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Title: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 25, 2011, 07:46:23 PM
http://newsok.com/former-six-flags-execs-to-manage-frontier-city-white-water-bay/article/3535312#ixzz1C60opist

Looks like FC's old SF team is back in town again. Burke and Story have been busy the last couple of years building up another empire of theme and water parks. FC is their first dry park, but WWB makes their third water park so far. They've been busy expanding their two other water parks like crazy already, just like in the good old days.

I'm not terribly excited about this team - they're famous for building up parks with rides and attractions but not paying attention to anything else, resulting in the famous six flags stigma we've all referred to at some point. However, they're not in control of the capital ex. purse for FC or WWB - CNL is, and it doesn't look like they've budgeted for anything new at either park this year. Hopefully, Burke and Co. can get them to invest in some new rides at FC, because right now that's all the park needs. PARC did a great job cleaning up the place, now it just needs a couple of new headlining attractions.

I doubt we'll see any improvement in day to day operations though, which means more of the same teenage ride operators, terrible food, and overpriced everything. At least that's nothing new for FC.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: DeweyBald on January 26, 2011, 11:45:53 PM
I agree Shave...I got excited when I first saw the headlines in the paper, but after reading a few seconds I had the same thoughts.  At least they sometimes have pretty good concerts there.  I haven't been to WWB in YEARS.  Probably not since high school.  I only go to FC when the checkbook allows me to.  It's not near the bang for the buck as it used to be.  I'll keep my SDC season tickets!
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on January 27, 2011, 07:13:52 PM
have to see what/if any improvements they make....
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: okiebluegrass on January 28, 2011, 07:29:15 AM
This will be the first time in several years that I will not have a frontier city pass. Last year they gave them away with a single day admission
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on January 31, 2011, 06:59:41 PM
this posted today:

The new name for Story & Burke’s management group is, Premier Attractions Management, LLC. According to CNL, Premier will be taking over the management of not only Frontier City and White Water Bay, but also Splashtown in Houston.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 31, 2011, 08:53:13 PM
WOW.

I can't believe they're actually going back to the Premier name. Good grief, if that's a sign, we're in for another long stretch of disappointment.

Still though, they are building up almost all of their new properties, so hopefully FC will get some of that love. These guys were responsible for all of FC's major coasters before they pretty much moved on to bigger and better parks to spend lavishly on.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on January 31, 2011, 08:55:57 PM
 :o wait and see
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on March 01, 2011, 11:12:32 PM
http://www.newsok.com/story-burke-plan-to-restore-prominence-to-frontier-city-white-water/article/3544764?custom_click=headlines_widget

This sounds promising. They have lofty attendance goals and a year to work on improving the overall park experience, so I could see them splurging on something big for the 2012 season. Burke and Story could always be counted on to add coasters to boost attendance back in the old days, and FC could use that now.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on March 02, 2011, 08:01:27 AM
thats sounds very promising for the park..  have to keep an eye on their progress.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: okiebluegrass on May 12, 2011, 09:16:50 AM
Have any of y'all been out to FC so far this year. Looks like they have a rainmaker show (at least according to their web site) I may have to go at least once just to check it out.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Junior on May 12, 2011, 09:42:00 AM
Called "Doc Snookers Medicine Man Show." Yup, sounds a whole lot like the ole SDC Rainmaker to me! ;)
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on May 12, 2011, 08:03:19 PM
well if you go, make sure we get a trip review!! If it is worthwhile I would make a weekend trip to visit FC.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: marolinesdad on June 13, 2011, 06:18:01 PM
Just an FYI...  Frontier City has been cleaned u pby the bew/old management.  They have fixed all of the rides that did not run last year and have even brought back the saloon show.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on June 22, 2011, 10:04:28 PM
Anyone been to FC this year? I'm curious as to how the "new" management is doing in more detail. Good to hear the saloon show is back. I know hangman is down again though, and I think the rotor is completely shut down at this point. I haven't heard of any changes that that Burke and Story's group actually made. PARC did so much to fix up the park before them, I can't imagine what else they could do besides putting new rides in, which is sorely needed.

I fully expect FC to announce a big new ride addition of some sort this year. The park is in as good a shape as we can hope for at this point I think, the only path to increased revenue at this point is by offering something new to ride at last. A splash battle would really fit the place, but a new thrill ride would help them with their main demographic. I won't be surprised though if Burke and Story go all out and get a Euro-fighter or S&S El Loco to kick start the park though.

I don't think I'll make the effort to visit this year. Other than seeing what's changed from last year, there's really nothing I want to do at the park. If they get something notable I'll definitely be there next year.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: okiebluegrass on June 23, 2011, 12:36:40 PM
Went there for a church function. I looked about like it has in previous years. Didn't see any of the shows. Heard on the radio this AM that it is now $20 after 5 on weekdays.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on August 22, 2011, 07:21:59 PM
Man, I've got to say, judging by the photos FC posts to its Facebook, the park is having a banner year this year with all their concerts. I've never seen so many people at the park in some of those photos, and they've had a number of highly-attended events this year. The Halloween season is right around the corner too, and that's always their most attended time of the year.

It's definitely showing that there are people in this town willing to come out to the park if there actually is something to draw them. I'm hoping this prods Burke and Co. into putting some major investments into the park for next year.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: okiebluegrass on August 23, 2011, 05:15:37 PM
They could do so much in developing the theme better. I personally would bring in some street performers and local musicians (Ok, admittedly, I'd love either one of these gigs)
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on October 27, 2011, 05:18:40 PM
Sounds like some things could be stirring at Frontier City. People have reported markers around the back of the park, though the park says they are just for general surveying, and the go-kart track has been boarded up again.

The go-kart track is a perfect place for a new ride, and as I said before, I can certainly see the new management wanting to put in a new ride for next year to keep their momentum going. The go kart area is the perfect size for a splash battle, or really any kind of big flat. I could see a Frisbee or top scan style ride doing wonders for the park as well. Of course, a new coaster would be the best, and if the markers mean anything, they apparently extend all the way from the go karts to the other side of the Wildcat...

And again, I'm still hearing lots of good news about the park's crowd levels this year. Lots of people have actually been complaining about lines! Seems like the Halloween season has been crazy good for them, save for one weekend that they were rained out and shut down early.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on October 27, 2011, 06:28:03 PM
well, good for them!  sounds like a positive year, and a positive start for next year IF indeed they justify the expense for a new attraction..
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on November 10, 2011, 02:57:22 PM
I drove by Frontier City yesterday and tried my best to see any activity that might be developing. I did see some survey markers (stakes) and utility flagging around the parking lot of the offices. Unfortunately, I don't think this really has anything to do with the park, but looked to be possible roadway improvements for Coltrane Road. The stakes extended from where Coltrane Road intersects with the I-35 service roadway back to the first drop of Wildcat (where they stopped).

I really couldn't see anything in the park, but the go cart track still looks intact with the cars lined up in the station.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on December 06, 2011, 10:47:50 AM
Frontier city just posted this on their facebook: http://www.facebook.com/frontiercitythemepark

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The holidays are just around the corner and a little elf just told me that Frontier City is getting something big under the tree for next year. Hmm.... wonder what it could be?????

We'll have something new to watch in this region after all! I'll take anything they've got planned, but I fully expect we'll get a thrill ride of some sort, if not some sort of water attraction.

They'll need to replace their decrepit log flume with a new water attraction at some point, but I doubt they can get it done this offseason. A splash battle to replace the go karts would be nice too, but they just finally got the go karts running again last season.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on December 08, 2011, 03:00:21 PM
Drove by Frontier City today. I couldn't find any evidence of work occurring inside the park (go cart, or maintenance area) nor at the proposed parking lot expansion.

But I did find a Standard Testing bore truck in the employee lot by the offices. The truck was up close to the fence and "in line" with the lift hill for the Wildcat. Not sure what it would mean, but it was very close to the fence line to the park and right next to the coaster....do you think they might be doing a re-design of the Wildcat?

What we do know now, is they are testing the soil to determine its bearing capacity, and we know the location of those tests.

I have attached a photo for you to see what I'm talking about, also in that photo you will see a wooden stake that is close to the roadway. I'm still not sure why that would be there unless there was going to be some kind of road modification.

(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb279/jaycobb71/011.jpg)
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on December 08, 2011, 04:08:35 PM
Awesome! Thanks so much for the photo and the details about the Standard Testing truck.

It's times like this I really wish I were farther along in my civil eng. curriculum to know the full implications of what they're doing, but it certainly seems like they're about to do some construction in this area.

It just seems like a weird area to build in, unless this is going to be a large tracked attraction. The Wildcat infield and the area around it is one of the last open pieces of ground in the park, but it seems like it would be hard to get to from the park and there are a few other places to put an attraction before using it. I personally expected them to knock down the old rotor and put in a new flat there. It's been rotting away for the past couple of seasons. There's also open area just north of the old Nightmare Mine building, and they could build on their current maintenance area (they have plenty of room to move maintenance across the street), and on the go kart tracks.

The fact that they're marking up the parking lot actually does make me think we *could* be looking at a coaster here. Remember, this is Burke and Story we're talking about now - people famous for building up parks with coaster additions. It's definitely a little late in the season, but if it is a coaster it's bound to be something fairly small and compact. My money would be on a basic euro-fighter 420 model - they can be set up in just a few days once the groundwork is in place.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on December 12, 2011, 02:07:09 PM
FC's facebook says they will begin teasing soon.

Another possibility is the big fun model from GCII. It was rumored that they had already sold one for this year, and it would fit the land easily. The only thing is that it would be weird to have two "family" sized wooden coasters right next to each other in a park with as many coasters as FC has. I would think they would want to diversify a little more, but perhaps this could end up being a replacement for the Wildcat so they can build a bigger coaster there in the future.

The only problem with the big fun is that it is only designed for one train and has a relatively low pph, but that's no different than they park's current wooden coaster. However, they do get some pretty big lines occasionally.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on December 17, 2011, 08:38:29 PM
Another update:

I drove by the park today to see if anything major had started moving. Nothing noticeable was happening, but I did see a huge number of markers in the parking lot and along both Coltrane and the road in front of the park. There were orange utility flags, stakes with orange and pink tape, stakes with white tape that said "locate" on them right next to the road, orange spray paint on the lot itself, and probably a few other kinds of flags around the main utility area. There were also some strange looking rods with something yellow on them sticking up in rows outside of the fence surrounding wildcat on Coltrane road.

I didn't see any kind of pattern to the flags at all. Honestly, with the land shaped the way it is I think they would have needed to start earth work before now if they were putting in an out-of-the box coaster like a G-fighter model or a GCII big fun. Some people were saying it could be some sort of water attraction. That would make sense with the construction progress as it would not need to open until closer to the summer. Plus the park could really use a good water attraction.

Hopefully they'll break ground soon. I might stop by again on my way through in mid January if I hear that construction has started.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on December 31, 2011, 11:23:40 PM
Hmm, two weeks later and just about into the new year and no hints about what Frontier City may or may not have gotten for Christmas have shown up. In fact, the park is suddenly quite about the whole thing, which makes me wonder if there's been a problem with the ride such as a bad soil test or a delay in shipping or manufacturing.

I'm going to drive by in a couple of weeks on my way through the area. I hope there's some serious construction happening on whatever it is by then, otherwise they may be getting to the point where it becomes 2013's new addition instead.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 03, 2012, 05:16:19 PM
Another update for those of you still watching: FC's facebook says to check out the Wildcat for a clue as to what's happening in 2012. Does this mean they've hung a banner, or are they actually working on the coaster itself? I could see them doing a major refurbishment of the ride, it could sure use it. Hopefully they'll actually adjust the course some to make it a little more fulfilling. The return portion has always been just completely messed up due to the way they had to adjust it to fit the park.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 15, 2012, 12:42:50 AM
Might as well update here in case anyone's watching this park. I drove by again today. There's a construction dumpster on site now, but nothing else. Place is still marked up for a project, but NOTHING is going on. I looked pretty hard to see if I could spot something being set up behind the fence, or new ride pieces, or anything, but it looks the same as it always does. I'm starting to doubt they'll add anything more than a few misters in time for the 2012 season at this point. Their teaser sign is gone from the wildcat, I don't know if that means anything.

I got some photos this time: http://imgur.com/a/eh7xA
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Junior on January 15, 2012, 01:34:46 AM
Thanks for the photos, and please keep us posted.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on January 15, 2012, 04:42:00 PM
Looks kinda naked out there.. thanks for the shots shave.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 22, 2012, 01:15:42 AM
Frontier City 411, a fan group for this park, says there will be an announcement tomorrow at 2pm that we won't want to miss. I assume that means they'll announce the new ride.

Since you guys know how much I love a good bit of speculation, I've put together one lass speculative guess for what they could be planning:
A 20-passenger flume ride from Hopkins/Skytrans Manufacturing with a basic up and down oval layout. One of these rides was just installed at a park in Alabama last year. These rides are cheap, can be set up fairly quickly, I assume they are being marketed fairly heavily due to the new Skytrans partnership, and of course: they make a huge splash. This speculation is highly optimistic and is based entirely on the fact that they put splash imagery in their teasers, and on what I see on the market right now that would give them a splash to tease about. This ride would fit right into the park, both physically due to it's small footprint and in a crowd pleasing sense due to the high number of people that can be entertained and cooled off at once. This is one of those rides that makes a huge splash that gets both riders and nearby spectators soaked. After looking at the park's website and seeing that they are literally marketing "something new for 2012" I can't see how they wouldn't be planning a new ride, unless they are really, really bad at marketing. And yes, this is something that can be built in a few months. Alabama's began construction in January I think and was open in May.

I don't know though, this is Frontier City after all and I'm so used to disappointment it hurts, but there are new owners now and the more I think about this the more it makes so much damn good sense for them. I just hope it's a ride of some sort.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 22, 2012, 06:46:02 PM
So the announcement was actually a leak by FC411 that stated that the coming attraction will be a water fortress style play structure with attached pools of some sort. Basically a mini water park. The old HR/old Six Flags HW building will be converted to changing rooms.

I'm a tiny bit disappointed that its not going to be a ride, but I'm glad the park is making another investment and I do believe this will really help the park attract more young families, especially during the really hot season. The heat of last summer was really bad for all the dry parks, so having something cool to promote will help out a lot.

This probably won't get me in their gates next season, but the wandering thrill seekers really shouldn't be their concern anyway. Small parks need to focus on families above all else these days to survive. Adding thrills will just attract teens, and they are hardly worth the ticket price to let in.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on January 22, 2012, 08:13:57 PM
Is there concept art around for that yet? Possible mock ups?? I wont go but it sounds interesting!
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on January 23, 2012, 08:00:03 AM
I'm not a huge fan of this attraction either, but Six Flags Over Georgia did this same thing a couple years ago, and I've read reports that is it always packed. So maybe this will turn out well for Frontier City too.

I would be really happy if they would just make Wildcat a decent ride like it was when if first opened (before they neutered the ride after the turn around). Get the tunnels back, and the double down into the splash zone - right now it's just a bunch of flat track that does nothing.

Maybe next year will be the year for some great new coasters for the area (SDC, FC, WoF, SFOT, and SFStL).

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on February 15, 2012, 03:25:38 PM
Today Frontier City announced the details of the new water play area:

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Frontier City is proud to announce new to the park in 2012, Wild West Water Works, Oklahoma's largest water activity structure! This exciting new water feature is over 5 stories tall with over 198 ways to get wet, eight colorful slides, a 1,000 gallon tipping bucket, spacious lounging deck, changing facilities, showers and more, creating the ultimate water oasis for guests of all ages.
See more here: http://www.facebook.com/frontiercitythemepark

Sounds like it will be a lot bigger than I was expecting. This is very much like SFOG's addition a few years ago that Cowboy mentioned. They're spending about $1.3 million on it, which is a pretty big investment for FC.

This is a very wise addition for FC. They need to keep building up a reliable base of young families for customers and get away from just catering to crowds of unruly teens. It sounds like it has been receiving a good reception from the core audience so far.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on February 15, 2012, 03:27:42 PM
The water fortress was announced by the park today. Here is the artist rendering.

(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb279/jaycobb71/FrontierCity2012.jpg)
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Junior on February 15, 2012, 03:37:24 PM
Wow, this is big news for FC! The concept art is amazing, but, in reality, I hope the traffic on the adjoining highway is a bit heavier than depicted in the artwork, or FC will be blowing their budget and "flushing it" for no more cars than are depicted in the drawing! (HA!)  ;)
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on February 20, 2012, 07:05:37 PM
2012 - Wild West Water Works - (2/20/12) Frontier City has confirmed the addition of Wild West Water Works for 2012, the largest water fortress in Oklahoma standing 5 stories tall with 8 slides and a 1000 gallon giant water bucket at the top. Concept artwork was posted to the official park site.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: MissinTheGreenTrams on February 21, 2012, 08:00:10 AM
I dont see myself cruising over to FC for this. Its not original. I can go to WW or Grand Country Inn for something like this.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: okiebluegrass on March 05, 2012, 03:02:44 PM
If only I-44 was like that! At least it's better than the I-40 / I-44 interchange but I digress...
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on May 18, 2012, 02:11:42 PM
Sounds like the park has been fairly busy this season already. People are actually complaining about the lines - that's a huge step for FC! They've got more good concerts planned, which is a forefront of their business now, and a number of people are pretty excited about the water play structure that opens next weekend.

I say all this because it seems like the park is really growing in popularity and being well-managed for once. That means big things are ahead of us. I think most of the local enthusiasts underestimate the importance of this year's addition. It's a huge addition for them, it shows they're ready to really invest in the park, it's going to really increase their customer base, and I definitely think the success of this attraction will lead them to add another major new attraction for the other part of their base: younger thrill seekers.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: WolfHunter on November 21, 2012, 09:56:24 PM
That drawing looks familiar...
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on November 21, 2012, 10:46:55 PM
The rumors are pointing to WWB getting a new attraction next summer rather than FC.

In case anyone hasn't heard, Eruption has left the park, leaving a fairly sizable space for major attraction. I expect to see them throw in something thrill-oriented there by 2014.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on December 09, 2012, 11:46:57 PM
WWB is getting a very cool slide addition next year: http://www.screamscape.com/html/whitewaterok_0.htm

Looks like another good addition for the OKC parks. I expect it will revive a lot of interest in WWB. This is exactly the kind of unique, major attraction they need to get noticed again.

Here's hoping they do the same for FC in 2014.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on January 11, 2013, 08:47:56 AM
I did a drive by of the park yesterday and had just a few observations:

1. Wild Kitty is dismantled and is stacked in the parking lot. I couldn't tell if they were rehabilitating the whole ride, or replacing it with a similar ride. Anyhow, something is going on there.

2. Eruption is still standing, no work has started in that area.

3. The Silver Bullet train is sitting unprotected in the grass employee parking lot. Not sure if this means they have a new train on the way, or if it is just there for winter storage.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okie Hillbilly on January 14, 2013, 08:54:16 PM
I think I remember Wild Kitty. Was it the wooden coaster? I rode it at a company function there 12 or so years back. My company (OGE)sponsored 2 different weekends to go to FC on them. It was fun.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on January 14, 2013, 10:34:57 PM
I think I remember Wild Kitty. Was it the wooden coaster? I rode it at a company function there 12 or so years back. My company (OGE)sponsored 2 different weekends to go to FC on them. It was fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJNFFyBMANU
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 15, 2013, 12:13:50 PM
I would assume that means Wild Kitty is being replaced. I thought I heard a rumor about that happening some time ago anyway. Lots of memories on those little Herschell/Schiff/Molina & Sons coasters, but it's time for parks to get rid of them and bring in the modern Zamperla/Miller coasters. I remember seeing plenty of young kids get their heads bashed into the sides of the cars on the old Molina & Sons coaster that was at SDC because it was so ridiculously jerky in it's later years.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on January 15, 2013, 12:50:01 PM
I would assume that means Wild Kitty is being replaced. I thought I heard a rumor about that happening some time ago anyway. Lots of memories on those little Herschell/Schiff/Molina & Sons coasters, but it's time for parks to get rid of them and bring in the modern Zamperla/Miller coasters. I remember seeing plenty of young kids get their heads bashed into the sides of the cars on the old Molina & Sons coaster that was at SDC because it was so ridiculously jerky in it's later years.

The new kiddie coaster in GE is just fine for coaster introductions for the kids.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okie Hillbilly on January 18, 2013, 09:37:18 PM
Sorry. My bad. It was Wildcat I remember riding, not Wild Kitty. Senior moment, brain fart, You understand. We may have to check out FC this summer. Sounds like its improving!
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on January 21, 2013, 06:09:28 PM
REad this today:

 Screamscape sources tell us that the Cactus Coaster (Allan Herschell Little Dipper coaster) from Elitch Gardens will be brought to Frontier City as a replacement for the park’s existing Wild Kitty coaster (also an Allan Herschell Little Dipper). The slightly older Wild Kitty coaster was apparently in need of some costly track work or replacement, so instead the park will replace it with the nearly identical Cactus Coaster, reusing the same station and keeping the existing Wild Kitty name. Most guests will probably never know that it was swapped out in the off season.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: TinTypeGuy on March 17, 2013, 04:17:55 PM
Whereas Old Time Photos are not a major thrill or attraction, we just wanted to let everyone know that Ashley Nostalgia (The Old Time Photo and Costume Company that does the TinType photos at Silver Dollar City) will be operating Matthew Brady's Old Time Photography at Frontier City this season.  Also, Ashley Nostalgia will be doing the Souvenir ride photos for Wildcat and Steel Lasso.  In addition, we also plan on having a front gate photo set up up at Frontier City!
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: TinTypeGuy on March 23, 2013, 02:32:01 AM
I have been out at Frontier City the past two days setting up our new old time photo studio and Ride Photos and just wanted to say the park is looking great!  I will have a couple of photos for you guys here in a day or so, once they are downloaded, but here are just a couple that I took with my phone.  One of them was taken while standing on Wildcat testing the ride photo system and the other is of our 1920s Roaring twenties set still undergoing so updates and changes. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Junior on March 23, 2013, 07:17:15 PM
TinTypeGuy: Glad to have your input and photos. Thanks so much. How many parks do you service yourself? Can you give us some photos of the places you go on business?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: TinTypeGuy on March 25, 2013, 11:35:19 AM
Junior, I would be glad to share photos as I visit the parks. Currently my four major parks are Dollywood, Hershey Park, Silver Dollar City, and Frontier City. I also have a couple Renaissance Festivals and Santa operations but I will leave those out. It's a busy time of year with all the parks getting ready and some already open!
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on April 23, 2014, 08:55:55 AM
Frontier City is up to something........they are throwing hints out on Facebook.

