they are planning to add to Wilson's Farm. A woody could fit with the farm theme and I don't want SDC to have another huge ride come to town.
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What would the theme be - runaway mule?
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left the barn doors open and they all got loose!
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Maybe some of Doc Harris' Wildfire got into his feed.
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i guess i came up with a flub.
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How 'bout "The Ozark Manure Spreader"?
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sounds good since this has officially entered the "crap" section.
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Hay hay!
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I would like to see 2 Major coasters:
1. A woodie built by Gravity Group
2. A B&M Flyer
Both of these would be so easy to theme. What sucks is the woodie would be better as Wildfire but oh-well. Build a massive out and back woodie with numerouse dips, dives, 90 degree banked turns, etc.. Second the flyer can go on the flying machine concept, I like the way the Vekoma restraints fit better and the fact you are laying down, but this following the flying achine theme would be awesome.
I think the woodie needs to be in a section where the petting zoo is, at least that is where I always heard the woodie would be if it were bult. I know they have to be careful about building, if you ever take the cave lamplight tour you will find that thunderation shut down part of the exisitng cave exploration.
I really think they need to get something done for ACE next year, ESPECIALLY since WOF who is co-hosting is getting a new woodie, not to mention the fact that I read an article where HFE promised more than enough coasers for the ACE members,
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I would really like to see our own version of the Voyage too, I just don't want them to have to deal with the maintainence like HW has had to. Maybe if they went with a pre-fab? Another huge coaster would really boost the park out of this funk. However, I'm pretty sure they're set on getting a G-fighter, which is kind of unfortunate in my view. I'm sure they're planning to spend upwards of $17 million, just like MM at DW, when they could be spending that on something that would look truly spectacular like the aforementioned beemers and woodies.
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I haven't seen any work on a new coaster, so I don't think that there's enough time to build one before next season. Everyone remembers how long it took them to build Buzzsaw or Wildfire. We had to watch all summer long as the areas were cleared and parts began to show up. Damn the anticipation! I'd really love to see a new wooden coaster though. I happened to look at a park map and it said a new ride was coming in 2010. I hope it's a coaster, but the spot it pointed to was pretty cramped.
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Welcome Barreloflaughs!
You might need to catch up a bit - try reading this thread: http://sdcfans.com/forums/index.php?topic=150.375
We're currently watching them build a splash battle type attraction, but it's currently been delayed until 2010 due to the financial crisis.