So far we know:
1. They are building something new
2. It arrived on April 22, 2014
3. It holds 16 passengers
4. it will be open before Memorial Day Weekend
5. It's brand new...still has the new car smell


Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on April 23, 2014, 09:33:48 AM
Hmm interesting... I'm not sure anything major could be setup in just a few weeks, but I wasn't even expecting a new ride for this year so I'm excited for it. I just hope it doesn't take up too much valuable real estate if it's not going to be a major attraction. There's only a couple places left in the park where they could stuff a marquee attraction, and they really need to add one soon.

Facebook's stupid new settings resulted in me not seeing these photos until now (they're trying to force page owners to pay for "boosts"). Thanks for pointing it out.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on April 23, 2014, 04:34:59 PM
Here's today's hint: A new ride is flying into the park which required Frontier City to move a road.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on April 28, 2014, 10:01:02 PM
In case anyone didn't see the facebook posting today, the new ride is a set of flyers. Not a bad addition, especially since we weren't expecting anything. This is in addition to yet another round of maintenance and re-hab throughout the park. It's enough to convince me to get out there again sometime this year to check it out.

One marquee, re-rideable attraction and this park will be solid. I wish they would tear out the wildcat and replace it with a GCII.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on April 29, 2014, 03:48:36 PM
In case anyone didn't see the facebook posting today, the new ride is a set of flyers. Not a bad addition, especially since we weren't expecting anything. This is in addition to yet another round of maintenance and re-hab throughout the park. It's enough to convince me to get out there again sometime this year to check it out.

One marquee, re-rideable attraction and this park will be solid. I wish they would tear out the wildcat and replace it with a GCII.

So agree with the GCI comment considering the work they are doing with smaller parks like Fun Spot in Orlando and the planned coaster at Panama City Beach.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on April 30, 2014, 01:31:15 PM
In case anyone didn't see the facebook posting today, the new ride is a set of flyers. Not a bad addition, especially since we weren't expecting anything. This is in addition to yet another round of maintenance and re-hab throughout the park. It's enough to convince me to get out there again sometime this year to check it out.

One marquee, re-rideable attraction and this park will be solid. I wish they would tear out the wildcat and replace it with a GCII.

So agree with the GCI comment considering the work they are doing with smaller parks like Fun Spot in Orlando and the planned coaster at Panama City Beach.

I would love to see GCII work on the Wildcat to actually make it a fun coaster, it used to have a nice return trip with tunnels and double ups and downs......but was neutered horribly sometime in late 90's. Make this into a fun "family" ride.

Then I too would love to see a new GCII coaster (like American Thunder) be built where the go carts, maintenance, and sand volley ball pits are located.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on May 13, 2014, 03:43:21 PM
Here's a story regarding Chance rides, but most of the video of the rides are from rides located in Frontier City. This is a pretty cool story and video of the Company.

http://www.thisbuiltamerica.com/kansas#22

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on June 06, 2014, 05:51:24 PM
Frontier City just announced that the old Terrible Twister ride, a classic rotor that has been SBNO for years, has reopened under the name 'The Tumbleweed'. Another awesome step in the right direction for the park, that's like 2 new rides for this year. Up until now I was thinking they were just going to keep the rotor around until they were able to put a new ride in that spot. Unfortunately, that's one less good location for a new major ride, but this is a classic so I'm happy anyway.

Also: I noticed the new flyers are adorned with weird parrot images. They look a little cheap and out of place, IMO, but since this seems to have been a last-minute deal to purchase this ride and get it in the park, it'll work for now. Hopefully they come back in and update those graphics soon. Wouldn't cost much, and would make their newest ride look a whole lot better.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on June 06, 2014, 11:20:50 PM
Frontier City just announced that the old Terrible Twister ride, a classic rotor that has been SBNO for years, has reopened under the name 'The Tumbleweed'. Another awesome step in the right direction for the park, that's like 2 new rides for this year. Up until now I was thinking they were just going to keep the rotor around until they were able to put a new ride in that spot. Unfortunately, that's one less good location for a new major ride, but this is a classic so I'm happy anyway.

Also: I noticed the new flyers are adorned with weird parrot images. They look a little cheap and out of place, IMO, but since this seems to have been a last-minute deal to purchase this ride and get it in the park, it'll work for now. Hopefully they come back in and update those graphics soon. Wouldn't cost much, and would make their newest ride look a whole lot better.

My Mom will be in town next Fri. Seriously considering a day trip next Fri to OKC if the weather is good. Spending about 4 hrs at Frontier City is a serious possibility especially with the water play structure, then hitting the Memorial and a place to eat at Bricktown. It will be my kids first trip to Frontier City if it gets pulled, the Family Invert is right up their alley.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on October 21, 2014, 09:53:48 PM
CNL will finally be liquidating all of their properties over the next year. It looks like Premier will almost surely end up with Frontier City, which will be tremendous for the place. They've done such a good job with it, and the park has come so far in the last few years. All they need to really revitalize the place is to get some serious capital for a new ride. Unfortunately that won't be happening while CNL still owns it, and who knows if Premier would want to spend big again to quickly after buying the place out.

Hopefully they get something new for 2015, but it doesn't look likely at the moment. Maybe they can pick up another flat on the cheap.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Hollwood on October 22, 2014, 06:34:37 AM
Let's not forget about the other CNL properties... Magic Springs/Crystal Falls, Elitch Gatdens, and Darien Lake... Could be a big move for HFE...
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on October 22, 2014, 07:12:15 AM
CNL will finally be liquidating all of their properties over the next year. It looks like Premier will almost surely end up with Frontier City, which will be tremendous for the place. They've done such a good job with it, and the park has come so far in the last few years. All they need to really revitalize the place is to get some serious capital for a new ride. Unfortunately that won't be happening while CNL still owns it, and who knows if Premier would want to spend big again to quickly after buying the place out.

Hopefully they get something new for 2015, but it doesn't look likely at the moment. Maybe they can pick up another flat on the cheap.

CNL saved these parks. For the most part, they have improved them from when they got them especjally the two Herschend managed. Not sure what happened with Elitch there though. I'm holding out hope  Magic Springs ends up in good hands. I really wish Dan Koch would snap it up. Hot Springs has such great potential but whoever owns it really needs to think about a Great Wolf Lodge like addition to benefit from the racing season as well. You'd be surprized at the amount of families that hit Hot Springs and Oaklawn on the weekends in Feb, March and April.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on November 03, 2014, 01:20:44 PM
Frontier City's facebook page has a link to a guest survey that includes a portion where they gauge the general wants of new attractions. A little late for them to be deciding attractions for the 2015 season, but it's something.

I'm kind of thinking they'll go back to Larson soon. Larson is a choice company for small parks wanting fairly large new attractions for cheap. The ring of fire rides are getting popular again with all the SF purchases, but they are also known for their drop towers.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on November 03, 2014, 03:18:03 PM
If Frontier City would just put Wildcat back to the layout it had when it opened, that would be a major plus for the park. The third hill it had a double up and the return trip had tunnels and double down heading into the "splash" effect. I can't remember the year, but the ride had developed quite a bit of wash boarding so they re-tracked the ride and removed the double up, as well as flattened out the return run.....and changed the double down into a brake run.

I haven't been to the park since before installation of Steel Lasso....so things might have improved quite a bit since that time. I almost made a trip this year based on the improvements I had seen posted by the park, but my kids would rather make the 3.5 hour drive to SDC instead.

Maybe next year we'll make it to the park, but to make it a no brainer for me I'd really like to see them someday construct a new GCI, or even a GG junior coaster, or if they can afford one of those new Chance Hyper GT-X coasters that would even be better.

But before a new coaster, I bet they spend money on a new concert venue, drop ride, or expansion to Wild Water Works.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on November 03, 2014, 04:59:48 PM
If Frontier City would just put Wildcat back to the layout it had when it opened, that would be a major plus for the park. The third hill it had a double up and the return trip had tunnels and double down heading into the "splash" effect. I can't remember the year, but the ride had developed quite a bit of wash boarding so they re-tracked the ride and removed the double up, as well as flattened out the return run.....and changed the double down into a brake run.

I haven't been to the park since before installation of Steel Lasso....so things might have improved quite a bit since that time. I almost made a trip this year based on the improvements I had seen posted by the park, but my kids would rather make the 3.5 hour drive to SDC instead.

Maybe next year we'll make it to the park, but to make it a no brainer for me I'd really like to see them someday construct a new GCI, or even a GG junior coaster, or if they can afford one of those new Chance Hyper GT-X coasters that would even be better.

But before a new coaster, I bet they spend money on a new concert venue, drop ride, or expansion to Wild Water Works.

Jay

Frontier's sister park is Magic Springs and it's summer concert series is a big draw  with a mix of Christian Contemporary, R&B, 80's and 90s rock nostalgia acts,  teenie pop, and country.

Isn't the water park in OKC a Premiere holding and they just manage Frontier for CNL Lifestyles. Doesn't a further increase in the waterpark type of thing take away from the waterpark. Robbing Peter to pay Paul?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: okiebluegrass on January 30, 2015, 01:13:56 PM
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Isn't the water park in OKC a Premiere holding and they just manage Frontier for CNL Lifestyles. Doesn't a further increase in the waterpark type of thing take away from the waterpark. Robbing Peter to pay Paul?

It is owned and or run by the same people here in OKC. They sell the double park season pass just like SDC/White Water. A few years ago I went to Frontier City, and they were selling a season pass (to FC only) for the price of a single days admission.

I guess I am just spoiled because the theming at SDC is so much better than what FC has. I always felt they could do so much more with it.

The water park is "White Water Bay" which was owned by HFEC for a while after it first opened up.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on February 02, 2015, 07:50:24 AM
Screamscape reports a rumor that someone buying passes was told that a new ride is indeed on the way. A Larson Superloop is the obvious go-to assumption, but at this point I hope not. Seems like half the parks in America suddenly decided to buy one this season, and they aren't all that particularly great. They're not the worst thing though, and any new ride will be a welcome addition for FC.

Elitch is apparently getting rid of their top spin though, I wonder if that could make a move to FC. They are a maintenance nightmare, but they're also really high-profile rides that look like a lot of fun. I've actually never been able to ride one because each time I've been near one it's been shut down.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on February 02, 2015, 08:49:52 PM
The Mindbender (Inverter) is being removed.  Makes sense that a Super Loop should go in its place
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on February 02, 2015, 11:10:29 PM
Ah, that's too bad. I knew the Mindbender was going to be replaced soon, and one ride on it was enough for me, but those Chance Inverters seemed like such cool rides. If they could only get a comfier restraint... The one at Alton Towers was a lot of fun, back when I was smaller and fit in the restraints better.

I really think my only real beef with Super Loops right now is that at this point they're just so unoriginal. I don't think we've ever seen so many parks pick up the same ride in the same year, especially a ride that's mostly known for being a cheap carnival staple. Larson must be onto something with their marketing.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Hollwood on February 03, 2015, 06:14:25 AM
Cheap, simple, eye catching, small footprint. That is all you need to sell your new ride in bulk. This is exactly why Vekoma has sold 50 boomerangs and this is exactly why a Larson sooner loop will become the next ride that is in every other park.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on February 13, 2015, 06:29:11 PM
FC has started some teasers on facebook. This is the first I can ever remember them doing teasers, which is cool. They're pretty much coming out and saying it'll be a super loop though.

While it's not really appealing to me, I'm actually pretty excited they're getting a new true thrill ride for the first time in ages. I'm sure it will give them a notable bump and help encourage more investment to follow.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on February 17, 2015, 12:00:55 PM
Frontier City is Definitely teasing a new ride for next year. I'm not completely sold on it being a super loop though...just because it looks like it is going to go in between the Time Warp (Chance Inverter) and the Prairie Schooner (Swinging Ship) and the height also looks a lot taller than a super loop.......but it's a picture and you can mess with camera angles, so who knows.

They just said it's going to be cOOl........so the OO might mean lOOps. I wish they would give us a decent drop tower, that is what the park is really missing since they removed the two they had before.

The photo is from Frontier City's Facebook Page.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on February 17, 2015, 12:56:20 PM
The camera is on the ground, so that's probably the right height for a super loop. I'd also like to see a drop tower return to the park, and I'm sure one will eventually, but everything here still seems to be pointing towards a super loop. It looks like they'll be taking out most of that games area, which is a big improvement in itself.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on February 17, 2015, 01:54:54 PM
Yep.......super loop it is........here is today's clue. "Thanks for the hoop help, Elitch Gardens"

Jay

(Photo from Frontier City Facebook)
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on February 18, 2015, 07:45:39 PM
Official announcement made today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQqbUzzfKhI&feature=youtu.be

Basically they copied the name and style over from Darien Lake. Seems pretty lazy to do that in a park that is overtly western themed. I know this isn't a true "theme" park, but come on...

Oh well, it's definitely another good step in the right direction for this park. I'm really looking forward to seeing how much attendance it drives.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on February 18, 2015, 09:20:34 PM
They usually at least theme the name...and it wouldn't be that difficult.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on May 06, 2015, 09:06:09 AM
The main part of the ride was constructed in a single day......not sure how much other construction they have left, but I'm guessing they will have it open by Memorial Day.

Picture from Frontier City Facebook

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on May 06, 2015, 10:13:40 PM
It's cool that they got Thunder colors. I guess that's why they didn't use the "Rolling Thunder" trademark that they already have - the use of Thunder + those colors could probably have been enough to set a lawyer off. Would have been nice though. Still hate the Brain Drain name.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on August 03, 2015, 07:32:04 PM
Took part of the family to Frontier City for the first time in forever. I really think it might have been 9 years ago since my last visit. The park really hasn't added too much (brain drain, steel lasso, winged warrior, quick draw, and wild west water works) and lost a few things (mindbender, swings, hangman, nightmare, sling shot, time warp).

One thing I did notice this time around, that was different from our last visit, is only one ride wasn't operational - everything else was working great. Eveything was looking great too! Clean, landscape looked good, buildings looked good, employees were nice, the park is definately better than 9 years ago.

What made it even more amazing to me, was the park was able to maintain a great atmosphere despite being outrageously crowded. Now if you don't know who R5 is, just know they are the new rage of all the young girls in America.....and all the families and parents of these girls were in the park today (us included) to see the free R5 concert.

To give you an idea on how crowded it was, the asphalt parking lot was completely full, as was the old RV park, and the big empty grass lot south of the park, and all the vacant lots to the north of the park, etc. If you could fit a car somewhere, it was filled. But inspite of the crowd, the lines moved, you were served at the resturants, and the place was clean.

Anyhow, if this park can bring crowds like this in each weekend, then invest in a new bigger ticket attraction (shot tower, coaster, etc.) they could really become a nice little park. Seems like they might finally have the right management group running the park.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on August 03, 2015, 08:00:04 PM
I hope that's all true.  I'd like to see something that would draw more whole families to the park and not just teens.  They do a pretty good job with corporate picnics, but that's probably the biggest draw for families.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on August 03, 2015, 08:34:37 PM
Here is a Facebook picture of about 1/2 the crowd on Saturday. I had told my daughter that when the concert started the ride lines would die down.....well, I lied, they were just as long even with this kind of crowd in the concert area.

https://www.facebook.com/frontiercitythemepark/photos/a.10152026392464907.1073741831.62458794906/10153515034974907/?type=1&theater

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on August 03, 2015, 10:35:09 PM
Frontier City has put in a HUGE amount of work and investment into the park ever since the change in ownership, and through both sets of management. They really have basically re-built the park and completely revolutionized the operations. It used to be a slowly dying park, but now as you've witnessed it is regularly packed out. Big things are on the horizon for this place. I'm getting really excited about it.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on August 06, 2015, 09:37:15 PM
This is my local park and this park hands down has to be the cleanest nicest small park in the nation.  I go about twice a week and they have done so much to this park you want to go not just to ride the rides. Their shows are highly entertaining a must to see while visiting. Most are themed to Oklahoma and the west.  The staff is very interactive and friendly I have not had a problem. I was with my best friend one day out of the blue a associate walking by greeted me and my friend and he even was very courteous to my girlfriend. He shook my hand and asked the two of us how our visit was that day.  You don't see that a themepark anywhere except maybe a Disney Park.  The landscaping the overall cleanliness of the park on a scale of 1 to 10 was a 11. They have one heck of team.   If you want the total package while visiting a themepark visit Frontier City. They deliver a first class Park experience. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on December 16, 2015, 01:17:58 PM
Screamscape is reporting that the enterprise may have already been removed from the park to be replaced with one of the new generation HUSS models.

I loved the old versions, but the ride cycles kept getting shorter and shorter, and FC's was particularly short. When it takes 5X longer to load the ride than to run it then it's not worth bothering with. I'll be excited to see how the new concept works out.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 12, 2016, 08:56:32 PM
So it sounds like they backed out of plans to get the new generation Enterprise, and from the looks of today's FB hint they are finally bringing back the Swingin' Six Guns instead. That means they are just swapping out an old school enterprise for an old school wave swinger... and a rather meager one at that from my memory. It has cool decorations, but doesn't go very high or fast and is pretty mild even for a ride of this type.

Meh, at least it's some sort of development. Maybe they're saving up for something bigger.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: DeweyBald on January 13, 2016, 07:38:32 PM
We went for fright fest back in October and LOVED it.  I had never been and we scored some free tickets so I thought "what the heck?"  I'm glad we went because we had a blast. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on January 14, 2016, 12:20:54 AM
I follow Frontier City very closely its my home park.  I joined a local club that follows the park also and my speculation by the clues and exclusive clues the park posted on the club page. Plus the clue they posted on FB is that it a strong possibility that it is a Zamp. Endeavor.  Now in addition I think because one of the clues on that club page there was a (...) at the end of the clue like there is more.  Frontier City has been the past two years taken a older ride and refurbishing and rebuilding the ride.  Last season it was the Casino which looks very sharp with it new panels and light package.  It was completely rebuilt and along with that ride they added Brain Drain.  In 2014 they added Winged Warrior a Flying Scooter ride and that same season they refurbished their Chance Rotor ride that sat unused for several years.  They refurbished the rotor and called it Tumble Weed.  I think they are continuing this trend this time they had to replace Rodeo Roundup because of that certain HUSS model it is not serviceable or the part to repair the old ride is very expensive.   They are replacing it with this new ride that could be a Endeavor.  The ride I think they are referring in the picture teaser is the ride picked for its overhaul and refurbishment this season. It is the former Six Shooter. I have a feeling that it may actually be placed in the old foot print of the former drop ride Eruption that sits next to Wildcat.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 14, 2016, 01:13:42 PM
Paul Davis told me on TPR that the old swings were essentially scrapped due to the shape they were in. Everyone seems pretty intent on the Zamperla Endeavor, which would be fine with me. Here's a video of one in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLA1t1--w3U


I can't wait until they finally put something new in the old ErUPtion spot. The few who follow this park have been speculating about that space for ages.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on January 15, 2016, 09:33:35 AM
I spoke with Paul really nice kid he has been in the boneyard he said the old Tomahawk has been scrapped and there is just pieces. The Six Shooter (YoYo swings) could still be rebuilt.  All the pieces are still there Frontier City has been doing alot to refurbish or restore old and dated rides.  He speculates the turn back time posts on Frontier City Facebook page is also a hint to them bringing back the ride.  Before they took it out for Steel Lasso there was nothing wrong with the ride it was just removed for the new coaster in 2008.  So like him we are speculating the ride is going to be rebuilt and refurbished and be erected where eruption once sat which would make sense this ride would be a ride kids could ride while their older siblings ride Wildcat or Silver Bullet. You think last year they added Brain Drain Larson Loop in addition Casino(Trabant ride) it was rehabbed and refurbished.  2014 the Winged Warrior was added and Tumbleweed (Rotor Ride) was refurbished and rebuilt. Wildcat got some updated track work and station restoration. Signage on the coaster.   His Coaster Club Central Plains Coaster Club everyone in the club is on the same page by the clue posted on Frontier City facebook page and the exclusive clue posted on the club FB page  that Rodeo Roundup will be removed and a New Endeavor ride will be erected on the RR spot. It's just wait and see I'm so glad the park is doing these upgrades to the park.  Keep it fresh the management they have had the past 4 years care deeply about the park and it shows throughout the park the work they have done Frontier City is great again.   
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 21, 2016, 02:54:00 PM
So they've announced that it will be a Zamperla Power Surge after all. Seems to be a decent choice as the park needed a true thrill ride (the superloop sort of counts but is still pretty forceless).

I'm curious to see how it will be implimented. For all they've done with the place, they do kind of skimp on things sometimes, such as the way the flyers were scooped up and thrown into the park a couple years ago. I haven't seen the superloop in person, but it looks pretty plain. I hope this isn't just a used fair ground ride that they're going to build a deck around.

Now to really start wondering when the next coaster project will come. They've got the park fixed up, parking expanded, new thrill rides in place, new family coaster, new family water attraction... Seems like the next big addition will either be a big new family area or a coaster.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: tinmann620 on January 22, 2016, 09:41:37 AM
From the fb~
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on January 23, 2016, 02:34:00 PM
So they've announced that it will be a Zamperla Power Surge after all. Seems to be a decent choice as the park needed a true thrill ride (the superloop sort of counts but is still pretty forceless).

I'm curious to see how it will be implimented. For all they've done with the place, they do kind of skimp on things sometimes, such as the way the flyers were scooped up and thrown into the park a couple years ago. I haven't seen the superloop in person, but it looks pretty plain. I hope this isn't just a used fair ground ride that they're going to build a deck around.

Now to really start wondering when the next coaster project will come. They've got the park fixed up, parking expanded, new thrill rides in place, new family coaster, new family water attraction... Seems like the next big addition will either be a big new family area or a coaster.


A fanclub page I follow on FB Central Plains Coaster Club.  One of the park managers posted pictures of off-season work even infrastructure work going on at the park. I'm glad they invest in stuff like that and show what they are doing during the off season.  Looks like the area where the new ride is going is being redone by the pictures that were posted.  It is replacing Rodeo Roundup which according to the park the age of the ride the parts for the ride are very expensive. (My take on that is I notice alot of parks across the nation have been getting rid of their old model HUSS Enterprises probably for the same reason the cost to maintain.) The Sidewinder(scrambler)  it's neighbor is getting refurbished. That has been the trend with this park the past 3 seasons.  Add a new ride and refurbish a older ride.    Gunslinger I understand will be using some of the parts from the old ride that held that same name years ago for decorations.  I'm interested in seeing what changes they make to the area. One of the pictures shows demolition at the front entrance. From what I understand in the comments  The front entrance is getting new planters conduit and minor changes  because of the age of the park.  I like seeing that the park does invest money not just on rides but also on infrastructure.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: CoasterWrangler on June 15, 2016, 09:25:44 PM
Paul here with Central Plains Coaster Club! Wanted to let you guys know that Gunslinger has soft opened and is an amazing ride. Would be awesome if you guys came out and enjoyed the ride.


Paul D.
CPCC Owner
www.centralplainscoasterclub.com
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Dewayne on June 15, 2016, 09:28:04 PM
I dont know who you are or the company
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on June 15, 2016, 09:41:50 PM
^^Thanks for the update Paul.

I'm surprised it's taken them this long. Has it been having major issues? When we were out there for the ACE event a couple of months ago they were saying they wanted it to open within a week or two. They do kind of have a habit of letting new stuff open later in the season though.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on June 29, 2016, 05:13:06 PM
The Silver Bullet is currently stuck at the top of the lift hill with eight riders (about 40 minutes so far).  They've cut the power and are "walking them down the catwalk" now.  There's not much of a catwalk to begin with, so that could be a great deal of fun.  One rider is down now.  No one is hurt.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on June 29, 2016, 05:57:32 PM
The problem is that it stalled with several cars over the edge of the drop. If it had stalled or been stopped sooner, they all could have walked off and there wouldn't be much of a story. Unfortunately a dramatic fireman rescue + slow news day means FC is getting national publicity over this. Sucks for it to happen to such a nice park. Ride stalls are usually no big deal.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on June 29, 2016, 07:04:00 PM
It is funny to watch the local guys spend 15 minutes of live coverage trying to figure out what kind of safety equipment is being used, only to finally deduce that it's a fanny pack.

Any time the one being "rescued" stops midrescue to don her shades you know it's not serious, but if there's one thing I know about OKC news, it is their central mission to sensationalize everything.

Hope the one adult didn't call in sick today.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on June 29, 2016, 07:16:00 PM
Guys beat me to it. Lol

STORY HERE: http://m.newson6.com/story.aspx?story=32339128&catId=112042
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on June 30, 2016, 07:54:39 PM
It opened back up today.  http://www.news9.com/story/32350474/roller-coaster-reopens-after-malfunction-at-frontier-city

I am just amazed at the idiotic comments that I have seen in the past 24 hours on social media and on the news pages from the general public. I just LOL at the people up in an uproar actually calling for it to be closed and demolished as it is "unsafe" and a disaster waiting to happen. It was more than likely a simple lift hill malfunction which is probably one of the least dangerous malfunctions to occur on a coaster, yet it is getting blown way out of perspective.

Another person made a great comment in rebutttal to the sensationalized comments.

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It's like demoing your house when a breaker flips. smh
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on June 30, 2016, 08:32:51 PM
You should see local media.  I happen to be in OKC now, and they're covering it like its an attack on the homeland.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on June 30, 2016, 09:24:27 PM
You would think OKC would know better.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on July 01, 2016, 12:33:55 AM
They don't:  everything is sensationalized.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: CoasterWrangler on July 22, 2016, 06:56:41 PM
Hello SDC Fans! Paul here from Central Plains Coaster Club. I wanted to let you guys know about our event at Frontier City this year. The event is called Ride For A Cure Day. We will he raising money for Muscular Dystrophy Association here in Oklahoma City, OK. The money earned will be used to pay for kids camp experiences, Medical Equipment and more provided through MDA. If you have any questions, feel free to email me at cpcoasterclub@gmail.com. I would love it if you guys came out and enjoyed this day with us and it's a great way to have a good time for a good cause doing something we all enjoy!!

www.centralplainscoasterclub.com/events
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on July 22, 2016, 08:31:23 PM
Sounds good to me. So to be clear: we don't have to be a member to participate, just show up and buy a shirt and/or raffle ticket?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: CoasterWrangler on July 22, 2016, 09:38:04 PM
You got it! This is a PUBLIC EVENT. The event is run by our club but is a public event and is open to anyone who wants to come!

Paul Davis
CPCC President
www.centralplainscoasterclub.com
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on July 23, 2016, 10:31:10 AM
You got it! This is a PUBLIC EVENT. The event is run by our club but is a public event and is open to anyone who wants to come!

Paul Davis
CPCC President
www.centralplainscoasterclub.com

So, again, no secret handshake required ;D
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on November 04, 2016, 08:01:32 AM
Got a new owner, an REIT based out of Kansas City called EPR Properties bought CNL Lifestyle's theme and water park portfolio.

Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on November 06, 2016, 07:00:37 PM
I'm really curious what their investment strategy will be going forward. CNL was understandably restrained on big capital investments since they were looking to sell, but from my understanding of REITs they are all pretty tight on the pocket book in any case. Perhaps we'll see a little more investment, but still not quite as much as if they were sold to an actual operator?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on November 06, 2016, 07:44:02 PM
From what I understand by looking at this new company EPR they actually invest in companies well known in the entertainment industry.  Some of the companies they help financially back is Schlitterbahn Resorts, Top Golf Entertainment and AMC Movie Theater Chain here in the U.S. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on January 09, 2017, 11:01:05 PM
Frontier City has a new attraction they have started teasing this past week.  Sunday they posted a couple of photo on their FB page with the caption "All this snow might just melt into something we can use this summer... " To add onto the group two days before that on the Central Plains Coaster Club FB page Michael Shwitek posted a photo of 3 blind mice. with the caption.."Hhhmmm... " on that post in the comments another Manager posted a photo of another manager in Renegade Rapids with a hard hat on post it note in hand pointing towards the S.W. part of the park Wilcat area. So what does all these clues mean?  There will be more clues after I asked them in the comments section of inital post with the two photos. I'm guessing they will be expanding Wild West Water Works and possibly putting in a ride on the dry side.  Waiting for more clue to be posted I expect more to be posted later this week.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on January 09, 2017, 11:37:12 PM
 This is my personal guess not the actual new attraction.  My guesses by the clues is the 3 blind mice refer to a 3 slide trap door slide structure.  That is my guess. There is rumors that it will go into the area where Eruption once stood and that a lazy River will also be added to connect the play structure of Wild West Water Works with new Slide Structure. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 09, 2017, 11:50:40 PM
Interesting. Definitely hinting at a water attraction I think, which the park sorely needs more of. Just think how many weekends during peak season the park sees 100 degree weather. I don't know if I really see them adding thrill slides to this park though since they have White Water...

The log ride just doesn't have enough capacity to keep up, and WWW is for kids. So the river rapids is the last ride I would expect to see them mess with. It's also honestly one of the best that is still around seeing as it has some really nice theming. Then again it's also probably expensive, takes up a lot of real estate, and I could see it having worse ridership than it should due to how hidden it is within the park.

Years ago I said that what I would suggest is taking out the go-karts and putting in a splash battle. That would be a great compliment to the rapids and provide a much needed family water ride with high capacity and engagement for kids. That was back when the go-karts barely functioned though, and now I'm sure they are pretty profitable.

I think what I want most right now is for them to totally overhaul Wildcat though. Just a complete GCII rebuild where they tear down the return run and start over. Or even just retire the whole thing and build new.

Maybe they can just squeeze something into the wildcat infield.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: marolinesdad on January 10, 2017, 10:54:46 PM
They used to have several great water slides.  Part of the tunnel for one of them is by the tin Lizzys. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on January 22, 2017, 02:34:33 PM
ACE South Central had a winter event at Six Flags Fiesta Texas yesterday and a member posted on Texas Thrill Seekers and shared it with the OKC local coaster club Central Plains Coaster Club that Frontier City is expanding on Wild West Water this season. The coaster train on Wildcat coaster is getting a complete overhaul, plus there will be new additions to Diamondback. (there was rumors that one of the additions is shade structure on the waiting platform). Other news that was reported is that there will be upgrades to the eating establishments and construction of additional restrooms. No brand new coaster but with the changing of the new ownership I can see a major addition happening next season when the park turns 60. The official announcement from the park will be made public on Wednesday this week.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 22, 2017, 07:51:31 PM
Sensible... but kind of a letdown. At least that means the rapids ride is safe.

I agree that next year should be the year. Would be amazing if there were new coasters at both FC and SDC.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 22, 2017, 08:33:59 PM
Sensible... but kind of a letdown. At least that means the rapids ride is safe.

I agree that next year should be the year. Would be amazing if there were new coasters at both FC and SDC.

and WOF and SFSTL. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on February 23, 2017, 07:14:41 PM
Last Saturday I attended the Central Plains Coaster Club off season tour Frozen Frontier at Frontier City.  The park is doing a lot this off season.  Some most noticeable changes will be the restaurants all of them are getting complete overhauls.  Best of the West Cafe  will have all booth seating.  No more flippy flop tables.  Other noticeable changes will be a new pathway next to the Nightmare mine haunted house.  It separates a park like area that will be used for a future attraction by what we were told and it gives the area a better flow for concerts.  Also if you haven't seen Philadelphia Toboggan Coaster FB page Wildcat train received a complete overhaul it is now a Royal Blue.  This past fall we learned that Frontier City purchased Fun Spot Indiana's Afterburner. The moving parts from that coaster will be used to keep Diamond back in operation for many more years.  Also the station cover will be refurbished and placed on Diamond back to provide shade on those Hot Oklahoma summer days.  We were told the station has some lengthy permits that need to be reviewed and approved before work will start on installing the station cover.  Finally we heard of Gullywasher the new attraction  we were shown the actual spot it will be at in the park. I have photos and will break it up for you so you can see the changes.  I'm glad the park is investing on infrastructure those small changes that make a big impact not for enthusiast but mainly for the General Public.  It shows the park cares about it's guests.     
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on February 23, 2017, 07:16:40 PM
Here is the new pathway being installed at the park.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on February 23, 2017, 07:22:06 PM
Here are shots of Afterburner parts and its station that will be constructed on Diamond Back. It's going to be nice to sit in the coaster not baking in the sun while you wait for the loading process before dispatch.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on February 23, 2017, 07:27:32 PM
Also looks like they may be bringing back "Shake Rattle and Roll" It wasn't confirmed on the show lineup because the shows are managed by a outside company. There was work being done on stage.  I hope it is to replace Industrial movement I was not a fan of that show. It was extremely loud and to me didn't fit with a themepark regular season show lineup.  I remember "Shake Rattle and Roll" and it was a guest favorite. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on February 23, 2017, 07:33:41 PM
Gully Washer we learned will be placed on the NW side of Wild West Water Works main structure.  The tower will be immediately to the right as you walk into the area.  The slides will wind down and exit near the Wildcat first drop.  Also learned the East Infield  and where Eruption once stood will be used for future WWWW expansion.  I have attached a birds-eye view screen shot of google maps showing the location of where the tower and the direction of the slides will be traveling.  During the event we were told the marketing placed the slides behind the main structure so they could show that the new slides would be at Frontier City not White Water Bay  They know people would get the two confused and think the slides would be built at White Water Bay. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on February 23, 2017, 07:39:21 PM
Here is some coaster photos we got to take we were allowed in the infields to get close to the coasters.  I sat on the tracks of a Schwarzkopf.  The coaster geek in me is showing. I was pretty giddy. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on February 23, 2017, 07:41:47 PM
More coaster infields
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: biscuitcreek on May 04, 2017, 05:14:52 PM
Firefighters had to rescue riders from the Silver Bullet roller coaster. Info from KY3:

http://www.ky3.com/content/news/VIDEO-Firefighters-rescue-roller-coaster-riders-stuck-in-Oklahoma-City-421366113.html
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sirwillow on May 05, 2017, 09:00:58 AM
Saw that briefly on the news yesterday.  Still wondering exactly how they got the people in the lead 2 cars out and down since they were past the evac platforms on the lift.

Those kinds of things are never fun for a park.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on May 05, 2017, 01:47:48 PM
We'll they've had practice........this same ride malfunctioned in the same location on the lift last year. The rescue was documented well but I had a hard time watching (I'm not a heights person, however riding rollercoasters has never bothered me).

The way it went down before, was the firemen were on the sides and tops of the cars, they would harness the rider then release the lap bar, the rider was then escorted up and over their seats, then up and over each car until they could get to the catwalk. I'm not sure I could do it....heck, I'm not sure I could even walk down the stairs...

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on May 08, 2017, 08:30:33 AM
Definitely makes me wonder again about how much more time this coaster has at the park. This is now two huge rounds of bad publicity for the park, and apparently this time it was during a corporate event, which is probably even worse for them. Should have extended the stairs the first time it happened...

There are all kinds of new fangled Mack and Gerstauler rides that would fit that spot great.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Dewayne on May 08, 2017, 12:03:48 PM
1st time it happened I said, well make sure it doesnt happen again. Now this is the 2nd time. WTF Frontier City!?!? You should have fixed the problem the 1st time! You need to do more than just oil the tracks! Dont make this happen again. This is not the publicity you want. If the ride dont want to work, remove it. There are a few other great coasters that would be perfect for that spot.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 08, 2017, 06:09:38 PM
Every single coaster in every park even rides break down they are machines.   I rode that coaster this past weekend after the incident it was just fine. Frontier City has to be the nicest small park in the United states this year the work they have done all through out the park its noticeable big time this season.  The park is as clean as a Cedar Fair park a lot of care has been put into the park this season.  every single restaurant has been remodeled there is a new pathway to make way for a future attraction.  They are expanding onto Wild West Water works with thrill slides to drive up attendance during those scorching Oklahoma Summer days. Every single ride was touched this off season. Since 2012 the park has really turned around each and every year. They have added attractions every year since 2012.  They take extreme care of their rides it shows. I know they will keep those coaster running for years to come. Two of those coasters are extremely rare coasters people come from all over the world to ride.  I'm proud OKC has a very nice park that has played a big part in the modern day theme park.   Frontier City has to be one of the best small parks in the United States. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on May 10, 2017, 03:27:21 PM
Actually last year was not the first time Silver Bullet got stuck like that.  It has happened in the past but not as well known.  My understanding was it was a sensor malfunction which caused the safety systems to go into effect locking the train. 

Does anybody know if they have done anything with the BBQ restaurant out there?  The last year or 2 I have been there they have never opened it.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on May 10, 2017, 11:15:53 PM
I heard the BBQ restaurant will operate again this summer, but it might have limited hours and only operate when it is busier?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 11, 2017, 08:46:55 PM
I contacted the park and found out they plan to open the Bbq for the first time this season. The Kitchen and counter have been renovated or slightly remodeled like all the other eating establishments in the park. Everysingle food counter in the park had extensive refreshes through out the park. You will notice the changes if you are a regular or familiar with the park.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: npd652 on June 05, 2017, 04:10:17 AM
Thinking about going to Frontier City in July. I will be staying overnight and attending the park all day. Wondering if a person needs one or two days to fully experience the park. Also like to know if there is any special deals out there. I seen where some hotels offered a package deal that included tickets to the park.....seemed like a good deal. Figure I would check on this site before I booked the trip......will also be going to Six Flags over Texas July 13-16 and will be at Frontier City July 16-17. Thanks in advance for your help.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on June 05, 2017, 01:04:16 PM
Thinking about going to Frontier City in July. I will be staying overnight and attending the park all day. Wondering if a person needs one or two days to fully experience the park. Also like to know if there is any special deals out there. I seen where some hotels offered a package deal that included tickets to the park.....seemed like a good deal. Figure I would check on this site before I booked the trip......will also be going to Six Flags over Texas July 13-16 and will be at Frontier City July 16-17. Thanks in advance for your help.

One day is probably enough.  It's not SDC.  Be ready to face crowds of teens, and check to see if there are any company parties in the park on the day(s) of your visit.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on June 05, 2017, 07:14:27 PM
You can "do" frontier city in a matter of hours, especially if there are no crowds. It's a small park and there aren't many big rides that are worth re-riding over and over again. I wish they'd rebuild the last half of Wildcat because that ride would be worth the trip alone if it weren't for the way they screwed it up.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on June 05, 2017, 09:12:44 PM
If you go on a non-concert day you can complete the park in about 4 hours if not less. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Dewayne on June 05, 2017, 10:58:51 PM
Buy 1, get 1 free coupons at most Kum & Gos
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on June 20, 2017, 02:06:46 PM
Hey, guess what got stuck on the lift yesterday?? Yep, the Silver Bullet and firefighters had to rescue the riders once again (I've decided to always ride in the back now.....I'm a wimp). This makes 5 times in the last nine years people have had to be rescued off the ride:

1. August 2008
2. August 2014
3. June 2016
4. May 2017
5. June 2017

Jay

Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on June 20, 2017, 05:01:18 PM
Yep I saw that on the news yesterday.  I am afraid that coasters days may be numbered.  I am not sure why they can't get it fixed though.  We drove by Sunday and the place looked packed.  There was a big line for Silver Bullet as well as the Steel Lasso. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on June 20, 2017, 07:35:42 PM
Hey, guess what got stuck on the lift yesterday?? Yep, the Silver Bullet and firefighters had to rescue the riders once again (I've decided to always ride in the back now.....I'm a wimp). This makes 5 times in the last nine years people have had to be rescued off the ride:

1. August 2008
2. August 2014
3. June 2016
4. May 2017
5. June 2017

Jay

To be fair though you can make a similar list for many rides at all kinds of parks. A lot of us enthusiasts have multiple stories about getting stuck on rides. I got stuck on Valravn at Cedar Point last year, and it is a brand new tens-of-millions-of-dollars ride. Most of the time they simply have to restart the ride.

If I'm understanding correctly, they didn't have to do much this time - it was a simple computer reboot.

I absolutely agree that this is becoming a PR nightmare though. While lots of rides get stuck, few require such intense evacuations when they really do get stuck. Mostly all they need to fix this is a catwalk extension like BGW did, then it won't be so dramatic. I'm pretty sure that it will still require firemen presence though when people have to climb down the cat walk... Eventually they will start getting upset about repeat calls.

But if the media is freaking out this much over a 15 minute stoppage and computer system reboot... then surely the PTB are feeling pressure to come up with a replacement plan. Certainly not this year, or probably even the next, but in three to five or so I can see it. I could see them selling it to a carnival or swapping it with another one of their properties. With a little finagling they could fit the Gauntlet into that space... 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on June 20, 2017, 07:45:37 PM
I'm not sure it was just a reboot though. The clips I saw only had two cars past the catwalk...with firemen on the ride again, but it could have been stock footage.

The simple solution would be to extend the catwalk....and with two rescues this year, there might be more pressure to make that happen. However Oklahomans like adventure so they might start using it as a marketing tool!

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on June 20, 2017, 08:59:11 PM
A simpler fix:  change the name of the ride from the Silver Bullet to Russian Roulette.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on June 22, 2017, 07:26:23 PM
The news media has been worse this time around than any when it legitimately got stuck and people had to be rescued. They keep running story after story, facebook polls, etc. They also keep using the old stock footage with the firetrucks pulled up and everything - all covering up that this was a simple computer reboot.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on June 22, 2017, 11:09:34 PM
I frequent this park a lot this season.  Fantastic park for it's size Tremendous stuff to do in this small park This season the shows are so good they are being nominated for awards. Especially Shake Rattle and Roll.  This season The 3rd TJS Showbiz Shannigans plays into the 5:15 gun show.  Pretty Clever the way it's done.
      Now back to Silver Bullet my opinion is I think the park should do what Magic Mountain did to Revolution.  They should refurbish this coaster the whole works new computer, Control board, system upgrades.  Also cosmetic upgrades like new paint, new coaster trains, Station updates. A total Refurbishment.  It's a Schwarzkopf and a really good Schwarzkopf the coaster is a prototype and 1 of three still running in the World. Coaster enthusiast travel from all over the World to ride this coaster.  A German coaster club was in the park earlier this month filming.  They came mainly for this coaster.  No this coaster doesn't need to go anywhere it's A great classic that need to be around for many more years.  Frontier City I have a suspicion that they will be adding a coaster next season. Rumor around the park is this coaster will be located in the Nightmare Mine building..For me I take that rumor with a grain of salt.  They added Steel Lasso for the 50th anniversary You know they are going to add something major for the parks 60th.     
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: npd652 on June 26, 2017, 05:06:36 AM
These buy one get one free tickets at Kum and Go......these at kum and go in Oklahoma City area?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on June 26, 2017, 09:02:06 AM
I would love to see another coaster in the nightmare mine building. Wish they never took that out.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Dewayne on June 30, 2017, 09:52:41 AM
These buy one get one free tickets at Kum and Go......these at kum and go in Oklahoma City area?

I got some in Locust Grove. Frontier City is in....what city??
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on June 30, 2017, 08:59:45 PM
Thinking about going to Frontier City in July. I will be staying overnight and attending the park all day. Wondering if a person needs one or two days to fully experience the park. Also like to know if there is any special deals out there. I seen where some hotels offered a package deal that included tickets to the park.....seemed like a good deal. Figure I would check on this site before I booked the trip......will also be going to Six Flags over Texas July 13-16 and will be at Frontier City July 16-17. Thanks in advance for your help.

One day is probably enough.  It's not SDC.  Be ready to face crowds of teens, and check to see if there are any company parties in the park on the day(s) of your visit.


Frontier City is a small park that packs a lot in a small area.  Besides the rides they have a pretty decent water play area with a new speed slide complex attraction called Gully Washer.  If you have kids they have a nice themed kids area with a fair amount of decent rides. The small building in the kids are the original buildings used at the fairgrounds where the park began.  Also  The kids area has a petting zoo where you can pet farm animals.   The shows have all been revamped  they have 4 shows in the Two John Saloons The original saloon show, Then Showbiz Shenanigans which ties into the following gun show on the other side of the park at Crack Axle Canyon.  The last two shows is the Flea Circus and the Magic Show.   They also have two complete main Magic shows that play twice daily.  Then you have the longest running gun fight show in a themepark taking place in Crack Axle Canyon.  With all kinds of live action special effects.  There is twice daily a little kids show called Make Believe Circus.  My favorite show is Shake Rattle and Roll The show is phenomenal the production is up there  with shows at SDC and Fiesta Texas.  I believe SR&R will win awards this season. Excellent show.  Plus the rides the park has some pretty rare classics  Silver Bullet Schwarzkopf  designed coaster only one with the pop of air towards the end before you enter the tunnel.  Diamond Back a rare Arrow Shuttle coaster only 3 left running in the world.  The staff is pretty good for the most part some days you can go to the park they will WOW you then somedays you get that six flags type staff.  For a small park it has to be the best small park in the United States. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on June 30, 2017, 09:04:54 PM
These buy one get one free tickets at Kum and Go......these at kum and go in Oklahoma City area?

I got some in Locust Grove. Frontier City is in....what city??

Frontier City is located in NE Oklahoma City just south of Edmond,OK 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Dewayne on July 02, 2017, 08:51:18 AM
These buy one get one free tickets at Kum and Go......these at kum and go in Oklahoma City area?

I got some in Locust Grove. Frontier City is in....what city??

Frontier City is located in NE Oklahoma City just south of Edmond,OK

Exactly. You didnt get it.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Gilligan on July 02, 2017, 11:54:46 AM
These buy one get one free tickets at Kum and Go......these at kum and go in Oklahoma City area?

I got some in Locust Grove. Frontier City is in....what city??

Frontier City is located in NE Oklahoma City just south of Edmond,OK

Exactly. You didnt get it.

No, but he tried to be helpful to those that don't know. So...mind your manners.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Dewayne on July 05, 2017, 09:59:39 AM
He asked if Kum&Go had coupons in OKC. I said I got them in Locust Grove and I didnt expect to because it is far away. Sheeeesh!
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on October 21, 2017, 03:28:53 PM
Frontier City anounced on Friday that they are expanding their season in 2018 with "A Frontier Christmas" They have a large display set up in Fort Frontier.  I'm sure this is one of the many things they will add next year.  2018 is the parks 60th anniversary.  The park has a new owner EPR out of Kansas City the company that owns Schlitterbahn resorts and Top Golf.  Having the Christmas event next season is great news.  Here is some photos I took at Fright Fest last night of the Display.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on October 21, 2017, 10:05:05 PM
And the transformation of FC into SDC-lite continues, lol. I'm just wondering when they'll roll out their own craft festival.

It's a good idea though, and I'm glad to see the park continue to make smart moves. I just hope this isn't the only thing they are working on for next year... seems like this might have been their big announcement for the year. As nice as FC is, it needs something new and big for me to really be interested in it again.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on October 22, 2017, 03:08:28 PM
Hey a crafts festival.........that might really work. I've always associated them with the Fall though with Fin and Feather, SDC, War Eagle....I wonder if a spring or summer one would go over well? I'm surprised it has taken Frontier City this long to do the Christmas thing. Especially with all the Christmas attractions that do well in Oklahoma.

With regard to attractions, I think if they would just do one of those family type coasters like that is being placed in the Fun Spots, etc. they would get me to make a trip several times a year. I've been to SDC four times so far, but haven't made a stop at Frontier City yet and I drive by it at least once a week.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on November 21, 2017, 02:16:54 PM
So it seems there's a possibility that FC could announce a new ride on Monday since they are pushing a season pass sale that day. They did the same thing for Magic Springs yesterday when they announced the new drop tower.

I wouldn't be surprised if FC gets a drop tower as well. Probably lets them get a discount for multiple orders and it wouldn't be hard to fit it into Wildcat's infield. That would make me happy enough. Just as long as it isn't another water park addition for FC's mini water park. I wonder how many people actually bothered changing into swimsuits to ride the new slides this year.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on November 21, 2017, 05:55:03 PM
What happened to the other drop tower
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on November 21, 2017, 05:59:25 PM
Frontier City is my home park the water park area of the park actually seemed a lot more busier this summer.  There was days that it seemed to be busier then the park during the weekdays.  I"m with you I rather see a drop tower like the one Magic Springs instead of adding water attractions to the water park.  I'm curious to see when they are going to announce and what they are going to announce.  I messaged the park hoping I get more of a reply then "Stay Tuned". 

The other drop tower they had actually was old enough that it had to be removed from the park the manufacturer no longer made parts for the ride.  That was removed after the 2013 season and in 2014 the park fell into a heck of deal with Larson on Flyers.  The OKC zoo could not at the time add them to the zoo the ride was sitting in OKC and has not been paid for Larson asked Frontier City if they wanted to buy the ride was already sitting in OKC.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 22, 2018, 08:36:27 AM
Sounds like Silver Bullet is getting a new train or at least some new parts off the old Greezed' Lightning train. Too bad that coaster is basically confirmed toast now. I really though SB's days were numbered after getting stuck two or three times in one summer and making national news. Granted, it wasn't a big deal, but the PR was nasty. Maybe this will at least fix the issue that was making it get stuck.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on January 22, 2018, 05:20:15 PM
Sounds like Silver Bullet is getting a new train or at least some new parts off the old Greezed' Lightning train. Too bad that coaster is basically confirmed toast now. I really though SB's days were numbered after getting stuck two or three times in one summer and making national news. Granted, it wasn't a big deal, but the PR was nasty. Maybe this will at least fix the issue that was making it get stuck.


What was the European park that refurb'd and enclosed a shuttle loop?

Ah, here it is. Well done
https://youtu.be/eJC1SAY9psE
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sirwillow on January 23, 2018, 09:10:16 AM

What was the European park that refurb'd and enclosed a shuttle loop?

Ah, here it is. Well done
https://youtu.be/eJC1SAY9psE

That's different. 

I was thinking it was a classic Schwartzkopf until it actually started the launch and crawled forward...
Same exact idea except built by Gerstlauer.  If you look at the photos on RCDB before they enclosed it, it looks almost like they copied Anton's old coaster design nearly exactly, but put in a different launch system.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on January 23, 2018, 10:16:33 AM

What was the European park that refurb'd and enclosed a shuttle loop?

Ah, here it is. Well done
https://youtu.be/eJC1SAY9psE

That's different. 

I was thinking it was a classic Schwartzkopf until it actually started the launch and crawled forward...
Same exact idea except built by Gerstlauer.  If you look at the photos on RCDB before they enclosed it, it looks almost like they copied Anton's old coaster design nearly exactly, but put in a different launch system.

I had thought they modified an original but I don't really know.

That brings me to something off topic. I wish some city with an empty dome stadium would work out a best of Europe Fun Fair event in Jan and Feb, where they would bring in something like Olympia Looping for a limited engagement.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 23, 2018, 10:45:30 AM

What was the European park that refurb'd and enclosed a shuttle loop?

Ah, here it is. Well done
https://youtu.be/eJC1SAY9psE

That's different. 

I was thinking it was a classic Schwartzkopf until it actually started the launch and crawled forward...
Same exact idea except built by Gerstlauer.  If you look at the photos on RCDB before they enclosed it, it looks almost like they copied Anton's old coaster design nearly exactly, but put in a different launch system.

I had thought they modified an original but I don't really know.

That brings me to something off topic. I wish some city with an empty dome stadium would work out a best of Europe Fun Fair event in Jan and Feb, where they would bring in something like Olympia Looping for a limited engagement.

So like the TWA/Edward Jones Dome in St. Louis?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on January 23, 2018, 01:39:32 PM


Would be a good location. So would San Antonio. 

About four of what's considered the top 10 portable european coaster, one in each endzone and one along the 50 on each side. Maybe just three with a top Euro dark ride, fun house. Fill the rest up with flats not found state side. Have it about every other year. Get Olympia Looping here every 6 yearsm

I wonder when we''ll see our first launched portables on the fair circuit overy there.

Shame Euro Star is rotting in Russia.

Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on January 27, 2018, 10:34:52 AM
I'm going to Central Plains Coaster Clubs  "Frozen Frontier" at Frontier City next Saturday February 3rd.  I will find out more information on the coaster and other plans the park has for it's 60th season. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on February 05, 2018, 09:02:38 PM
I went to Central Plains Coaster Clubs Frozen Frontier at the park.  After the visit I was walked away excited to find out all the changes this year.  Pretty much infrastructure work through-out the park. Much needed work. I can't go into detail because out of respect of the parks request is that they did want this shared on public media outlets.  I know they are not adding a major ride for their 60th.  There major addition which has been shared by the park is "A Frontier Christmas"  I have a very strong feeling that it will be one of the most popular Holiday events in OKC.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on February 05, 2018, 10:00:45 PM
By now they must have rebuilt the entire park with all the years of infrastructure work. I assume they need a lot of extra electrical support for the holiday lights though.

Disappointing that they aren't going to sneak a ride in for this year as well, but I had assumed as much anyway. I'm hoping next season brings something good at last.

The Christmas festival is a great and overdue move. As most other parks have discovered, a few good Christmas weekends can turn a bad season around and add incredible earning potential to the property. It also boosts season pass sales significantly because everyone can easily imagine coming back for Christmas.

The move to a longer season also should put more pressure on them to keep expanding and increasing the quality of their rides. FC has had the same signature rides for decades now, and they just don't cut it. FC's coaster collection is decent, but there's just something lacking to the park in the rides department that is keeping me away from the park. Wildcat and Silver Bullet are nice, but kinda meh... Wildcat bothers me to no end with how messed up the return run is.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on February 10, 2018, 10:59:04 AM
Yes Wildcat had that rough ending before the double down the one thing that ruins that double down is that stinking break run they add on that last hill before the station.  It's a rough stop.  I have to shout Break check.  I have saved numerous riders from getting the wind knocked out of them when they hit that break run. I always ride in the back.  I know the hill before the turn around I  discovered if you lift your feet you get 4 seconds of floater air time before you are bounced back into your seat.  I always sit on the left side too absorb the bouncy turn around.

One thing I liked about Frozen Frontier I learned that they been cleaning around and out the storage areas in and near Wildcats in field.  They discovered the original sign Wildcat sign from Fairyland Kansas.  They didn't know yet what do to do with the sign.  I suggested they do what they did with the Wildcat Station with the history of Wooden Coaster.  Use the East wall of station Encase the sign just clean it up and add history information boards about the coaster. They liked the idea but one of the managers think the sign is in to much disrepair that it wouldn't look good for the park.  I think it would work  I stand inline and those information boards get a lot of attention from all age groups.  I attached a photo of the sign. 

Alot of needed paint and different things done around the park this season will give a image to park guests I have a feeling will in return make a big impact. I would share the information but I don't want too jeopardize future events for any group.  They made clear what we could share and not share on social media platforms.     
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on February 10, 2018, 06:33:59 PM
This park would do well with a clone of Monster at Adventureland. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on February 10, 2018, 07:09:31 PM
This park would do well with a clone of Monster at Adventureland.

There's a whole host of new compact steel coasters they could do well with. Get a Premier Sky Rocket. Plus all those new Vekoma designs haven't made it to the US yet. Chance hasn't sold many of those coasters they installed at Kentucky Kingdom, wonder why?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on March 20, 2018, 03:06:18 AM
Sounds like Silver Bullet is getting a new train or at least some new parts off the old Greezed' Lightning train. Too bad that coaster is basically confirmed toast now. I really though SB's days were numbered after getting stuck two or three times in one summer and making national news. Granted, it wasn't a big deal, but the PR was nasty. Maybe this will at least fix the issue that was making it get stuck.

Driving by the park yesterday, I noticed the SB train had made its way back onto the track. The train looks the same as before, so maybe they are still refurbishing the Greezed' Lightning train, or as you said, using parts from that train on the SB train.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on April 06, 2018, 06:10:40 PM
It sounds like they are getting one of the zip line contraptions that one of Stan Checkett's companies makes. Similar to the one at Kemah. It is listed on the new maps as an upcharge.

Wasn't expecting anything, so its kinda neat. Not thrilled about upcharge attractions, but if it makes them some extra dough to go towards something really worthwhile, that's a good thing.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 06, 2018, 11:56:41 PM
I haven't updated on here since the park opened up for the season.  Since I frequent the park.  They have made some great improvements to the park.  More with landscaping and theme-ing and upgrades to the buildings and rides.  Prarie Schooner the ship part had a detail Paint job.  The artist did a great job.  Also Winged Warrior now fits the parks theme not some random tropical parrots.  The food options have changed through out the park. Stuff has moved around.   They have a new Beer Stand in Fort Frontier, Also a brand new French Fry Stand.  The shows they have added more shows.   New this year replacing the kid shows they have is a country and Western Show.  Very fitting for the park.  The Two John saloon has two shows instead of 4 different shows.   A smaller Magic Show and PT Barnums Flea Circus  Both are highly entertaining The performer they have is one heck of a performer never breaks character even when walking around the park.  The characters in the show if they are out and about walking the pathways in their costume like the Gunfighters they remain in character. It adds charm to the experience.   This season the park added a exclusive show to celebrate Frontier City's 60th anniversary.  The show is very original its  called "Celebration: A Musical Review" s Music through the decades of the parks Existence.  It covers Pop Culture of each decade starting with the late 50th through today.  A Frontier City gunfighter does the narration between the decades talking about the park.  There is a nostalgic video at one point that reflects on the parks past that transition you to how the park is today.  There is also a Frontier City song that begins the show, has a bit in the middle and closes out with the Frontier City song.  The new Soaring Eagle Zip Line attraction has started to rise up from the ground. I like the location where it will zip over main street.  The loading platform will be elevated there  will be a ramp to lead up to the platform.  Also the park has 60th anniversary merchandise in the main gift store.  The smaller Gift shop has old mugs on sale from the park 50th anniversary.   So for me  that mug was a nice souvenir to purchase.  The park has done some great improvements and I can't wait for the future. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on May 07, 2018, 09:58:23 AM
It's awesome that they are still pushing more and more improvements. I need to head out there soon and take it in again. I appreciate park management that pushes for quality.

They need a big new ride soon though... all these little improvements all over the place are nice, but it feels like they've been working toward something big that is taking forever to show up. I know the Christmas event is a big deal, but it's not exactly as exciting as a new ride.

I'm curious if we will see an Iron Shark clone like DL is getting. I would much prefer something a little bigger or more unique, but since FC is small, Premier is cheap, and they don't have a lot of land to work with, it would be very fitting for them.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on May 22, 2018, 04:39:55 PM
Will we finally have Six Flags Frontier City?

http://investors.sixflags.com/news-and-events/press-releases/2018/05-22-2018-210951050

In the past Frontier City was never included as part of the Six Flags season passes.....I’m hoping they will change that this time around.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on May 22, 2018, 04:54:05 PM
Not sure what to make of this... I doubt they will bring the SF branding here, similar to last time, but the pass benefits will be nice for us.

The park has been on such a good track for the last decade. Sure, it's been frustrating waiting for something "big", but the incremental improvements can't be overlooked. It felt like they were on the cusp of something big. I guess that's part of being setup for sale by these REITs though. They were always going to be stingy with the cap.ex. spending.

I just don't want FC to languish again... feels like watching a friend get back with their ex...

If they kick this off with a big new expansion next year though, that would be amazing.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 22, 2018, 05:25:30 PM
I can't believe it like History repeats itself.  I can't wait to go on Saturday talk with some of the managers get their take on this whole transaction.  I pray it's a good thing something major gets added to this park.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sirwillow on May 22, 2018, 05:51:08 PM
Will we finally have Six Flags Frontier City?

http://investors.sixflags.com/news-and-events/press-releases/2018/05-22-2018-210951050

In the past Frontier City was never included as part of the Six Flags season passes.....I’m hoping they will change that this time around.

Jay

Actually it WAS included in the Six Flags pass program, at least in 2004.  We drove across the country when we moved from CA to Florida and FC was one of our stops- and one that we most certainly used our Six Flags passes to get into on that day.  But I think they only did that for a couple of the years that they were part of the chain as a whole, and that most years it wasn't included.

it is rather interesting to see it and Darien Lake become part of Six Flags again.  Not sure if that's a good or bad thing yet.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on May 22, 2018, 07:07:13 PM
Well it’s not really “again” as it was owned by Premier then and then Premier bought the Six Flags parks.  This is a dramaticly different company.  I would imagine it’ll be called Frontier City a Six Flags Park.  Now the water park might  get branded a Hurricane Harbor. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 22, 2018, 11:00:03 PM
Well it’s not really “again” as it was owned by Premier then and then Premier bought the Six Flags parks.  This is a dramaticly different company.  I would imagine it’ll be called Frontier City a Six Flags Park.  Now the water park might  get branded a Hurricane Harbor.
 

I think White Water Bay will keep it's name if you look at the Logo at this White Water Bay in OKC and the one used at Fiesta Texas it's the same logo. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on May 23, 2018, 12:35:09 AM
Well it’s not really “again” as it was owned by Premier then and then Premier bought the Six Flags parks.  This is a dramaticly different company.  I would imagine it’ll be called Frontier City a Six Flags Park.  Now the water park might  get branded a Hurricane Harbor.
 

I think White Water Bay will keep it's name if you look at the Logo at this White Water Bay in OKC and the one used at Fiesta Texas it's the same logo.

Except for the fact that they recently branded the water park in Concord as Hurricane Harbor.  I feel they are streamlining their portfolio.  I could see the SFFT water park also changing over
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 25, 2018, 05:25:26 PM
According to NewsOK website Six Flags paid 23 million dollars to lease the 5 parks.  I'm still curious too see what they do with both Frontier City and White Water Bay.  Part of me is I'm afraid they will treat the park like a stepchild of the chain like it was last time it was under the Six Flags name.  Same with White Water Bay.  The other part of me is super excited maybe this time around will they expand both parks and grow it too fit the OKC Metro rapid booming economy.  Only time will tell but I'm happy to not having to buy two separate season pass it will save me more money in the long run.  I know it's business as usual this season. 

https://newsok.com/article/5595671/six-flags-discloses-price-tag-for-amusement-park-leases
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on May 25, 2018, 07:18:18 PM
Well FC is not La Ronde so you don’t have to worry about being the stepchild of the chain.  If anything look at what they’ve been adding to the other parks here lately and I imagine that’s what you can expect here in the future. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 25, 2018, 09:03:10 PM
Attack of the clones!...  I wouldn't be hurt if they add a tower ride a Skyscreamer or a Drop tower.  Coaster wise if they add a S&S Freespin,  Skyline Skywarp,  or even a RMC Raptor Track coaster.  Even some of the flats they have added to parks like a Zamperla Endeavor or a Giant Discovery Ride also by Zamperla.  It would be nice too see a clone. Please keep it a Wild West themed park.  DO NOT bring in DC comics or Looney tunes. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on May 26, 2018, 08:45:40 AM
Attack of the clones!...  I wouldn't be hurt if they add a tower ride a Skyscreamer or a Drop tower.  Coaster wise if they add a S&S Freespin,  Skyline Skywarp,  or even a RMC Raptor Track coaster.  Even some of the flats they have added to parks like a Zamperla Endeavor or a Giant Discovery Ride also by Zamperla.  It would be nice too see a clone. Please keep it a Wild West themed park.  DO NOT bring in DC comics or Looney tunes.

Aren’t they adding a drop tower this year?

I think it’s inevitable that DC/LT will show up at the park.  Maybe the kiddie area can be rethemed to LT?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on May 26, 2018, 04:40:51 PM
Magic Springs is getting the drop tower this year. Personally, I think it would be huge if we could get a copy of it next year.

FC is at the point where ANYTHING new is very welcome. The new zipline thing looks kinda tacky, but at least it's something new.

A clone coaster like an Iron Shark would go over extremely well here.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on May 26, 2018, 07:18:40 PM
Do they have a disk-o yet?  That’s probably a good guess on what’s coming
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 27, 2018, 10:15:51 PM
Do they have a disk-o yet?  That’s probably a good guess on what’s coming

The new Zip line doesn't look at all tacky it fits the area of the park. The riders will glide over main street and one end pretty close to guests underneath.  I saw it this weekend going to be a very popular attraction especially if they are going to have a 5 dollar up charge.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 27, 2018, 10:19:33 PM
OH and no more media circus events with Silver Bullet. The Park has now over the past few weeks installed a brand new cat walk that extends over the lift hill.  So they can now easily evacuate the ride safely without having to have the Fire Department harness guests and have them climb over seats. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on July 09, 2018, 11:36:10 AM
Apparently the rumor on the street is that the Tumbleweed may get taken out. That would free up a decent spot for a new flat.

It's one of the last classic rotors left, and they just got it fixed and working again a few years ago after SF let it sit dormant for awhile. It's probably past it's service life though.

I'm still holding out hope for a drop tower.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on July 09, 2018, 08:38:17 PM
It will be interesting to see how Frontier City does under the new Six Flags management. I'm thinking this time around will be better for the park because crazy investment isn't being done to smaller parks trying to make them into a Six Flags park.

I am hoping for continued development with a new attraction every year, and I'm excited to learn about the season pass opportunities in the future.

Jay.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on July 10, 2018, 07:49:41 PM
I could not remember what the tumbleweed was so I pulled up their website and could not find it.  So I googled it then remembered what it was.  While looking at the rides it listed Diamondback and Wildcat as temp closed.  Is that some sort of live update thing like the SDC app?  Or are those rides shut down for some reason?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on July 10, 2018, 09:51:07 PM
The Tumbleweed was a classic rotor ride. Basically a barrel that spun around on it's y-axis so you were pinned to the inside wall. The fact that it is no longer on the website is what is causing the rumor.

As for the other rides, I've seen scattered reports that they've been having issues with ride downtime on the major rides. Not good when most of the star attractions are down at an already attraction-starved park.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on July 10, 2018, 10:09:25 PM
Frontier City is my home park.  It's 20 minute drive for me.  I saw the screamscape story about Tumbleweed.  It's up and running I haven't seen it closed all season.  When I read the story about the ride I went up too the park too see for myself.  It's running with a line of riders.  It has become a popular ride with kids and pre teens and teens.   The floor still Drops and raises a few adults ride the ride.  I can't stomach these rides had a bad experience just watching it from the observation platform I felt those bad experiences coming back to haunt me.   

For the down rides  Wildcat been running they been taking it down on Monday's to work on the far turn around track.  For some reason when they cleaned up some of the trees this past winter it made that turn around unbearable to ride.  For the past 4 weeks they have closed the ride on either Monday or Tuesday to work on the track.  They have replaced alot of track on that turn around it is now alot smoother then it was at the beginning of the season. 

Diamond Back is awaiting a sensor from what I understand will back in operation sometime this week.  It broke down this past weekend. 

Gunslinger from what I was told is waiting on a part that has to be shipped in from overseas. That is why it has been down for this extended amount of time.  The park has posted a cartoonish sign that the ride operator is on vacation in Hawaii. 

The rest of the rides have been operational so far this season.  The train kept derailing so a few weeks this season it was reduced down to 2 cars.  This past week they put the 3rd car back on the train.   It's been running smoothly. 

The parks log ride Tunnel has had some theme-ing updates Music added and as the outside track area some extra wet things were added to splash you.    Also Renegade Rapids Theme line has some interactive theme-ing and Music added to the queue line.  Pretty entertaining and nicely done.

Starting this week and next  the Circus makes a stop at Frontier City with daily shows on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on July 11, 2018, 07:46:02 PM
I have not been to Frontier city for a couple of years, think it was year before last when we had season passes.  I may get them again next year and skip SDC, maybe.  I actually think their log ride is better than SDC.  At least they have some scenery to look at in the tunnel.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on July 11, 2018, 09:02:36 PM
I have not been to Frontier city for a couple of years, think it was year before last when we had season passes.  I may get them again next year and skip SDC, maybe.  I actually think their log ride is better than SDC.  At least they have some scenery to look at in the tunnel.

That is definitely true about the flumes.  It didn't use to be.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on July 15, 2018, 01:09:06 PM
Six Flags has made a recent change to the price It cost for parking at Frontier City. The recent increase went from $9 to $15. I asked a representive about the price increase they said it is expected to increase more during Fright Fest. It is expected too rise to $20 before the end of the season to be inline with the rest of the Six Flag’s Parks.
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Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on July 15, 2018, 07:12:25 PM
WOW!!   

Maybe we are spoiled?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on July 15, 2018, 09:19:04 PM
Quote
For the down rides  Wildcat been running they been taking it down on Monday's to work on the far turn around track.  For some reason when they cleaned up some of the trees this past winter it made that turn around unbearable to ride.  For the past 4 weeks they have closed the ride on either Monday or Tuesday to work on the track.  They have replaced alot of track on that turn around it is now alot smoother then it was at the beginning of the season. 


If it meant that part of the track is less shaded, it likely caused the wood to shrink with the added sun .
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on July 25, 2018, 09:53:17 PM
Six Flags started raising the prices recently it raised the parking from $9 too $15 Dollars at Frontier City. They also did this at White Water Bay it went from $7 too $15 dollars.   Today I was at the park and noticed all the menu screen turned off and the signs with prices of the food removed when I asked an employee about what I saw I was told that the prices on concession were going up this week. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on July 26, 2018, 08:16:20 PM
Parking is $26 at the big Six Flags Parks FYI

I wonder if my meal plan will work here or if I have to wait a year
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on July 26, 2018, 09:44:40 PM
Swoosh I emailed the park to find out about if the SF meal plan will be allowed to be used this season at Frontier City.   I'm still awaiting a response from the park.   I have a Frontier City meal plan the prices did go up a few dollars.  If you have a Frontier City meal plan you have a significant number of new meal options.  My favorite BBQ sandwich meal  has been added to what is now available with the meal plan.   Hopefully for Six Flag holders that soon you can use your dining pass. i
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on July 27, 2018, 08:26:37 AM
When they bought the park we were told that FC would be a $20 upcharge to visit so I’m guessing we are a year out still on being able to use our perks there. That’s fine.  There’s nothing really drawing me there yet but I’d be a nice stop on the way to Texas for a couple hours
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on August 03, 2018, 08:48:48 PM
This is interesting I was at the park and the Go-karts are walled off snd removed from the website? The area large enough for a small coaster?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on August 07, 2018, 09:49:01 AM
Definitely large enough for a small compact coaster. Not getting my hopes up yet, but it's a huge opportunity for them with one of the last easily develop-able areas in the current park. I have a feeling it will just be a haunt to bring the Halloween event up to SF standards.

There's a line of thought that SF has no interest in really building up the park. It's easier to focus on festivals/concerts/events to keep a steady local crowd while their real intention is to drive people into the SF membership system so they drive down to Dallas for the real coasters.

While FC will never actually compete with SFOT, if they added a new thrill coaster to FC it might be less enticing for some people to drive to Dallas. I think the only thing that would really drive development at FC at this point is competition. If someone else starts a new park in the OKC metro or even Tulsa... then SF would have to respond. Don't think that's going to happen within the next decade though...

At least we will see some ride replacements before long. The Zamperla Power Surge is already broken down constantly - just like it was at Magic Springs. Would not be surprised to see it replaced with something like an Endevour.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on August 07, 2018, 11:29:25 AM
I think they would be a perfect candidate for one of those new RMC Raptor coasters. Small footprint, big thrill!

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on August 11, 2018, 10:08:36 AM
Well "Shave the Whales" your thought about the park adding events to appeal to locals is spot on. I learned Friday that the park is adding an event "Oktoberfest" I'm not sure the dates.  Last time Six Flags had the park back in 2006 they started it the last two weekends of September and ended it the first weekend of October it overlapped that weekend with Fright Fest.  I will try too find out more details in the coming weeks.  I researched about the event and what it entailed when it was at the park last time.  It was like you expect out of Oktoberfest a German food and beer festival.   With German Music and dancing performances. Also note again the parking prices jumped up again by $5 dollars.  It is now $20 dollars to park in the lot.  I know the Parking Pass is $39.99 so if anyone visit  more then twice this season.  That is the best deal for you.   The park has 3 major events coming up now Oktoberfest, Fright Fest, and A Frontier Christmas.   
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on August 11, 2018, 03:27:06 PM
While FC will never actually compete with SFOT, if they added a new thrill coaster to FC it might be less enticing for some people to drive to Dallas. I think the only thing that would really drive development at FC at this point is competition. If someone else starts a new park in the OKC metro or even Tulsa... then SF would have to respond. Don't think that's going to happen within the next decade though...

Its my personal opinion but I really think the loss of Bells really killed the growth and expansion potential for FC. I would agree not to expect too much except maybe flat ride clones/replacements like what SF has been doing at their various parks already.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on August 14, 2018, 04:27:47 PM
Did a quick drive by of the park today - the go karts may be walled off, but all the karts are still on the track (in the station) and there isn't anything going on that I could see from the back roadway.

I'm still hoping for a Raptor coaster in that area.....

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on August 17, 2018, 11:20:46 PM
I’m going to just leave this here
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on August 18, 2018, 03:09:34 PM
I'm guessing they are gonna relocate that B&M stand up from SF America there.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on August 18, 2018, 04:29:34 PM
That would make me lol so hard. If it got converted to floorless in the process it would actually be an awesome addition though.

I'm keeping my expectations low. This is the chain that made a big deal about the worlds tallest super loop. Good thing FC already has one.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on August 18, 2018, 06:53:18 PM
That would make me lol so hard. If it got converted to floorless in the process it would actually be an awesome addition though.

I'm keeping my expectations low. This is the chain that made a big deal about the worlds tallest super loop. Good thing FC already has one.

Getting the states first B&M and the most significant addition since Silver Bullet would definitely garner a lot of local attention to say the least. Id have to look it up but isn't it bigger than SDC's Wildfire?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on August 18, 2018, 09:09:17 PM
That would make me lol so hard. If it got converted to floorless in the process it would actually be an awesome addition though.

I'm keeping my expectations low. This is the chain that made a big deal about the worlds tallest super loop. Good thing FC already has one.

Getting the states first B&M and the most significant addition since Silver Bullet would definitely garner a lot of local attention to say the least. Id have to look it up but isn't it bigger than SDC's Wildfire?

Um. :o No. 
Iron Wolf was the first B&M coaster built exclusively by B&M.  While it would probably be a major addition to FC it is far from a good ride. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on August 18, 2018, 10:45:03 PM
I was at the park today they have been working on Fright Fest.  One is a new photo op area called Shelter 28. I'm thinking it may have live actors the way it is done up.  The scare zone that is normally constructed in Wildcats infield is much larger they added a lookout tower to the scare zone.  Also a Zombie Hunt Paint Ball game was added to one of the game sections. Another sign Fright Fest is coming they did a Six Flags thing and dyed one of the pools in the park Blood Red. Here is photos I took today. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on August 19, 2018, 07:07:03 AM
Man!  they get serious about the Fright fest.... :o
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on August 19, 2018, 04:07:23 PM
That would make me lol so hard. If it got converted to floorless in the process it would actually be an awesome addition though.

I'm keeping my expectations low. This is the chain that made a big deal about the worlds tallest super loop. Good thing FC already has one.

Getting the states first B&M and the most significant addition since Silver Bullet would definitely garner a lot of local attention to say the least. Id have to look it up but isn't it bigger than SDC's Wildfire?

Um. :o No. 
Iron Wolf was the first B&M coaster built exclusively by B&M.  While it would probably be a major addition to FC it is far from a good ride.

LOL yeah finally looked them up to compare, granted I never rode it but maybe it could be an improvement if it were converted to a sit down or floorless like Shave suggested? For anyone else wondering, here are the specs: https://rcdb.com/6.htm and as it is currently: https://rcdb.com/10136.htm
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on August 19, 2018, 06:48:29 PM
Only reason I merely suggested it was that it is a rather compact B&M and if they did a floor less or even normal car conversion, it would a quarter of the cost of a new B&M. Let's rember that SF did not buy Frontier City but operating it under their umbrella. This would make them money by selling it to the actual owners.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on August 19, 2018, 10:58:44 PM

1958 when the park was created one of the Display features they have at the park till this day. That is Boothill Cemetery. Today I noticed the sign was missing from the fake Graveyard. I later learned that it was removed because it was racially offensive by the title "Boothill Cemetery". Mainly the term "Boothill" the park removed the sign because you know Six Flags they don't want to be the center of attention and or any controversy. "Boothill" which in the history of the term and has NO ties whatsoever with being racist or offensive. Here is the definition found online.

"Boot Hill, or Boothill, is the name for any number of cemeteries, chiefly in the American West. During the 19th century it was a common name for the burial grounds of gunfighters, or those who "died with their boots on".

My feeling I think the park should stand their ground and put the sign back up there is nothing offensive about the title of the cemetery. That has been part of the park since 1958. 60 years I think the sign needs to go back up maybe they should do a online poll if it stays or if goes. I don't know all I know there is nothing offensive about "Boothill"
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on August 20, 2018, 08:09:35 AM

1958 when the park was created one of the Display features they have at the park till this day. That is Boothill Cemetery. Today I noticed the sign was missing from the fake Graveyard. I later learned that it was removed because it was racially offensive by the title "Boothill Cemetery". Mainly the term "Boothill" the park removed the sign because you know Six Flags they don't want to be the center of attention and or any controversy. "Boothill" which in the history of the term and has NO ties whatsoever with being racist or offensive. Here is the definition found online.

"Boot Hill, or Boothill, is the name for any number of cemeteries, chiefly in the American West. During the 19th century it was a common name for the burial grounds of gunfighters, or those who "died with their boots on".

My feeling I think the park should stand their ground and put the sign back up there is nothing offensive about the title of the cemetery. That has been part of the park since 1958. 60 years I think the sign needs to go back up maybe they should do a online poll if it stays or if goes. I don't know all I know there is nothing offensive about "Boothill"

Likely so as to not be confused with a similar term as folks these days are often seeking to be offended. Example, wreaths with cotton bolls at Hobby Lobby.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on August 20, 2018, 08:17:22 AM
It's nice to see them stepping up the fright fest stuff. That's a huge money-maker, and will help the park continue to pull it's weight. Last time FC was in the chain, they barely did anything for fright fest that I remember. They've slowly added scare houses over the last decade. I remember thinking how awesome it was when they started setting up the second one. Now it sounds like there might be 4+? I'll have to head down there myself this year to check it out.

lol about boot hill. That's a stretch.

The big announcement sounds like it could really be something, but I'm still trying to keep my expectations low. I think it's probable that they have had something planned for the past couple years that is coming to fruition, but it is hard to say if the contract change affected anything. I think it's too soon for SF to have been involved in the process, unless it is just a smaller flat that they came onto like they did with the flyers. I could see them having bought a second drop tower like the one at Magic Springs...
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on August 20, 2018, 03:06:05 PM
Frontier City's big announcement can just be related to the Six Flags Family. Not many people even know that SF will be running them again - so they could announce the partnership and all the benefits of the season pass/membership and that would be a "Huge Announcement" in itself.

So I'm like you Shave, not getting hopes up very high. But I am excited that maybe a Frontier City pass would be good at all the SF parks.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on August 20, 2018, 05:24:17 PM
Frontier City's big announcement can just be related to the Six Flags Family. Not many people even know that SF will be running them again - so they could announce the partnership and all the benefits of the season pass/membership and that would be a "Huge Announcement" in itself.

So I'm like you Shave, not getting hopes up very high. But I am excited that maybe a Frontier City pass would be good at all the SF parks.

Jay

It clearly says ATTRACTION. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on August 20, 2018, 07:49:03 PM
They are getting the vintage mechanical bull from Urban Cowboy 8)
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on August 20, 2018, 09:03:34 PM
Apparently if you click the link in the email, the webpage specifically states that it will be a big new ride.

Still leaves some room for interpretation, but it's enough to get a little excited for.

Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on August 21, 2018, 04:46:40 AM
Sorry Swoosh, I guess I was jaded from past “attraction” announcements. But Shave is right, if you dig further, it actually says “New Ride”.

I’m still hoping for a RMC Raptor Clone (I guess an original would be okay too).

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on August 21, 2018, 10:34:29 PM
Maybe they will get Antique Cars. LOL if you have seen a certian parks announcement on social media and the TPR forums recently, you will get the joke.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on August 21, 2018, 10:56:17 PM
Maybe they will get Antique Cars. LOL if you have seen a certian parks announcement on social media and the TPR forums recently, you will get the joke.

You know you could have just Kings Island.  Let’s not play the entitled game here of “I’m in the club so I know things”

FTR. Most of the posters here are not whom they seem online.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on August 22, 2018, 08:51:35 AM
LOL...

So anyway,

My current list of ideas, thinking smaller and compact:


They just got a Zamperla powersurge a couple years ago, so I don't think they want another extreme thrill flat like the Harley Quinn thing at SFOT. All of these ideas would be thrill rides, but more approachable.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on August 22, 2018, 10:07:04 AM
Maybe they will get Antique Cars. LOL if you have seen a certian parks announcement on social media and the TPR forums recently, you will get the joke.

They once had a very nice Antique Car ride, but over the years it was moved, then the route was shortened to almost a laughable circle. So an improvement there would be welcome :-)

I think they have a pretty good selection of flat rides, but could use a drop tower to replace the long gone Hangman. The SFOT troika would be a fun and inexpensive addition and I'd love it if they would rework the return run of Wildcat and make it similar to what it was when it first opened.

But if they are going to make their announcement "Big" all they would need to do would be to relocate just about any rollercoaster from one of their SF parks and Oklahoman's would be excited. Name it Boomer Schooner and 75% of the state would think it was the best coaster in the world.....

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on August 22, 2018, 04:06:11 PM
I learned that with Six Flags if the park is not doing any type of teasing then they are not getting anything Spectacular.  That Six Flag Parks will start doing teases online and in the park if it is something large for the park.

 With Frontier City and the newly aquired parks Six Flags has to spend a lot of money to upgrade the computer systems  etc. Change all the operating expenditures. They took over management in June. So there was not enough time for them really get a large attraction.  My guesses and that is because of the timeline it will be a smaller family attraction. Maybe a drop tower or some other type of smaller ride.  Additional things They will do maybe  ride updates something like repaint Silver Bullet do a updated like they did at Magic Mountain with Revolution.  Diamond Back has the station roof that is sitting in the boneyard maybe the will spruce up its' station.  Stuff like that to the park.  Next season do something that will make Oklahoman's happy.   That is my prediction.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: KBCraig on August 23, 2018, 07:56:22 PM
Let’s not play the entitled game here of “I’m in the club so I know things”

Who are you, and what did you do with Swoosh?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on August 23, 2018, 08:59:43 PM
Let’s not play the entitled game here of “I’m in the club so I know things”

Who are you, and what did you do with Swoosh?

He's in that statement, KB.  Read it again, and you should appreciate the masterful use of subtle sarcasm.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on August 24, 2018, 06:32:30 AM
They just announced Holiday in the Park is coming to FC
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on August 24, 2018, 06:36:33 AM
Let’s not play the entitled game here of “I’m in the club so I know things”

Who are you, and what did you do with Swoosh?

He's in that statement, KB.  Read it again, and you should appreciate the masterful use of subtle sarcasm.

Sometimes I scare even myself with how fluent I am in sarcasm.  By the way this is year 13 for me in education, I’m guessing that’s how I became so well- versed
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on August 24, 2018, 07:05:04 AM
Let’s not play the entitled game here of “I’m in the club so I know things”

Who are you, and what did you do with Swoosh?

He's in that statement, KB.  Read it again, and you should appreciate the masterful use of subtle sarcasm.

Sometimes I scare even myself with how fluent I am in sarcasm.  By the way this is year 13 for me in education, I’m guessing that’s how I became so well- versed

Every bit helps.  Imagine how prolific you will be when you have 29 years under your belt as do I.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on August 24, 2018, 08:20:17 AM
Well, they already had a Halloween fest and the big addition for this year was already a Christmas fest, so now they just added standard SF names to both events. Honestly I'm worried SF will actually water down the Christmas stuff. At least they go hard for Halloween.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on August 24, 2018, 07:58:59 PM
They just announced Holiday in the Park is coming to FC

I don't see anywhere online about "Holiday in the Park"  They announced last season " A Frontier Christmas". I looked at FC website and that has not changed to HITP. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on August 24, 2018, 09:08:25 PM
I wonder if they will have the season pass sale for 2019 like Six Flags always do. Highly interested in getting some Gold passes on the cheap.

I got a code from Virgin Atlantic for signing up to their millage program. Only that the closest place they fly is ATL.
This give us a great deal on transferring and using points for their Premium Economy seats on the outbound hop across the pond. Direct to Manchester on a 747, chance for the kids to get a ride on one before they are gone, this far out even a seats up in the bubble can be had.

Anywho, we'll have to drive to ATL from MEM, I want to leave early and hit up SFOG for 5hr to 6 hrs and wear them out and head to Hartsfield. I figure we'll get there and be so hyped at 8.20am We'll head to either Blackpool and get there at opening and spend time there before heading to Alton Towers and the hotel and crash or head straight to Alton Towers get some park time in till the hotel room is a go and then crash.

I want to fly into a place close to a Six Flags or two. Thinking I might sneak in LA and hit MM and possibly Star Wars land  :o 8) I know I'll spend 8hrs to ride two rides but...……...
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on August 25, 2018, 01:17:31 AM
They just announced Holiday in the Park is coming to FC

I don't see anywhere online about "Holiday in the Park"  They announced last season " A Frontier Christmas". I looked at FC website and that has not changed to HITP.

Most of the time when I post something like this just take my word for it.  Here is the screen capture because you have issues using basic search functions apparently
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on August 25, 2018, 07:05:08 AM
Swoosh it won't be called that this year to much money spent on material for this year.  Maybe next year which I can believe because Six Flags is too busy catering to being "Politically Correct".  That is one reason I didn't like the Frontier City going back under Six Flags management.  One reason why I like Silver Dollar City they don't hide who they are if you don't like it then don't go too their park.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on August 29, 2018, 10:31:08 PM
Just a reminder that the announcement will happen early tomorrow morning.  In fact it’ll be posted when you wake up
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on August 30, 2018, 04:48:04 AM
Well,  You have too start somewhere in the park.  Why not the kids area.  It's going to be changed they better keep the little buildings!!  That is all I'm saying. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on August 30, 2018, 11:04:42 AM
It's a nice addition, and one of the bigger investments that SF has ever made into the park that I can remember. Definitely a good step for the park, and will continue to build their customer base and give them both an attendance and profit boost that could encourage further development.

However, a few nitpicks/worries, since we do that here:

There is a rumor starting now that Wildcat is on the chopping block. If it is being replaced with a new wooden coaster, that is something that has been on my wishlist for a long time. This is SF though... not getting my hopes up. I will be so pissed if we get a Free-Spin
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on August 30, 2018, 12:28:21 PM
Timber Town is already the name of the foam ball factory and with a large arch over the pathway it could be argued the entire kiddie land has been called Timber Town for quite awhile now
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on August 30, 2018, 06:38:00 PM
Hello everyone let me clear some things up I spoke with somebody from the park.  I'm excited and Shave The Whales no worries on some of your concerns.

The entire kids area is being touched everysingle attraction.  The rides being removed are the flying Dragons which didn't fit the park.  The Indian Canoes which I understand are an operation nightmare and the current Wild Kitty Coaster.  The new rides are all Zamperla rides.   The new kiddie coaster is a brand new Zamperla Family Gravity coaster.  The planes will I assume go where the Flying Dragons are located.  The Frogs will go where the outdoor area of the petting zoo.  The petting zoo which comes and goes will not be back next season maybe in the future in the indoor area.  The Barge which is the only used ride is coming from Six Flags Over Texas that will replace the canoes.  The whole area is getting a refresh every single corner.  The buildings are staying.  The area was called "Paul Bunyans Timber Town"  Paul Bunyan is being dropped and it will be just known as Timber Town.   

I'm excited for it because that area has not been touched since 1997 when the area opened up to the public.   It was showing it's age.   The new ride names are


 This is from the media press release

Frankie’s Mine Train, a family coaster as wild as the West itself;
Billy’s Frog Hopper, a fully interactive jumping ride that will take families up, down, and all-around;
Rocky's Ranger Planes, a classic spinning ride that will take kids to new heights, and;
Sheldon’s Sea Adventure, an innovative family ride combining a unique blend of rocking and whirling motions.


I also from the press release looked up the new Park President(GM) looks like he is from Six Flags Over Georgia.  His name is  Trevor Leonard. 

WildCat is not going anywhere it is staying for years to come   Also if you have noticed their website the will be open for two straight weeks the last week in December and the first week of January.  They also tacked the Black Friday Weekend for Holiday in the Park. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on August 31, 2018, 07:17:08 PM
Sounds like some nice additions.. obviously needed additions
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on September 04, 2018, 09:00:34 PM
Swoosh it won't be called that this year to much money spent on material for this year.  Maybe next year which I can believe because Six Flags is too busy catering to being "Politically Correct".  That is one reason I didn't like the Frontier City going back under Six Flags management.  One reason why I like Silver Dollar City they don't hide who they are if you don't like it then don't go too their park.

Your honor the prosecution would like to submit into evidence the following video supporting my claim
https://youtu.be/nP-nrwqW3IU

And at that, the prosecution rests its case
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on September 08, 2018, 09:07:16 PM
Swoosh you're silly...Thanks!     Today I was at the park they confirmed what rides will be removed from Timber Town.  They did it in a fun way.  here is images of the headstones.   
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on September 09, 2018, 06:46:39 PM
That is funny!  What a great idea.. ;D
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on September 09, 2018, 08:38:04 PM
That's taking a page from Kings Island and Cedar Point.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on September 09, 2018, 09:29:50 PM
That's taking a page from Kings Island and Cedar Point.

Or... maybe other Six Flags parks?  Most noteably SFA who did this to announce Appocalypse was leaving
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on September 09, 2018, 10:43:55 PM
I wonder how Membership/Season Ticket sales are going for Frontier City now that all the Six Flags parks are included. I know we changed our park to Frontier City on our membership, and several people I know in Tulsa bought passes that never had before either......I'm hoping this leads to a big fourth quarter for the park.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on September 10, 2018, 09:45:23 AM
Jay I don’t know but I feel it was successful I also know people here in OKC who got one or the other they wanted to check out Holiday In the Park and Fright Fest.  Saturday I went to the park and when I went to get my dining vouchers I waited in a long line. I was talking to a guy he got the membership for him his daughter. He hasn’t been to the park in over 10 years. With OKC proximity to Six Flags Over Texas. People here said what the heck I can take a weekend or day trip visit Over Texas. I feel this is a win win situation. People who were cautious this year I will think take advantage of the flash sale next year.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: okiebluegrass on October 11, 2018, 09:01:18 AM
Anybody at all interested in Frontier Christmas?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on October 11, 2018, 06:40:22 PM
Anybody at all interested in Frontier Christmas?

They changed their minds and it’s going to be called Holiday in the Park starting this year
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on October 12, 2018, 08:11:26 AM
Anybody at all interested in Frontier Christmas?

Yes, we were probably going even without season passes - but now that we have the SF season pass, we're definitely going to attend. We love going to the different Holiday events around the state. Always hitting up Rhema, Honor Height's and the Castle....so this will just add to the list of things to do here close.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on October 31, 2018, 05:24:50 PM
So I am currently debating on skipping SDC season pass this year and doing Frontier City.  It looks like their passes and/or membership now includes all or most other Six Flags parks.  I have not dug into prices and options yet but it seems like this might be something to seriously consider.  Anybody got any thoughts?  I have never been to a Six Flags park before.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on October 31, 2018, 07:47:16 PM
FC is pretty small. You can do the whole park in a matter of hours. It's nice, don't get me wrong, but it's more of a local OKC park vs. a major destination park like SDC. The coasters are OK, but nothing to write home about unless you are an enthusiasts who geeks out over a rare Schwarzkopf and one of the last Arrow shuttles. They have some shows, some of which are nice, but not on the level of what SDC does.

If you plan go to multiple parks using the discounts/membership it might make sense, but trading SDC for FC alone would be a big step down in experience. SFOT or SFStL are both decent parks to try to hit as well, more-so SFOT.

Personally I feel like almost every other park I visit is a bit of a let down after growing up with SDC. You rarely get the feel at most parks that you are in a warm, wholesome environment. It's usually just rides rides rides and lots of annoying teenagers. I can get being burned out of SDC after a few years though. Change can be good, but there's nothing else quite like SDC unless you head to Tennessee.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on October 31, 2018, 08:15:25 PM
We have had season passes to Frontier City for several years and and usually had passes to that as well as SDC at the same time.  Right now we usually go up to SDC at least once a month and usually do 2 days when we are up there.  This year it seems like when we go up there were are only there maybe 2-3 hours and we are done. 

I have not been back to FC in the last couple of years and now that they are part of Six Flags, I figured we could go to FC often as they are about the same distance as it is for us to go to SDC, plus hit St. Louis and Texas a few times during the year.

Looking on the FC site, it appears they are only selling the gold membership, but if you go thru the other parks you can get the higher levels if that is in fact worth messing with.  If I did it, I would probably also get the dining package as well, something I wish SDC offered
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on November 07, 2018, 05:31:24 PM
Okiebenz I have the Gold Level and dining plan at Frontier City.  I will upgrade to a higher level because of all the benefits that are offered at other parks.   I like SDC I do plan on getting a pass just because my wife and I  we   like their seasonal events.   Right now myself I plan on upgrading come January when FC will offer the upgrades.  Right now I pay 17 a month because I have both the Gold Membership that gives me access to all Six Flag parks.  The premium dining membership that was offered when I got my Gold membership.  The two together is 17 a month.  FC is now open 10 months of the year. with it now closing the first weekend of January.    There is rumors that it may open as early as March to coincide with Spring Break.   With the premium dining membership. I get lunch, dinner and snack.  I do visit Over Texas atleast 4 times a year.  Either St. Louis or Fiesta once a year.  Fiesta Texas will be open year around.   
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on November 07, 2018, 06:03:33 PM
The passholder announcements came out today in email. I'm more excited for Holiday in the park.  This past summer I was talking with one of the managers about the Christmas event. During that time I was told Wildcat  Silver Bullet, and Tumbleweed would be closed during the holiday event. The email I received today says Wildcat will be open for Holiday in the park.  This coaster is dynamic at night. One of the best night riding coasters.  Also in those announcements they stated the parks historic main street will be a show in itself.  There will be a 50 foot (5 story) Christmas Tree.  That will have it's own show that will be choreographed with the lights on Main Street for the tree lighting.   They are inviting church and civic groups to perform throughout the park.  Also they released some of the seasonal food offerings. Like Hot bread bowls Chili etc.  Seasonal treats From special funnel cakes, Holiday Cookies, Candy Apples, roasted nuts and Peppermint Fudge.  Santa's village etc.  most offering you find at other Six Flag Holiday in the Park events around the country.  Like the s'mores and Hot Chocolate.  Can you imagine flying over the 5 story Christmas Tree on Soaring Eagle.  Flying over the Christmas Lights.  no information on the shows.  I did here from significant sources that they will have a Christmas theme magic show.  That there may be a Christmas Themed gunfight show.  I'm getting excited to see what this park looks like for Christmas.  It's a smallpark so won't take millions and millions of lights to make an impact.  After reading that pass holder email I'm excited to check out this event.  Will post photos of my visit. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: okiebluegrass on November 14, 2018, 03:12:58 PM
I just accepted a part time job as front gate for Frontier City. My name is Kurt so if any of y'all see me out there feel free to introduce yourself :)
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on November 14, 2018, 05:53:44 PM
I am still debating on if I should get six flags passes instead of SDC, or in addition to SDC
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on November 15, 2018, 09:48:21 PM
Kurt  I will be there next Friday opening day.  I'll keep a eye out for you and say Hello.   Okiebenz I say get both but it is not my money.  Just nice if you have the Six Flags Pass.  depending where you live there is nearby Six Flag parks.   Less then a week and opening of the very first Holiday in the Park at Frontier City opens up to the public. I will be there without bells on but I'm ready for this Season long Holiday event. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on November 19, 2018, 08:44:56 PM
 Frontier City released their new Holiday in the Park show schedule this evening.  https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46451818_10156823398199907_5879047515046674432_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_eui2=AeENkdIOdplzhoDQKGNzEHYsyyjSxy9ZjTkSohsV6yzQkOFV4UORI-mlJT3m0wBdT8Ct5JF-PtWIBEgu1Yiy_IXCGAAduMgICzkklDaVsTBlow&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=10dd2db9b9ed8baef4f0b865de6f3864&oe=5C6E8E8D
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on January 12, 2019, 08:35:14 AM
Last weekend was the last day of Frontier City's operation for the 2018 season.  Also the last weekend Wild Kitty would operate at the park.  I don't know if the park is going to sell the Wild Kitty or scrap it.  There is no telling with that coaster.  I was able to ride the coaster with the Oklahoma Coaster Club and park employees after the park closed for the season.  The club rode first before we had to leave the park.  It was nice some of the folks in the club said how they rode the coaster when their kids were younger. Some of the kids in the club now upper teens and early 20's reflected on how it was their first coaster.   Nice to have a nostalgia ride even though it's a lackluster kids coaster.   I'm looking forward to seeing what Six Flags does with that section of the park.  It's not a small investment I heard it was in the ball park of a 12 million dollar remodel of that section of the park.  I would rather seen them spend 12 million dollars on a nice new coaster.  I do understand they decided to use this money to give the kids section a complete makeover.   Which I bet it increases their birthday party rentals.  The area is going to have a brand new Kids coaster a Zamperla family Gravity coaster, There will be one ride relocated the Airplanes The other two rides will be brand new  A kids Ferris Wheel instead of the Caddo Lake Barge which will stay at SFOT.  The hopping frogs.  All the play structures and existing rides Toms Toms swings, The tea cups,  Rio Grande will receive new looks to the rides.  Rumor the Rio Grande mini train will have a expanded track.  The whole area is getting a makeover.  Plus it will have meet and greet characters that the attractions will be based off in Timbertown.  Great Escape has a Timbertown. My guesses they are going to model this section like the one at Great Escape. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on January 12, 2019, 07:26:08 PM
When is the best time of the year to buy a season pass/membership?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on January 12, 2019, 07:29:16 PM
When is the best time of the year to buy a season pass/membership?

Labor Day Weekend.  It’ll be good for the rest of the year plus the following. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on March 10, 2019, 09:52:56 PM
I got some park updates from this week from a live video one of the park managers did this past week on the Oklahoma Coaster Club FB page.  The video since been removed because a contractor in the background used a not for safe internet word.  With the video representing the park the manager removed the video but will do more live videos before the park opening.  Now for what was shared on that video.

 I'm actually looking forward to the new Timbertown it is no longer going to be Paul Bunyan's Timbertown.   I had no idea how bad of shape the area was it was pretty much a patch job through the years. Now the area is getting a complete remodel. I like what Six Flags will be doing to the area.  New infrastructure new rides. Two of the rides are rides relocated from other Six Flag parks.  The Ferris Wheel and the Airplanes.  The existing rides and attractions in the area all being rethemed.  The kids train will have a new name and be longer.  The existing play structure is going to be completely redone and be called Hootie Treehouse.  The School house that is currently being used as storage.  They have plans for it and could not say at this time.  There is new landscaping and theme-ing and new custom walkways.  Not just pavement it will be decorative concrete walkways.  I'm actually impressed with the work Six Flags has put into area. 

They are reopening the game room that used to be next to the Pizza place.  The new party rooms have been constructed in the game room.  The games are already in place and set up and it looks nice.  The Chuck Wagon counter in Fort Frontier has been expanded and looks that they may have more registers added and where the registers were once located may be the Food Pick up.  The counter area looks like what you would see at the Big parks in their main food areas.   Also  in the video was a sneak peak at the set for the new country show in the Opera House.  It this has to be the most elaborate set that I seen at Frontier City.  It takes up the whole stage and the stage side of the Opera house.  It looks amazing and rustic.

There were some questions about Silver Bullet  One being a paint job, Another about the Greezed lighting trains and another if they were going to do any theming with the coaster.  He did say no too the paint job this season.  He heard something about the former Greezed Lightning train.  On a different note that fans of the park will be excited what they are going to do too the coaster then teased and said he could not tell us yet. That thing is not the Greezed Lighting Train.    My guesses they will turn the lights on in the tunnel they used during Fright Fest.  Either that in the past they mentioned about doing theming elements in the queue line and the coasters infield.  Maybe that will happen this season.     

The rest of the park updates were that they were working on a few building facades that needed to be refreshed, interactive theme-ing elements through out the park.  The log ride was getting new handrails. The new rails will have the rail closest to the canal track of the ride closed off so nobody (kids,or adults) can fall into the canal track.  New carnival games that he could not share.   Did ask about more food options but that is not an area he covers but could get with that department lead and find out for the next video.  He did find out about a new Funnel Cake that the park will introduce he was excited about he is not that big on amusement park food.   This one he said he will be purchasing on opening day.  The park will have Pepsi again this year since the park is still in a multi year contract with Pepsi.  He doesn't know the length of the contract.  If Six Flags will just honor the multi year contract out it could get expensive to renegotiate a contract.  You have to think besides FC there is 4 other parks with Pepsi so it could get pretty expensive to buy out of a contract and renegotiate a new contract.

Those are the updates that I found out this past week.     
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on March 17, 2019, 11:16:08 PM
Well I drove out to the park today and got out and snapped photos.  The biggest thing I noticed is the Ticket booth is being moved out 10 feet towards the parking lot.   The photo is not the greatest I did take off the property.   They were already setting up the kids rides.  They had the Kids swings and the new planes set in place.  Also the smaller Kid play structure is taller.  The tilt A whirl had shiney new domes. So pretty interesting all the work going on in the park besides the TimberTown. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on April 02, 2019, 10:33:36 PM
The all-new  2019 Six Flags Frontier City Map has been posted online at the Frontier City Website. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sirwillow on April 03, 2019, 09:04:26 PM
As it's turned out, we ended up with Six Flags passes after all this year.  So now I just have to figure out a way to make that 8 hour round trip out to Frontier City work.  Might make it out there after all.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on April 06, 2019, 07:39:43 AM
I may try to make a trip down there this year as well..  just to check it out..
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on April 06, 2019, 06:00:20 PM
I am still debating on buying passes for FC this year.  We have not been out there for a couple of years and have never been to a six flags park at all.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on April 06, 2019, 10:32:57 PM
Today I just don't know where to begin.  I was truly amazed what the staff of Frontier City pulled off in 3 months.  The money and time they sunk into that park in the 3 months I am truly and utterly amazed at what they did to the park in such a short time. From the change in the entry plaza to when I walked out of that park. HATS OFF to that team.  Most everything in that park is changed or had changes.  They didn't do it cheaply. They kept to what Jim Reed Anderson said keep the charm of the park. OH MAN !!That they did!! Where do I begin There is that much done to the park.  From Shows, To food, to Theme-ing elements as in step it up to Cedar Fair Knotts Berry Farm level theme-ing,  So many refreshes every square inch of the park had to be touched and WOW!!! Absolutely WOW!!!  I think I'm on board with Six Flags taking over this park. Just let me know what you want to see and I will make posts. I can't get all into this one Post. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on April 06, 2019, 10:39:54 PM
Um...photos?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on April 07, 2019, 09:36:44 AM
I’ll get them posted this week. I’m going to have to break them down by area. So many changess and photos.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sirwillow on April 08, 2019, 10:11:45 AM
Theme-ing elements as in step it up to Cedar Fair Knotts Berry Farm level theme-ing, 

I'm really hoping to be able to get over there this year, but wanted to touch on this- Cedar Fair had NOTHING to do with Knott's theming, except a decline in the overall quality of it.  Back when Knott's was independent the depth and quality of their theming was much greater.  Cedar Fair also has little to nothing to do with the Ghost Town days other than allowing it to happen and facilitating it a little bit.  The vast majority of that is done by a couple of outside groups that organize and bring it together.

I miss the old Knott's.  But I guess at least they haven't let the theming decline as much at Knott's as they did at California's Great America.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on April 25, 2019, 11:19:00 PM
I'm still having trouble getting photos uploaded of all the changes that happened at the park.  If you  do visit Frontier City this season you will be impressed on how much was done to the park.  Every square inch of the park was touched during the off season.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 04, 2019, 10:52:27 PM
Here is closer look at Frankie's Mine train at Frontier City's The parks 6th and newest Coaster. (Since we found out this past week through a membership park newsletter that Six Flags considers Brain Drain A Larson Looper is indeed a coaster and not a flat ride. ) The new Zamperla Family Coaster arrived a few weeks ago and is sitting in the parking lot wrapped up like a Christmas present. Construction of the ride I guess will take the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 04, 2019, 10:58:01 PM
Also Frontier City has added a lot of comforts like more shaded seating areas like this area next to the Go Kart entry.  Another thing I noticed around the park they added drinking fountains with the water bottle refill options. It's the small things, If you get a chance to see the park this season. The changes  Six Flags has made around the park is extremely impressive.  I wasn't expecting Six Flags to do this much work in the off-season to Frontier City.   
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 12, 2019, 10:16:33 PM
 The photo posted of that shaded section added to the Thunder road raceway go karts is a guest mobile device charging station with plenty of outlets next to the benches. They have USB plugs as well as normal plugs. The parks guest Wi-Fi is up and running in most of the park.  Very Fast speeds.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 12, 2019, 10:18:08 PM
Also the Go Fast Pass changed this week to a better looking more professional card. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 12, 2019, 10:21:14 PM
Wild West Water Works get a brand new updated more flashier entrance. Six Flag-ish type of entrance.  They built out on the Gift Shop entrance and repainted the building this past week.  I heard the interior will be getting some refreshes. Wild West Water Works opens up this coming Saturday.   
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sirwillow on May 13, 2019, 01:43:14 PM
Really looking forward to it now.  And now have a date on my schedule, and it would be awesome to see others add the same date.

Saturday, Aug 17 is Coasting for Kids day at Frontier City, a fund raiser for Give Kids the World, which provides lodging and support for kids on Make a Wish vacations (notably at GKTW Village in Kissimmee, Florida).  It's an awesome cause, well worth supporting.  I'm hoping to raise over $500 (honestly I'll be disappointed if I don't do a good chunk more than that) and would love to see other SDC Fans join in the cause.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on May 14, 2019, 07:53:41 PM
I still have not got season passes/membership yet.  At this point in the year I might be better off waiting until they open for next year.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 14, 2019, 08:34:42 PM
I still have not got season passes/membership yet.  At this point in the year I might be better off waiting until they open for next year.


They are open till the first week of January. Plenty of season left and you still have Fright Fest one of the longest running in the country.  The all new Holiday In The Park.  Which was extremely impressive this past year for it's first year. The Main street Christmas Light show was amazing show to watch.  It is not the level of SDC but still it is extremely impressive for the size of the park.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sirwillow on May 14, 2019, 09:16:03 PM
I still have not got season passes/membership yet.  At this point in the year I might be better off waiting until they open for next year.

Maybe.  Maybe not.  It'll likely be January when they have some sort of deal on the passes and memberships, which they won't now.  But I'd say it's also dependent on whether you plan to visit hte park this year or not.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on June 09, 2019, 12:09:15 PM
Finally made it out to FC yesterday for the first time in a couple years. As Kevin has so often reported, the park is really nicely spruced up and there are lots of new details everywhere.

The park was quite busy for just a random hot Saturday with no concert. There was one company outing there, but a lot of the crowd were just ordinary visitors. I remember when FC struggled to fill their small parking lot, but today it was evident how much they need to expand that thing. Most people were paying $20 to park way off in the grass area.

Once again though, I walked away after a few hours feeling like the park was in desperate need of a star attraction. Almost every ride in the park is old, worn-out, and short with very little "wow-factor". At least they have an awesome rapids ride.

The new kids area is awesome though. That is a great start for refreshing the park. Let's hope next year it continues in a big way.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on June 25, 2019, 06:58:27 PM
https://www.newson6.com/clip/14849446/multiple-injuries-reported-at-frontier-city-last-week
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on June 25, 2019, 08:15:03 PM
https://www.newson6.com/clip/14849446/multiple-injuries-reported-at-frontier-city-last-week

Hmmm? 

My first thought is, IF the gal riding the log ride ever comes to SDC..... I hope she doesnt ride FITH!!!

Sprain??? ===$$$$$$
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: KBCraig on June 26, 2019, 12:45:08 AM
https://www.newson6.com/clip/14849446/multiple-injuries-reported-at-frontier-city-last-week

Seriously? Wow.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on June 26, 2019, 11:08:58 AM
Those OKC stations can sensationalize anything.

Why aren't they reporting on every lawsuit for personal injury?

I'm guessing they only got this story because someone called them about it.  And who do you think that someone was?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sanddunerider on June 26, 2019, 11:53:20 AM
Those OKC stations can sensationalize anything.

Why aren't they reporting on every lawsuit for personal injury?

I'm guessing they only got this story because someone called them about it.  And who do you think that someone was?


LOL>>   
 
New Equation

Sprain + Publicity = $$$$$$
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on June 26, 2019, 04:37:14 PM
Yea, I agree it looks like somebody looking for a payday or something to me.  I will tell you this as a fact, my wife broke her tail bone on the log ride there a couple of years back.  When it came down the hill I guess she must have lifted up and when it hit the bottom slammed back down.  We never reported it or looked for fame, attention, or a payday.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: runner1960 on June 26, 2019, 05:10:37 PM
Yea, I agree it looks like somebody looking for a payday or something to me.  I will tell you this as a fact, my wife broke her tail bone on the log ride there a couple of years back.  When it came down the hill I guess she must have lifted up and when it hit the bottom slammed back down.  We never reported it or looked for fame, attention, or a payday.

Can I ask why you did not report it ? If not only to alert the PTB that maybe there was a malfunction or a bad transport vehicle. ? It could have kept someone else from being hurt, and recover any medical cost you may have had. Sorry, but I would have been looking to recover my medical costs for sure.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on June 26, 2019, 05:28:43 PM
I know this is the Frontier City thread and not the SFOT one...

But on the SFOT flume (the original flume - closest to Titan entrance) their final drop runs-out into a right turn into the station. We had a log full of people and flew down the drop and run-out.  Hitting that right turn hard. It flung me into the side of the log cutting my leg at my knee. It bled quite a bit for a while but I never reported it to the park. Just went to the bathroom, cleaned up and went on my day.

I guess I should have called a news crew.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on June 29, 2019, 11:13:26 AM
Yea, I agree it looks like somebody looking for a payday or something to me.  I will tell you this as a fact, my wife broke her tail bone on the log ride there a couple of years back.  When it came down the hill I guess she must have lifted up and when it hit the bottom slammed back down.  We never reported it or looked for fame, attention, or a payday.

Can I ask why you did not report it ? If not only to alert the PTB that maybe there was a malfunction or a bad transport vehicle. ? It could have kept someone else from being hurt, and recover any medical cost you may have had. Sorry, but I would have been looking to recover my medical costs for sure.

Lol, exactly. Broken bones and open wounds are worthy of reporting. Simply getting bumped around is another thing... People who aren't used to rides sometimes get freaked out to much. They would never survive Magic Springs.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on June 30, 2019, 08:01:21 AM
Change the subject I got a kick out of the little sign in my attached photo. Someone at the park installed the Wild Kitty tombstone to Frankie’s Mine Train ride. They did use the old Wild Kitty track to hold the mine cars in the theme-ing elements in the infield.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on June 30, 2019, 08:08:40 AM
You knew this was coming Ride Sponsorships check out the attached images. Steel Lasso is now sponsored by Takis! Plus Six Flag  advertisement boards popped up throughout the park. If they bring in a serious ride coaster then sponsor the rides. Make this park better please Six Flags.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sirwillow on June 30, 2019, 07:54:14 PM
If they bring in a serious ride coaster then sponsor the rides. Make this park better please Six Flags.

Remember, this isn't the first time that Six Flags has owned the park.  It could actually be debated that the current company that is Six Flags owned the park before it became Six Flags, as Frontier City was one of the parks owned by Tierco at the time it became Premier Parks and bought the Six Flags chain.  Believe it or not, Six Flags national HQ was even on the park property from 1998-2006, and they owned the park until 2007.  And Six Flags didn't add or do a whole lot with the park back then.

I hope that with the new management compared to when Six Flags last owned the park that it will be different, and they did do some pretty solid investments in the off season.  But I'll take a "wait and see" before I get to excited about Six Flags bringing in any major additions or changes.  :-)
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on June 30, 2019, 08:50:23 PM
Expect a major new flat ride every season.  Though let’s be honest, a used Boomerang would be big here. 
I see the following rides coming in the next few years (in no particular order)
Endeavour
Discovery (smaller model)
Disk’o
Chance Freestyle

Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on July 01, 2019, 08:36:28 PM
I really can't remember all the details.  From what I recall it was a few days later and it still hurt so she went to the Dr and they found the break. 

Yea, I agree it looks like somebody looking for a payday or something to me.  I will tell you this as a fact, my wife broke her tail bone on the log ride there a couple of years back.  When it came down the hill I guess she must have lifted up and when it hit the bottom slammed back down.  We never reported it or looked for fame, attention, or a payday.

Can I ask why you did not report it ? If not only to alert the PTB that maybe there was a malfunction or a bad transport vehicle. ? It could have kept someone else from being hurt, and recover any medical cost you may have had. Sorry, but I would have been looking to recover my medical costs for sure.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on July 02, 2019, 09:58:13 PM
Construction for Frontier City's 2020 attraction has now started markers and stakes showed up today at the park.  The markers have SF 2020 on them and they encompass a large area.  A park manager before the stakes showed up today.  Last week during the concert a Oklahoma Coaster Club member posted photos of markings in the concert area and later was shot down immediately on their post that it was for a "French Drain".  This time around no manager quickly chimed in with a response.  to the large area staked out with numbers spray painted on the ground.  The stakes have SF 2020 some have numbers on the ones you can see have 165'.   I'm now going to label this mystery 2020 project  "French Drain" .   
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on July 03, 2019, 07:38:15 AM
Construction for Frontier City's 2020 attraction has now started markers and stakes showed up today at the park.  The markers have SF 2020 on them and they encompass a large area.  A park manager before the stakes showed up today.  Last week during the concert a Oklahoma Coaster Club member posted photos of markings in the concert area and later was shot down immediately on their post that it was for a "French Drain".  This time around no manager quickly chimed in with a response.  to the large area staked out with numbers spray painted on the ground.  The stakes have SF 2020 some have numbers on the ones you can see have 165'.   I'm now going to label this mystery 2020 project  "French Drain" .   

Photos or it didn’t happen
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on July 03, 2019, 10:33:58 AM
These photos were posted by Ryan Banks on the Facebook group Oklahoma Coaster Club. These are not my photos...

The area these are taken is around the old nightmare building, the train car, picnic pavilions, and winged warrior. There is news of paths now being closed in the park. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on July 03, 2019, 08:58:53 PM
I sure wish they had not gotten rid of the nightmare mine, or at least put another coaster in there.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on July 04, 2019, 08:53:11 PM
I sure wish they had not gotten rid of the nightmare mine, or at least put another coaster in there.

Do you think a clone of Adventureland’s new Phoenix would fit in there?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on July 05, 2019, 04:13:00 PM
I have no idea, I am not familiar with that ride.  As to the nightmare mine, I rode it way back in the early 90s. probably around 93-94 and only vaguely remember it, but what I do remember it was great.  I did not return to FC until maybe 5 or so years ago by which time it was gone.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on July 05, 2019, 08:26:55 PM
I have no idea, I am not familiar with that ride.  As to the nightmare mine, I rode it way back in the early 90s. probably around 93-94 and only vaguely remember it, but what I do remember it was great.  I did not return to FC until maybe 5 or so years ago by which time it was gone.

I, too, rode Nightmare, but when you're next in line and you see the track being held together with duct tape, you tend to question the intelligence of the maintenance crew.  Nightmare was a coaster before being enclosed and renamed.  The sign paid homage to the old name.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on July 05, 2019, 09:08:10 PM
I have no idea, I am not familiar with that ride.  As to the nightmare mine, I rode it way back in the early 90s. probably around 93-94 and only vaguely remember it, but what I do remember it was great.  I did not return to FC until maybe 5 or so years ago by which time it was gone.

I looked it up and all it was was a SDC Galaxi Coaster.  Standard off the shelf.  Meaning that a Maurer SC2000 like the new coaster at Adventureland, could fit in there easily.   
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on July 05, 2019, 10:47:13 PM
Before I head to bed I outlined the markers for Frontier City 2020.  The red dots are where I spotted the markers.  I outlined the area. Then there is two other spots I figure run from the power station that is in the Building. Looks Like Soaring Eagle will be removed/ or moved for the 2020 attraction.   My guesses is the SkyWarp Eclipse or even a small coaster in the area. You can see it is a rectangle shape.  Not in a square shape used for a Star Flyer.  Will be interesting if the whole section of the park has to be changed for this attraction it makes sense for them to start construction now for 2020.  Those markers are indeed for the 2020 attraction.  Big news for this small park. I've been calling the project "French Drain"  That is what I've been told by the park employees. The stakes have SF2020 165'   All kinds of markings in the area on the ground.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on July 07, 2019, 04:19:39 PM
I wish they would put another coaster in there.

I looked it up and all it was was a SDC Galaxi Coaster.  Standard off the shelf.  Meaning that a Maurer SC2000 like the new coaster at Adventureland, could fit in there easily.
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Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on July 07, 2019, 11:31:25 PM
A coaster like Spider at Lagoon would fit inside the footprint of the building.  The coaster costs 3 million Dollar add that and a Skyscreamer for 2020.  They still would be under 5 million dollars.  I know it's clone and off the shelf coaster.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on July 15, 2019, 08:48:03 PM
I'm torn on what Frontier City will be getting next season.  They are getting a new attraction there is a lot of rumors and not so clear evidence.  But what I can dig up I think the park is getting a new coaster in part of the  the concert/picnic grounds. That section will be reworked out for the new attraction. The Amphitheater would be a lot smaller and more stadium like layout. The Winged Warrior may be moved for this attraction to a new location in the park.  The construction will start as soon as the last concert of the season finishes that is King and Country on August 24th. I can see them doing this they reworked Timbertown and completely overhauled that area of the park.  So they could be taking sections at a time.  It's just hard to say can't make anything out on what is happening at the park for 2020. If they start construction end of August that should by time frame for a medium coaster bring it opening up during the summer of 2020. It is something to watch in the next month.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on July 15, 2019, 09:13:33 PM
I think a clone of Tantrum at Darien Lake would be perfect for a park of this size. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on July 24, 2019, 05:34:51 PM
https://kfor.com/2019/07/24/frontier-citys-silver-bullet-stuck-again/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=5d38ca6d595b5a0001c301c1&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on July 24, 2019, 09:55:24 PM
Must have been a ridiculously slow news day in Oklahoma for them to report that Silver Bullet was stuck on the brake run. Not on the lift as usual, but the brake run that is like 3-feet off the ground.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on July 25, 2019, 02:22:07 PM
Yea, no kidding.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on July 25, 2019, 09:26:56 PM
I'm curious how they even heard about it. Do people just ring up the news stations now whenever a ride stops? It sounds like it was sorted out very quickly without incident. Hope SF starts putting some pressure on the news stations to stop this nonsense. I can almost understand having a news story if a ride is stopped way up on a lift for any great period of time, but even that was pushing it.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on August 26, 2019, 02:33:45 PM
Driving this morning and on the radio Frontier City advertisement came on for the start of the 2020 Season Pass Flash Sale.  In that advertisement clear as day White Water Bay getting a name change for 2020.  WWB name is getting changed to Six Flags Hurricane Harbor Oklahoma City.  So this tells me the major capitol money is going to White Water Bay for 2020.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on August 26, 2019, 03:25:57 PM
Driving this morning and on the radio Frontier City advertisement came on for the start of the 2020 Season Pass Flash Sale.  In that advertisement clear as day White Water Bay getting a name change for 2020.  WWB name is getting changed to Six Flags Hurricane Harbor Oklahoma City.  So this tells me the major capitol money is going to White Water Bay for 2020.

Finally!  The change to WWB was always a ridiculous choice.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on August 26, 2019, 04:10:23 PM
Like I said on TPR, I hope they pour money into both parks. WWB is old and tired just like FB. Both parks have so much potential, but have been absolutely slept on for decades. It's been driving me nuts how Oklahoma has so little in the way of proper amusement/water parks. WWB should be at least twice the size that it currently is, and FC could be a lot bigger.

I can understand them being a little careful not to over-invest into FC since they don't want to cannibalize SFOT attendance, but water parks are usually patronized by locals almost exclusively. Few people are going to drive down to Texas for a water park, or vice versa. It makes sense to really build it up into a park that better captures the market of the 2+ million in the surrounding area.

As for FC, hopefully they get something new as well. They really need to be thrown a bone. A new starflyer, as some have speculated, would go a long way.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on August 26, 2019, 08:56:26 PM
Driving this morning and on the radio Frontier City advertisement came on for the start of the 2020 Season Pass Flash Sale.  In that advertisement clear as day White Water Bay getting a name change for 2020.  WWB name is getting changed to Six Flags Hurricane Harbor Oklahoma City.  So this tells me the major capitol money is going to White Water Bay for 2020.

So when is the pass sale supposed to start?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on August 26, 2019, 10:25:49 PM
Presale is already happening, but they’ll go on sale to the general public Thursday morning after the announcements
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on August 28, 2019, 06:54:59 PM
I am trying to decide between a season pass and a membership.  It looks like if you do the lump sum season pass and add dining it is overall cheaper. But, if I understand it correctly, if you do a membership you are paying throughout the entire year but you lock in the price, so if price goes up price is the same.  Their site currently says flash sale going on now.  Will there be cheaper prices tomorrow?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on August 29, 2019, 08:08:18 AM
In 1981 Herschend Family Entertainment expanded outside Branson MO for the first time. They built a large water park in the Oklahoma City Metro area called White Water Bay. That name stayed when Six Flags bought the park in the 90's.  It continued to stay White Water Bay as the park saw numerous owners up and till today. Any ties that park had from the Herschend's era is now gone.   Six Flags now manages the park again and this morning announced the park is being re-branded with a new name. Six Flags Hurricane Harbor  Oklahoma City.   A new slide complex will be added to the park with park wide upgrades and additions for the 2020 season.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on August 29, 2019, 09:52:37 AM
In 1981 Herschend Family Entertainment expanded outside Branson MO for the first time. They built a large water park in the Oklahoma City Metro area called White Water Bay. That name stayed when Six Flags bought the park in the 90's.  It continued to stay White Water Bay as the park saw numerous owners up and till today. Any ties that park had from the Herschend's era is now gone.   Six Flags now manages the park again and this morning announced the park is being re-branded with a new name. Six Flags Hurricane Harbor  Oklahoma City.   A new slide complex will be added to the park with park wide upgrades and additions for the 2020 season.

Actually the "Bay" part of the name was added when HFE sold it.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on August 30, 2019, 08:32:35 AM
It's great that WWB is getting some attention and investment. Hopefully it's more than just this new slide a few sign changes. Just like FC, WWB has been ignored for far too long and is way below it's potential.

I am disappointed that FC gets nothing once again though. A cheap flat would have gone a long way here. I see no reason why they should continue with the on/off years when the new Timber Town shows how much impact new rides have on attendance. The last major, non-upcharge new ride that wasn't a direct replacement was back in 2008, and arguably that was also a replacement for two rides. I don't know how far back you have to go to find the last major addition that didn't replace anything.

I don't want to get all whiny park fanboy here, but at some point it just defies basic business sense. Unless of course, the plan is to simply keep FC on life support and direct traffic down to Dallas as many have suspected.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on August 30, 2019, 10:29:29 AM
I'm hopeful that what we'll see this next year is continued infrastructure improvements to the park. They could have thrown a bone in the announcement that just said "At Frontier City in 2020 we'll be focusing on a better customer experience with more food choices, amenities, and ride time" - which would have brought me more excitement that just silence.

But if you look at what the "Big" Six Flags parks received - only two received what I would have described as "Six Flags" type rides. SFOT and SFGAdv. The others pretty much received very small additions or additions to their water parks.

Maybe SF sees "Oklahoma City" as one park location even though they are on two different sides of the City. If next year comes and we see no physical improvements in Frontier City - I'd then start to panic. But I think you'll see the ride improvements jump between these two parks each year.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on August 30, 2019, 07:05:13 PM
It's great that WWB is getting some attention and investment. Hopefully it's more than just this new slide a few sign changes. Just like FC, WWB has been ignored for far too long and is way below it's potential.

I am disappointed that FC gets nothing once again though. A cheap flat would have gone a long way here. I see no reason why they should continue with the on/off years when the new Timber Town shows how much impact new rides have on attendance. The last major, non-upcharge new ride that wasn't a direct replacement was back in 2008, and arguably that was also a replacement for two rides. I don't know how far back you have to go to find the last major addition that didn't replace anything.

I don't want to get all whiny park fanboy here, but at some point it just defies basic business sense. Unless of course, the plan is to simply keep FC on life support and direct traffic down to Dallas as many have suspected.

I would base my expectations on what will happen at FC along the lines of what SF does at the Great Escape.  Very similar sized parks and markets.  If you read the rumor boards, the park is planning to do upgrades to the concert area.  There was also some officials checking out the old Nightmare building.   I’d say long term plans are being constructed but the infrastructure needs major work to get it to a place where large capex additions can be made and the park would be able to handle the extra foot traffic. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sirwillow on September 01, 2019, 05:17:34 PM
It's great that WWB is getting some attention and investment. Hopefully it's more than just this new slide a few sign changes. Just like FC, WWB has been ignored for far too long and is way below it's potential.

I am disappointed that FC gets nothing once again though. A cheap flat would have gone a long way here.

Outside of a couple of exceptions, most of the Six Flags additions this year and very unimpressive.  St. Louis is essentially getting an larger version of an upcharage attraction, and they haven't had anything new of note in a long time.  There are a few parks that really aren't getting anything.  So FC isn't alone in that.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on September 03, 2019, 01:22:43 PM
I had the opportunity to speak with a manager this past weekend.  Tumbleweed is being removed this off season. There is plans for that area next season.  It may or may not involve a ride. He cannot say at this time.  Tumblweed had some major issues earlier this season that caused the ride extensive damages.   The cost to repair Tumbleweed is very expensive. There is a possibility that a attraction will replace Tumbleweed.  Those plans sound like a 50/50 chance we may see an announcement soon if that is true. The park set up a Fright Fest Funeral Viewing of the rides sign. Pretty clever photo I'll share with you in the attachments. 

I know a lot of fan boys were disappointed with the news about the park not getting anything in 2020.  I learned that the park itself has been and will continue to have major money spent on park infrastructure.   I was told that fan boys will be very happy in an upcoming season. Not 2020 but beyond 2020.   I don't know if that hint is in fact a hint too a coaster? What would fan boys want the most for their park? 

 White Water Bay was already scheduled to get the major capital expense. Which it will get that attention besides a very expensive slide complex a new name and park wide upgrades according to the press release.  It's a significant amount of money that will be put into White Water Bay.  Frontier City will also be getting a number of infrastructure upgrades that will go unnoticed like it did the past season.  Guest's will notice next year those changes but they are not changes noteworthy of being put in a attraction announcement video.

Frontier City was inline to get something but the park declined to wait till 2021 it wants to get the park set up for a larger capitol project.  The park was impressed on how much Six Flags and EPR spent with the complete overhaul of Timbertown, the upgraded Kitchens, Ride upgrades and other park enhancements they were actually impressed and it has paid off the two parks here have seen a significant growth in attendance this past season.

Fright Fest will be a lot larger of an event the details will be out soon,  They are bringing back fan favorites.  Holiday in the Park this year according to the newsletter has a larger budget and being expanded one of the newest attractions for HITP is Ice Skating. 

I feel good after talking with manager on how Six Flags will be handling this park this time around then it did the last time it was under the Six Flags umbrella. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on September 03, 2019, 05:43:20 PM
Even a cloned or relocated B&M would do wonders for this park. Question is will it come at the expense of Silver Bullet.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on September 03, 2019, 07:20:48 PM
Even a cloned or relocated B&M would do wonders for this park. Question is will it come at the expense of Silver Bullet.

This park doesn’t need a B&M sized coaster, it doesn’t have enough draw for that size of capacity.  Now a clone of Iron Shark like what Darien Lake did would be an excellent fit
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on September 03, 2019, 11:04:49 PM
I wouldn't take Silver Bullet away.  They have a big area back part of the Amphitheater where one of the picnic pavilions and large grassy area is that used to house a small playground that location is large enough for a Darien lake Tantrum type of coaster.   They also can take out that Nightmare building and place  a coaster in that area.  I think a balance of coasters 3 on the south end of the park. (Wildcat, Silver Bullet, and Steel Lasso)  Then add one on the North end will place 3 coasters on the opposite end of the park.  (Diamond Back, Frankie's Mine Train, and future coaster)  That's my prediction.  I feel a small family flat ride might be replacing Tumbleweed.  It will be a relocated ride from another park is my speculation.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on September 04, 2019, 04:11:11 PM
This park doesn’t need a B&M sized coaster, it doesn’t have enough draw for that size of capacity.  Now a clone of Iron Shark like what Darien Lake did would be an excellent fit

True. I was just thinking like something along the size of one of the smaller standup B&M's like Vortex or the former Apocalypse coaster that was converted to a sitdown floorless. I doubt they would invest in anything extravagant.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on January 10, 2020, 03:08:27 PM
Kemot was saying on another forum that FC has cleaned out the boneyard and is preparing for a major expansion in the coming years. I hope this turns out to be true. Really anything at this point would be more than welcome.

Sounds like the park was fairly busy over the past year, and the Christmas event was a hit. SF should have realized the potential of the park by now, and the undeserved market. With WWB/Hurricane Harbor getting done this year, FC is once again primed for something big. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Jaykethekid on January 20, 2020, 08:00:46 PM
It's also worth mentioning that the old abandoned hotel to the north is being leveled and completely removed. Local permits show that it is indeed Six Flags and Frontier City who are doing the work. On top of the boneyard cleanup, it seems that they are extremely interested in freeing up as much land as possible. What they're gonna do with all the land the own is beyond me. But i wouldn't be shocked to see some parking expansions in the park's future. The main lot was filled for most of my visits to FC this year, so its a reasonable expansion for them.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on January 27, 2020, 11:27:20 PM
Going to a off season tour of the park this coming Saturday.  Going to ask a lot of questions with all the work I saw going on in the park the past few months.  So much work everywhere that I have a lot of questions to ask  this weekend.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on February 01, 2020, 08:40:54 AM
Now that this park is part of SF I plan on stopping in on my way down to Texas for spring break.  Excited because it’s been awhile.  What’s the best place to eat at in the park? I having SF Dining. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Jaykethekid on February 03, 2020, 12:37:17 PM
As far as food goes, you have a lot of options around the park to choose from resturaunt and stand wise. But unfortunately, every resturaunt seems to sell the exact same food. Chicken Tenders, movie theatre style nachos, frozen burgers at some places etc. Usually when i visit, i just eat outside of the park because the choices are very poor in park.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on February 03, 2020, 11:16:22 PM
As far as food goes, you have a lot of options around the park to choose from resturaunt and stand wise. But unfortunately, every resturaunt seems to sell the exact same food. Chicken Tenders, movie theatre style nachos, frozen burgers at some places etc. Usually when i visit, i just eat outside of the park because the choices are very poor in park.

I was thinking Saddlerock Cafe.  They have pulled brisket sandwiches
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on February 09, 2020, 07:48:02 PM
I recently joined up with the Oklahoma Coaster Club to attend Frozen Frontier.  I Learned stuff about what Frontier City does in the off season. Some photos I can't share because Six Flags has certain rules when rides are being worked on during the off season. They like to have a pristine image and I don't blame them it's more fun when you see the park in a complete state then in a construction project mess. The amount of work that is being done is impressive in all areas of the park. 60 year old park it needed a lot of infrastructure work this season. That is the big reason there was no Big 2020 attraction announcement. The capitol funds are being spent to upgrade the property. These upgrades will pave the way for those larger attractions and a longer operating season.

Some questions were answered first off Testing of Gunslinger is expected this week. The ride is expected to be open during Spring Break. Also the same for Sheldon's Balloon Race in Timbertown. Renegade Rapids is getting work in the Theme areas as well as electrical upgrades. Same with Prairie Schooner and Sidewinder. Sidewinder is also getting some cosmetic updates. There was a lot of noticeable changes you will see when the park opens for the season as you walk around the park.

Diamond and Diamond Elite will not have a lounge area like the larger parks. They don't have a location at this time. Pepsi is staying this year as will Dr. Pepper and Mt. Dew. Pizza Shop and BBQ spot are switching locations.

It was interesting and fun getting in areas that are normally restricted areas. Like the Infield of Coasters and Flat rides. I'm very proud the direction the park is going in for the future. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on March 01, 2020, 11:23:54 PM
A much needed long overdue addition is being added to Diamond Back. A station roof is being added to the coaster. FINALLY!, relief from the heat. No more baking in the sun.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Jaykethekid on March 02, 2020, 11:13:01 AM
Only took 27 years! Much needed addition without a doubt. Im glad it's also a fully fabricated roof and not some canvas / cloth attatched to poles. Seems like it will last!
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on March 03, 2020, 02:02:52 PM
Excellent. That also implies that the Diamondback is staying for the foreseeable future. I was thinking they might eventually scrap it for not only maintenance reasons but also to fit in a bigger coaster.

Looking forward to seeing the improved Renegade Rapids.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on June 07, 2020, 12:55:50 AM
Opening day 2020!!  Oh man has it been a long off season so it was great to get back into a park and ride a coaster.  First off Post COVID Six Flags has done a great job with the new state of the art technology moving guests through park entry.  It was amazing just to keep on walking only place I had to wait was to get my Pass scanned for entry. 
I'm going to start out with park when you arrive to the park you have to have proof of your reservation and you show that to the parking lot attendant before they can scan your pass/membership for parking or if you had to purchase parking prior to going you would show them your bar code on your parking voucher.  When you parked your vehicle and exited you would enter the park this time with your mask on your face as you walk through the new temperature building the first small building they check you for high temperatures with out using a thermometers.  Once you exit the temperature check you will come up to security which they now have you slowly enter the park without having to remove your jewelry or belt or have your bag checked.  the new security is now a snap you just walk right into the park.  Just all around awesome operations, The mobile ordering is new this year and that is awesome experience to be able to order on your phone and shortly afterwards you can just walk up to the counter and pick of your meal.

There were a lot of upgrades all around the park some you don't notice and other things you will notice the park looks amazing clean and they went back to keeping the charm of the park.  You don't notice annoying product advertisements in the park. They worked on some more theme-ing. It's like they want to turn Frontier City into the Knott's Berry Farms of the Six Flags parks.  I wouldn't complain if that is their goal with the park.  I will do a full picture tri report in the near future.   
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Okiebenz on June 07, 2020, 04:25:46 PM
So what everyone wearing a mask the whole time?  What about on the rides?
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on June 07, 2020, 08:01:33 PM
I went today and guests were doing pretty well with mask wearing for the first hour the park was open. After that masks started to hang around necks or disappear completely.  I found that unless the guests were right up on each other they were not wearing the masks properly at all. Park associates were also starting to have their masks down under their chins around 3pm unless there is a guest (or authority) nearby and then they would snap a back up. I think this will be par for the course with the Six Flags parks and quite honestly probably even with SDC
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Jaykethekid on June 08, 2020, 01:53:35 PM
To be fair, that seems to be how people are with masks at any place really. Unless it's somewhere that will kick you out at the sight of you not wearing your mask, people don't really seem to care. Though, if you really aren't near anyone, it seems reasonable to be able to temporarily take off the mask. I know they have the covered area by Wildcat setup as a designated spot for people to be able to remove their masks. Did it seem to be getting much use? Regarding employees, having talked to a friend of mine who is a operator there, they're being told that they are allowed to remove their masks while a ride is in motion given that they aren't interacting with any guests. Doesn't seem like a bad idea as it balances safety in regards to possibly spreading the virus and preventing additional heat fatigue from wearing a mask.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on June 08, 2020, 04:28:19 PM
To be fair, that seems to be how people are with masks at any place really. Unless it's somewhere that will kick you out at the sight of you not wearing your mask, people don't really seem to care. Though, if you really aren't near anyone, it seems reasonable to be able to temporarily take off the mask. I know they have the covered area by Wildcat setup as a designated spot for people to be able to remove their masks. Did it seem to be getting much use? Regarding employees, having talked to a friend of mine who is a operator there, they're being told that they are allowed to remove their masks while a ride is in motion given that they aren't interacting with any guests. Doesn't seem like a bad idea as it balances safety in regards to possibly spreading the virus and preventing additional heat fatigue from wearing a mask.

I realize the mask requirement by these parks is a "CYA" policy to satisfy the lawyers, but it really is ridiculous.  Like I have stated over on Facebook in several "discussions" my plan is to always have a full drink bottle in hand that I "nurse" while enjoying the park.  This seems to be the loophole on getting around wearing the mask.  I had my gaiter on when in close quarters (in queues) but for the most part it was around my neck - and I wasn't the only one.  The whole "work smarter, not harder" way of thinking -- and no one blinked an eye
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on June 13, 2020, 06:07:48 PM
Anyone know about this ride at FC?  This is in a flea market off of 65 around Ozark.

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Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on June 13, 2020, 09:26:10 PM
There used to be a kiddie canoe ride there.  I think Holiday World still has one
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on June 19, 2020, 11:49:00 AM
I help run Frontier City Thrills there is a couple of guys who know the history of the park more then I do it could be a prop from the Lost River Ride?  They used tubs on that ride.  If I ask can I use the photos one of those guys could probably answer the question on the canoe.   The canoe ride they did have was much smaller canoes for a child.  This looks to hold an adult.  If you don't mind If I can post those photos on Frontier City Thrills. 
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: History Buff on June 19, 2020, 02:53:21 PM
I help run Frontier City Thrills there is a couple of guys who know the history of the park more then I do it could be a prop from the Lost River Ride?  They used tubs on that ride.  If I ask can I use the photos one of those guys could probably answer the question on the canoe.   The canoe ride they did have was much smaller canoes for a child.  This looks to hold an adult.  If you don't mind If I can post those photos on Frontier City Thrills.

Use away.  I wasn't even sure it was a water ride, figuring it could have even been from an old flat ride.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on October 31, 2020, 04:14:57 PM
Since the New CEO took over Six Flags I had my reservation on how much a park would change. Frontier City the past year has been totally flipped from what it was like a year ago.  The amount of work put into infrastructure of the park is very noticeable.  They had to upgrade plumbing and electric through out the whole park. It's still going while the park is open.  Every ride has been getting refurbished and upgraded like the park.  Some stuff is noticeable some not so noticeable. But it's making a Huge difference in the parks overall experience.   The park is doing it in way to not take away the parks theme-ing. The electrical junction transfer areas are being disguised as homesteads or old west businesses that just popped up on the property.  Like a new resident moved into the City.   Well done with detail to keep the park theme.  The rides themselves have had updates with lighting packages,
 control boards and mechanical upgrades. SO far the down time of rides really has been effected by weather then mechanical.    Diamond Back the station got alot of upgrades cosmetically also  the coaster is much smoother when it launches.  Silver Bullet the operator now has more control of the Coaster train when it's in the break run to the station.   Also Silver bullet has a new lighting package that high lights the coaster nicely at night. As well as some theming to the sign with a interactive feature.  Also Renegade Rapids got a complete overhaul that the ride has fresh theme-ing and theme elements that have not worked on the ride will once again work come next season.   The log ride is getting rethemed and had many upgrades this past season. Like the drop hill now once again has running water.  The tunnel has a new Surprising element in one of the tunnel scenes.   The log ride will have one theme a South East Oklahoma Swamp theme instead of the many themes it currently has as you travel the ride.   Looking forward to the completion of that come next season.   Six Flags and EPR is noticeably dumping alot of money into this park.   It is really shaping up to be a very nice park for visitors.   I get the vibe that Six Flags wants to make Frontier City their version of Knott's Berry Farm.  That will be huge for Oklahoma City if they can make a Frontier City a park people want to visit in the future.   
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on February 02, 2021, 10:58:08 AM
Apparently land is being cleared around the go-karts/maintenance area where we've talked about something going for years. Kemotblue broke the story, of course  ;D

I think Lance on Screamscape could be right though unfortunately. It's probably a relocation of another ride from inside the chain. A real shame since it seemed like FC was being setup for somthing new and big.

I wonder if we'll get stuck with the crappy Harley Quinn from SFDK. Or maybe even worse, Green Lantern from SFMM?

I'd be ecstatic for even an old wild mouse...
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on March 07, 2021, 05:46:04 PM
Sounds like the clearing was for... a warehouse.

Richard Shilhanek posted an update from the OK coaster club event at the park this weekend. The highlights are: tumbleweed removed, Gunslinger will try to operate again, and the big news: RMC is making a SECOND train for Wildcat. Will be interesting to see if RMC gets more involved in the wildcat in the future...
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on April 19, 2021, 10:19:43 AM
Apparently there's a rumor that Goliath from SFNE will be relocated to FC. This is the old giant inverted boomerang built by Vekoma that was originally at SFMM. The ride has always been a mechanical nightmare, and even though SF invested in new trains to make the ride more reliable and comfortable they apparently only made things worse on both accounts. The ride experience has been likened to surviving a car crash or a random mugging.

Visually the ride is very appealing, and if they could get better trains again it could be fun. I don't know if they can fix all of the maintenance issues though. I think Silverwood does a better job with their version, but who knows.

I'm not sure where they would put it, but they could rearrange parts of the park or expand into the parking lot.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: cowboy on April 19, 2021, 07:23:22 PM
What makes me nervous about that rumor is that Six Flags will still be the operator and more than likely will run it the same. It would be something big and visual stunning for Oklahoma but oh how I would love a RMC Raptor.

Jay
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on April 19, 2021, 10:56:45 PM
Just to clear that rumor Goliath is NOT coming to Frontier City.  Six Flags continues to surprise me on how much money they are spending in the park. Each week new surprises just continue to pop up.  Tremendous amount of money put into the infrastructure and appearance of the park.   I'm totally floored on how much Six Flags is investing into the park.  Quick Draw is actually a good dark shooting ride again, You can compete, Gunslinger is actually now more reliable then the coasters , Just about any flat ride is more reliabe then the coasters.  Some of the rides are getting new signage.  The talking Buffalo head at the front of the park was upgraded and repaired and says more to guests.  Stuff that hasn't worked in the park in years now suddenly works again and more fun theme elements around the park.  The new gun fight show  " The Lone Wonderer" is phenomal!  Everytime I watched the show the gun fighters get a standing ovation.  It has a great story line action packed and very interactive with the audience.  The best gun fighter stunt show I've seen at the park.  I hope the Golden Ticket people who nominate get down here and see the show.  It is award worthy I never seen a standing ovation for a themepark stunt show.   Hats off to Six Flags and the park managment and staff.  This Frontier City is nothing like it has been in the past 20 years.   It's the best I've seen it and can't believe it's Six Flags that managing the park.  I give it up to this new CEO he had a plan in place for his parks.  If you are paying attention to any coaster groups that follow any of the SIx Flag Parks these improvements are happening chain wide.     
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on April 20, 2021, 08:20:15 AM
Yeah, it didn't seem like a likely rumor, but it's easy to imagine the park eventually being stuck with some boomerang from somewhere. Honestly even that would still be one of the biggest and best coasters the state has ever seen.

Still really nice to hear about all the TLC. REALLY hope the next step can be something new and worthwhile.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Dewayne on April 20, 2021, 08:34:25 AM
Other rumors are:

Green Lantern from Six Flags Great Adventure may be coming. This will be a great choice, in my opinion. This will bring in record amounts of people to ride a coaster that is taller than some have ever ridden. Frontier City is the only amusement park in Oklahoma (besides the kiddie park) and alot of people can't afford to travel to another state for a bigger amusement/theme park.

Wildcat is getting a 2nd train soon and it will be an RMC train.

Finally, I have heard something from this year's preview day for the park, which happened on the Sunday before they opened this year. Someone said they were walking around the park with a group of people and a man that sounded like a tour guide (of sorts), talking about all the changes. They eventually got to the area where the go-karts used to be. He asked if Six Flags had any plans for the area. Besides the warehouse that was already mentioned, they are thinking about adding a wild mouse coaster to bring more people to this area of the park.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on April 20, 2021, 08:49:02 AM
Other rumors are:

Green Lantern from Six Flags Great Adventure may be coming. This will be a great choice, in my opinion. This will bring in record amounts of people to ride a coaster that is taller than some have ever ridden. Frontier City is the only amusement park in Oklahoma (besides the kiddie park) and alot of people can't afford to travel to another state to ride bigger rides.

Wildcat is getting a 2nd train soon and it will be an RMC train.

Finally, I have heard something from this year's preview day for the park, which happened on the Sunday before they opened this year. Someone said they were walking around the park with a group of people and a man that sounded like a tour guide (of sorts), talking about all the changes. They eventually got to the area where the go-karts used to be. He asked if Six Flags had any plans for the area. Besides the warehouse that was already mentioned, they are thinking about adding a wild mouse coaster to bring more people to this area of the park.

Absolutely no way they move Green Lantern. Not sure where that rumor comes from. They'll put floorless trains on it and remarket it as a new coaster at SFGAdv at some point I'm sure.

The 2nd train news for Wildcat is true and has been confirmed by multiple sources.

Who knows about that wild mouse rumor, it sounds like something a loud mouthed enthusiast would say vs an actual park official. Enthusiasts have been speculating and even hoping for a relocated wild mouse or boomerang for decades now. Anything to give us some kind of new coaster, lol. Our expectations for FC aren't high at all unlike most park fan groups.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: sdcfan88 on April 20, 2021, 05:28:18 PM
I had always thought when CC closed and the rides began to get dismantled FC would get one of the small steel coasters whether it was Jackrabbit or Thunderbolt. Still surprised they didn't. They would have made a lot of sense given the size of the park.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on April 20, 2021, 08:01:48 PM
Some notes...
1. I’ve ridden Goliath at SFNE and no it’s not a horrible ride
2. Silverwood has figured out how to run their GIB just fine
3. Why would they put floorless trains on Green Lantern when they have Bizzarro at SFGAdv
4. Don’t underestimate Six Flags
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on April 23, 2021, 08:36:05 PM
following PTC on social media Frontier City's new Train for Wildcat arrived this week. Tomorrow I will post photos of the second train for Wildcat when I visit the park.  Sadly no RMC train it was ploy to throw off enthuiests that were at the preview event.  i figured it out by watching the latest posts from PTC facebook page.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on April 26, 2021, 03:59:58 PM
Aw, that's lame. I wasn't super excited about RMC trains in general, but I thought it could be a sign of things to come.

And just to start another rumor, SFDK is officially dropping the Harley Quinn Crazy Coaster. Popular assumption is that it will be scrapped, but I could see them sending it back to Skyline to be retooled somehow and recycling it. Skyline still advertises the model on their website, so unless they are abandoning the model, they should still be on the hook for providing SF with a useable ride. Since this was essentially the prototype, I could see them giving it an overhaul and a relocation as a "new" ride.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Swoosh on April 26, 2021, 10:10:36 PM
Aw, that's lame. I wasn't super excited about RMC trains in general, but I thought it could be a sign of things to come.

And just to start another rumor, SFDK is officially dropping the Harley Quinn Crazy Coaster. Popular assumption is that it will be scrapped, but I could see them sending it back to Skyline to be retooled somehow and recycling it. Skyline still advertises the model on their website, so unless they are abandoning the model, they should still be on the hook for providing SF with a useable ride. Since this was essentially the prototype, I could see them giving it an overhaul and a relocation as a "new" ride.

I wouldn’t wish it on anyone
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: chittlins on May 11, 2021, 07:55:22 AM
After hours in the park and getting in.

https://www.tiktok.com/foryou?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=6959558456034528518#/@baileybreedlove970/video/6959558456034528518

Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on May 11, 2021, 08:30:11 AM
That incident is ridiculous. She was trying to leave, and that "officer" had no right to demand her ID. She wasn't even an actual police officer apparently, so I'm not sure how she can legally wear that uniform or make these demands.

The shorts aren't too bad, and it is wild that they would even care about this considering they have a freaking WATER PARK on the property where people run around in swim suits!

Just a dumb, dumb, dumb situation. I feel less inclined to visit FC than I already did after seeing this.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on May 12, 2021, 12:23:50 AM
There is more then one side to the story. This started when the womans child was skating in the park using her Heelies. A Security officer asked the child to stop and the mother became defensive because security didn't address her about her child. She gave the security officer attitude for not addressing the issue with her. SOme how the security guard took attention to her shorts being to short. She walked away telling security she doesn't do well talking with the police. The security guard asked that she buy more covering shorts per the parks dress code. The parks only dress code no offensive prints or visible offensive tattoos.   She decided to leave the park and wanted to get a refund.  I saw on Tik Tok her shorts if she bent over it would reveal just about her whole butt.  I've seen some pretty offensive things at the park so why the officer stressing a dress code.  I don't know a park security manager  You can hear in the video the park security manager tellling her "this is not about your shorts".  The incident continued to esculate you can see in the video a park manager talking to her. The officer is a actual officer with the County Sheriffs department. The park has 3 county sheriff officers at the park. Two walking the park one of them is a K-9 officer drug sniffing dog  The other one is stationed at the front gate.  There is a outside security company as well as the parks own security team. Who does the entry screenings and walk the park.  The outside secuirty company have been stationed this season at the popular ride queue lines.  (That includes All the Coasters, Log Ride, Gunslinger/Renegade Rapids and Brain Drain).  The officer in the video is one of the county Sheriff officers. They are actually off duty and sub contracted by the park on the weekends that is why they are in a grey polo shirt.  The police car at the front of the park has Oklahoma County Sheriff. So the OKC PD is not associated with this incident.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: Kemotblue on April 16, 2023, 08:02:23 AM
As my post from 2 years ago Frontier City and Six Flags is still going gang buster improving the overall property. The past two years more immersion into the parks overall old western town theme. They been cleaning up the property improving rides as well as upgrades. The park is the cleanest and well kept as I have ever seen this park. Besides the coasters needing some cosmetic improvements. Which I’m sure on the list to be done in the near future. The last two seasons and this season the focus has been put on the flat ride attractions. This doesn’t The Dodgems and Brain Drain both were nicely rethemed, also Sidewinder received a very attractive new ride entry sign. The Mystery River log flume got a impressive re theme with a interactive elements in the  queue line and the tunnel sections have new scenes and in one of the scenes there is a hologram bird. The main restroom in Ft Frontier was gutted and remodeled looks very nice. More of the buildings have been rebuilt with new fresh facades. The money being spent into the park has been impressive. They also built two new large buildings one is a central warehouse the other building is a expanded maintenance both in the former go cart track area. They are doing work to the nightmare building so it looks like they are keeping the building. I did ask it’s going to continue as haunted houses during Fright Fest. The facade work being done was to address safety concerns to the queue area below. This has been the most work I’ve seen at this park they are doing this to set up for the future. With the addition of all the maintenance facility I have a feeling the park will see a new attraction next season.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: shavethewhales on April 16, 2023, 08:22:50 PM
Yup, I went out earlier this year to get my passes and the park does indeed look better than ever. Gunslinger was even open for a minute before closing down again as usual. Wildcat was riding better than ever, but I do miss the tree canopy that made it a legitimately neat ride.

I don't know how many years they can go on with random little improvements to rides that are so old and tired though. They need something new desperately. A used carnival ride would be nice at this point. Unfortunately, with the current CEO, it's unlikely much is coming. I really think the park was primed for something big before covid hit. 2021 was going to be our year.
Title: Re: Frontier City Developments
Post by: DeweyBald on April 24, 2023, 07:16:05 PM
I agree Shave.  They used to have some pretty good concerts there as well.  Can't find one scheduled for this year!